If you read the article they said that wuftpd had been comprimized by the crackers. It is not that proftpd is better, it is that they know how to hack into wuftpd and have already exploited it. (At least taht was my understanding from the the other documentation that they had links to). This is mute anyway since my ipchaines are set up to deny port 21 from ppp and log requests to those ports.
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I knew there was a reason that I started locking down my box this year. After reading a few articles here is what I suggest as a minimum.
First I dont run wuftpd, I use proftpd. That eliminates one of the areas of problems.
The second is I use ipchains to log on my ports taht might be scanned. This means that if someone scans my machines I have a log of the originating IP. Although this is probably not there ip it is a starting point atleast and can lead to other machines that they have comprimized.
Next I have a script that parses the system log, to check for things that came from a possible scan this run every 15 seconds. So that basically gives them 15 seconds to hack my machine. I hope they can do that other wise I hear festival go off saying I am being scanned. It needs som e work to be perfected, but it is a start at seeing if I am being scanned an dhacked. I am lucky though it is just one machines.
I am more worried about my machine at work. Several days ago someone else used my machine and they said they gave there password out to someone else who may have use the machine. This is total stupiditiy on that persons part for handing out her password, and yes I reported her to our security. If my machine is use in DDOS then I know who is going to get in serious trouble for it.
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This sounded like the windows model. Windows tries to limit the knowledge of the bugs, but sometimes they have no choice. In general Windows is not going to tell you about bugs, unless they are 'popularized'. Maybe this is good, but I guess it depends on who knows about these bugs. In the case of Open Source you need to reach the author(s).
On a side note I am kind of amazed at how many articles there are, appearing on slashdot lately, about security. I think it is good, but I also wonder if this is a little overdone? Earlier this week I read three articles on securing your Linux box. Well I'd ahve to say, mine is not as secure as the authors, but it is close. Most of my services in inet are turned off like he said. I unfortunately do use ftp adn telnet althoguth I am moving to ssh soon. I have a window box that I frequently transfer files between th etwo and until I find a windows GUI replacement for wxftp I'll have to have ftp (not for me for the windows users). I do have other services but most are not running through inetd. Except Linux conf. I do need to change that default port though.
Well I think it is good to know about how to secure your machine, shoudl some of these vendors start 'closing up ' the machines and set up some kind of GUIs to make it easy to open these services when people want. Here is what I propose to the vendors. Stop shipping the machines with inetd, or at least give people the option at install to install inetd. (some do some don't). Offere an alternative like the author of one of the articles I read earlier this week did tcp that is more configurable than inetd. Ship the distros with ssh and scp and have these as the default installs rather than telnet and ftp. (This goes for windows also as there is a new windows bus in telnet). WE need to get on the software makers to make it there priorities to make the distributions securer. THis goes for ALL software makers including M$, Linux distros, and Mac etc.
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Hmm maybe I was not clear in my point or maybe you missed it.
Alot of the debate here centers on how much damage is actually done by this and the
relative severity of the punishment and I think that's the appropriate place for the debate
to be.
When you ask how much damage is done, well think of it this way. If someone hacks into a computer system and then posts the credit cards of all the users to a web site, then ALL those users have to get new credit card numbers. There is nothing wrong with someone being different in society. That is nowhere near my point. Being different is fine. We have asian, african american, caucasion, hispanic, catholic, jew, hebrew, protestant, gay, straight, etc. or whatever. There is nothing wrong with being differnt in any way shape or form.
The problem arises when someone acts on out against society in a hurtful maner. Hacking systems is just as destructive as breaking into a bank or house. How would it feel if someone broke into your home. I'll tell you. I no longer felt safe in my old place. There is emotional damage. When someone hacks a computer system, the punishment shoudl probably be the same as breaking an entering. If they takes something the punishement shoudl prbably be theft.
Being different does not give you the right to harm others, and that is what you do when you hack systems. That was my point. You don't just hurt the corporation, you hurt everyone that uses that computer system. Hackers or maybe I should say "Crackers" which is the proper term should be punished.
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To answer the question " Who is harmed?", I'd say we all are. We are a society and when member go astray like this it hurts the whole society.
In this particular case it hurts all the users of the system that was hacked and had there passwords stolen. It also hurts the people running the system. No not just the admins the whole organization is affected. Why? The admins are affected, cause they were not on top of there job, securing the system and maintenance and all that stuff (at least that is how some will percieve it). The owner looses his credibility to run a secure operation. Uses loose there passwords and possibly the system. Well we know it is not necessarily the admins fault. There is no perfectly secure system. Alsost all systems can or do get hacked weather by DDOS or what not somebody with nothing else to do trys to screw up someone else's life, cause they can and they are pissed off at the world for no real reason.
Someone recently told me that there will always be security breaches in software cause software today has so many lines of code. THere will always be hackers too.
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In the pacific RIm they are growing in there adoption of Linux. It is inexpensive, which is one thing that they like, TurboLinux has a presense there which RH does not. Suse is big in Euroland, so that leaves Cladera an RH for the US. Caldera is actually producing pretty good distro these days from what I have seen, and were one of the first to do the full X GUI install. So it makes sense.
Corel added crap into KDE that added problems to people who tried to compile other programs against it, atleast that is what out on slashdot a while ago, which probably pissed some people off. Corel seems to have gone down the tubes in all its business though that is another story.
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IE 5.5 does not reder all pages correctly. and that is what he was talking about so I think you are the MORON. Besides there was no article you dick wad.
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It is still way more cheaper than windows 9x or later. Mac is doing that right. I am thinking of switching to Mac real soon. Like maybe in a year or so.
I read a review on OS X and it is supposed to be much like NeXT. Coolness if this is true, cause I like the NeXT feel.
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Microsoft invented the wheel didn't you know that?
It does say 'implementation' which means that they are going to make it available for Windows OS.
I am not that familiar with windows tcp, but my guess is that it does not currently support IPv6. This could mean that they are now going to. The problem I see is that they could potentially do the same thing to it that they did to kerbos.
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That URL above is where slashdot posted that Tivo okayed hacking of there systems. We already new that. So they are tracking what you view. Slashdot is tracking all your comments, as well as your preferences. I mean don't you think that slashdot knows more about you then Tivo does? Does anyone else wonder if slashdot is targeting ads at them?
On a less parynoid note. This is not really anything new. Web site are doing this all over the place. Any data that they can get about you to figure out what you may or may not buy is used. Doubleclick does this just read there privacy statement. What is Tivo's privacy statement? Do they even have one? Maybe that is the question that you should be asking your self.
Personally, I think it would be better to just put a UPS on your VCR and go about things that way. Then you don't have these concerns, you don't get programs that you probably don't want. And guess what, it works!
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Having worked in a goverment agency in the past, I'd have to say it is a little of both. Keeping a internet connected network secure is a difficult job, but goverment workers are usually not the most motivated. The US goverment also has a tendancy to contract out much of its IT work, so they do not have any internel experts. Sure they say they do but most of there experts are not people whom actually are experts. Think of it this way. In the USPTO it was not till 1997 that they actually outfitted all the patent examiners with computers. Many other agencies are the same way. Most of these people were reluctant at first to even answere there email let alone use the computer (yes this is true there was a big issue over this in the USPTO). They contracted out all the installation and had formal training. This is how you log in this is how you log out. When the goverment contracts out they do not always go for the best company. They have a unique system for determining who gets the contract and sometimes who gets it does not deserve it. With no experts and probably not the best company doing the work, how can they be secure. Also with people who generally don't care, this tends to be the norm. I bete if they polled more gov agencies they woudl find this to be a very common thing.
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They said that the cell phones do heat the brain, but that thinking and mind exercises would do this more intensly. I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that they also mention that when these devices are on they respondants answered 'faster'. It would make sense. If your brain is already warm then it would not have to warm up to the exercise.
Personally I think that if you have a cell phone glued to your head all the time this constant heating is going to have some effect on the brain. Probably negitive. Think about it logically , long term exposure to the sun can cause cancer if you are out tanning (skin cancer). However short term exposures don't. If you are out side each day and walk around you probably wont get skin cancer, it is only when you are in the sun for long terms. Maybe the heating of the brain by the cell phone is the same thing. Maybe what they need are long studies of several years.
I have a cell, but I uise it maybe once a week, or less. It is more of an emergency thing in case I am stranded somewhere or attacked or something. But I imagine that those people that drive , walk and use cells virtually 24/7 are at some sort of risk to brain cancer. the problem is that it would take years to prove and none of these studies has been done for more than 5 years. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Isn't that a monopolistic tactic? Considering a I work for a portol, I think it sucks. It does not lend to fair playing. People use what is convienent. If this new portol is more convienint than others it could poise itself to being the dominant player in the portol world. This is unfair, IMHO. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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"According to Morgan, a group of Linux game programmers recently
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This was in kernel traffic either last week or the week before. I think that it was not added cause it was either alot of changes or it was messy code. I think also that Linus has his wants and not wants in the kernel.
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They are gone. We had a program here that some of the work was outsourced and guess what. It was done half assed and now they are gone and it does not work.
We have another program that is incomplete. Only part of the functionality was completed. Shall I go on?
Get a support contract if you are going to outsource.
Make sure that you have complete documentation of what was done.
Make sure you have some techies to work with the group that you are outsourcing so that you have some knowledge in the company.
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The biggest problem with outsourcing is that they never know how you are going to use the product. Really use the product. Yes you go over all the details with them. You scope out the project. But there are ALWAYS issues that fall between the cracks and they popup up after the outsource group is gone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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They were able to get QT under the GPL. So why not. Can someone elplain what hte problem with the QPL was that made this whole issue? Other than it was not the GPL. Does this mean that a MPL version of mozilla will not be able to be included with debian? Good thing they are dual licensing it. I am amazed at how many companies are now bowing to the GPL and Linux. Don't get me wrong I love Linux and think it is great, but I am kind of suprised. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I'm guessing you are being sarcastic to the max. I like it. It sounds like you are really playing win2k to be superior, but then when you think about it you sound more like a true Linux fan. I like the reboot part. Yeah rebooting machines make a system real stable (LOL). Just think about what it does to your uptimes too. Who needs to be up 24x7 these days too. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Bochs is older than 1998, as is dosemu. If you look at the page it says paten pending since 1998. IF this is a true page, they could get a paten unless those backing Bochs an ddosemu get in touch with the USPTO. Someone needs to verify that this is a true filing. If so then someone needs to contact the USPTO. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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It would be different if it was just put these tags in your page and viola. It is more of a case of you need to learn JavaScript to use this code. There was not easy solution. The page was entirely in JavaScript. He needed to learn javaScript to use the page it was that simple. No he wanted me to do his page so he coudl call it his work.
I write open source programs. If someone wants a feature I'll try to add it, if they send me code, that is even better, and I'll integrate it so that it works well with my other code. I have borrowed code from other pages, but I LEARNED JavaScript. The point is that when dealing with Web Pages if it is just HTML go ahead and take the HTML, but if it is JavSCript or Java or whatever it may not be as easy as plug in and use. Why should I modify my source code for him to use? I told him he could use it but he needed to figure out how to do so.
So what is a programmer that both steals code and writes his onw?
"Why *should* the guy admiring your site bother to learn how to create the effect from scratch?"
I never said he had to create the effect from scratch. I said he needed to learn JavaScript so that he could figure out how to integrate it into his page. If I was using a perl script to generate my page, should I be the one to modify that perl script so that you can use it on your page? I think not. That is what was happening here. In the case of the page in question. The guy took the code an made it his 'own'. He did not say hey linux.com how did you do this I want ot copy it. He took it and put in his stuff. Stealing just the layout. Think about it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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He did not want to learn, he wanted me to say put these tags in your page and do this and it will work for you. Most people who learn to code, usually learn by example or accident. Taking code and learning fro it is one thing. But taking code and just using it can be theft. I was not asked hey can I borrow this code or that code. It was I like your design so and I want ot copy it, so how did you do this or that so I can make it look like I did it first. Using HTML pages to learn what to do and how to do it is how I learned. But my pages are now MY own, done by me and not copied from somewhere else. They may not be as fancy as some others, but I like to be able to do what I do I HTML, and am looking forward to when I can do it with xml, xul, xhtml, and Javascript.
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If deep linking is considered bad, by the courts, what do the courts thing about complete coping of a web site. I had a guy ask me once how did some things on my web page. It was mostly done in JavaScript, so I said that he needed to learn JavaScript if he wanted to copy it. It is bad enough that someone is going to rip my design, but then to ask me to help them rip my design is really bad.
I think he could possibly get into trouble if he has images on his web site that area copied and he does not have permission. I think I have heard of that happening before. Are the images free?
Also there was a case of a company sewing another company cause the first company did work on a web site and the second company fied the first and then brought in someone else and the new someone continued the work on the web site, and the first company threatened to sew. I amm not sure where that went.
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First I dont run wuftpd, I use proftpd. That eliminates one of the areas of problems.
The second is I use ipchains to log on my ports taht might be scanned. This means that if someone scans my machines I have a log of the originating IP. Although this is probably not there ip it is a starting point atleast and can lead to other machines that they have comprimized.
Next I have a script that parses the system log, to check for things that came from a possible scan this run every 15 seconds. So that basically gives them 15 seconds to hack my machine. I hope they can do that other wise I hear festival go off saying I am being scanned. It needs som e work to be perfected, but it is a start at seeing if I am being scanned an dhacked. I am lucky though it is just one machines.
I am more worried about my machine at work. Several days ago someone else used my machine and they said they gave there password out to someone else who may have use the machine. This is total stupiditiy on that persons part for handing out her password, and yes I reported her to our security. If my machine is use in DDOS then I know who is going to get in serious trouble for it.
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On a side note I am kind of amazed at how many articles there are, appearing on slashdot lately, about security. I think it is good, but I also wonder if this is a little overdone? Earlier this week I read three articles on securing your Linux box. Well I'd ahve to say, mine is not as secure as the authors, but it is close. Most of my services in inet are turned off like he said. I unfortunately do use ftp adn telnet althoguth I am moving to ssh soon. I have a window box that I frequently transfer files between th etwo and until I find a windows GUI replacement for wxftp I'll have to have ftp (not for me for the windows users). I do have other services but most are not running through inetd. Except Linux conf. I do need to change that default port though.
Well I think it is good to know about how to secure your machine, shoudl some of these vendors start 'closing up ' the machines and set up some kind of GUIs to make it easy to open these services when people want. Here is what I propose to the vendors. Stop shipping the machines with inetd, or at least give people the option at install to install inetd. (some do some don't). Offere an alternative like the author of one of the articles I read earlier this week did tcp that is more configurable than inetd. Ship the distros with ssh and scp and have these as the default installs rather than telnet and ftp. (This goes for windows also as there is a new windows bus in telnet). WE need to get on the software makers to make it there priorities to make the distributions securer. THis goes for ALL software makers including M$, Linux distros, and Mac etc.
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The problem arises when someone acts on out against society in a hurtful maner. Hacking systems is just as destructive as breaking into a bank or house. How would it feel if someone broke into your home. I'll tell you. I no longer felt safe in my old place. There is emotional damage. When someone hacks a computer system, the punishment shoudl probably be the same as breaking an entering. If they takes something the punishement shoudl prbably be theft.
Being different does not give you the right to harm others, and that is what you do when you hack systems. That was my point. You don't just hurt the corporation, you hurt everyone that uses that computer system. Hackers or maybe I should say "Crackers" which is the proper term should be punished.
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In this particular case it hurts all the users of the system that was hacked and had there passwords stolen. It also hurts the people running the system. No not just the admins the whole organization is affected. Why? The admins are affected, cause they were not on top of there job, securing the system and maintenance and all that stuff (at least that is how some will percieve it). The owner looses his credibility to run a secure operation. Uses loose there passwords and possibly the system. Well we know it is not necessarily the admins fault. There is no perfectly secure system. Alsost all systems can or do get hacked weather by DDOS or what not somebody with nothing else to do trys to screw up someone else's life, cause they can and they are pissed off at the world for no real reason.
Someone recently told me that there will always be security breaches in software cause software today has so many lines of code. THere will always be hackers too.
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Corel added crap into KDE that added problems to people who tried to compile other programs against it, atleast that is what out on slashdot a while ago, which probably pissed some people off. Corel seems to have gone down the tubes in all its business though that is another story.
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I read a review on OS X and it is supposed to be much like NeXT. Coolness if this is true, cause I like the NeXT feel.
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It does say 'implementation' which means that they are going to make it available for Windows OS.
I am not that familiar with windows tcp, but my guess is that it does not currently support IPv6. This could mean that they are now going to. The problem I see is that they could potentially do the same thing to it that they did to kerbos.
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That URL above is where slashdot posted that Tivo okayed hacking of there systems. We already new that. So they are tracking what you view. Slashdot is tracking all your comments, as well as your preferences. I mean don't you think that slashdot knows more about you then Tivo does? Does anyone else wonder if slashdot is targeting ads at them?
On a less parynoid note. This is not really anything new. Web site are doing this all over the place. Any data that they can get about you to figure out what you may or may not buy is used. Doubleclick does this just read there privacy statement. What is Tivo's privacy statement? Do they even have one? Maybe that is the question that you should be asking your self.
Personally, I think it would be better to just put a UPS on your VCR and go about things that way. Then you don't have these concerns, you don't get programs that you probably don't want. And guess what, it works!
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They said that the cell phones do heat the brain, but that thinking and mind exercises would do this more intensly. I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that they also mention that when these devices are on they respondants answered 'faster'. It would make sense. If your brain is already warm then it would not have to warm up to the exercise.
Personally I think that if you have a cell phone glued to your head all the time this constant heating is going to have some effect on the brain. Probably negitive. Think about it logically , long term exposure to the sun can cause cancer if you are out tanning (skin cancer). However short term exposures don't. If you are out side each day and walk around you probably wont get skin cancer, it is only when you are in the sun for long terms. Maybe the heating of the brain by the cell phone is the same thing. Maybe what they need are long studies of several years.
I have a cell, but I uise it maybe once a week, or less. It is more of an emergency thing in case I am stranded somewhere or attacked or something. But I imagine that those people that drive , walk and use cells virtually 24/7 are at some sort of risk to brain cancer. the problem is that it would take years to prove and none of these studies has been done for more than 5 years. ;-)
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Isn't that a monopolistic tactic? Considering a I work for a portol, I think it sucks. It does not lend to fair playing. People use what is convienent. If this new portol is more convienint than others it could poise itself to being the dominant player in the portol world. This is unfair, IMHO. ;-)
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This was in kernel traffic either last week or the week before. I think that it was not added cause it was either alot of changes or it was messy code. I think also that Linus has his wants and not wants in the kernel.
I wonder if this is the start of the forking of Linux that so many have said woudl happen. May the best kernle win.
I also wonder if they are releasing there changes to the kernle as Open Source under the GPL? ;-)
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DFSG? What does that stand for? What was the conflict between KDE and QT? ;-)
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We have another program that is incomplete. Only part of the functionality was completed. Shall I go on?
Get a support contract if you are going to outsource.
Make sure that you have complete documentation of what was done.
Make sure you have some techies to work with the group that you are outsourcing so that you have some knowledge in the company.
Of course the big thing depends on what you are outsourcing too. If you are outsourcing ads, then believe it or not the industry standard is doubleclick. I'd use someone else if it were up to me though. If it is a program or a system and company X or company Y will get the job done, do make sure you have documentation and some kind of support deal. This is in case things go wrong.
The biggest problem with outsourcing is that they never know how you are going to use the product. Really use the product. Yes you go over all the details with them. You scope out the project. But there are ALWAYS issues that fall between the cracks and they popup up after the outsource group is gone. ;-)
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They were able to get QT under the GPL. So why not. Can someone elplain what hte problem with the QPL was that made this whole issue? Other than it was not the GPL. Does this mean that a MPL version of mozilla will not be able to be included with debian? Good thing they are dual licensing it. I am amazed at how many companies are now bowing to the GPL and Linux. Don't get me wrong I love Linux and think it is great, but I am kind of suprised. ;-)
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I'm guessing you are being sarcastic to the max. I like it. It sounds like you are really playing win2k to be superior, but then when you think about it you sound more like a true Linux fan. I like the reboot part. Yeah rebooting machines make a system real stable (LOL). Just think about what it does to your uptimes too. Who needs to be up 24x7 these days too. ;-)
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Bochs is older than 1998, as is dosemu. If you look at the page it says paten pending since 1998. IF this is a true page, they could get a paten unless those backing Bochs an ddosemu get in touch with the USPTO. Someone needs to verify that this is a true filing. If so then someone needs to contact the USPTO. ;-)
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I write open source programs. If someone wants a feature I'll try to add it, if they send me code, that is even better, and I'll integrate it so that it works well with my other code. I have borrowed code from other pages, but I LEARNED JavaScript. The point is that when dealing with Web Pages if it is just HTML go ahead and take the HTML, but if it is JavSCript or Java or whatever it may not be as easy as plug in and use. Why should I modify my source code for him to use? I told him he could use it but he needed to figure out how to do so.
So what is a programmer that both steals code and writes his onw?
"Why *should* the guy admiring your site bother to learn how to create the effect from scratch?"
I never said he had to create the effect from scratch. I said he needed to learn JavaScript so that he could figure out how to integrate it into his page. If I was using a perl script to generate my page, should I be the one to modify that perl script so that you can use it on your page? I think not. That is what was happening here. In the case of the page in question. The guy took the code an made it his 'own'. He did not say hey linux.com how did you do this I want ot copy it. He took it and put in his stuff. Stealing just the layout. Think about it. ;-)
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I am all for open source, but just because someone puts up a web page does that count as open source? ;-)
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I think he could possibly get into trouble if he has images on his web site that area copied and he does not have permission. I think I have heard of that happening before. Are the images free?
Also there was a case of a company sewing another company cause the first company did work on a web site and the second company fied the first and then brought in someone else and the new someone continued the work on the web site, and the first company threatened to sew. I amm not sure where that went.
The question is how does Linux.com feel about this. They are owned by va linux, I believe and are supposed to be advocaters of open source as I understand. If so then they may not care. ;-)
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All I saw were broken image links. That is really nice to look at. I know I know.. troll, moderate -1, blah blah. But you'd think that slashdto would check to make sure these images would show up. ;-)
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