Not to mention that ajaxterm sort of makes you want to pull your nails out with pliers as an alternative. I've been running GateOne for quite a while now, and I'll be upgrading to this version this weekend.
Those are wise words, and your anecdote is quite surprising to me as most of the infirm I've been around (not as many, I'm sure) seemed quite miserable at the time. You would agree though that the fact that the majority of them desire to continue living doesn't mean we should necessarily deny the rest the means to stop?
That article presents valid observations of what the bill doesn't do, but dresses them up as elements forced upon the individual:
-First, this bill does not require that the mental state of the patient be assessed by a psychiatrist.
Immaterial, I say. The bill also stipulates that it is only an option for people with less than six months to live. Having been to psychiatrists for issues much more insignificant than "I will literally die before the next time I unpack the seasonal clothes I'm wearing today", I can say that I've either seen shitty psychiatrists, or issues can often take longer than six months to work through. Regardsless, you can't flip a switch and make someone better. In the meantime, you are motherfucking DYING (with all the perks that come with your particular disease).
-Secondly, the requirement that the patient has “six months to live” in order to request these lethal medications is generally understood by those within medicine to be an unreliable prediction.
This is perhaps the most valid point to be made in the entire article. I would expect this point to be passed on by a truely caring and sympathetic doctor. Perhaps the stretch of time needs to be better reevaluated into something taking the level of pain or discomfort the individual is seeing over whether or not they'll ever actually recover from it.
-Furthermore, although proponents claim the bill offers a compassionate option, it is actually constructed in such a way to make the act of suicide incredibly isolating. The bill does not require any family members or next of kin be notified of a patient’s decision to kill herself.
And it doesn't prevent them from notifying as many people as they want of their decision either. It enables the individual to make one of the last few decisions they possibly have avaialble to them themselves. That can't possibly be a bad thing. Forcing someone to have to talk about their suicide plan is as horrible and emotionally scarring (on all parts) as forcing someone to see their unborn baby prior to an abortion. It's sick.
-The real fallacy of this bill is that it presents suicide as simply one option among many as patients navigate through the choices surrounding a terminal diagnosis.
When all outcomes trend toward a predictable and forecasted death in the near future, what options do you have remaining? This section also talks about how allowing this type of suicide would violate the Hipocratic Oath, but I argue that enabling someone to continue spending the remainder of their life in pain and agony is tantamount to torture, and certainly causes more harm than a painless death.
The cynic in me notes that there's a stunning amount of money to be had in people dying, and notes that the people who are receiving that money are the ones campaigning against this.
For that matter, you can overdose on lead, but either are hardly dignified ways to die.
Also, I tend to pass out before dying of alcohol poisoning. That either means I'm a pussy for passing out too early, or too hard to die of alcohol poisoning. Either way, it doesn't seem possible for me.
Oh yeah, absolutely. The moment I start to go, I'm offing myself. I'll take oblivion over living in my own filth, forgetting who I am every day, and being too frail to actually interact with the world. I'll EASILY take the end over that.
I don't think that's how I'd interpret any of that. Consider this: You're 90-something, you shit yourself continually, you forget what you are doing periodically, and it's painful to continue to exist. That is, you are in constant pain. The 'solution' to this is that you keep munching down pain pills that slowly kill the rest of your organs, offering up delightful side-effects all the while.
I don't think that's a societal issue in the way you are thinking it is, unless your idea of a solution is to have "old people in pain" pride parades where you spread awareness of their constant pain and agony, or something, because you think that will make it go away?
Hey, don't hate the messenger. I'm just reporting it like I see it. I never said Google, or Motorola, or Samsung, or $VENDOR was saintly. They're all corporations, and as such are not capable of being saintly. You may be assuming an 'us' or 'them' mentality. I am not "us" or "them". I want to see them all burn, at least with respect to this patent nonsense.
Further, Apple has been big (probably the biggest) in the news most recently on the serving end of patents (something I and others consider the vast majority of which to be bullshit) and it makes me smile to see them hoisted by their own petard (while still considering the vast majority of patents to be bullshit). It's not rational, probably, but we're talking about emotional responses from human beings. They're seldom rational.
I'm feeding the troll here, sure, but the usual stand is acknowledgement that patents can have a purpose, but that patents on software and design are usually bullshit. There is occasionally grumbling at this point that patents in general get handed out way to easily, ignore prior art, and are generally misused.
I believe in this case, most of the rooting for Google/Motorola seems to be around the other classic slashdot principle: Maligned sense of unequivical justice. In this case, it's hard not to smile when you hear that the bully got their comeuppance.
Or do fanbois think that 'rounded corners' drawn by one of their case designers a few years back represents a more important piece of IP than the detailed algorithms controlling signalling in a congested radio band that took real scientists and engineers years of research and skill to develop?
First poster never mentioned Romney. You did. You're assuming a dichotomy where there need be done. Multiply that across 95% of voters, and it's unsurprisng nothing ever improves.
We the people deserve every last thing we get.
Number of times I've copypasted this here today and it still be on topic: 1
First poster never mentioned Romney. You did. You're assuming a dichotomy where there need be done. Multiply that across 95% of voters, and it's unsurprisng nothing ever improves.
It's a good thing that they demand this of Microsoft. I mean, without setting this precedent, how else could we be offered the chance to freely and without jumping over hurdles obtain Firefox (or Chrome, for that matter) on our iPhones?
Oh wait, that kills their ad revenue moreso, doesn't it? What they really want is that they want to have their cake AND eat it too? No... that didn't work for the last Frenchy who insisted upon it. I doubt it will work here either.
Be sarcastic better. You post reminded me of the "Get a brain! morans" guy. I stopped being so optimistic about people like that only being sarcastic a long time ago.
I didn't say water, purified with bleach. I said bleach.
That's fine, if you want to sidestep the analogy with pedanticism, substitute bleach with potassium cyanide, or lye, or motor oil. Hell, substitute it with ionizing radia... oh, wait.:(
So suppose you ingest a small amount of bleach inadvertantly in the course of a task you must do. That's bad for you.
Now, you have two options. Which one is healthier for you?
A) Taking more bleach, in an even smaller quantity.
B} _NOT_ taking more bleach.
No, this will be great. If we could just prevent the next generation from ever manifesting that first, flickering moment of self-actualization, perhaps we can get them to be so utterly unaware of their own ability to experience and change the world around them that we can literally leave them reduced to being little more than literal cattle, grazing from whatever they get fed.
Well, I mean, the alternative is that you insist that it IS an e-peen contest. If that's what you're going for, then by all means, build an API, license it out, but most importantly, PATENT THE MECHANISM YOU HAVE FOR COLLECTING DATA. Seriously. The more extraneous words you can add in, the better. If you need help on that, just let me know. I have a friend; this guy is amazing. He has this thing called a thesaurus. Neither me nor my MBA friends are entirely sure what exactly it is or does, but we know that when he uses it, it makes RoI improve 23% and IPOs, on average (cause we're professionals) improve by 62%, on average, by volume.
Seriously though, to anyone reading this, I'm trashed, full of shit, banned from posting on the forums I normally frequent, and too uncoordinated to start an emulator. Do not mod this up. Do not encourage the OP.
This is what I was thinking. It's not an ownership e-peen contest. It's letting people have their one-way streets, realizing it's not the end of the world. Creative Commons Share-Alike it if you will, but I'm not sure there's a better way to do it.
Don't run the edge of envelopes against your eyeballs either
Well, I just winced. Thanks for that.
Director lady, is that you?!
Not to mention that ajaxterm sort of makes you want to pull your nails out with pliers as an alternative. I've been running GateOne for quite a while now, and I'll be upgrading to this version this weekend.
Those are wise words, and your anecdote is quite surprising to me as most of the infirm I've been around (not as many, I'm sure) seemed quite miserable at the time. You would agree though that the fact that the majority of them desire to continue living doesn't mean we should necessarily deny the rest the means to stop?
That article presents valid observations of what the bill doesn't do, but dresses them up as elements forced upon the individual:
-First, this bill does not require that the mental state of the patient be assessed by a psychiatrist.
Immaterial, I say. The bill also stipulates that it is only an option for people with less than six months to live. Having been to psychiatrists for issues much more insignificant than "I will literally die before the next time I unpack the seasonal clothes I'm wearing today", I can say that I've either seen shitty psychiatrists, or issues can often take longer than six months to work through. Regardsless, you can't flip a switch and make someone better. In the meantime, you are motherfucking DYING (with all the perks that come with your particular disease).
-Secondly, the requirement that the patient has “six months to live” in order to request these lethal medications is generally understood by those within medicine to be an unreliable prediction.
This is perhaps the most valid point to be made in the entire article. I would expect this point to be passed on by a truely caring and sympathetic doctor. Perhaps the stretch of time needs to be better reevaluated into something taking the level of pain or discomfort the individual is seeing over whether or not they'll ever actually recover from it.
-Furthermore, although proponents claim the bill offers a compassionate option, it is actually constructed in such a way to make the act of suicide incredibly isolating. The bill does not require any family members or next of kin be notified of a patient’s decision to kill herself.
And it doesn't prevent them from notifying as many people as they want of their decision either. It enables the individual to make one of the last few decisions they possibly have avaialble to them themselves. That can't possibly be a bad thing. Forcing someone to have to talk about their suicide plan is as horrible and emotionally scarring (on all parts) as forcing someone to see their unborn baby prior to an abortion. It's sick.
-The real fallacy of this bill is that it presents suicide as simply one option among many as patients navigate through the choices surrounding a terminal diagnosis.
When all outcomes trend toward a predictable and forecasted death in the near future, what options do you have remaining? This section also talks about how allowing this type of suicide would violate the Hipocratic Oath, but I argue that enabling someone to continue spending the remainder of their life in pain and agony is tantamount to torture, and certainly causes more harm than a painless death.
The cynic in me notes that there's a stunning amount of money to be had in people dying, and notes that the people who are receiving that money are the ones campaigning against this.
Fantastic. Good for her.
Now don't force everyone else who might not be so talented or gifted to live such a constant and eternal nightmare.
For that matter, you can overdose on lead, but either are hardly dignified ways to die.
Also, I tend to pass out before dying of alcohol poisoning. That either means I'm a pussy for passing out too early, or too hard to die of alcohol poisoning. Either way, it doesn't seem possible for me.
Oh yeah, absolutely. The moment I start to go, I'm offing myself. I'll take oblivion over living in my own filth, forgetting who I am every day, and being too frail to actually interact with the world. I'll EASILY take the end over that.
I don't think that's how I'd interpret any of that. Consider this: You're 90-something, you shit yourself continually, you forget what you are doing periodically, and it's painful to continue to exist. That is, you are in constant pain. The 'solution' to this is that you keep munching down pain pills that slowly kill the rest of your organs, offering up delightful side-effects all the while.
I don't think that's a societal issue in the way you are thinking it is, unless your idea of a solution is to have "old people in pain" pride parades where you spread awareness of their constant pain and agony, or something, because you think that will make it go away?
Hey, don't hate the messenger. I'm just reporting it like I see it. I never said Google, or Motorola, or Samsung, or $VENDOR was saintly. They're all corporations, and as such are not capable of being saintly. You may be assuming an 'us' or 'them' mentality. I am not "us" or "them". I want to see them all burn, at least with respect to this patent nonsense.
Further, Apple has been big (probably the biggest) in the news most recently on the serving end of patents (something I and others consider the vast majority of which to be bullshit) and it makes me smile to see them hoisted by their own petard (while still considering the vast majority of patents to be bullshit). It's not rational, probably, but we're talking about emotional responses from human beings. They're seldom rational.
I'm feeding the troll here, sure, but the usual stand is acknowledgement that patents can have a purpose, but that patents on software and design are usually bullshit. There is occasionally grumbling at this point that patents in general get handed out way to easily, ignore prior art, and are generally misused.
I believe in this case, most of the rooting for Google/Motorola seems to be around the other classic slashdot principle: Maligned sense of unequivical justice. In this case, it's hard not to smile when you hear that the bully got their comeuppance.
Or do fanbois think that 'rounded corners' drawn by one of their case designers a few years back represents a more important piece of IP than the detailed algorithms controlling signalling in a congested radio band that took real scientists and engineers years of research and skill to develop?
Quite likely.
He very clearly wants to purchase DRM from the Apple store with no monetary cost. How it boosts sales is anyone's guess.
First poster never mentioned Romney. You did. You're assuming a dichotomy where there need be done. Multiply that across 95% of voters, and it's unsurprisng nothing ever improves.
We the people deserve every last thing we get.
Number of times I've copypasted this here today and it still be on topic: 1
First poster never mentioned Romney. You did. You're assuming a dichotomy where there need be done. Multiply that across 95% of voters, and it's unsurprisng nothing ever improves.
We the people deserve every last thing we get.
It's a good thing that they demand this of Microsoft. I mean, without setting this precedent, how else could we be offered the chance to freely and without jumping over hurdles obtain Firefox (or Chrome, for that matter) on our iPhones?
Fine, keep Google out: robots.txt
Oh wait, that kills their ad revenue moreso, doesn't it? What they really want is that they want to have their cake AND eat it too? No... that didn't work for the last Frenchy who insisted upon it. I doubt it will work here either.
Be sarcastic better. You post reminded me of the "Get a brain! morans" guy. I stopped being so optimistic about people like that only being sarcastic a long time ago.
Nothing is more petulant and frivilous than when your writing includes filler words indicating periods of time where faux-thought is occurring.
You are the reason why we, the human race, can't have nice things.
I didn't say water, purified with bleach. I said bleach.
:(
That's fine, if you want to sidestep the analogy with pedanticism, substitute bleach with potassium cyanide, or lye, or motor oil. Hell, substitute it with ionizing radia... oh, wait.
So suppose you ingest a small amount of bleach inadvertantly in the course of a task you must do. That's bad for you.
Now, you have two options. Which one is healthier for you?
A) Taking more bleach, in an even smaller quantity.
B} _NOT_ taking more bleach.
Who modded this down? Seriously, I'm taking notes.
No, this will be great. If we could just prevent the next generation from ever manifesting that first, flickering moment of self-actualization, perhaps we can get them to be so utterly unaware of their own ability to experience and change the world around them that we can literally leave them reduced to being little more than literal cattle, grazing from whatever they get fed.
Well, I mean, the alternative is that you insist that it IS an e-peen contest. If that's what you're going for, then by all means, build an API, license it out, but most importantly, PATENT THE MECHANISM YOU HAVE FOR COLLECTING DATA. Seriously. The more extraneous words you can add in, the better. If you need help on that, just let me know. I have a friend; this guy is amazing. He has this thing called a thesaurus. Neither me nor my MBA friends are entirely sure what exactly it is or does, but we know that when he uses it, it makes RoI improve 23% and IPOs, on average (cause we're professionals) improve by 62%, on average, by volume.
Seriously though, to anyone reading this, I'm trashed, full of shit, banned from posting on the forums I normally frequent, and too uncoordinated to start an emulator. Do not mod this up. Do not encourage the OP.
This is what I was thinking. It's not an ownership e-peen contest. It's letting people have their one-way streets, realizing it's not the end of the world. Creative Commons Share-Alike it if you will, but I'm not sure there's a better way to do it.