That's not what = means. = is ASSIGNMENT. They're looking for ==.
Also, on a serious note, from what I recall of the US school system, frankly, the most surprising thing about this is that the problem isn't worse than reported.
Because sometimes it's not that easy. I'm paranoid about what I've installed on mine, but say I make a GPS app that will show WIFI hotspot overlays on maps (cause I always wanted something like that). I now have an app that when downloaded, shows up as needing:
* GPS Location (fine)
* Network access
I also want to make it switch off during phone calls, and maybe keep the phone from sleeping:
* System tools
* Phone state and identity
Finally, wouldn't it be neato if it could save the overlays to the filesystem?
* SD card access
You might say, "Hey, I'd expect that app to want all that, and it's cool, so I'll take my chances." Great, I might too, and it would probably be legit. However, say I realize this line of thinking, and I catch asshat-itis. I now build a trojan in it that scrapes whatever it can off your filesystem and can tell me who you're calling and when, and where you are when you do it. I'm sure I could find SOMETHING to do with that data. Honestly, I think that if they got more specific about how the apps were accessing each of those categories, I'd feel better about it, but it's not always so clear cut. Admittedly, I've never seen a texting one, but if it's anything like the others, "Text messages" could just be a read type thing, or it could be read/write/whatever.
Indeed. People trend toward this behaviour of, when faced with the opportunity of learning some new skill or achieving some higher understanding of things around them they use everyday, they simply just toss money at it to make the opportunity go away. Something breaks, and the thought doesn't even appear in the mind that you can take it apart to understand/fix it yourself. It's just "out with the old, in with the new".
I just replaced my garbage disposal yesterday. First time I've ever done anything plumbing related.
Gee, no shit? It's almost as if I already said that:
Before you become a prick about it, did you say that, really? The most you said was that Google made it "easy" for you to access the data. That's as much the same as if you would have said "Math is hard" and then I came along and elaborated on which ways you might have found math to be difficult. Easy to me means "without difficulty". It says nothing about precision or detail. I actually had planned a whole rant about Terraserver in the interest of contributing something meaningful beyond this point, but I decided that it wasn't worth the effort.
Yeah, but the difference is that type of aerial photography is mostly coincidence (unless of course, you're the subject of discussion). It wasn't catalogued and archived in such a way that provides immediate and _selective_ retrival. With regards to aerial imagery pre-google, I'm aware it's been around for a long time as well, but it's not been as easily accessible, accurate, or detailed as it is now. I'm not just Google hating here.
You just hit it on the head. It's public information... now. The outrage is that just a couple years ago, there was the perception of what happened in your backyard being relatively private. Typically only your neighbors could really see what you were doing. If that was a problem, you could build a bigger fence. Maybe a PRIVACY fence, of all things. Google has changed all that, and they did so without asking you.
Yeah, I don't even see any ads on the BB page. I'm not sure how you can really claim it's a commercial entity. Looks to me like he did everything he should have.
So the answer is that the company that pompously touts it's user-friendly atmosphere and maintains its "Just Works" slogan can get away with releasing a product that you have to train yourself to use differently that what you're comfortable with?
Wait, I just got it: This is what they meant when they said "Think Different."
When I said "Doing it right", I meant that's the most effective way to suppress someone's speech who consistantly shows ideals in conflict with your own. I don't actually do it, nor do I support it, but it's not the first time it's been discussed here. It was meant to be satirical, pointing out that the "mindless morons" who he thought were suppressing speech were too big of morons at the same time to do it effectively.
Honestly, I wish to mod you nothing, simply because of the fact that I'd rather not you have the smug satisfaction of having your last sentence dignified in any sort of way. If anyone was doing it right, they'd just pull up your previous posting history and mod you back to the stone age anyway, but I suppose you won't see that because as you said, they're mindless morons. Not sure what you're all bitter about either though, your history shows you haven't really ever said anything the hive mind has found unfavorable.
Quite the contrary, I'm sure. We Americans (well, most of us) realize that our government has as much control over the world as we ourselves have over our government.
I observe that officially the official opinion on official officials unofficially offering observations oft results in their officious remains being officially reduced to offal in an operation often offensive to olfactory organs.
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I think that the () is supposed to be an unknown variable? 4+3+2=x+2; 4+3+2-2=x; 4+3=x; 7=x.
Unfortunately, I was joking about the first part of my statement. Middle grade levels are most certainly NOT learning programming (in the US anyway).
Also, apparently I struggle with understanding of the "First Post".
So... frosty piss and all that.
That's not what = means. = is ASSIGNMENT. They're looking for ==.
Also, on a serious note, from what I recall of the US school system, frankly, the most surprising thing about this is that the problem isn't worse than reported.
Because sometimes it's not that easy. I'm paranoid about what I've installed on mine, but say I make a GPS app that will show WIFI hotspot overlays on maps (cause I always wanted something like that). I now have an app that when downloaded, shows up as needing:
* GPS Location (fine)
* Network access
I also want to make it switch off during phone calls, and maybe keep the phone from sleeping:
* System tools
* Phone state and identity
Finally, wouldn't it be neato if it could save the overlays to the filesystem?
* SD card access
You might say, "Hey, I'd expect that app to want all that, and it's cool, so I'll take my chances." Great, I might too, and it would probably be legit. However, say I realize this line of thinking, and I catch asshat-itis. I now build a trojan in it that scrapes whatever it can off your filesystem and can tell me who you're calling and when, and where you are when you do it. I'm sure I could find SOMETHING to do with that data. Honestly, I think that if they got more specific about how the apps were accessing each of those categories, I'd feel better about it, but it's not always so clear cut. Admittedly, I've never seen a texting one, but if it's anything like the others, "Text messages" could just be a read type thing, or it could be read/write/whatever.
Maybe it hit so hard it bounced?
Indeed. People trend toward this behaviour of, when faced with the opportunity of learning some new skill or achieving some higher understanding of things around them they use everyday, they simply just toss money at it to make the opportunity go away. Something breaks, and the thought doesn't even appear in the mind that you can take it apart to understand/fix it yourself. It's just "out with the old, in with the new".
I just replaced my garbage disposal yesterday. First time I've ever done anything plumbing related.
And what most people do with computers is less like learning to drive, but instead learning how to work the dials to the radio.
Gee, no shit? It's almost as if I already said that:
Before you become a prick about it, did you say that, really? The most you said was that Google made it "easy" for you to access the data. That's as much the same as if you would have said "Math is hard" and then I came along and elaborated on which ways you might have found math to be difficult. Easy to me means "without difficulty". It says nothing about precision or detail. I actually had planned a whole rant about Terraserver in the interest of contributing something meaningful beyond this point, but I decided that it wasn't worth the effort.
Yeah, but the difference is that type of aerial photography is mostly coincidence (unless of course, you're the subject of discussion). It wasn't catalogued and archived in such a way that provides immediate and _selective_ retrival. With regards to aerial imagery pre-google, I'm aware it's been around for a long time as well, but it's not been as easily accessible, accurate, or detailed as it is now. I'm not just Google hating here.
You just hit it on the head. It's public information... now. The outrage is that just a couple years ago, there was the perception of what happened in your backyard being relatively private. Typically only your neighbors could really see what you were doing. If that was a problem, you could build a bigger fence. Maybe a PRIVACY fence, of all things. Google has changed all that, and they did so without asking you.
I think being unable to label or identify them is their eventual goal.
http://www.2010congressionalelection.com/
Wow, okay, I'm an idiot. Ever do that thing where you genuinely forget you're running adblock?
Yeah, I don't even see any ads on the BB page. I'm not sure how you can really claim it's a commercial entity. Looks to me like he did everything he should have.
Why are the copypasta trolls always so attracted to 2012/LHC stories?
So the answer is that the company that pompously touts it's user-friendly atmosphere and maintains its "Just Works" slogan can get away with releasing a product that you have to train yourself to use differently that what you're comfortable with?
Wait, I just got it: This is what they meant when they said "Think Different."
Better than cock saluting, flag waving nationalism.
+1 insightful, if I had points.
That's not all his mom will eat up.
To be fair, my first thought was: "Eew gross, Lisp." My second thought was, "Wait, you can even DO stuff like this in Lisp?"
When I said "Doing it right", I meant that's the most effective way to suppress someone's speech who consistantly shows ideals in conflict with your own. I don't actually do it, nor do I support it, but it's not the first time it's been discussed here. It was meant to be satirical, pointing out that the "mindless morons" who he thought were suppressing speech were too big of morons at the same time to do it effectively.
Honestly, I wish to mod you nothing, simply because of the fact that I'd rather not you have the smug satisfaction of having your last sentence dignified in any sort of way. If anyone was doing it right, they'd just pull up your previous posting history and mod you back to the stone age anyway, but I suppose you won't see that because as you said, they're mindless morons. Not sure what you're all bitter about either though, your history shows you haven't really ever said anything the hive mind has found unfavorable.
Quite the contrary, I'm sure. We Americans (well, most of us) realize that our government has as much control over the world as we ourselves have over our government.
I observe that officially the official opinion on official officials unofficially offering observations oft results in their officious remains being officially reduced to offal in an operation often offensive to olfactory organs.
Awful.