Seems to me that the people doing portscans are doing it for one of two reasons:
1. Testing the security of a system, possibly their own. No intent to do anything malicious or illegal. Why would this need to be stopped?
2. Trying to do something _else_ illegal.
Analogy: Make looking into car windows illegal. Now that it is illegal for the car theif to look in the window for anti-theft devices, you think he's going to stop stealing cars?
There was a valid reason for emphasizing "inner city"; to indicate that there is a good chance that these students have had little or no access to computers; much less high end computers that your "average American kid" will have had.
Just because its not 'politically correct' doesn't mean it can't be used properly and constructively.
Well of course OS/X is easier to install; all the hardware is [pretty much] the same. The x86 platform lets you choose from thousands of models and makes for every piece of hardware you need. Not only does this give you more choice for your hardware, it cheaper due to competition. A slightly harder, but still easy, installation is a good tradeoff for the choice and price.
so Kid 1981 has the know to tell you, off the top of his head, the how thick to make the structure of the airplane for X speed, altitude. . .
Kid 2001 has the know-how to figure it out.
Yeah, at 20 you can still call me a kid if you want, but here's my take:
Parents shouldn't _need_ to monitor everything their children do; they should know what they are doing. Maybe my parents got lucky and had three great kids. I think it was good parenting; the raised us so we knew what was expected and what was right and wrong. Then never had to tell us "don't look at porn" or "don't maliciously hack other people's computers", a sence of morality was instilled in us. And my parents knew we wouldn't do it.
The public schools and the government continues to tell parents that they don't have to properly raise their children; the schools will do it for them. And then in case they mess up, we'll just make sure they can't do anything bad. This results in adults who learned what not to do the same way our pets do.
Should a company's obligation to protect its competitive advantage come at the expense of the quality of their end product? I could argue both sides of the issue, as I'm sure you also could, but I have not come to a conclusion. Any thoughts?
the problem isn't that the buttons aren't labeled on the faceplate, its that the functions aren't explained in the manual. Manuals, in general, suck about as much as the software does. the manual says something like: "use the channel up, channel down, and mode buttons to set the time" This does no good. How am i supposed to know that you hold down the mode button for 3 seconds, and then use the channel buttons to set the hour, and then hit mode again, and use the channel buttons to set the minute?! I don't care how hard the program first appears, if the documentation is good, people will figure it out.
first off, ferraris, porches, and vettes are stunningly beautiful cars. this tzero looks like a plastic kid's toy. second, the tzero's cockpit looks like a go-cart. weigh it down with power-everything, a sound system, and leather bucket seats and see how well it does. third, tzero's.88g's really isn't all that impressive. the new vettes will beat it at half the price. and only 100 miles?
i'll be impressed when an electric car wins the 24 hours of daytona
last year, my college (good sized technical institute) firewalled napster, due to bandwidth restrictions. So some people set up an opennap server inside the network, only accessible to people inside the network. At any given time you'd get a good 200-300 people on it, all with a good sized library, and all connections were fast. It worked great. The only reason it still isn't running is that the college more than tripled its bandwidth and allowed access again. Personally, i wish it were still there.
I would love to see net evolve (de-evolve?) to a state at which it is not only not the next big thing, but largely ignored by the general public and the media. Maybe, just maybe, we'll see the primary focus return from money to content.
Business plan: Develop a protocol for real-time multi-way voice over the internet; computer to computer using a piece of hardware that combines the internet interface and this new service. Sell the hardware and bandwidth.
This would be a nice little service for all users of that company. Now if all of the telco's adopted a standard protocol and released the source, anyone could make the hardware/software, and viola!: the telephone as you know it is gone. So instead of telcos and ISPs, you have I/SDSPs (Internet/Streaming Data Service Providers). So your phone is now completely replaced by your computer. Sure, you could also sell a piece of hardware that does nothing but this telephone-type connection.
I know this is obvious and ideal, so when's it gonna happen?
Today's/. reply is brought to you by the letter Q and the number 7.
Maybe you're thinking of church instead of school?
School teaches you how to conform to society. Church teaches religion, which teaches you how to understand the world as it really is, and how to better it and yourself. I've learned much more about logic, reasoning, and observation in church than in school.
And no, slashdot karma does NOT transfer to heaven.
from the car-guy perspective (the automotive equivilent to the computer-geek)
This is horrible. From as early as I can remember I have wanted to be an automotive engineer. Recently I've been reconsidering, due to stuff like this. If your car is limited to a certain speed, then there must be a maximum speed, say 75mph. So companies can stop making the cars go any faster. And if you can't take those desolate back roads (limit:35) at 60, why make the suspension work well? What fun will the engineering be?
On another note, its going to make cars even less safe. No, I take that back, it will make drivers less safe. The more "safety features" they put into cars (i.e. airbags, ABS, traction control, power steering, GPS, auto-slowing when the person in front of you slows down, automatic transmissions, and dummy-everythings) the less the driver thinks he or she has to pay attention. And the less he or she does pay attention. As far as safety, I'll put my life in the hands of a guy in the '89 Dodge Colt 5-speed with power-nothing who has to drive the car himself without computers, and who realizes that he has to watch out for the moron in the SUV who thinks she can turn on a dime at 75 while she's talking on the cell phone.
(Any percieved stereotyping is purely coincidental. really.)
I am taking a class called Introduction to Intellectual Property. The course project is to come up with an invention, prepare a patent application, and (if we want to shell out the money) apply for the patent. It would seem that the most difficult and time consuming part is the prior art search. But I guess that the way the USPTO is now operating, it doesn't count as prior art unless someone has done it EXACTLY the way you want to do it. Exact dimensions, color, name. ..
So I'm pretty sure noone has my invention EXACTLY, so I won't bother with the prior art search.
Seriously, it makes it kind of hard on the teachers when they teach us about prior art requirements or about non-obviousness ***subliminal message: boycot Amazon.com*** and by the next class the USPTO has granted patents in obvious violation. So they have to try to explain why it got through. (or why the USPTO is on crack)
So in conclusion, I will patent the method for applying for patents that should be denied on the grounds of prior art and obviousness, but aren't. Amazon: expect to hear from my lawyers shortly.
Assumption: If Napster charges, that means they are guarenteeing a certain quality. (this is a basis for my arguments, i do not intend to argue this statement)
Napster really needs to do something about quality of the music. MP3 is bad to begin with. People who don't use DAC (or even better, EAC), encode at low bitrates, and don't ID3 tag files make it worse. Napster will need to do something to guarantee a minimum quality. My suggestion is that they go hide under a rock and never be heard from again. No, seriously, they should store a large portion of more popular songs on their servers. These songs should each have a full ID3 tag, including lineage in the notes (i.e. CD>WAV via EAC>MP3 via MKWact)*. Each song on the server should be accompanied by an.md5, which would be downloaded with the song so the song could be checked after download. Less popular songs could have only the.md5 for the 'offical Napster seed' on the server. Each client could then tag the songs it has as matching the official seed or not. Then users could have the choice of searching only the official seeds.
* to learn about EAC (Exact Audio Copy) and MKWact (MKW Audio Compression Tool) see www.etree.org
shorten: because friends don't let friends use mp3
This is not fair the illegal actions of a few are hurting the masses. Or even if the illegal actions of the masses are hurting the just few. They should try to enforce the laws, not raise taxes to fix the effects of broken laws.
I'm nervously awaiting the day they start taxing bandwidth to cover piracy, you know its coming.
ooh! small shiny object! you can examine it, take it apart, find out how it works, and use what you learned for bigger and better things.
hmmm. hdcp and tv. you can look at what they tell you to look at; just don't think about it, learn about it, or, heaven forbid, find out how it works. what fun is that?
"forget about your silly whim, it doesn't fit the plan"
...you could make a binder clip that ran linux, and people would go ga-ga over it.
Unfortunately, the auto industry (my obsession of choice, right before computers)(the auto's not the industry) seems to be swinging more towards gimmicks and gadgets than to fun, powerful, and beautiful cars.
cars - the most high-tech thing that most people would rather have on old one of
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Seems to me that the people doing portscans are doing it for one of two reasons:
1. Testing the security of a system, possibly their own. No intent to do anything malicious or illegal. Why would this need to be stopped?
2. Trying to do something _else_ illegal.
Analogy: Make looking into car windows illegal. Now that it is illegal for the car theif to look in the window for anti-theft devices, you think he's going to stop stealing cars?
There was a valid reason for emphasizing "inner city"; to indicate that there is a good chance that these students have had little or no access to computers; much less high end computers that your "average American kid" will have had.
Just because its not 'politically correct' doesn't mean it can't be used properly and constructively.
Well of course OS/X is easier to install; all the hardware is [pretty much] the same. The x86 platform lets you choose from thousands of models and makes for every piece of hardware you need. Not only does this give you more choice for your hardware, it cheaper due to competition. A slightly harder, but still easy, installation is a good tradeoff for the choice and price.
and next they can take a shot at TCP/IP
so Kid 1981 has the know to tell you, off the top of his head, the how thick to make the structure of the airplane for X speed, altitude. . .
Kid 2001 has the know-how to figure it out.
Thanks, I'll fly on Airline 2001.
He's not talking about copying the code, just reading it and learning from it.
Yeah, at 20 you can still call me a kid if you want, but here's my take:
Parents shouldn't _need_ to monitor everything their children do; they should know what they are doing. Maybe my parents got lucky and had three great kids. I think it was good parenting; the raised us so we knew what was expected and what was right and wrong. Then never had to tell us "don't look at porn" or "don't maliciously hack other people's computers", a sence of morality was instilled in us. And my parents knew we wouldn't do it.
The public schools and the government continues to tell parents that they don't have to properly raise their children; the schools will do it for them. And then in case they mess up, we'll just make sure they can't do anything bad. This results in adults who learned what not to do the same way our pets do.
This program is for idoits.
We'll test it on our employees.
(read: We think our employees are idiots.)
My grandparents stopped using Napster too. Then my brothers and I went over and installed Napigator, and they're right back at it.
no, but almost as ridiculous, they trademarked that use and presentation of the word 'smile'
-the nice thing about flipping burgers in high school - you have more pride than the middle aged guy managing the place.
Should a company's obligation to protect its competitive advantage come at the expense of the quality of their end product? I could argue both sides of the issue, as I'm sure you also could, but I have not come to a conclusion. Any thoughts?
i think the point is to publish the information, so a company cannot patent it, on account of prior art.
the problem isn't that the buttons aren't labeled on the faceplate, its that the functions aren't explained in the manual. Manuals, in general, suck about as much as the software does. the manual says something like: "use the channel up, channel down, and mode buttons to set the time" This does no good. How am i supposed to know that you hold down the mode button for 3 seconds, and then use the channel buttons to set the hour, and then hit mode again, and use the channel buttons to set the minute?! I don't care how hard the program first appears, if the documentation is good, people will figure it out.
first off, ferraris, porches, and vettes are stunningly beautiful cars. this tzero looks like a plastic kid's toy. second, the tzero's cockpit looks like a go-cart. weigh it down with power-everything, a sound system, and leather bucket seats and see how well it does. third, tzero's .88g's really isn't all that impressive. the new vettes will beat it at half the price. and only 100 miles?
i'll be impressed when an electric car wins the 24 hours of daytona
last year, my college (good sized technical institute) firewalled napster, due to bandwidth restrictions. So some people set up an opennap server inside the network, only accessible to people inside the network. At any given time you'd get a good 200-300 people on it, all with a good sized library, and all connections were fast. It worked great. The only reason it still isn't running is that the college more than tripled its bandwidth and allowed access again. Personally, i wish it were still there.
I would love to see net evolve (de-evolve?) to a state at which it is not only not the next big thing, but largely ignored by the general public and the media. Maybe, just maybe, we'll see the primary focus return from money to content.
...and would that be the group of lawyers who define intelecutal property soley for the purpose of suing over it?
Business plan: Develop a protocol for real-time multi-way voice over the internet; computer to computer using a piece of hardware that combines the internet interface and this new service. Sell the hardware and bandwidth.
/. reply is brought to you by the letter Q and the number 7.
This would be a nice little service for all users of that company. Now if all of the telco's adopted a standard protocol and released the source, anyone could make the hardware/software, and viola!: the telephone as you know it is gone. So instead of telcos and ISPs, you have I/SDSPs (Internet/Streaming Data Service Providers). So your phone is now completely replaced by your computer. Sure, you could also sell a piece of hardware that does nothing but this telephone-type connection.
I know this is obvious and ideal, so when's it gonna happen?
Today's
School teaches you how to conform to society. Church teaches religion, which teaches you how to understand the world as it really is, and how to better it and yourself. I've learned much more about logic, reasoning, and observation in church than in school.
And no, slashdot karma does NOT transfer to heaven.
from the car-guy perspective (the automotive equivilent to the computer-geek)
This is horrible. From as early as I can remember I have wanted to be an automotive engineer. Recently I've been reconsidering, due to stuff like this. If your car is limited to a certain speed, then there must be a maximum speed, say 75mph. So companies can stop making the cars go any faster. And if you can't take those desolate back roads (limit:35) at 60, why make the suspension work well? What fun will the engineering be?
On another note, its going to make cars even less safe. No, I take that back, it will make drivers less safe. The more "safety features" they put into cars (i.e. airbags, ABS, traction control, power steering, GPS, auto-slowing when the person in front of you slows down, automatic transmissions, and dummy-everythings) the less the driver thinks he or she has to pay attention. And the less he or she does pay attention. As far as safety, I'll put my life in the hands of a guy in the '89 Dodge Colt 5-speed with power-nothing who has to drive the car himself without computers, and who realizes that he has to watch out for the moron in the SUV who thinks she can turn on a dime at 75 while she's talking on the cell phone.
(Any percieved stereotyping is purely coincidental. really.)
I am taking a class called Introduction to Intellectual Property. The course project is to come up with an invention, prepare a patent application, and (if we want to shell out the money) apply for the patent. It would seem that the most difficult and time consuming part is the prior art search. But I guess that the way the USPTO is now operating, it doesn't count as prior art unless someone has done it EXACTLY the way you want to do it. Exact dimensions, color, name. . .
So I'm pretty sure noone has my invention EXACTLY, so I won't bother with the prior art search.
Seriously, it makes it kind of hard on the teachers when they teach us about prior art requirements or about non-obviousness ***subliminal message: boycot Amazon.com*** and by the next class the USPTO has granted patents in obvious violation. So they have to try to explain why it got through. (or why the USPTO is on crack)
So in conclusion, I will patent the method for applying for patents that should be denied on the grounds of prior art and obviousness, but aren't. Amazon: expect to hear from my lawyers shortly.
Assumption: If Napster charges, that means they are guarenteeing a certain quality. (this is a basis for my arguments, i do not intend to argue this statement)
.md5, which would be downloaded with the song so the song could be checked after download. Less popular songs could have only the .md5 for the 'offical Napster seed' on the server. Each client could then tag the songs it has as matching the official seed or not. Then users could have the choice of searching only the official seeds.
Napster really needs to do something about quality of the music. MP3 is bad to begin with. People who don't use DAC (or even better, EAC), encode at low bitrates, and don't ID3 tag files make it worse. Napster will need to do something to guarantee a minimum quality. My suggestion is that they go hide under a rock and never be heard from again. No, seriously, they should store a large portion of more popular songs on their servers. These songs should each have a full ID3 tag, including lineage in the notes (i.e. CD>WAV via EAC>MP3 via MKWact)*. Each song on the server should be accompanied by an
* to learn about EAC (Exact Audio Copy) and MKWact (MKW Audio Compression Tool) see www.etree.org
shorten: because friends don't let friends use mp3
This is not fair the illegal actions of a few are hurting the masses. Or even if the illegal actions of the masses are hurting the just few. They should try to enforce the laws, not raise taxes to fix the effects of broken laws.
I'm nervously awaiting the day they start taxing bandwidth to cover piracy, you know its coming.
ooh! small shiny object! you can examine it, take it apart, find out how it works, and use what you learned for bigger and better things.
hmmm. hdcp and tv. you can look at what they tell you to look at; just don't think about it, learn about it, or, heaven forbid, find out how it works. what fun is that?
"forget about your silly whim, it doesn't fit the plan"
...you could make a binder clip that ran linux, and people would go ga-ga over it.
Unfortunately, the auto industry (my obsession of choice, right before computers)(the auto's not the industry) seems to be swinging more towards gimmicks and gadgets than to fun, powerful, and beautiful cars.
cars - the most high-tech thing that most people would rather have on old one of