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Google's China Rival To Create Android-Like OS

Stoobalou writes "Google's biggest search rival in China — homegrown market leader Baidu, is to develop a Linux-based smartphone to rival the Californian search giant's Android-based devices."

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  1. Wait, this is coming from China right? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, what they're really saying is they'll be releasing an Android copy.

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    1. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In fact, they just plan on peeling off the sticker.

    2. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by butterflysrage · · Score: 3, Funny

      but is it censored? :)

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    3. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by ptx0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It won't be an android copy -- it will likely have different goals, different implementation, different backing.. This is what Google was trying to accomplish with the introduction of Android, a wider, more open phone market. More Linux-based phone systems equals more choice for the consumer, aka us!

    4. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by AltairDusk · · Score: 1

      Baidu OS! Now we know when you're being naughty and circumventing the Great Firewall!

    5. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      but is it censored? :)

      Yes. And I stole a leaked copy of their mascot...

    6. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, GoogleOS:BaiduOS=RedHat:CentOS?

    7. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


      Yes, and it will be called "Andloid"

    8. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by lorenlal · · Score: 1

      More like:
      GoogleOS:BaiduOS=Blackberry:Redberry.

      But Android is at least Open Source... So it won't be a complete reverse engineer job like the Redberry.

    9. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by ByOhTek · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      probably not even that much effort. They'll probably just stick their own sticker on top, not paying too much attention if the old is completely covered.

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    10. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      So, GoogleOS:BaiduOS=RedHat:CentOS?

      Less RedHat:CentOS, more RedHat:RedFlag.

      "GreenMetalMan. Better than Android. GreenDam already installed."

    11. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by interval1066 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      "...they just plan on peeling off the sticker."

      Give them some credit. First, they're gonna spend a few million on espionage, after they steal the code and a prototype, they'll trot out a completely re-designed package, Chinese internationalization; and eureka! The People's Phone.

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    12. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by w0mprat · · Score: 1

      Android is open source. Are they going to change a few headers and recompile?

      Green Dam kernel module?

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    13. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by sdguero · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Seriously.

      I actually work with Baidu to collect marketing metrics. Google, Yahoo, and Bing all have API access setup so clients can access reports anytime via a SOAP request. Baidu? You have to actually talk to a person in China on the phone and ask for a report which they then send you manually every day. God knows if the data is legit, and there is no availability on weekends or holidays (which it turns out, China has a LOT of).

      I don't really see how they are going to develop their own mobile OS unless its a direct copy of Android.

    14. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      but is it censored? :)

      I little less censored than an iphone I've guess

    15. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      Oh.. they are just trying to blend Android and iphone! Neat!

    16. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by Rainulf · · Score: 1

      Hey, atleast it's made in China

    17. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by UncleBex · · Score: 1

      Why assume that it is Android that they are copying? It could still end up being a really kicking clone of WinMo 6.5 (or at least as kicking as WinMo gets).

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    18. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Sure it will, because China is all about choice.
      It may be but odds are it will be a fork with a new name and some limitations added in.
      It will also probably not be seen in the west.

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    19. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by eugene2k · · Score: 1

      >You have to actually talk to a person in China on the phone and ask for a report which they then send you manually every day.
      You think their search engine works differently?

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    20. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by sdguero · · Score: 1

      I have no idea how their bots/algorythm work. I just know that Baidu data is always delivered manually and it shows up at varying times depending on when Chinese workers get around to it. The other engines are much more reliable since they are automated, with data normally becoming available shortly after midnight each day. Occasionally, we see problems from Yahoo in other countries (mostly South East Asia) but Baidu is less reliable.

    21. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by stephanruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is article is click-bait. Mainland China has already said over a year ago that they were forking version 1.6 of Android (and more recently a second fork from version 2.x) and re-branding it completely (stripping out google maps, google search, etc). This is a fact that Google was quite happy with at the time. Even if it's not technically called Android, or technically figuring within their official figures for Android adoption. It was something that they bragged about. Google was delighted to hear that 1.8+ billion people were going to standardize on something derived from their OS.

      If there is anything new here, it's that Google lost some key employees to Baidu (which is not a big surprise considering the recent circumstances). Or it would be that Baidu decided not to copy a rebranded fork of Android, and decided to make their own mobile OS from scratch (just so they could give a slap in the face to Google), but that, the article doesn't make that clear, so I'm just going to assume that Mainland China is just going to stick to its original plan.

    22. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's good for them to aim low on their first attempt.

    23. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're thinking of "they" as Baidu.

      The important player in the list in Tencent, a highly profitable and successful company - the first in the world to actually monetize it's social networks and IM software with micropayment long before anyone else. Horrible as some might consider their software, it does work well, and they released it for Windows, OS/X, Linux, Android, iPhone, iPad, Symbian as well as a dozen less known phone platforms. They're a very different company from Baidu in terms of both technology and management.

    24. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by makoto149 · · Score: 1

      Ha ha! That's what I was thinking. Probably exactly what will happen.

    25. Re:Wait, this is coming from China right? by interval1066 · · Score: 1

      Some one modded me "flamebait" huh? Oh really...?

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  2. Rival? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You surely mean counterfeit, right?

    It'll probably have radium and cyanide and melamine in it too..

    1. Re:Rival? by mark72005 · · Score: 3, Funny

      And it will be for sale on a website named something like "yoyophones23.com" for $19.99 (allow 4 weeks for shipping)

    2. Re:Rival? by w0mprat · · Score: 1

      I'm confused how do you counterfeit open source software?

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    3. Re:Rival? by NFN_NLN · · Score: 1

      I'm confused how do you counterfeit open source software?

      Don't under-estimate the Chinese. We may not have the capability to counterfeit open source software but they WILL find a way.

    4. Re:Rival? by Xest · · Score: 1

      Hmm, a phone that doubles as a yoyo.

      Dude, you realise that you may have just inadvertantly invented one of the coolest things ever?

      I mean think about it... take it out your pocket, use it as a yoyo for a bit, put it in, use it as a phone. You wouldn't need to carry a yoyo and a phone, you'd have both at once.

      Eat that Steve Jobs, my phone doesn't have a fancy shiny antenna around the edge, no, it has string and it doubles as a yoyo.

      This could be the greatest merger of "things" since the Spork. Bonus if it works as a video phone and you can make your boss dizzy as fuck by yoyoing him around the office when he calls you.

  3. I for one... by lunatic1969 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I for one welcome our Chinese Android Overlords.

    1. Re:I for one... by __aaoyac5342 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      iDon't welcome Chinese lording over anything, I like my tech to be free of toxic chemicals and slave labour

    2. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iDon't ... I like my tech to be free of ... slave labour

      Using an i-anything seems a little hypocritical...even if it is only an iDon't

    3. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate to break it to you, but that's where your current android 'device' was built...

    4. Re:I for one... by Cornelius+the+Great · · Score: 1

      Taiwan != China

      Well, at least to the Taiwanese anyway...

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    5. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taiwan != China

      Well, at least to some of the Taiwanese anyway...

      there, fixed that for you.

    6. Re:I for one... by anarche · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, they're what we call the "indigenous population" that were there hundreds of years ago before being colonised by the Chinese.

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    7. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um do you know what the official name of Taiwan is? Look it up and then re-evaluate your statement.

  4. Why? by LBArrettAnderson · · Score: 1

    What's the point? It would be so much easier to just use android and set Baidu as the search engine (since I'm sure that's the motivation behind this).

    1. Re:Why? by 7Ghent · · Score: 1

      SOMEONE SET US UP THE BAIDU!

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that android is not made in the PRC. This is about flag saluting, cock waving nationalism. Next thing you know they will want to send people to the moon.

    3. Re:Why? by grub · · Score: 4, Interesting


      What's the point? It would be so much easier to just use android and set Baidu as the search engine (since I'm sure that's the motivation behind this).

      Nah. Imagine a repressive government having control of the OS in your phone. Could you trust that your phone isn't reporting its location behind your back? (iPhone does but that is anonymous and can be disabled)

      There are so many nefarious things that could be done my tinfoil had needs another layer.

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    4. Re:Why? by LambdaWolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And I was wondering why they would necessarily want to make their own smartphones at all. Google, the company, happens to be in the search business and the smartphone business (among others). Baidu happens to compete with them on search. Is there a reason, other than some irrational copycat strategy, that they would want to go and compete with Google in other markets?

      I guess this could coincidentally be the profitable choice for them, but it leaves the impression that Baidu is trying to horn into Google's market as an end unto itself.

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    5. Re:Why? by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Then Baidu is more nationalist than the PRC government itself, as their national Linux distro is based on a joint cooperation between a Chinese, a Japanese and a South Korean companies, which is itself based on Red Hat.

    6. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This is about flag saluting, cock waving nationalism.

      Goddamn it, there go the Chinese stealing patented American IP again. :)

    7. Re:Why? by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      This is about flag saluting, cock waving nationalism.

      Goddamn it, there go the Chinese stealing patented American IP again. :)

      I realize you're kidding, but I wonder how much of the actual work on Android from Google, and others, has actually been performed in China?

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    8. Re:Why? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Imagine a repressive government having control of the OS in your phone.

      Give me something easier, like imagining a repressive corporation having control of the OS in my phone.

      Evil doesn't become more palatable when it'd done for profit.

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    9. Re:Why? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I was wondering why they would necessarily want to make their own smartphones at all

      Maybe the Chinese government saw what a great success Google had with the Nexus and wanted to get in on the action.

      Or not.

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    10. Re:Why? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      That's probably exactly what they will do. Just take google's code and change the branding.

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    11. Re:Why? by dyingtolive · · Score: 1

      Better than cock saluting, flag waving nationalism.

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    12. Re:Why? by pseudonomous · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but android provides a lot of integration into ALL of Google's most popular web-services, not just search, so it could be that Baidu sees success of Android as being detrimental to Baidu offering competing web-services to things like g-mail, certainly it offers a bunch of apps to do this (I don't know to what extent there's anything actually in the OS that does this) Also they might want to offer a competing "app" marketplace. What probably makes the most sense, would be for Baidu just to take the Android source code, replace the stuff that integrates w/ google web-apps w/ stuff that integrates w/ Baidu web-services, and then publish it w/ their own Marketplace app. I doubt it will be particularly successful, certainly it has no chance at all EXCEPT in China, but who knows...

    13. Re:Why? by NFN_NLN · · Score: 1

      What's the point? It would be so much easier to just use android and set Baidu as the search engine.

      Great, now you just leaked their entire design plan.

    14. Re:Why? by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

      It's more like an opportunity to create a storyline where Google fails and Baidu succeeds. Even the linked article offers it up: Baidu outcompetes Google, forcing them to close shop in China. Now they're going to succeed where Google has misstepped. Or something.

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    15. Re:Why? by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      Is there a reason, other than some irrational copycat strategy, that they would want to go and compete with Google in other markets?

      google isn't in the smart phone or phone OS business. they don't make money on that directly and they never will. their angle is,

      1. get google apps on the phone. this will drive people to google apps on the desktop where they will see advertising.

      2. lock them into google search on their phones. the number of searches coming from smart phones is becoming a significant factor. baidu can't afford to be locked out of that.

    16. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it is very common to have corporations kick in your door and drag you off to a sound beating and then jail. SOP for those who violate Windows license agreements.

    17. Re:Why? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is very common to have corporations kick in your door and drag you off to a sound beating and then jail.

      Ever heard of the RIAA?

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    18. Re:Why? by victorhooi · · Score: 1

      heya,

      I'm a bit confused here - did you mean Google? Because last time I checked, Android was open-source, and even has a vibrant hacking community, so I'm not exactly sure how they have "control" of the OS in your phone?

      Or do you mean err...Nokia and Symbian? Or WinMo? Neither of those have ever been accused of being "repressive"...so I suspect you're simply throwing words around.

      Cheers,
      Victor

    19. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He means Apple...

    20. Re:Why? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      You do realize that the iPhone and all other things iApple are actually made in iChina?

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    21. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Evil doesn't become more palatable when it'd done for profit.

      What the hell are you talking about, son? This is America!

  5. Jealous, Comerade by mark72005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet China's Android consumers get 2.1 before AT&T refugees like myself do

    1. Re:Jealous, Comerade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm.. I have 2.2 on AT&T :) Guess that's 'cause I'm running that failed experiment of a Nexus One, though.

    2. Re:Jealous, Comerade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wouldn't have failed had the Nexus included a hardware keyboard. That is exactly why I didn't buy one.

    3. Re:Jealous, Comerade by epedersen · · Score: 1

      Probably not, as you could get it right now: http://www.htc.com/us/products/aria-att

    4. Re:Jealous, Comerade by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      They have two Android forks. One fork for cheap non-touch phones (based on 1.6). And one for the higher end ones (based on 2.x). Chances are, even their cheap non-touch phones will get the 2.1 update before yours do.

  6. Brilliant move, and actually good for Google by xednieht · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If it runs the same apps the droid runs it could be quite a brilliant outcome for both.

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    1. Re:Brilliant move, and actually good for Google by mark72005 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It will randomly display inspiring images and cultural anecdotes from mao's "Little Red Book"

    2. Re:Brilliant move, and actually good for Google by beakerMeep · · Score: 1

      If it's a different OS, why would it run Android apps? Android's core is based on Linux, but most apps run in the Dalvik Java VM.

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    3. Re:Brilliant move, and actually good for Google by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      It will randomly display inspiring images and cultural anecdotes from mao's "Little Red Book"

      There's an App For That

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    4. Re:Brilliant move, and actually good for Google by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      If it's a different OS, why would it run Android apps?

      If you're not dominant in a market, cross-platform application compatibility is usually beneficial to you.

      Android's core is based on Linux, but most apps run in the Dalvik Java VM.

      Right, so if you were thinking of building a Linux based mobile OS, you wouldn't consider either using the Dalvik VM (which is open source), or writing a VM that was executable compatible with it?

    5. Re:Brilliant move, and actually good for Google by beakerMeep · · Score: 1

      Even if they chose the same core and VM, it still wouldn't make it compatible with the Android API that most apps make use of. If they end up using the Android API, then they arent exactly programming a different OS, just re-implementing Android. I guess it's kind of semantics (are they creating an OS or customizing Android?), but I dont see any reason to assume a totally separate OS would have compatibility with Android apps.

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  7. Bada Bing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Baidu looks suspiciously like Bada, another mobile Linux-based OS in development by the Korean conglomerate Samsung. Maybe they'll adopt that?

  8. Open Source by Yuioup · · Score: 1

    uhm. Isn't that the entire idea behind Open Source?

    Why wouldn't they be allowed to take the Android source code and make their own OS out of it?

    As a matter of fact they can collaborate with Google on this... If I'm not mistaken it's called a "Community" which consists of "Collaborators".

    Y

    1. Re:Open Source by landoltjp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why wouldn't they be allowed to take the Android source code and make their own OS out of it?

      As a matter of fact they can collaborate with Google on this... If I'm not mistaken it's called a "Community" which consists of "Collaborators".

      And you would trust China to Collaborate? I don't think I would. I could however, see Chinese engineers take the existing, available AndroidOS source, ad in some goodies, and notpublish the source changes.

    2. Re:Open Source by Revotron · · Score: 1

      Chinese engineers adding their own custom goodies? Why would I worry about that? A good portion of the source code they'll use for their "goodies" is already available on the internet!

    3. Re:Open Source by abigor · · Score: 1

      Given my experiences with Chinese outsourcing, that's exactly what will happen. Demanding the source will simply lead to scornful refusal.

    4. Re:Open Source by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

      And you would trust China to Collaborate?

      And you trust Google to collaborate? You must not have read the articles about Google (whether more or less intentionally is debated) not publishing their kernel work back to the Linux community. Sorry...

    5. Re:Open Source by beakerMeep · · Score: 1

      Care to share some links? From what I gather they are under no obligation from the GPL/GPLv2 to share kernel code they are running on internal servers, and they do share the kernel code (and hence comply) that is distributed in their app server products.

      Source: http://lwn.net/Articles/357658/

      Surely they have a better reputation for collaboration than China, no?

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    6. Re:Open Source by Minwee · · Score: 1

      Demanding the source will simply lead to scornful refusal.

      How dare they flaunt US Copyright law like that.

    7. Re:Open Source by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

      Basically, it was about Google having made some changes to the kernel, which in turn meant that hardware companies supplying drivers for touch screens and so on had to specifically target the Android-linux variant. As a consequence, those drivers could not work under plain linux, and Google couldn't be bothered to do the work to integrate their changes upstream so it would work. ...or something along those lines. :-)

      Here are a few of the articles that popped up:

      * http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/02/03/1932222/Android-and-the-Linux-Kernel-Community?from=rss
      * http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/04/16/2131215/Devs-Discuss-Androids-Possible-Readmission-To-Linux-Kernel

      I seem to recall that there was quite a bit of undercurrent and background issues going on, so those articles/summaries certainly do not give the full picture.

  9. Baidu copies Google, Google copies Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just goes to show good ideas get recycled and repackaged. In the end, the competition is good for consumers. More competition forces all of them to innovate, so it can't be bad.

    1. Re:Baidu copies Google, Google copies Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see you are going crazy here. Here is to add some more: Baidu copies Google, Google copies Apple Apple copies Nokia, Apple copies RIM, Apple copies Xerox...

  10. Surprised at Slashdot by rainmouse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Loaded up the comments for this news report to see if anyone knew anything about the phone and was confronted with a page of comments of downright racism. I feel quite ashamed all of a sudden.

    1. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Loaded up the comments for this news report to see if anyone knew anything about the phone and was confronted with a page of comments of downright racism. I feel quite ashamed all of a sudden.

      sarcasms against communism is not racisms.

    2. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by Polloxer · · Score: 1

      I do not think that word means what you think it means. You would be hard pressed to classify as racism the notion that a nation's government might try to put propaganda in a product.

    3. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by grub · · Score: 1


      Wowzers...

      In days of yore, we'd be subjected to a GNAA troll with a goatse link and would laugh at ourselves for being fooled.

      Now people get upset about the silliest jokes/trolls.

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    4. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by mark72005 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Lighten up, Francis

    5. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Maybe if they had communism, they clearly do not have that. What could be more capitalist than selling prisoners organs?

    6. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by ElKry · · Score: 1

      I'm ashamed of saying this, myself, but... you must be new here.

    7. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Awe, is your pussy hurting because some people said some mean things that don't even apply to you?

      Do you need to have someone rub it for you?

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    8. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Loaded up the comments for this news report to see if anyone knew anything about the phone and was confronted with a page of comments of downright racism. I feel quite ashamed all of a sudden.

      Well, the comments reflect actual objective experience.

      Your problem seems to be that reality has a well-known politically incorrect bias. Many an idealistic liberal has been burned by that unfortunate misfeature.

    9. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Are you a damn idiot? What does it matter if it applies to him or not?

      While I don't believe the GP comment specifically to be racist, there were a few others that were quite borderline. I'm sure you've heard about WW2? Racism is the most unexcusable crime there is.

    10. Re:Surprised at Slashdot by ZosX · · Score: 1

      China is still basically a communist country with a free market. Nearly everything is state owned. The only reason they are in the WTO is pure corporate greed. Also, it could be argued that it was necessary to prevent another arms race and potential cold war, but it looks like they are hell bent on moving in that direction anyways.

  11. Red Droid! by Kagato · · Score: 1

    Like Android but with Built in filters and state spy-ware. Fun.

    1. Re:Red Droid! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Like Android but with Built in filters and state spy-ware.

      No reason to bring up the iPhone.

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    2. Re:Red Droid! by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      and back doors into voip I would bet

  12. Google vs China in the Linux OS market by selven · · Score: 1

    Whoever loses, we win.

  13. Glorious news everybody! by sv_libertarian · · Score: 1

    Now the heoric and hard working Chinese workers and peasents will no longer have to be exploited by the running dog capitalists at Google! See how the benevolant state cares for it's people?

    1. Re:Glorious news everybody! by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      and comrades the Dacia Sandero copy will be avaible for stakhanovite heroes of the revolution Soon!

  14. Rival? by countertrolling · · Score: 1

    More like partner. Google doesn't like rivals any more than Microsoft does. If they don't break them, they will buy them.

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  15. The risk with android forks is... by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 0

    No more marketplace access - but maybe that is there goal.

  16. This is China, yes it will by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is vanishingly little innovation in Chinese industry. A good portion is just manufacturing companies, that build what other companies request. You come in with designs, specs, and parts, they turn those in to the finished product. A good portion of the remainder is devoted to ripping off products that others make. They copy what parts of the design the can and produce clones. Sometimes said clones are just cheap knockoffs not sold as the real things, other times they try and pass off the whole thing as real. Happens with Cisco products all the time.

    There just aren't many companies developing new products. They aren't in the market of creativity, just mass production.

    Thus, pretty reasonable to guess that what will happen here is that they'll grab Andriod, being open source and all that, replace logos and the search engine, set it to Chinese and call it good. A rip off, not even a derivative.

    1. Re:This is China, yes it will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A good portion is just manufacturing companies

      Those silly Chinese. Basing their economy on manufacturing.

      They should be basing their economy on credit default swaps and subprime mortgages.

    2. Re:This is China, yes it will by anarche · · Score: 1

      ... Says the AC!

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  17. ads by MadGeek007 · · Score: 1

    It would be really funny if they allowed AdMob ads. Then a censored Chinese search giant would be more open than Apple. To the fanboys: It's a joke.

  18. What? Linux as it was meant to be?! by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

    You mean they're going to release a phone that doesn't have commercial lock-ins and a properly open source OS? Damn those commies to hell!

    Seriously, I've been trying to find an open source *nix phone where you don't have to void the warranty to use it. If the Chinese make a decent one then I'll be buying it. Capitalism at its best people, Communists are allowed to play by Capitalist rules if they want to. :)

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  19. Finally, News That China (+2, Helpful) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can do no evil.

    Yours In Krasnoyarsk,
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  20. Re:Engrish Fail by Cornelius+the+Great · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's Bring search, you plick!

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  21. Re:Engrish Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It sucks you got modded down. I laughed.

  22. Lessons learned from Huawei. by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

    Don't forget that Huawei once copied Cisco's IOS including documentation, via stolen source code.

    I wouldn't expect anything different from Baidu

  23. The Real Question is... by 0101000001001010 · · Score: 1

    Who'll want to create apps for it?

    1. Re:The Real Question is... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Tens of thousands of Chinese developers who don't know English and don't care to learn it, targeting millions of Chinese users with the same attitude?

  24. Google is in Bed with US Govt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google is most certainly in bed with the US government.. they don't filter (we assume) but they have snooped WIFI, and they work with NASA.. that's what's out in the public.. but I wold think the relationship is deeper than that..

  25. Re:What? Linux as it was meant to be?! by ianare · · Score: 1
  26. Baidu = ByeDu(de) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah they are great in copying. Now with Android being a Open Source so easy to copy.

  27. Chandroid? by kindbud · · Score: 1

    Andrina?
    TaikOS?

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  28. When news is old ...it makes me think on a tangent by cacba · · Score: 1

    "revealed plans to launch a Linux-based mobile OS in an interview with the Wall Street Journal last year."

    Are there any news sites that compile profiles and use articles more like change logs? While I'm making requests. A site for multidimensional debates, that lets you see different sources of facts and debate of their effects around them.

  29. Not so sure by macroexp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While China-bashing is really popular these days, I wouldn't be so quick to say "they'll just copy Android". There are a LOT of phones in China that run Linux. Most of the Linux distributions used are homegrown by the manufacturer and have little consistency between them. I wouldn't be surprised if Baidu just bought one of the dev teams from a phone manufacturer and had them slap "Baidu" all over everything.

    It would be a Good Thing if they could get it used phones from multiple manufacturers - there might be some hope of writing an app that would run on more than one brand of phone!

    1. Re:Not so sure by saihung · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and they also work like crap and have crap for UIs.

      No, the OP is right and the snide AC who tried to blame the USA is wrong. Despite their massive engineering workforce, there is still stunningly little original design happening in China.

  30. The US still manufactures more than they do by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I know the common Net-tard line is that the US makes nothing, however that's not just wrong, it is the opposite of right. The US produces more manufactured good than any other nation, including China. Now if China continues growing as it has, that will change in about 2020, then the US will be #2.

    Also, a good deal of what the US produces it works to create too. Take things like, say, Intel CPUs. Most of them are made in the US. They do have a few overseas fabs, one in Ireland, one or two in Israel, but most of them are in the US, including their advanced 32nm and 45nm fabs. Of course they aren't just fabbing the chips other design, no they are designing the chips the make. Creativity AND production.

    Also the amount of things made in China is a tad misleading given that the "made in" stamp goes to the country that assembled the final unit, not the source of components. You may find an MP3 player "made in china" with a processor and DAC from the US, capacitors from Japan, a display from Korea and so on. The unit may have been put together in China, but of a foreign design and using foreign parts.

    So sorry, but if you want to hate on the US economy you'll have to find reasons other than manufacturing because the US makes tons of shit. If you are not aware of that fact that shows only your own ignorance of the situation.

    1. Re:The US still manufactures more than they do by thejynxed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And you're ignorant of the situation to still think that the USA still makes tons of shit, when most of it is in fact, manufactured in Mexico, Singapore, Taiwan, Malaysia, etc, shipped to China for final assembly, and then brought back to the USA.

      If your version of things was true, Ohio, PA, and basically any and every other state/commonwealth that relied on manufacturing wouldn't be struggling so much because 90% or more of their manufacturing base is gone.

      Have you actually BEEN to Detroit, Lansing, or ANY of the other manufacturing cities in Michigan lately?

      What the fuck is wrong with your brain?

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    2. Re:The US still manufactures more than they do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, I love it when alarmist people like you say the US doesn't make anything anymore. The US is the largest manufacturer in the world by a huge margin. Look it up it.

  31. My brain is in the facts by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    I don't look at anecdotes, I look at data.

    http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1010305.shtml

    1. Re:My brain is in the facts by sunspot42 · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should conduct a reality check on your "data". If you tally up manufacturing based on the reported "value" of the goods being "manufactured", the US manufacturing sector looks like it's doing pretty good.

      That is until you realize that a huge chunk of what's left of "manufacturing" in America consists of the final assembly of components manufactured overseas (which is where the bulk of the actual work is performed, involving the highest headcounts), and that companies routinely import the components for a manufactured good and then slap on some enormous arbitrary value once it's assembled here. So GM has the parts for a car that's assembled in Michigan imported from all over the globe for $5,000, then assembles it for a couple grand, slaps a $25,000 pricetag on the finished product and claims that $18,000 of value was miraculously "manufactured" here in the US. As-if.

      So our "manufacturing" sector on paper rivals China's, hence your wonky data. The reality is, 95% of the actual work was done overseas for peanuts by an army of peasants with no civil rights. Or clean air. Or clean water.

      It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the numbers cited for domestic manufacturing are total BS, and have been for a couple of decades. In order to truly support those numbers with a robust end to end manufacturing infrastructure and reasonable accounting, you'd need to have massive factories humming away all over the country, a la Germany. Instead virtually all of our manufacturing regions resemble a bombed out postwar landscape, while the few areas that still have marginally robust economies are characterized by office parks and high rises full of service sector employees, not manufacturing.

      People who claim that there's nothing wrong with our manufacturing sector because of "the data" remind me of the guys 5 years ago who claimed that there was nothing wrong with the out of control housing market because all of those homes had been appraised at such-and-such a value and all of the borrowers were proven creditworthy. Uh-huh. Anybody who ever thought that a shack in the Oort Cloud of Riverside, CA was truly worth $500,000, or that a part-time janitor was truly qualified for a $500,000 loan stupidly placed their trust in obviously bogus, manipulated data. Their precious data was entirely detached from reality.

  32. Re:What? Linux as it was meant to be?! by 4phun · · Score: 1

    You mean they're going to release a phone that doesn't have commercial lock-ins and a properly open source OS? Damn those commies to hell! Seriously, I've been trying to find an open source *nix phone where you don't have to void the warranty to use it. If the Chinese make a decent one then I'll be buying it. Capitalism at its best people, Communists are allowed to play by Capitalist rules if they want to. :)

    They even get to add a Chinese version of the new eFuse to keep you from messing with their new Smart Phones.