# NO VIRUSES Linux is not prone to viruses. Because of the data protection functionality in Linux, a virus can not overwrite system files or append itself to applications unless you are working as the "root" user (which you shouldn't do in the first place).
I'll bite. There are Linux viruses (etap and slapper spring to mind), and the author of that seems to be missing a fairly major point.
I can rebuild a Linux server in half an hour or so, if system files get corrupted. The difficulty is retrieving data that's been trashed.
For more about weenies who think Linux is virus free:
FYI: a lot of paperfocussed designers are already moved to PC's.
Mod parent down. What are you basing that on? I don't know a single one who would choose a PC given a choice - are you just hoping you can throw in lies to make yourself sound clever?!
To be honest, I agree. It's certainly a lot easier to get patches for most vulnerabilities in free software.
On the other hand, as well as running three varients of BSD, and (*shudder*) Debian, I also look after a number of Windows boxes, one of which belongs to my parents. And, despite being sent numerous virus samples to them, we've somehow managed to avoid any virus infection what-so-ever. Admittedly, I *work* in anti-virus, but the point is: your system's vulnerability to viruses and other exploits is due to you, not your operating system.
or any of the host of others (those are the most interesting in my eyes). But seriously, what is it with people saying that Linux is somehow invincible when it comes to viruses? An unpatched Windows box is no less secure that almost any unpatched BSD or Linux distro from six months ago (see: OpenSSH vulnerabilities).
There's a great article about weenies who seem to think that their click-and-drool Mandrake install is somehow impenetrable here:
There's a reason for this. And it's a legal minefield. Companies could sue NAI (McAfee) for detecting this software and removing it, and some AV company (I forget which, but probably H+BEDV) was sued recently by a German company that made porn dialers, because it was detecting them... Add in FBI-esque eBugs, and boy is it a spikey issue.
You can also photocopy a book. The point is, this puts barriers to stealing the content. Not insurpassable ones, but, for the average guy or gal, a pretty high one.
Not in the kernel, but... (and this was in Perl code, so, make your own inferences):
# SUB-PEN. # Of post-Soviet-Russian variety, with Chechens and a whole bunch of # paintable action figures so you can recreate your very own news # broadcast! Parents, dare you deny your children this fabulous # opportunity of becoming journalists? Too much caffine has been had.
There are programs like FreeCIV that use GTK. How long until I can natively compile FreeCIV, or some other arbitary *nix program on OS X, without needing an X server?
I dunno though. There's the old adage about Microsoft not caring if you steal copies of Office for home use, because they make the big bucks from business...
Why, what is fundamentally evil about censorship? Can you give one even vaguely logical reason, without diving into the myre of vacuous religious proofs?
No, I didn't think so. But thanks for trying to make stand.
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Yeah, and just imagine what would happen if a country decided that their entire philosophy revolved around what their own president thought, and they decided to fuck with the environment (can you spell Kyoto?), threaten nuclear war, and restrict research into medicinal technologies on 'religious' grounds (stem the research, you could say). Wouldn't that be terrible?
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More commentary including thoughts on some of the implications here:
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http://www.virusbtn.com/news/latest_news/gobbles.
# NO VIRUSES
l inux_malware.xml
Linux is not prone to viruses. Because of the data protection functionality in Linux, a virus can not overwrite system files or append itself to applications unless you are working as the "root" user (which you shouldn't do in the first place).
I'll bite. There are Linux viruses (etap and slapper spring to mind), and the author of that seems to be missing a fairly major point.
I can rebuild a Linux server in half an hour or so, if system files get corrupted. The difficulty is retrieving data that's been trashed.
For more about weenies who think Linux is virus free:
http://www.virusbtn.com/magazine/archives/200209/
FYI: a lot of paperfocussed designers are already moved to PC's.
Mod parent down. What are you basing that on? I don't know a single one who would choose a PC given a choice - are you just hoping you can throw in lies to make yourself sound clever?!
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To be honest, I agree. It's certainly a lot easier to get patches for most vulnerabilities in free software.
On the other hand, as well as running three varients of BSD, and (*shudder*) Debian, I also look after a number of Windows boxes, one of which belongs to my parents. And, despite being sent numerous virus samples to them, we've somehow managed to avoid any virus infection what-so-ever. Admittedly, I *work* in anti-virus, but the point is: your system's vulnerability to viruses and other exploits is due to you, not your operating system.
Despite killing any credibility you had by using the word 'virii', you might be interested in:
l inux_malware.xml
Linux/Slapper
Linux/Etap
or any of the host of others (those are the most interesting in my eyes). But seriously, what is it with people saying that Linux is somehow invincible when it comes to viruses? An unpatched Windows box is no less secure that almost any unpatched BSD or Linux distro from six months ago (see: OpenSSH vulnerabilities).
There's a great article about weenies who seem to think that their click-and-drool Mandrake install is somehow impenetrable here:
http://www.virusbtn.com/magazine/archives/200209/
Except the person that came up with the name is now employed by DeerSoft, and they have the right to it.
This article on VB looks at the history of SpamAssassin and SpamAssassin pro, and conflicts of interest this might create; a neat summary:
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http://www.virusbtn.com/news/latest_news/spamassa
There's a reason for this. And it's a legal minefield. Companies could sue NAI (McAfee) for detecting this software and removing it, and some AV company (I forget which, but probably H+BEDV) was sued recently by a German company that made porn dialers, because it was detecting them... Add in FBI-esque eBugs, and boy is it a spikey issue.
You can also photocopy a book. The point is, this puts barriers to stealing the content. Not insurpassable ones, but, for the average guy or gal, a pretty high one.
I thought we'd already had the story about funny comments in code? I remember reading: // +5 Wand of obfuscation! hee hee
in George W Bu... ooops, I've said too much
Not in the kernel, but ... (and this was in Perl code, so, make your own inferences):
# SUB-PEN.
# Of post-Soviet-Russian variety, with Chechens and a whole bunch of
# paintable action figures so you can recreate your very own news
# broadcast! Parents, dare you deny your children this fabulous
# opportunity of becoming journalists? Too much caffine has been had.
Wired? Get Slashdotted? Mod parent down: karma whore.
This is probably a stupid question, but:
There are programs like FreeCIV that use GTK. How long until I can natively compile FreeCIV, or some other arbitary *nix program on OS X, without needing an X server?
Before anyone mods up a stupid comment - would you be up-in-arms is Microsoft's next server platform was called Minux? Thanks. Next.
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I dunno though. There's the old adage about Microsoft not caring if you steal copies of Office for home use, because they make the big bucks from business...
No no, it's:
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make world + linux kernel == gentooO!
Pfffft, get yourself an acoustic coupler! Then you can be all 0Ldsk00l ;-)
Why, what is fundamentally evil about censorship? Can you give one even vaguely logical reason, without diving into the myre of vacuous religious proofs?
No, I didn't think so. But thanks for trying to make stand.
Yeah, and just imagine what would happen if a country decided that their entire philosophy revolved around what their own president thought, and they decided to fuck with the environment (can you spell Kyoto?), threaten nuclear war, and restrict research into medicinal technologies on 'religious' grounds (stem the research, you could say). Wouldn't that be terrible?
Fly my prettys, fly!
Bill Gates suggested this in his book, "The Road Ahead"... Microsoft? Innovating? Why yes...
In the UK, Sky ( a major cable provider ) actually sells this as a service...
.school isn't that unusual ... there's .sch in the UK, and others too I'm sure
Someone modded this insightful? http://www.wordsmith.org. You'll note the use of capitalization to denote a phrase, or, maybe you won't.