I understand what you're saying about art and such, and I should let you know I'm a huge Kubrisk fan...
But dude. It's a movie. We'll see if Stevie bastardizes it, but perhaps you should give it a chance before shooting it down. If anything, I think Spielberg is doing honor to Kubrick by at least making an attempt. If it's going to be good or not is unknown, but let's not go so far as to call Spielberg a "second rate charltan." ET. Close Encounters. Saving Private Ryan. Sure, some of his others sucked, but if you look at his history you'll see that action movies aren't his strongpoint... but he's damn good with drama (these are all MY opinions, mind you).
Give the man a chance, if we go to see a movie that Kubrick had a part in then we're doing him honor by wanting to see it. I also would like to ask you where EXACTLY did you get the information that Kubrick specifically didn't want any of his movies finished? Or are you merely assuming all of this? A visionary like Kubrick WOULD want to finish his own work, but I think more importantly after his death he would want his work to be seen instead of sealed away into obscurity.
It doesn't really say ANYTHING about PS3, except that a PS3 is planned, is hopefully 1000 times as powerful as it's predecessor, and is going to expand on digital entertainment (movies, music, the internet, Tivo, etc.)
This is probably something Gamespot threw together to try to attract some hits on a big topic,it wasn't an official announcement or anything.
If Microsoft makes a great console then awesome, but I don't think they're going to eliminate Nintendo or Sony out of the market. And dammit, give MS a chance in the console market, I don't think they've really done anything "bad" since talk about the XBox began, if they have, then someone fill me in. I have high hopes for XBox because at least this version seems focused on Games. Hell, there isn't even DVD movie support right out of the box and MS has come out and said that that is NOT the main focus of the XBox. So if they do this right perhaps they'll set the example. I, for one, don't care who it comes from as long as whoever it is sets a good example.
I'd be skeptical, but Fincher is a DAMN good director, one of my favorites. Anyone who's seen Fight Club or Seven can agree... (Alien3 is debatable).
I hope he does a good job with it.
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Oh you're right. If's much more likely that we're going to get bombed now then when we KNEW we had missles being pointed right at us 90 miles off the coast and some Reds were very pissed at us.
Uhm, since when do you not have to pay for cable, or satellite? I'm assuming you just use your antenna.
And if you are paying for TV on a monthly basis, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE PAYING FOR?
Why does noone EVER consider that if the guy who the joke is "on" were still alive, he'd get a laugh out of it as well? Jeez. It's not desecrating the man, it's lightening up an otherwise depressing or morbid post. Calm yourself.
Sorry, I didn't mean any offense. Just joking around, I have my own Dreamcast (and I love it for Sports games and the like) but I'd much rather play DC games on my PC.
I suppose you just interpreted that post as an attack on the DC when it was really just a lighthearted poke. Sorry for not being so clear.
I can't wait to start kicking the asses of all the Dreamcasters when they attempt to beat me at Quake 3 (that's the one that's out for DC, right?) with their little gamepad toy. Mouse and keyboard all the way, baby!
I wonder how much money the casual DC player is going to spend just so they can play games via broadband, though? You can't really download anything on this right? And I don't THINK the DC has any sort of media player for downloading pr0n, which we ALL know is the main reason for broadband.
Right on, Pivo;)
Well the definition of a script kiddy is a person who doesn't even know what code means, they just do cut and paste jobs and stuff like that. So it works with any language. So how do you figure it's NOT related?
(That was for the guy you responded to, Pivo, not you)
Because the majority of people here find it interesting. That's the platform they code for. Besides, if this is just a "car ad," then/. would have to take down every other article about anything with Linux in it because it's just an "ad."
4. I understand what digital means, but having something be digital affords new benefits SUCH AS random access etc.
5. Good point, I stand corrected.
6. When I say "Average Joe Consumer," I'm talking about your AVERAGE consumer, and your AVERAGE consumer is NOT going to spend 2000 dollars so they can record off the HDTV that they most likely don't have anyhow.
1. No no no, two or three years ago when we were looking for alternatives to VHS. That gave us DVD. My point was that DVD is still pretty much on par (if not superior) to this new tape thing which is just being announced NOW, when the home theatre maniac and a whole lot of average consumers have DVDs. There's no advantage, there isn't really a market except for the truly hardcore or those who absolutely need to record in high quality.
2. DVDs never cost 2000;) And even when they first came out, if you got a DVD, it would have many benefits over the medium at the tape, standard VHS. This new medium calls for 2000 dollar players that don't show any real benefit over the DVD format besides the recording ability. I'm sure you can come up with more, but any other benefits you can think of probably won't surpass the benefits that DVD had over VHS.
3. Yes, Disney puts those ads in that you can't skip over, but that's a nitpick detail. I'm talking about when YOU'RE ACTUALLY WATCHING THE MOVIE. If I have a DVD and I want to go to the middle, three clicks and I'm there instantly, or I'm pretty close to it (divided into chapters). With any form of tape I have to wait for the thing to wind, every once in a while hitting "play" to see if I'm close. While I'm doing this I'm wearing the tape down; it's physical media.
4. Like you said, DVD Market 2.0;). I may agree with the bookmarks thing, but if you're implying that you'd rather have absolutely no reference at all while FFing or REWing away, then by all means, get this thing.
5. DeCSS, Divx;). What else needs to be said? It's already been done.
6. DVD Market 2.0. Once again, DVD players were not 2 grand when they came back, and I don't think anyone is going to consider getting DVD burners until they're around 500 dollars.
Alright, but it STILL doesn't have random access. So it's back to fast forwarding and rewinding. None of the menus that DVD has, no alternate languages or extra hidden features (unless it has them at the end of the tape or something like that). So it may be "digital," but you don't really get any of the benefits of that besides the the image quality.
1.) Too many DVDs have been sold already, it's too late into the game for another high performance option.
2.) 2000 bucks for the thing? The mainstream market isn't going to pay for that.
3.) Just because the format is uncompressed doesn't mean it won't be used. All we have to do is come up with some compression scheme, think DIVX;). This does NOT pose a threat.
4.) It's tape, right? So it's not digital! No random access, none of those little extras that DVD has that are available right at your fingertips instantly.
5.) EVEN if this thing does by some miracle catch on, if it's analog, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out how to rig two of these suckers up together and just copy tape to tape. Kinda defeats the uncompression-is-protection thing.
6.) I can't see why the average Joe Consumer would be enamored enough to go back to tape with nice, shiny, digital, compact DVD already here and in full swing. What I can't see to an even higher degree is the average Joe Consumer spending 2 grand on it.
I think this is another DBA (Dead Before Arrival).
But I know a lot of you guys are, so why don't ya'all throw them some advice? Undernet's a cool place that we should support, I know I would if I had the expertise but some of you in here probably just absolutely blow me away. Let's see some insightul posts about how to remedy the problem instead of saying "Shit, that sucks."
Not to mention the fact that it drives the price of the damn thing up a good 60-100 bucks.
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Social evolution.
One could argue that instead of sitting here and posting on Slashdot, you should be spending time with your family, yes?
Anyhow, I don't think that just because a console is new or next-gen or whatever means it's going to be more addictive. It takes time for the developers to be able to exploit all the strengths of a system, so basically the REALLY good, immersive games (Think Zelda64, think Final Fantasy 9) take at least a year after the initial release of a new system to come out. The only real reason to get a new console is the most obvious, the graphics. Chances are you probably don't have to worry about losing the kids to the TV based on flashy visuals (except maybe if it's p0rn).
At any rate, if the kiddies want to play video games, let 'em. If you want to be more family like, then hell, buy yourself a second controller and try playing a game or two. The key here is to be flexible, I almost lost a child to NHL 97 back on the SNES until I started doing shootouts with him;)
Well, being in the rather chilly environment of a total vacuum, he should at least be able to overclock the hell out of those processors and not worry too much about the heat build-up.
For some reason I can just envision a Bird of Prey equipped with a 8.6 Linux Kernel decloacking next to one of these things and making waste of it... "Space Garbage!"
Finger phone, eh?
According to the Babelfish translation, I can supposedly "enjoy the beautiful pictures..."
I imagine the porn industry's just salivating over this one;)
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But dude. It's a movie. We'll see if Stevie bastardizes it, but perhaps you should give it a chance before shooting it down. If anything, I think Spielberg is doing honor to Kubrick by at least making an attempt. If it's going to be good or not is unknown, but let's not go so far as to call Spielberg a "second rate charltan." ET. Close Encounters. Saving Private Ryan. Sure, some of his others sucked, but if you look at his history you'll see that action movies aren't his strongpoint... but he's damn good with drama (these are all MY opinions, mind you).
Give the man a chance, if we go to see a movie that Kubrick had a part in then we're doing him honor by wanting to see it. I also would like to ask you where EXACTLY did you get the information that Kubrick specifically didn't want any of his movies finished? Or are you merely assuming all of this? A visionary like Kubrick WOULD want to finish his own work, but I think more importantly after his death he would want his work to be seen instead of sealed away into obscurity.
This is probably something Gamespot threw together to try to attract some hits on a big topic,it wasn't an official announcement or anything.
If Microsoft makes a great console then awesome, but I don't think they're going to eliminate Nintendo or Sony out of the market. And dammit, give MS a chance in the console market, I don't think they've really done anything "bad" since talk about the XBox began, if they have, then someone fill me in. I have high hopes for XBox because at least this version seems focused on Games. Hell, there isn't even DVD movie support right out of the box and MS has come out and said that that is NOT the main focus of the XBox. So if they do this right perhaps they'll set the example. I, for one, don't care who it comes from as long as whoever it is sets a good example.
I hope he does a good job with it.
Come on.
Uhm, since when do you not have to pay for cable, or satellite? I'm assuming you just use your antenna. And if you are paying for TV on a monthly basis, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE PAYING FOR?
"This is damn good. But I wonder what a Beowulf Cluster of these baddies would be like..?"
Why does noone EVER consider that if the guy who the joke is "on" were still alive, he'd get a laugh out of it as well? Jeez. It's not desecrating the man, it's lightening up an otherwise depressing or morbid post. Calm yourself.
But, I've seen "Moonraker."
Oh, my mistake. I thought that both of the DC and PC versions were compatible. But there will be other games coming out, right? Right.
I suppose you just interpreted that post as an attack on the DC when it was really just a lighthearted poke. Sorry for not being so clear.
I wonder how much money the casual DC player is going to spend just so they can play games via broadband, though? You can't really download anything on this right? And I don't THINK the DC has any sort of media player for downloading pr0n, which we ALL know is the main reason for broadband.
Right on, Pivo ;)
Well the definition of a script kiddy is a person who doesn't even know what code means, they just do cut and paste jobs and stuff like that. So it works with any language. So how do you figure it's NOT related?
(That was for the guy you responded to, Pivo, not you)
Because the majority of people here find it interesting. That's the platform they code for. Besides, if this is just a "car ad," then /. would have to take down every other article about anything with Linux in it because it's just an "ad."
I can just see the script kiddies asking how to turn their new cars into KITT from Knight Rider... pray.
4. I understand what digital means, but having something be digital affords new benefits SUCH AS random access etc. 5. Good point, I stand corrected. 6. When I say "Average Joe Consumer," I'm talking about your AVERAGE consumer, and your AVERAGE consumer is NOT going to spend 2000 dollars so they can record off the HDTV that they most likely don't have anyhow.
2. DVDs never cost 2000 ;) And even when they first came out, if you got a DVD, it would have many benefits over the medium at the tape, standard VHS. This new medium calls for 2000 dollar players that don't show any real benefit over the DVD format besides the recording ability. I'm sure you can come up with more, but any other benefits you can think of probably won't surpass the benefits that DVD had over VHS.
3. Yes, Disney puts those ads in that you can't skip over, but that's a nitpick detail. I'm talking about when YOU'RE ACTUALLY WATCHING THE MOVIE. If I have a DVD and I want to go to the middle, three clicks and I'm there instantly, or I'm pretty close to it (divided into chapters). With any form of tape I have to wait for the thing to wind, every once in a while hitting "play" to see if I'm close. While I'm doing this I'm wearing the tape down; it's physical media.
4. Like you said, DVD Market 2.0 ;). I may agree with the bookmarks thing, but if you're implying that you'd rather have absolutely no reference at all while FFing or REWing away, then by all means, get this thing.
5. DeCSS, Divx;). What else needs to be said? It's already been done.
6. DVD Market 2.0. Once again, DVD players were not 2 grand when they came back, and I don't think anyone is going to consider getting DVD burners until they're around 500 dollars.
I rest.
Alright, but it STILL doesn't have random access. So it's back to fast forwarding and rewinding. None of the menus that DVD has, no alternate languages or extra hidden features (unless it has them at the end of the tape or something like that). So it may be "digital," but you don't really get any of the benefits of that besides the the image quality.
2.) 2000 bucks for the thing? The mainstream market isn't going to pay for that.
3.) Just because the format is uncompressed doesn't mean it won't be used. All we have to do is come up with some compression scheme, think DIVX;). This does NOT pose a threat.
4.) It's tape, right? So it's not digital! No random access, none of those little extras that DVD has that are available right at your fingertips instantly.
5.) EVEN if this thing does by some miracle catch on, if it's analog, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out how to rig two of these suckers up together and just copy tape to tape. Kinda defeats the uncompression-is-protection thing.
6.) I can't see why the average Joe Consumer would be enamored enough to go back to tape with nice, shiny, digital, compact DVD already here and in full swing. What I can't see to an even higher degree is the average Joe Consumer spending 2 grand on it.
I think this is another DBA (Dead Before Arrival).
Rally!
How is this going to catch on? Don't you need to have a whole new drive with a different laser in order to take advantage of the 3x density?
Not to mention the fact that it drives the price of the damn thing up a good 60-100 bucks.
One could argue that instead of sitting here and posting on Slashdot, you should be spending time with your family, yes?
Anyhow, I don't think that just because a console is new or next-gen or whatever means it's going to be more addictive. It takes time for the developers to be able to exploit all the strengths of a system, so basically the REALLY good, immersive games (Think Zelda64, think Final Fantasy 9) take at least a year after the initial release of a new system to come out. The only real reason to get a new console is the most obvious, the graphics. Chances are you probably don't have to worry about losing the kids to the TV based on flashy visuals (except maybe if it's p0rn).
At any rate, if the kiddies want to play video games, let 'em. If you want to be more family like, then hell, buy yourself a second controller and try playing a game or two. The key here is to be flexible, I almost lost a child to NHL 97 back on the SNES until I started doing shootouts with him ;)
For some reason I can just envision a Bird of Prey equipped with a 8.6 Linux Kernel decloacking next to one of these things and making waste of it... "Space Garbage!"
Finger phone, eh? According to the Babelfish translation, I can supposedly "enjoy the beautiful pictures..." I imagine the porn industry's just salivating over this one ;)