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  1. not just software! on Why Are Software Rebates Being Rejected? · · Score: 2
    I had a similar incident with a cdrom that I bought. It was a few years ago and I sent a message to slashdot but they did nothing.

    I basically bought my cdrom at Comp USA I think. I got the rebate scanned it and still have a copy of the UPC code as well as the rebate form. I sent it in and they tell me they never got it. I went through this for months till I finally gave up. The cdrom was from Atlas Perpherials. It was a 32X cdrom. They claim they never got it and asked me to email them a bmp of the rebate and all. I did several times and they still stay the never got it. I gave up. Atlas perpherials is a sub of newcom I think or something like that. It has been a while and it was 30 dollars that I was owed.

    I had problems with Iomega and the zip rebate a few years ago where it took forever to get teh rebate, and they were actually sewed by someone about this.

    I also had to wait a while on my zoom modem rebate.

    After all the problems I have had with rebates (especially with Atlas), I NEVER buy ANYTHING that has a rebate unless it is in the store and I get the money at the cash register. This is my own policy and I usually recommend to anyone to avoid rebates. They are usually more of a hastly then they are worth.

    Sure many people have no problems, but I'd rather not spend the money and then have to mail in something to get it back.

    This brings me to privacy policy as well. Why do they need to offer a rebate? Why not just discount it instead? I'll tell you why. They want your mailing address. By sending in a rebate they guarantee getting your return mailng address. Isn't this a violation of my privacy?

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  2. has anyone answered your question? on Adapting Existing Federal Web Sites For The Disabled? · · Score: 2
    I think not really.

    Frist I'd start out by seeing what thes pages look like in lynx browser. Do you see everything? Can all the info be accessed? Many people who are blind or using braile reads WONT get the images, unless you put the alt= tag with ALL the images. Next make sure your URL's are accessable and if you use image maps make sure there is also an alt text.

    Next if you are using JavaScript make sure that you include the noscript so that they can see what they are missing. Also make sure you are not using JavaScript to perform any sort of extra features that they may miss out on if they're braile reading browser does not handle JavaScript. The best way to do this is to turn off JavaScript on your browser and make sure you can still access ALL the functionality of the site.

    Lastly or alternatively you could make a link on the front door to handcap accessable pages.

    Many people here seem to think that they do not need to do anything extra to help the handcap view pages, but they do. Also you should realize that there are more browsers out there than just IE and netscape and some people are minimalists and use some of these lightweight browsers. If this is a goverment page, you MUST be accessable by all.

    Additionally you may want to see how it is in other languages. Some states may require that a site be accessible in multiple languages, like english and spanish, or it may be worth it to make the site this way if it is a local goverment site and you have alot of a particular ethnic group.

    These are suggestions.. the best one is to ask your boss what the hell they really want ...

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  3. and this goes with my theory.. on DSL Woes · · Score: 2
    That the onle way DSL will really take off is if ddsl modems are as easy to obtain as 56k modems and as easy to install.

    Several companies make this technology, where you install a network card in your computer hook it up to the modem and attach filters to your phones, but they only sell it through them. What ends up happening is you end up waiting and waiting for the parts to come. Earthlink, Telocity and Radio Shack have this technology as wel I am sure there are others. This means you don't need covad or anyone else to install any new phone lines in your house.

    This also has the adcantage that if you move you don't have to get a new line in your new place, you just move your modem and filters with you.

    This of cource would mean that Covad would do less business, but so what who wants to deal with Covad there ISP and PacBell when something goes wrong with the line anyway???? (Yes some people do have to deal with this just look at dslreports.com).

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  4. legally?? yes.... on Can Companies Control What You Say After You Leave? · · Score: 2
    The company you used to work for has no 'legal' hold on you. However if you say something that makes its way to the public eye that they can constrew as slanderous then they can take legal action for slander. If you said something like the work atmosphere started to suck and the management had there head up there butts and you just couldn't take it anymore then I am not sure that is really slander.

    There is probably a case of someone saying something about a company after they left. I know that the company that I used to work for many people left and were laid off or fired, and many went to the press and told why they left.

    You must be careful what you say about a company after you leave. Make sure you do not slander them.

    I think it says something about the company though when they monitor people after they leave a company. The question is is it a public mailing list or private? Yahoo groups can be public (anyone can see the data) or private (you must be on the list). My suggestion would be to make it a private mailing list or to talk to the list moderator.

    Something to think about. If what you say on that list got out to the tech community and we find out the company name, and this causes them to have a tough time finding people to work for them, and thir business suffers. Then they can probably take action against you.

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  5. Re:FreeBSD lacks some packages.. and.. on FreeBSD 4.1.1 vs. Linux 2.4 · · Score: 2
    vmware crashes more on FreeBSD than Linux assuming you get it to run..

    more games area available for linux that wont run to well under FreeBSD ...

    You have been caught in the hype of Linux, and missed the BSD boat.

    Mainly I use Linux at this point because of the package management. Sure you can say BSD has the ports, but that is not really package management like rpm or deb. I know that not everyone like package manangement, but it is actually a benifit to some of us.

    I do wonder why Linux does some of the things that it does. In particular why it is so common in the linux community to make it so difficult on upgrade. libc5 to glibc rpm 3 to rpm 4, etc. I hav ealso noticed that FreeBSD uses a better system configuration. Baasically on FreeBSD I am told that you have one config file that sets up weather or not to run X and weather or not to run inetd and all the services etc, where as Linux distros usually have so many in the rc scripts. This could be changed, but for some reason we like sys V style??

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  6. Re:pango on Dave Mason On GTK+ 2.0, Pango, Gtk And More · · Score: 2
    yes.. like that.. as part of the default gtk+ widget set??.. that and if they make sockets a little easier, then, I'll build my own damn web browser.. somethink a step up from lynx, but just a browser.. with some neat features too.. I have ideas now.. maybe after the gtk+ 20 release, I'll build a browser in a weekend...

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  7. pango on Dave Mason On GTK+ 2.0, Pango, Gtk And More · · Score: 2
    They didn't mention that pango should bring gtk a better text widget. Pango should supply a text widget that actually has horizontal scroll bars, and better performance. This is good as it will make the text editors in gnome/ gtk better, more usable. Hopefully it will make it easier to make a html widget for gtk / gnome, that will give gnome a lightweight web browser (that doesn't require mozilla to be downloaded).

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  8. Re:low power machines on Why Don't Servers Support Power Management? · · Score: 2
    My point was that not everyone needs a super fast machine. Many people who use computers in the offices do word processing, excell spread sheets, and other things that are rarely that CPU intensive. Mostly they are memory intensive. A 400 Mhz machine is plenty fast for lots of people. I occasionally load my machine and it is a 233 Mhz, but I can still listen to my mp3 and write code and surf the web jsut fine. There seems to be this I need a faster machine thing going on when the reality is that MOST people don't. Generally speaking gamers are the number 1 users of fast computers. Them and weather forcasting. Yes it is true that some people do need fast computers but not a large group.

    As for Mhz and volts, well yes they are. Most faster processors have lower core voltages, this is how they get them faster, that and the fact that they use more transistors and smaller gates. They could use this smaller gate technology to make a 400 Mhz processor that would run cooler with smaller gates but the same schematic layout. A cooler smaller processor with a lower core voltage would use less power. Than the current 400Mhz processor.

    Some graphics cards can do over 200 fps. your eye can't see it so why do you need it? Go ahead have your seasures, just tape it and put it on the net so I can have a laugh.

    Tech exists today to give the average person a low power inexpensive computer, just look at netpliance. Their big flaw was makeing a home networking appliance that had to be connected to the internet. If they made it a low power computer then they may have made it more popular.

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  9. slashcode on The Haps from LWCE: Samba Wins, RH w/XFS, BOF · · Score: 1
    It would be interesting in slashcode to see some more things added. Like to add in a controversial (sp) dropdown menu item or maybe a debateable menu item with the rest of the moderating tags.

    Also it may be nice to be able to send people email with /. articles, or posts.

    Lastly it would be nice if signatures could be longer.

    Just my .02 cents. I only use this code here at /. .

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  10. Re:quick quick .. on RedHat "Fisher" 7.1 Beta Out Now · · Score: 2
    sorry let me clarify my initial post of "quick quick..."

    After doing a make modules_install, it installed my modules in /lib/modules/2.4.0, which is fine, but the directory structure was all screwey, as well there was a sym link called 'build' back to my /opt/linux-2.4.0 directory. Explain that one? I looked at the changes. I noticed that the whole make menuconfig had completely changed. Some for the better, but it seems that the bttv drivers have somewhat disappeared, or maybe I was not looking in the right place (video). It was just a whole confusing mess, that at that time I did not want to deal with, as well they have just released 2.4.1 a few days ago. By the time that RH 7.2 comes out 2.4.10 shoudl have been released ot maybe later and it should have most of the bugs worked out of it. I can't afford to have my system in a state of mayhem. I need it to much in a stable state. So as I said I'll wait til. 7.2.

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  11. low power machines on Why Don't Servers Support Power Management? · · Score: 2
    I think a better idea would be low power machines. Rather than the machine sleeping. LEts face it most people don't need a 1.2 Gig Hz CPU. Many people would do fine with about a 400 Mhz, unless they are super serious gamers. Even then 500 Mhz is probably fast enough. They have the technology to make lower power consuming CPU's (2.3 volt) so why don't they use this technology to make lower power other components. Like video cards. The human eye can only process 72 fps (about) but we ahve cards that do over 200 fps. What's that for seasures? What about a 100 fps video card that used half or a quarter of the power of a 200+ fps card. Granted that a computer uses little power as it is, but when you have a company and multiply that by thousands then you can see why we in CA have a power problem. (That and other reasons).

    There is no reason that other technology in computer coudl not be low power. They do it for lap tops, why not desktops?

    Maybe what the PC really needs is a redesign, so that you can have smaller and lower power componets as standard. Maybe desktop PC should use pcmcia or some other small technology to make them not only low power, but smaller insize.

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  12. quick quick .. on RedHat "Fisher" 7.1 Beta Out Now · · Score: 2
    Download those 1000 Megs and report all those bugs and .. and ..

    Oh who am I kidding.. if you download this make sure you know what you are doing. This is a beta and that means more bugs than a full release.

    I.E. BACK UP YOUR SYSTEM!!!

    Personally I'll continue waiting for 7.2 before I upgrade my 6.2 system. I imagine that they may be including 2.4 and I had problems with that already, just installing the modules. It did run though.

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  13. this sounds a little dangerous on Mozilla.org Releases Protozilla · · Score: 1
    What if someone gets the code and modifies it so that it can somehow execute cgi on someone else's machine? I am not sure this is possible, but this sounds a little like embedding an http server in a web browser.

    What I'd like to see the mozilla team is to invent a browser that does not suck up all my system resources. I just want a browser. A simple browser that runs on UNIX / Linux. That handles html 4.0 as well as Java and JavaScript and can do netscape plugins, like real audio, mp3, midi, flash and wave files.

    Mozilla .7 was still to bloated to run at home, after installing the jvm. Personally I think that the jvm that they are using sucks butt. It launches about 30 threads that just take up all my memory. Why????

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  14. Re:www.gwbinanoose.com on Bush And The Tech Nation · · Score: 2
    It still is. Or have you not noticed that we still have segregatio nin many schools. Although it is not 'required' by law or anything, many choose to stay segregated. Litle Havana in Miami, BCC in Daytona Beach.

    I think that abortion, while maybe morally wrong, should still be a choice. When does a fetus become a life? So let another unwanted life into the world. Then what they grow up to be a killer and then you execute them. This is the problem I have. Most people who are anti-abortion are also pro death penalty. Like my parents! They don't understand that if you bring an unwanted child in the world you are asking for trouble. I think that we should be makeing detecting pregnancy better. I think we need to make sex educatino part of school. Like part of 6th grade. LEts face it while you may not want you 6th grader having sex you may not be able to stop them from experimenting. Then what she gets pregnant. SHould a 6th grader who is fully mature be 'required' by law to have a baby? How about making it a more safe procedure. Educating our childern and doing more preventitive measure of that sort rather than out lawing it.

    Tru Brown vs Board of Education may have made a change in a Supreme Court Decision, but the decision was flawed in the fact that seperate is not equal. This was proven when the african americans were not getting as good an education as the whites. It was evident in test scores and such. There is no precident in Roe vs. Wade. What kind of case are they going to make? It is against their religion? That is what is wrong with these people, they are trying to bring Religion into goverment. This is a bad idea, that is why our founding father seperated the two.

    My god is better than your god. My god is not a being but my god is everything. My god is nature, and nature is everywhere. And even in nature animals kill their own. From ant to man we all kill our own and it is part of nature, for the strongest and the smartest to survive. .. rant rant rant...

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  15. Re:www.gwbinanoose.com on Bush And The Tech Nation · · Score: 2
    BOOM!

    Pop goes the world.

    I think it is asking for trouble to outlaw RU 486 in the US. Why? Cause it is legal in Canada. Thus people who can get to Canada will be able to get the drug. Also it will be like trying to stop cocaine from coming in from Mexico. Like that has been successful. Truth is more people probably die from drug related transactions than drug abuse (Keyword is probably).

    If they try to overturn Roe Vs Wade, that will set a presicdent for future or ANY Supreme court decisions. Thus ANY court decision would be up for being overturned. ANY. Lets face it that decision was made 20 years ago, lets live with it.

    Personally I am not for abortion, but I am for CHOICE, as I think our founding fathers would be as well. If you are not for abortion then rather than bomb clinics then why aren't these people actually going to the clinics trying to talk the people having the abortions into NOT haveing the abortions. Why is it done with force?

    I think you are partially right, I think we are going to be plunged into a 4 year period of law suits and protests, and possibly violence against big business and goverment.

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  16. Re:The hotmail thing... on Slashback: Blockage, Stripes, Upswings · · Score: 2
    They suck. I used to use hot mail and they lost my mail during several upgrades. Their reply was sorry. That was after M$ took over. Yahoo does upgrades and does not loos my mail, why should they. They also seem to know that much about mail anyway.

    Give upi your hotmail account and get a better account at mail.yahoo.com. And NO I'd don't work for yahoo, and this has nothing to do with hating M$. Yahoo mail is just better!

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  17. Re:Not comparable .. well partially true on Is Mac OS X Threatening Linux? · · Score: 2
    "Yes, the Apple toolkits are better than Qt and Gtk+. But you can get equivalent toolkits for Linux already. Just look at GNUStep, Java/Swing, and a variety of other toolkits. "

    And my point was that all this too will be availabe to OS X users as well. Java wiull be FULLY integrated into the OS, or so I hear. GNUStep will probabley run there as well as the variety of other tool kits.

    If you have ever used PowerBuilder or VC, you'd see why noone could have been successful doing something like this on UNIX. People who use UNIX tend to want 'fast' & quick and clean and neither of these tools worked that way. VC requires about 128 Meg of RAM to operate 'okay'. Powerbuilder does okay with 32.

    I'm not knocking Linux, I like it and use it every day. But I think that OS X actually presents a threat to M$ more than Linux. All the UNIX programs would be easy to port to OS X rather than Windows, especially if they are POSIX compliant. Personally I am looking forward to checking out OS X. For me, someone who does not want to care about all the underpinnings of an OS, but wants the stability I have only seen in UNIX liks OS's (i.e. not windows), this may be a third option. And so what if it cost 3 grand. Many people spend that on top of the line PC's.

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  18. Re:Not comparable .. well partially true on Is Mac OS X Threatening Linux? · · Score: 4
    Linux and OS X are at the basically the same. A UNIX like or UNIX kernel. Both can have xterm, and a GUI on top (think darwin). OS X is just a more polished GUI. The problems that everyone here is missing is that OS X is more like BSD (Mach kernel) or the hurd (also Mach).

    The other thing people are missing is that OS X will have something(s) Linux WONT. Quicktime (used exclusively on many sites), IE 5.5 (needed for some sites you debate the good or bad of this), office, and many more windows programs. Linux wont have these. It will basically have all that Linux has plus a whole lot more.

    Lastly OS X will ahve cocoa and carbon, which although I have not used, I have heard are way better than QT and gtk/gnome API's. AS well they are making a program that will make GUI creation easier and faster than Visual Cafe or Powerbuilder.

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  19. this is all to true of the internet on Internet Ad Network Commentary · · Score: 2
    To many businesses DIDN'T have a business model. The VC made them go IPO so that the VC could get their money back, and then the investors were stuck with sucky stock.

    This coupled along with the fact that many saw dollar signs and this drew in every lowlife around. In fact there is AT LEAST one company that was founded on the premise that the owner would get a bunch of investors make a phoney product and then take the money and run. While his prodect is now makeing money and it turn out that he was a convicted felon. The point is that these type of people were also drawn into the industry along with the good old programmers and business men. Thus it became take or be taken kind of industry with many companies that had piss poor management. Anyone who has worked in a dot-com knows this.

    Oh well lets hope that on line ads don't die completely, else more dot-coms will die.

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  20. Re:old news on Government Takes Control Of The Net; 2000 In Review · · Score: 2
    First you accept the cookies that you want to accept. Then edit your cookies file and delete teh first cookie that is from netscape, then delete any from doubleclick. Next save the file. Then you do a chmod 400 cookies. Then you go into cookies preferences and accept cookies that go to originating server. Now every time you shutdown your browser the cookies disappear.

    I have used proximotron for windows and yes it can filter out more data, but some websites don't work if you do that. This way you loose nothing in the viewing and when you revist a site after restarting the browser they have to reset all the cookies all over again. This is good inviting sites like doubleclick.

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  21. old news on Government Takes Control Of The Net; 2000 In Review · · Score: 2
    This article does not really say anything new. China maybe the newest info I saw, but Yahoo and France is very old news. As is the part about US schools and content blocking as well as knowing where a user is coming from. However this article DOES put things in perspective. All goverments are trying to limit the amount and type of information that people get.

    What the article leaves out is what is already being done on the web. Doublecklick has already mapped out many ip addresses on the web. What does this mean and why? When they get some one to advertise with them the advertiser can get where you came from on the planet from your IP address. While this is not fool proof, it is a start. (See the articles mention of the ip 'spoofing' i.e. surfing anonymously). They also don't mention how many sites are using cookies to track people. Again I can mention doubleclick, who puts a cookie on your system and then tracks it ALL over the web. (Unless you are like me and has done a chmod 400 on your cookies file .. see linux.com for more info on that).

    Furthermore they don't mention how US companies are watching their employees, by monitoring the traffic going in and out of the corporate firewall. And yes I have known people who have gotton in trouble cause they did't know they were 'being watched'. This is really not 'new' it was happening back in 1997, at many companies when intranets took of and LANS became the 'standard' way of a company operating.

    While this article is definately worth a read, I think that many regular /. readers already know most of this stuf anyway. This is actually the kind of article that needs to be put in newspapers like the NY Times as well as the Wall Street Journal and soe other papers, so that not just techies know about this.

    Personally I think that it is just going to get worse too. People are going to demand more and better filtering software. Maybe a good business to get into too. 'Content Filtering'. Only problem is that once you learn how to filter you learn that their are ways around the filters as well.

    It is like building a mouse trap. The minute you think you have a perfect trap, you end up with smarter mice.

    Hopefully I will still be around when the human race evolves and realizes that it is just content and that it means nothing, but then again I live in a world that believes that 'God' is a being and not a concept. Some people will never get it.

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  22. they must be reading my posts on New Thinkpad To Combine Pen/Paper · · Score: 2
    Not to long ago I suggested that someone come up with something NEW in the way of an OS. It was a MAC OS X article here on /. . Everyone hung on my suggestion of vioce recognition and said how BAD an idea that is and blah blah. My point, that everyone missed was that not since Mac introduced the Mouse and GUI to the world (sold to public) the PC / Mac have not really changed. Inputs are still the same. We still use the 20 year old mouse and how old is that keyboard?

    Well although this may not be the end all of ideas, it is good to see that someone is thinking about new means of inputs.

    Personally I'd like a handwriting recognition pad for my computer at home and at work. So that I could use the stylis(sp) as a pointer as well as a partial replacement for the keyboard.

    You know I am not talking about replacing the keyboard and mouse, but I am talking about making more available and less expensive alternate means of computer input.

    It will be funny if in 10 years we have a full generation of repetitive stress syndrome people cause they are all forced to use computers with primitive keyboards & mouse from first grade through college. Then we will be forced to come up with new ideas.

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  23. the biggest threat to M$ is on Ballmer Claims Linux Is Top Threat To MS · · Score: 2
    M$© With the way that they are closing the doors on windows it will be a wonder who will want to use it© They are coming up with anti piracy software in their new OS, and what is next©

    Hmm whats's next? You can install the software once, but if your HD crashes you must buy a new copy© No not yet, but I am sure they are going to try this©

    Software 'rental'© That is what ©net really is© You don't own the software you rent the use of the software, and they charge you by the month© Sure you may always have the latest and 'greatest', but is it really what you want? What about if they introduce file format incompatiblities? You also may end up with their latest beta, or as they call it a realease©

    Lets see, what else, could they do© I am sure they could do other things, but I think that they are most likely to hurt themselves© Oh, now I remember, they are doing that thing where you can only install software that is okayed by M$© Gee IF they do this all those developers may have a tough time©

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  24. core reuse and objects on The Object Oriented Hype · · Score: 2
    have nothing to do with each other© If you reuse object you can stil get stuck with stuff that you dont want© An object has properties, and it may be that the object that you are using has properties that you probably don't want, but if you use that object you get stuck with them©

    Personally I think OOP is okay in some cases© Take for instance Tcl/Tk© Tk is probably the best GUI programming language that I have ever used© Unfortunately that is about all it is good for© Yes you can do more with it, but I think the GUI is is probably the best© Guess what it is done with objects as well© The button, the text the lable the entry, etc© Tk is also not to heavy as far as overhead either© Some may say that java is better, but I have actually tested a simple GUI text editor and the java editor was slower to start and slightyl slower than Tk© I have also used powerbuilder© Now there is a nice OOP language© To bad it is so slow and flakey©

    I have also tried C/C++ and the problem they both have it memory management© And lets face it trying to figure out do I need to destroy or free this can be a real pain in the butt©

    Personally I'd like to see a language that has syntax like perl, but is compiled and effecient like C© Maybe C with garbage collection© Instead of me having to malloc and free, I'd just declair char * item;, and then maybe item = "string"; Then when I am done with that string I'd forget about it© Sort of like Java, but a language that does not require you to do everything with objects like perl© More like a JavaScript / perl / C / Java cross© Powerscript ¥Powerbuilder is close, but is not a general programming language, it is a propritary language©

    Oh and if you look at KDE and GNOME projects, both have major code reuse and one is OOP and the other is not ¥not really, and they are both awesome works of coding©

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  25. Re:Pot, meet kettle. Don't be calling names, now. on She Was Fired, But Never Told · · Score: 2
    I read the article, but I would not put this behavior past a dot-com. The behavior of dot-com management is use and abuse. I read the article and my question was not based on weather it is true or not, but weather it is legal or not to NOT tell someone that they are fired. Even if this is not a true story, it still posses the question of weather this kind of behavior is legal.

    YOu probably never worked for a dot-com, so you don't knwo what some of them do. There are some that just close there doors and post signs out of business and the employees are never told. Some people at the company that I work for were laid off and when they came in security escoreted them out. They were not allowed to access their computers, they were given a box and escorted out by security. So I don't question weather this is true or not, I think it is entirely possible given the past year and how managers of many dot-coms have behaved.

    There is one famous dot-com (book company) that is has its employees trying to organize a union, cause they are tired of working 16 hour days. Why are they working such long days? Cause the managerment laid off a lot of the staff, but they want to keep the same amount of work. They want to reach profitability.

    The dot-coms have brought a rash of criminals and scum in with all the tech workers. Many of these people are just her eto make a quick buck and screw the other guy. While this happens in other industries, it has had an over abundance of occurances in th edot-com world.

    People like you just don't get it, and you never ever will. You r mind is closed and you cannot find the key to opening the door and seeing the truth.

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