"We program for the sheer joy and fun that comes out of putting out such an awesome product. "
That is why I program for open source. I just choose to use C / Gtk+ and GNOME libs. Granted that some may argue that C++ is better than C because of this or that reason. But you know what! I like C. I guess this may be only cause I have not done much C++. But that is not even the issue. The GNOME foundation may actually help KDE in the long run. With all these corporate backers, there will be more people in the pot. This could lead to splintering of GNOME. Someone may decide that sawmill is not what they are 'going' for and create a new window manager. While this is fine. We all know what happened when corporations first got there hands on UNIX. How many version were released? How many version of UNIX do we have today, including Linux and BSD? LOTS Look what Corel did to KDE when they included it in there distro. Rumor has it that they modified some of the code so bad that other KDE apps wouldn't compile with it. While I am not sure that is true or not, I can see it. So maybe what could happen is that all these corporations will disagree adn add there own mods in and suddenly that little CVS tree has all sorts of branckes and becomes a big monsterous bush. Okay this is negitive, but someone has to think about these possibilities. The result could be a decision board on GNOME that could hurt GNOME. SO how does htis help KDE? KDE could end up becoming hte best window manager / desktop around and everyone could stop using GNOME and start using KDE.
First, the decision to use GNOME on Sun and HP desktops doesn't change much in itself. Sun may be well known for its servers, but it doesn't seem to be doing that great as a desktop.
This statement is also true. Sun is for servers as Microsoft is to desktops. In reality you wouldn't use Microsoft as a web server on a really busy web site. Hell M$ doesn't use it on there own web sites. They still use BSD and Solaris on there Hotmail system. So why would you use Solaris on your desktop at home?
Personally I think this is just stirring up all that GNOME is better than KDE or KDE is better than GNOME stuff that really is a matter of opinion and not true. They are both AWESOME projects that depend on a persons personal preferences as to what they like.
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"Slashdot probably rejected it because it was wrong." NO it was not wrong. It was a news article. Slashdot rejected it because slashdot sucks these days and rejects everything, that they do not agree with. It is no longer news for nerds but selective news that was selected by a selected few. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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There was a story that Palm was going to come out with a device using Sony technology. I submitted to suck dot and they rejected it. Then viola. Someone else submits a similar story.
Mine was titled "Palm to adopt alternative expansion slot technolog (articles,news)" and was submitted on 2000-06-27 16:01:10.
Boy slashdot you are really sucking butt these days. You used to have news artilces and updates several times a day, now it seems that news trickles. And this moderation crap you have implemeted really suck also. Stuff gets moderated based on someone elses opinion, that may not agree with everyones. There are some very good stories and posts that I am sure are being moderated down, because someone does not agree with them.
That being said. I imagine by the end of this year to middle of next year that Palm , Sony and Handspring as well as IBM (yes IBM does palm devices too) and a slew of other companies will all be selling palms with these ports and IR and color, as well as wireless. They will be as 'standardized' as wireless phones are. They will run a mirid of OS from Win CE, Linux, to Palm OS and lord knows what else. Is this good. Yes it offers people choices. However it makes for writing applications a platform thing afain. Do I write for Palm, Wince or who.
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It has forced me to watch my roommate reboot his Win95 machine every 20 minutes .
On a more serious note. I think it has to an extent. The price for windows has not gone down instead it has gone up, although they say that the ME edition will be $59 or so. The problem is that Windows is making the companies like Dell and Gateway, and all the thousand other little companies that install windows pay lots for the software. This causes the price in computers to go up. A 500 dollar computer could sell for probably 100 less if it was not for the cost of windows. Sure you can say that you could install Linux, but Linux has some hardware issues that makes this not as easy as you think.
I cannot count the hours of lost work productivity that resulted from rebooting my machine. In 1997 I was down for a WEEK cause my NT workstation (at work) gave me the BSOD. This was when it first was discovered and noone knew what to do, and M$ did not have a cure.
Although currently M$ is probably the best software on the market, as far as applications, ease of use, etc. I think that mere fact that they released Windows 95 which noone can deny was buggier than hell, they should be held accountable for. I also think that NT 4 is buggier than hell and if it were not for sp 5 or 6 this machine I am useing would be just as worthless. Granted M$ has come a long way and there Win 2000 product is probably a good product, but I no longer trust them. Maybe there penality should be to give free upgrades to 2000 to ANYONE that is still using Window 95, and to sell the upgrades for 98 and NT 4.0 for less than $50. This would allow them to stay together, still make money (not that Billy boy needs it) and make most consumers happier, IMHO! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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It had a relation database. DB2 Oracle, and I think maybe sybase. I know that it had db2 at least. It had a front end.
name: Advantage Financial (I think)
company: not sure if I CAN say
release date: the initial non x version was pre 92, and it micht have been pre 90. They moved to neuron data to build a UI for it. neuron data is(was) a C API that if you program to it you can compile on Mac, X or Windows.
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It woudl be nice to see what the claims of his applications are. I'd imagine that they'd have to be very specific. Computer to computer transactions have been around for well, a while not I imagine, and there cannot be that much diference between transactions between the US and another country as opposed to between US and US or maybe lets say France and Germany. Also it woudl be good to know when he applied for this patent to know when we need prior art to make this obsolete. I imagine that companies like M$, IBM, and Oracle will chanllenge this, as well as many others. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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This is very bad cause I needed this entry. I was quickly able to trouble shoot this with g_print statements. Now I dont destroy the entry, as it is only a pointer, and when it goes out of scope I can forget about it. It fixed the problem, for now. I will have to do some memory stress tests on the app once it is finished, to make sure that memory is not 'leaking'. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I just use languages like perl / tcl and Java mostly so I don't worry about these things. I do do some C, but more properly you should have said I am not a hard core "C" code. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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It would be possible to write your program with a stylus and touchpad. It would need to be able to recgonize your hadnwriting too. I am wondering why systems like these are not making there way to the pc. I mean if you can do it on a palm, you can do it on a pc as well. This would make more sense if you ask me. It would not have to deal with all the symbols differently it would be another character. You can usually write pretty fast and once you get used to it this may work. You may even be able to get rid of the keyboard as well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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If a function returns a char* the author asks who is supposed to free it when it is done. Uhh if you are done with it, then just do a
if (char != NULL) {
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I think that should do it. He makes it sound like C is sooo bad. If C++ was so great why is just about every version of UNIX written in C? Obvoiusly if you have C programmer s to write the OS it should not be difficult to find C programmers to work on GNOME either. C++ is not that great, it has its problems too. This author is just bias and this article is really just here to get the KDE vs GNOME war going. Gee maybe KDE developers should help write the C++ interface to gtk+ and then port KDE to that.
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But QT has a foundation, too, and it has pledged to keep QT free for noncommercial use.
IBM and all the other big boys probably want GNOME for Commercial use. Thus they would probably have to pay to QT or Trolltech.
Why pay for milk when you can get the cow for free? GNOME is just that the cow, and you get the whole thing free. NO annoying popup ads no shareware reminders free. No license fee, etc. And they have the source to GNOME, Gtk+ and all the apps as well so they can tweak them as they need. They can't do that with KDE and QT. KDE yes QT NO.
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I think he needs to clarify or someone needs to clarify an OS vs an OS distribution. UNIX is still an OS. It just has more applicatinos now. X is not a standard part of the UNIX OS. Yes it is 'distributed' with it, but it is not necessary to run X in order to run UNIX.
Lets take servers. If I wanted a simple webserver that does cgi and maybe javaservelets, I can do this with a UNIX OS like Sun or AIX and then install a webserver and its componenets. There is no GUI there as none is needed, once it is installed.
I think he is pitching this so as to sell up there OS X. I think OS X is a great idea. I mentioned doing that over 2 years ago here on slashdot. (Combining the stability of UNIX with the ease of use of Mac). I was then told that had been done look at the Next OS. While Next was to expensive, as well it is not as easy as a Mac.
If Mac release a computer for under 1000 next year with OS X I may get one to play with. IF they release Mac OS X on a computer that retails for less than 500 I will get one. But lets see how it performs. Anything has got to be better than windows 95. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Congfusing message from SUN. The weird thing is that if you install Star Office it asks to install into KDE NOT GNOME. Now when I click on all my pictures in KFM they get opened in Start Office. What KDE needs is a real easy to use GUI to change program associations. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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It is probably because of the QT license. gtk is free, open etc, while QT is not. I wonder if he
realizes that when corporations make decisions these kinds of things come into play. It is not a
matter of which one is better or whatever it is what is more economical. GNOME is totally free
from the ground up. KDE has license issues and as a corporation they have to be careful about these
things. Sure you can download KDE and QT for free, but it is not GPL. Maybe Sun is finally getting
the clue about GPL. They are releasing there Star Office under GPL or so they say, maybe they
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Okay before I get flamed, I'll start right off with the fact that they said you will need 64Meg of RAM to run OS X (last I heard). If that is the case then as a server NO. As a desktop workstation YES. Servers need light compact OSes so that the applications can have most ofthe resources and the system should use little depending on the app. System calls can be expensive on the resource end.
If OS X Server is what you are talking about and this is just another UNIX type OS without the GUI, then maybe. Lets see the benchmarks. Fact is that Solaris is probably the best thing for a web server around these days. FreeBSD on intel or Linux also works. So why not another BSDish UNIX like OS X.
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Since most people today are buying distributions, I want to know why more distros are not setting these up already. It was not till Redhat 6.2 that it included a way to turn on and off the ipchains through linuxconf. I used gfcc to set up my packet filtering firewall. gfcc also comes with a few scripts for workstations, and I was able to modify one of them to fit my needs. Now I have a packet filtering firewall whenever my computer is up and running.
The second thing I have done is to get my system port scanned by an outside source. So far I have had no problems. I too use GNOME and have other services that are running, but only my web server is open to the outside and there are not forms with CGI that a user can access and slosh around with. I have a little php but that is it, nothing fancy.
I am not sure that everyone understands how the ports work, but they are only a problem if they are not behind the firewall or if someone gets behind your firewall. If you have no untrusted users on your machine ipchins shoudl be fine. IF you are worried that that is not enough try setting up a proxy firewall in conjunction with ipchains. You can do it on your host machine and contrary to some you will be fine.
Good luck. I hope that road runner is a good isp. AT&T cable went out for a day and a half this past week for me and I cannot imagine what I'd do if I had them as my ISP as well and not just mycable provider.
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COM, COM+: COM was probably the last thing that Microsoft did that was inovative. (Assuming that they did not get the idea from someone else). COM+ is more of a newer version of COM as was DCOM and all the other crap..net soap?? what? In reality there have been no inovations since the 80's in the desktop arena. Does your desktop still have icons? Yes it has since Mac release its first Mac and since Win3.1. We still use the mouse.
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Well this may be obvious, but when something is done as open Source adn it is free, the person or persons doing it are usually doing this because they want to a dn the like what they do. Also they do it cause they find it useful to themselves. I wrote an open source text editor and I did it cause I needed one and I open sourced it cause I wanted to share it. Because it is open source many people like it and I have gotton feedback (LOTS) and also some additions to the code which I integrated in a manner not to break anything and make them and I both happy.
When companies write code they want to make a profit from it and that is there main concern. Don't be fooled by ANY company that sells software. They are doing it for the money. Yes some may be a little more moral than others but thay ALL are just out to make money! Many people who work at these companies do so cause they like what they do. Now there is nothing wrong with makeing money from software, but when a company screws its users just to make a buck it is immoral.
What really bothers me is that there has been no real inovation in the software industry in 10 years. Neither proprietary nor open source. We still use the same tech we did 10 years ago it is just with more features and faster hardware. I want speach input that works! I want a system that does not crash (winblows and mac) or 'panic' *nix!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I have recently started using gtk+ and the API is similar IN CONCEPT to that of Java, C++ and C#. At least to me it is. Everything in gtk+ is also an obect, at least all the widgets, and believe it or not they have some inheritance. I.E. Composite widgets inherent from there ancestors. It is really quite interesting to see an object oriented C again. Gtk is simeilar to neuron data, which once upon a time used an object C approach. C# may be what Java should have been, but that can only happen if it is cross platform. I noticed that they submitted it to ECMA, but they also did that with XML, HTML4.0 and so many other standards that they eventually toss aside. What will be the life of C# before they make M$ specific extensions that noone else can implement. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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It seems that they have gotton ride of bash 1.0 finally. 6.2 has this for install or something, but 7.0 beta does not. It also looks like they have some hybred XFree 3.3.6 -4.0 or something as there are rpms of both. They are still running apache 1.3 instead of 2.0 isn't apache2.0 out? They are running gimp 1.1.24 which I thought was beta. They do have gcc 2.96 and thins includes a java compiler for those of you who want to do java, hmmm. Gnome 1.2 which is cool. gtk 1.2.8 and 1.3. kde 1.91 hmm isn't this also beta? kernel 2.2.16.. hmm. Netscape 4.74 hmm what's that about. lots of updated libs. My Q is when will they update Tcl/Tk.. oh they have:-) 8.3.1. Cool they are including sane in there distro rather than the power tools.. sweet. New sawfish.. php 4.0.1. Hmm maybe it's time to get the srpms and recompile some of this on 6.2 instead of upgrading the whole system... Personally I wish they ship the stable stuff and then as an option on the install they could add the beta stuff like gimp 1.1.24. I don't think that everyone wants to be beta testers, they got enough of that with window 95. Yes some people do like being cuttinog edge, but the average users wants a system that works. Maybe this is an attempt at boosting there support. (ouch did I say that:-O)
If all your hardware is detected why do you need to rebuild your kernel? Rebuilding a kernel on modern hardware should only be required if you add hardware that the kernel does not know about. Personally I think that all drivers shoudl be built as modules and then noone neds to build a new kernel, unless they upgrade.
He is forgetting something here. AOL is still #1 in the internet. Currently they ship there software with IE and embed it in there system. If they wait another year to ship a version of Netscape with AOL it wont hurt them. They can keep using IE for a while. When they do ship Netscape (assuming they do) there will probably still be enough users on AOL to make Netscape #1 again if it is any good. In another year it may be. Something that suck is forgetting is that Open Source does not have deadlines. Look at Gimp, KDE, GNOME, Linux etc. Windows was big in 96, 97, 98 and still is, but now Linux is gaing share. And people see some advantages in Linux and potential in it, so they port there products to it. When the time is right Netscape can release there new browser and it may be killer. From the features that they are putting in it and what I have tried I am looking forward to the release. I think in this day and age it is difficult to say just how anything in the internet is going to turn out. People use what is better. Currently it is IE, but if something better comes a long they will use that instead. Time will tell, not suck.
THe best way to prevent this is to have skilled people. The last company I worked for we had a DBA who was also our sys admin. First let me say that with AIX we rarely had problems that were the OS'es fault. We used Oracle and most of the problems we encountered with Oracle dealt with our database running out of space and having to allocate more or our application looping and filling certain log files. The logs filled up with transaction failed and when our sys admin looked at it he knew which log files to look at. Let me tell you something about your dba and sys admins, they also need to know the application that you are using to be effective too. Our did. He knew how to use our application he knew the server side of the application and knew the database and was familiar with what most of the tables were for. He also knew AIX pretty well. He handled only a few machines 2 or 3, but was ours mainly. This was good for us. I learned alot from him, and would love to have more people like that when building an application.
In a sentance, nothing beats having skilled employees that know there stuff!
Ands it really does not matter what OS/ DB/ EJB's you use, it matters more how well the people that you are getting to do the job, know what they are doing.
As I understoiod the article from reading it in my issue of IEEE, they were refering to using the magnetic fields to move electrons.
Electrodynamic tethers work by virtue of the force a magnetic field exerts on a current-carrying wire.
I believe that they would drop the line down towards earth and then as the earth spun it would create the necessary megnetic field to act like a generator in space. I think this is what they were planning. Then they mentioned something about moving particles with this field to move the object (satelite).
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"Slashdot probably rejected it because it was wrong." NO it was not wrong. It was a news article. Slashdot rejected it because slashdot sucks these days and rejects everything, that they do not agree with. It is no longer news for nerds but selective news that was selected by a selected few. ;-)
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Mine was titled "Palm to adopt alternative expansion slot technolog (articles,news)" and was submitted on 2000-06-27 16:01:10.
Boy slashdot you are really sucking butt these days. You used to have news artilces and updates several times a day, now it seems that news trickles. And this moderation crap you have implemeted really suck also. Stuff gets moderated based on someone elses opinion, that may not agree with everyones. There are some very good stories and posts that I am sure are being moderated down, because someone does not agree with them.
That being said. I imagine by the end of this year to middle of next year that Palm , Sony and Handspring as well as IBM (yes IBM does palm devices too) and a slew of other companies will all be selling palms with these ports and IR and color, as well as wireless. They will be as 'standardized' as wireless phones are. They will run a mirid of OS from Win CE, Linux, to Palm OS and lord knows what else. Is this good. Yes it offers people choices. However it makes for writing applications a platform thing afain. Do I write for Palm, Wince or who.
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On a more serious note. I think it has to an extent. The price for windows has not gone down instead it has gone up, although they say that the ME edition will be $59 or so. The problem is that Windows is making the companies like Dell and Gateway, and all the thousand other little companies that install windows pay lots for the software. This causes the price in computers to go up. A 500 dollar computer could sell for probably 100 less if it was not for the cost of windows. Sure you can say that you could install Linux, but Linux has some hardware issues that makes this not as easy as you think.
I cannot count the hours of lost work productivity that resulted from rebooting my machine. In 1997 I was down for a WEEK cause my NT workstation (at work) gave me the BSOD. This was when it first was discovered and noone knew what to do, and M$ did not have a cure.
Although currently M$ is probably the best software on the market, as far as applications, ease of use, etc. I think that mere fact that they released Windows 95 which noone can deny was buggier than hell, they should be held accountable for. I also think that NT 4 is buggier than hell and if it were not for sp 5 or 6 this machine I am useing would be just as worthless. Granted M$ has come a long way and there Win 2000 product is probably a good product, but I no longer trust them. Maybe there penality should be to give free upgrades to 2000 to ANYONE that is still using Window 95, and to sell the upgrades for 98 and NT 4.0 for less than $50. This would allow them to stay together, still make money (not that Billy boy needs it) and make most consumers happier, IMHO! ;-)
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name: Advantage Financial (I think)
company: not sure if I CAN say
release date: the initial non x version was pre 92, and it micht have been pre 90. They moved to neuron data to build a UI for it. neuron data is(was) a C API that if you program to it you can compile on Mac, X or Windows.
I am not sure how much is intellectual property here though. ;-)
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It woudl be nice to see what the claims of his applications are. I'd imagine that they'd have to be very specific. Computer to computer transactions have been around for well, a while not I imagine, and there cannot be that much diference between transactions between the US and another country as opposed to between US and US or maybe lets say France and Germany. Also it woudl be good to know when he applied for this patent to know when we need prior art to make this obsolete. I imagine that companies like M$, IBM, and Oracle will chanllenge this, as well as many others. ;-)
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I know, I found this out when I did the following:
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entry = GTK_DIALOG(mydialog)->entry;
if (entry != NULL) {gtk_wdiget_destroy(entry);}
This is very bad cause I needed this entry. I was quickly able to trouble shoot this with g_print statements. Now I dont destroy the entry, as it is only a pointer, and when it goes out of scope I can forget about it. It fixed the problem, for now. I will have to do some memory stress tests on the app once it is finished, to make sure that memory is not 'leaking'.
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I just use languages like perl / tcl and Java mostly so I don't worry about these things. I do do some C, but more properly you should have said I am not a hard core "C" code. ;-)
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It would be possible to write your program with a stylus and touchpad. It would need to be able to recgonize your hadnwriting too. I am wondering why systems like these are not making there way to the pc. I mean if you can do it on a palm, you can do it on a pc as well. This would make more sense if you ask me. It would not have to deal with all the symbols differently it would be another character. You can usually write pretty fast and once you get used to it this may work. You may even be able to get rid of the keyboard as well. ;-)
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I think that should do it. He makes it sound like C is sooo bad. If C++ was so great why is just about every version of UNIX written in C? Obvoiusly if you have C programmer s to write the OS it should not be difficult to find C programmers to work on GNOME either. C++ is not that great, it has its problems too. This author is just bias and this article is really just here to get the KDE vs GNOME war going. Gee maybe KDE developers should help write the C++ interface to gtk+ and then port KDE to that.
On another note has anyone tried gtkmm?? ;-)
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IBM and all the other big boys probably want GNOME for Commercial use. Thus they would probably have to pay to QT or Trolltech.
Why pay for milk when you can get the cow for free? GNOME is just that the cow, and you get the whole thing free. NO annoying popup ads no shareware reminders free. No license fee, etc. And they have the source to GNOME, Gtk+ and all the apps as well so they can tweak them as they need. They can't do that with KDE and QT. KDE yes QT NO. KDE is the milk that companies like IBM and et al pay for. Not KDE in and of itself, but QT. Think about it. ;-)
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Lets take servers. If I wanted a simple webserver that does cgi and maybe javaservelets, I can do this with a UNIX OS like Sun or AIX and then install a webserver and its componenets. There is no GUI there as none is needed, once it is installed.
I think he is pitching this so as to sell up there OS X. I think OS X is a great idea. I mentioned doing that over 2 years ago here on slashdot. (Combining the stability of UNIX with the ease of use of Mac). I was then told that had been done look at the Next OS. While Next was to expensive, as well it is not as easy as a Mac.
If Mac release a computer for under 1000 next year with OS X I may get one to play with. IF they release Mac OS X on a computer that retails for less than 500 I will get one. But lets see how it performs. Anything has got to be better than windows 95. ;-)
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Congfusing message from SUN. The weird thing is that if you install Star Office it asks to install into KDE NOT GNOME. Now when I click on all my pictures in KFM they get opened in Start Office. What KDE needs is a real easy to use GUI to change program associations. ;-)
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It is probably because of the QT license. gtk is free, open etc, while QT is not. I wonder if he realizes that when corporations make decisions these kinds of things come into play. It is not a matter of which one is better or whatever it is what is more economical. GNOME is totally free from the ground up. KDE has license issues and as a corporation they have to be careful about these things. Sure you can download KDE and QT for free, but it is not GPL. Maybe Sun is finally getting the clue about GPL. They are releasing there Star Office under GPL or so they say, maybe they want to use this and GNOME and create a totally free office suite to compete with Windows, and give people No reason whatso ever to use Windows. ;-)
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If OS X Server is what you are talking about and this is just another UNIX type OS without the GUI, then maybe. Lets see the benchmarks. Fact is that Solaris is probably the best thing for a web server around these days. FreeBSD on intel or Linux also works. So why not another BSDish UNIX like OS X.
I think it is great that they are putting UNIX with Macish interface. It will make a stable and easy to use desktop workstation. Here is the thing about Mac. Tehy are and never were ery big on the networking world and it will take them time to catch up. ;-)
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Who are they? ;-)
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I don't want a lot, I just want it all
Flame away, I have a hose!
The second thing I have done is to get my system port scanned by an outside source. So far I have had no problems. I too use GNOME and have other services that are running, but only my web server is open to the outside and there are not forms with CGI that a user can access and slosh around with. I have a little php but that is it, nothing fancy.
I am not sure that everyone understands how the ports work, but they are only a problem if they are not behind the firewall or if someone gets behind your firewall. If you have no untrusted users on your machine ipchins shoudl be fine. IF you are worried that that is not enough try setting up a proxy firewall in conjunction with ipchains. You can do it on your host machine and contrary to some you will be fine.
Good luck. I hope that road runner is a good isp. AT&T cable went out for a day and a half this past week for me and I cannot imagine what I'd do if I had them as my ISP as well and not just mycable provider.
Don't put your egs in one basket, having cable, phone, and ISP may not be such a good thing. If one goes out you loose may service to all. ;-)
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I have been using computers since the late 70's and while there may have been 'code' changes it is still the same. Show me something that is truely new!!!!!!! ;-)
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When companies write code they want to make a profit from it and that is there main concern. Don't be fooled by ANY company that sells software. They are doing it for the money. Yes some may be a little more moral than others but thay ALL are just out to make money! Many people who work at these companies do so cause they like what they do. Now there is nothing wrong with makeing money from software, but when a company screws its users just to make a buck it is immoral.
What really bothers me is that there has been no real inovation in the software industry in 10 years. Neither proprietary nor open source. We still use the same tech we did 10 years ago it is just with more features and faster hardware. I want speach input that works! I want a system that does not crash (winblows and mac) or 'panic' *nix!! ;-)
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I have recently started using gtk+ and the API is similar IN CONCEPT to that of Java, C++ and C#. At least to me it is. Everything in gtk+ is also an obect, at least all the widgets, and believe it or not they have some inheritance. I.E. Composite widgets inherent from there ancestors. It is really quite interesting to see an object oriented C again. Gtk is simeilar to neuron data, which once upon a time used an object C approach. C# may be what Java should have been, but that can only happen if it is cross platform. I noticed that they submitted it to ECMA, but they also did that with XML, HTML4.0 and so many other standards that they eventually toss aside. What will be the life of C# before they make M$ specific extensions that noone else can implement. ;-)
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In a sentance, nothing beats having skilled employees that know there stuff!
Ands it really does not matter what OS/ DB/ EJB's you use, it matters more how well the people that you are getting to do the job, know what they are doing.
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