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NYPD Is Beta-Testing Google Glass
Presto Vivace writes "The New York City Police Department is trying to determine how useful Google Glass would be for law enforcement. From the article: 'The New York City Police Department's massive and controversial intelligence and analytics unit is evaluating whether Google Glass is a decent fit for investigating terrorists and helping cops lock up bad guys, VentureBeat has learned. The department recently received several pairs of the modernist-looking specs to test out. "We signed up, got a few pairs of the Google glasses, and we're trying them out, seeing if they have any value in investigations, mostly for patrol purposes," a ranking New York City law enforcement official told VentureBeat.'"
Buck the Feta's...
cuss!
Does NYPD's Google Glass clone have an app for reporting idiot marketers who don't listen to their users? Something like
--- You are being assaulted by Idiot Managers ---
You can:
[ ] File a report with the NYPD
[ ] Upmod a post about how crappy their customer service is.
[ ] Sell off stock you own of theirs
[ ] Close your account
[ ] Other (Place eyeball here for more options)
#fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
I wonder how bad Beta slashdot looks on Google Glass?
,,,Slashdot's Beta?
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
It'll be interesting to see if the FTB postings outnumber Microsoft sockpuppet's Scroogling FUD posts.
Game ON!
Just as long as they dont wear it while driving their squad cars, or they'll forever be booking themselves.
And I could probably convince an officer how utterly indispensable google glasses would be to them.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure the methods/uses would be legal.
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I think that we should all just migrate to Usenet, en masse. It is the only medium left on the Internet that is distributed, uncensorable, JavaScript and banner ad free, and which allows each user to shit-can crappy posters / contributors. Think of it, with the critical mass of Slashdot users migrating away from this mess, we can finally rejuvenate Usenet and restore it to its previous position as the pre-eminent Internet discussion medium.
I know many of us using residential broadband saw our ISPs droop Usenet support, but there are still alternatives. Eternal September is a free Usenet provider, with the caveat that they don't allow binaries to be posted nor do they carry binary groups. Giganews is still in operation, and perhaps one or more of us Slashdot refugees will start our own infrastructure to compliment these resources.
Think of it this way - if we all go to Reddit or Digg or one of the alternate Slashdot replacements being bandied about during this crisis, this is just a temporary fix and no guarantee that this kind of shit won't happen again.
Help me rejuvenate NNTP and Usenet, after all it is the only realistic long-term solution.
I think we've all read the "Slashdot Tries Something New; Audience Responds!" submission from Timothy at this point.
I was horrified to read this particular sentence within it:
Most importantly, we want you to know that Classic Slashdot isn't going away until we're confident that the new site is ready.
That confirms that Slashdot Classic will in fact be gone at some point. That, of course, also means that it will most likely be replaced with the shitty beta site.
I had some hope this morning that the complete hatred shown by so many users here would be taken seriously. Clearly, that is not the case. The very valid complaints have been totally ignored.
The beta site cannot be salvaged. It is so inherently broken that there's no possible way it could ever be ready to replace the Slashdot Classic site, regardless of how much work they put into it.
I think we should mark today, February 6, 2014, as the day that Slashdot died. This confirmation from Timothy basically guarantees that many of us will be driven away against our will, all due to this shitty, shitty beta site going live. The community just won't survive that, I'm afraid to say.
to tell the officer exactly how far to shove the toilet plunger up the suspects ass during an interrogation? Point out the locations of local mosques for illegal surveillance? Figure out which community to target the illegal stop and frisk campaign on next?
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Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.
On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.
Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system. If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this in a new tab. After seeing that, click here to return to classic Slashdot.
We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott
Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories
Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention. Links of note:
Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415
Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441
Alternative Slashdot: altslashdot.org
IRC Discussion: slashnet.org #slashdot
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Who, in their right mind, would want to destroy the cross-pollination of innovation within the global technology industry?
Dice, do you have the slightest inkling of what you are about to destroy?
> I wonder how bad Beta slashdot looks on Google Glass?
Have you heard the old joke that ends in the phrase, "Coffee break is over; back on your heads."?
netcraft confirms it, the beta is ass
We have always been at war with your beta.
I've been reading /. since '98, without the classic UI as an option you have lost me as a user. I will participate in the upcoming boycott.
You do something wrong? Cop has video of it.
Cop does something wrong? "Well, I was chasing the suspect and my Google Glass fell off, so I don't have footage of the event. I have NO idea how he fell down and broke both arms, both legs (multiple fractures each), and caved his own skull in so he can't testify...err...caved his own skull in..."
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
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Well one problem is that about 1/4 is covered by an empty white column.
I read this and started to tear up... http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4761733&cid=46179141
OK Beta Sucks... Where will we go?
This is Slashdot Damn it!!! We are not a web site, we are a community that thrives off of the unique moderation system put in place years ago.
I know for years, I have asked people who I suspected.. " Do you read Slashdot?" And if they said regularyly, I could be assured of thier being informed on
"News for NERDs & STUFF THAT MATTERS"
I learned about GOOGLE on SLASHDOT back in ... 199...8?
As a group we can collectively move. The slashdot code was published years ago.
What is the new URL?
I am not a coder but will be more than willing to help the group move forward away from this BS.
Do we start a kick starter for hosting funds?
Who will moderate submissions?
Who will administer the site?
I can't do everything to make this happen, but I will be more then willing to contribute as much as I can.
If wikipedia can exist for all these years as a non-profit then I am sure the Slashdot community can figure out how to exist free from profit motives that make things suck.
BTY - I never read slashdot on a mobile device, because it sucks! Where was the protest then?
alt.slashdot.refugees?
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
I'm picturing the NYPD implementation of Google Glass to be extremely buggy. It will have a tendency to shut off right before almost every arrest, and break much more frequently too. I'm not sure if things have improved under the new mayor or not. I'm a skeptic, and corrupt agencies tend to remain corrupt until somehow the house gets cleaned.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Several police forces have been hammering people who record police with wiretapping charges. Eventually wearable computers with 3/4G will be commonplace. I am sure that wearable video will help knock down frivolous complaints against police officers for misconduct and will sometimes magically be corrupted when recordings might prove wrongdoing.
However, eventually there will be so many people wearing so many video cameras it'll be impossible for bad apples to say all of the independently recorded videos magically were deleted or got corrupted on the floppy disc. And there will be so many citizens wearing cameras that there will be too many SD cards to confiscate.
A large enough difference in degree becomes a difference in kind. I think digital video will have as large an impact on policing as the telephone and radio. If you've been following, there was a constable in the UK who basically can be seen lying on camera about smelling alcohol on a protester's breath. (Google it, it's all over LiveLeak.) Guys like this will -- one hopes -- get cashiered. Baddies who hope to win the lawsuit lottery by inventing abuse should also expect to have a hard time.
Of course, police have become used to yelling 'Stop resisting' when handcuffing in case they're being videotaped so the Darwinian behavioural game continues.
---- The above post was generated by the Turing Institute. Maybe.
reposted as I realized I was not logged in when posted the first time.....
I read this and started to tear up... http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
OK Beta Sucks... Where will we go?
This is Slashdot Damn it!!! We are not a web site, we are a community that thrives off of the unique moderation system put in place years ago.
I know for years, I have asked people who I suspected.. " Do you read Slashdot?" And if they said regularyly, I could be assured of thier being informed on
"News for NERDs & STUFF THAT MATTERS"
I learned about GOOGLE on SLASHDOT back in ... 199...8?
As a group we can collectively move. The slashdot code was published years ago.
What is the new URL?
I am not a coder but will be more than willing to help the group move forward away from this BS.
Do we start a kick starter for hosting funds?
Who will moderate submissions?
Who will administer the site?
I can't do everything to make this happen, but I will be more then willing to contribute as much as I can.
If wikipedia can exist for all these years as a non-profit then I am sure the Slashdot community can figure out how to exist free from profit motives that make things suck.
BTY - I never read slashdot on a mobile device, because it sucks! Where was the protest then?
What does it take to jam Glass's RF link?
long ago. Cameras on cops will end up preserving our omg grunt, I gotta go take a beta.
DICE, the community is trying to tell you something. We hope you are listening. This Slash Beta idea you all got obsessed with rolling out is a REALLY bad idea. You obviously tried pencil whip the user feedback portion of your launch plan otherwise the comment system wouldn't have devolved into an outright revolt against the Beta in EVERY. SINGLE. STORY. you have posted today.
Additionally, you should keep in mind that while we love Slashdot, we recognize all good things must come to and end. If this is what you want to do, then do it. However, don't expect a large portion of the community to follow you down that path. I know this because they have told you ALL DAY. I know this because this community, unlike many others, is made up of the people who have the skills and abilities to REPLACE you. I know they will replace you because you've made them passionate about the cause. Even I, a 4 digit UID and pro-lurker, am fired up enough to post! Fix this guys or the community will fix it for you.
#IamSlashdot
May "olives and feta" be our code for "fuck the beta" going forward. Like, you're in a bar in Palo Alto and somebody mentions how their company is redesigning their site and you go, "so it's olives and feta" and they either know what you're talking about or they don't.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
I live in Des Moines and know people who work for Dice. People around here read the Des Moines Register and listen to what it says.
If you really want to put pressure on the Dice executives, help make it a news story that will be read by those that can change it.
I submitted a story idea here
I mean the post that timothy had on hearing us is approaching the level of some of the most highly commented discussions on /., and it's going to keep growing. Maybe the editors can show that to their Dice overlords and get them to back the hell off of the aggressive monetizing Beta is and refocus on a way of compromising while still keeping the damn community and not tanking the awesome place that has been /. for so very long
"goodbye and hello, as always" ~Prince Corwin, from Zelazny's Amber series
When an Glass wearing officer and a Glass wearing citizen look each other in the eye, a Glassingularity is formed. The intense staring generated by the Glasshole causes all light of the Enlightenment and information about cats to curve back into itself.
Improvements cannot be made on an already broken design. Please trash it for good.
Slashdot's BETA! Can't you just fire the web designer?
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When a roided-up big city cop puts on Glass, physicists are not sure what effect such concentrated arrogance might have on surrounding matter. Such experiments should be conducted out in the Oort cloud, where the effects on Earth should be minimal.
That may be the hardest I've ever laughed at a Slashdot post. All my Internets to you, good sir or madam.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
FUCK BETA!
I think one of the things I really like about the NYPD is that they don't call us New Yorkers their "audience". On the side of the cars they have the words "Community Professionalism Respect".
Then let's also pledge to bring down dice.com
Extend the boycott to the source of our collective angst.
Now, with a little hacking, we can watch a NYPD Officer Butt Fuck a Jamaican National during the "Interrogation" Period.
Not Good!
"I ONLY LISTEN TO OBSCURE OVERSEAS BANDS USING FLAC AUDIO FILES ON A HACKBOOK AIR RUNNING FEDORA"
"64KB SHOULD BE ENOUGH RAM FOR ANYONE"
"HAVE YOU TRIED EMACS?"
"THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN ON A LINUX SYSTEM"
- Slashdot users, 2014
Change is coming. if you don't like it, go back to looking at ascii art porn on a bash prompt
google glass offers only ~20% of usable space for content, so in other words they are match made in heaven
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
how to turn off beta?
Sadly, I think I've figured it out.
- Ubuntu did it with Gnome 3.
- Microsoft did it with Windows 8.
- Numerous sites have done it by forcing facebook login to leave comments, by auto-refreshing & forcing Javascript, and by turning web pages into never-ending feeds (e.g. lifehacker.com's home page).
- Now slashdot is doing it.
Doing what? Getting rid of the gray beards.
There is no money to be sucked from bright bulbs. Those who only want to facebook will carry on like nothing has happened. And ultimately the Internet will be completely controlled by business (i.e. wolves), and populated primarily with sheep.
We, the neck bears, have served their purpose. They no longer need us. THEY are giving US the F.U.
I come here for the love
I'm picturing the NYPD implementation of Google Glass to be extremely buggy. It will have a tendency to shut off right before almost every arrest
like Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses ?
also fuck beta
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
It's important to note.. that beta blows.. it's really not good, if you're not improving the site then wtf are you doing?
or is some bitch ass malware fagging up my shit
Anyone for crowd sourcing or finding funding to develop a new website to give us the old-slashdot feel once beta becomes permanent?
I miss the old days.. Fuck beat :(
And it begins...
The Nasty Stuff Administration stuff in beta must be really important, for to be so hard to kill.
Well if the facial recognition software would allow law enforcement to identify the creators of the beta to lock them up and do unspeakable things to them, such as forcing them to wear Google glass to stare at the beta site (the usual cruel and unusual laws need not apply to monsters like them), I think it would be a terrific idea.
... it can't be any worse of an idea than the beta after all.
Well, I'm seeing Slashdotters say they're returning to Usenet, and it's definitely alive again (I started hanging out there again 3 days ago). With Slashdot admin censoring posts/sigs about any form of protest, and boycott week coming, it'd be a good idea to have somewhere pre-made to meet while everyone's still bothering, rather than wait for a full website to be built. Looking at the different group names, I think that "talk.general.specific" describes Slashdot quite well. ;)
Also, I found the Slashcode repository earlier thanks to someone pointing to the old FAQ -- here's the page for the last version, dated 2006. If someone with the knowledge/ability gets it going on a site, I think more than enough Slashdotters would contribute to pay the bills.
I'm betting that we'll see for the first time just how unreliable the storage is on google glasses. Just wait until somebody requests footage and see how fast the "malfunctions" start occurring.
My newsfeed doesn't carry it.
Learn to love Alaska
Great so calling him a Glasshole will get you arrested or in the US Shot.
Internal Affairs will love it.
Hey, do you not think Slashdot has probably got the message now, what with endless thread hijacking and the 800+ comment story where they specifically asked for feedback?
To bring this back on topic, you posting about beta now is ever bit as much an asshole move as wearing Glass into someplace people don't want photos.
#IAmAPersonWhoWantsToReadFuckingTopicalCommentsNotYourPettyVendetta
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
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I actually looked at the beta site and I do have to say that it looks
truly horrible, yes. So, although everything is offtopic everywhere today,
apparently, let me also chime and say:
Please keep the old system in place. It wasn't broken, so please don't fix it.
It's not annoying to the people that matter! It's only annoying the readers you morons.
In fact, do to incessant whining I've decided I really like Beta quite a bit and can we keep it just as it is? I'm going to fight hard for Beta now just because I know it pisses you off.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
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Judge Dredd: It's a lie! The evidence has been falsified! It's impossible! I never broke the law, I AM THE LAW!
Youre right.
Giving cops Google glasses will only encourage the smart ones to abuse their abilities and the dumb ones to hang clip-ons on them.
But I couldnt have read about it on my not-so-smart-but-more-secure phone, because BETA looks like garbled ass on it.
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
wearing these? And will they be liable if they are involved in a crash while driving distracted by same?
The USA is only 4X older than me...perspective
The primary activity of beat cops is neither tracking down bad guys nor preventing terrorism, but dealing with drunks.
I piss off bigots.
I'm loving the beta! Good job guys; beautiful, sleek, modern look, and it works great! #fuckfuckbeta
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I'm refusing to take sides in the beta kerfuffle, but that was pretty funny and apropos.
"The wisdom of the Patriarchs was that they *knew* they were fools." --Master Foo
Google Glass will suck. Here's a typical use case:
Judge: Did Google Glass record the encounter?
NYPD Official: Yes, Your Honor.
Judge: Present that as evidence.
NYPD Official: Ok, I...oh. There was a technical failure -- it's gone!
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
What will be the focus in augmenting the police officer in this way? Facial recognition, license plate recognition, voice recognition, and easier maintenance of dossiers on private citizens come to mind. Feeding camera video of fleeing suspects, floor plans of houses and apartment buildings, and outstanding warrant information directly to officers already lawfully interacting with people does too. This has great promise but comes with a great threat of misuse.
It's not like recording how stupid and law-breaking the police are will suddenly make the union allow the NYPD to fire them. They'll just whine about monitoring and blah blah blah. It's the same old bullshit as keeping bad teachers around.
Good news everyone! I've just uploaded the "Professor Farnsworth" virus into the heads of everyone reading this who has watched Futurama!
Ye flipping gods... I just went and looked at the beta site.
Whoever signed off on that design needs to have their head examined.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
I foresee an almost Robocop-esque view on a subject and their life and criminal history pop up on the cops Googlescreen:
Google Glass:
Cop: "ON the ground, fuckface!! Where's your gun!!!"
This has already happened without Google Glass but I can already see it getting abused... ;\
Will they be driving while using those? Wasn't someone arrested for wearing them? Of course they're cops so the laws don't apply the same...
I've got better things to do tonight than die.
Now I can watch the Mets/Reds game while writing tickets!
The simple truth is that the general public does not like some forms of crime but also wants to be able to commit other forms of crime. The obvious fact is that any good tool that promotes efficient law enforcement will be constantly protested. Right now the cops are catching too many bad people. We can not afford to deal with all the criminals in the system as it is. Worse yet our social policies are primitive and usually turn a minor criminal into a much more dangerous criminal.
Here is an example: Homeland Security has already captured 2,000 pieces of stolen art while searching for terrorists supplies or weapons being shipped into the US. In some cases individuals on the receiving end of an art purchase had no clue that the art work was stolen. The loss to the buyer can be quite large.
Now suppose that the feds swept up every tax cheat in America and made the case and wanted to stick them in prison. There are probably millions of tax cheats out there. Or what would happen if we could capture all of the illegal drug users in America? We could easily get to the point that the damage done to all of us from the expense of capturing criminals could be greater than the harm done by all criminals combined.
I have no answers other than making certain that prisons do not increase the anger in inmates and should provide a decent,positive environment in which the convict can advance his health and education and not be subjected to boredom or degradation.
A rather bad man dies and meets Satan in a room with three doors. Satan explains, "I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that you have to spend eternity behind one of these doors. But, the good news is that you can take a peek behind each and take your choice." So, the man opened the first door and saw a room full of people, standing on their heads on a concrete floor. Not very nice, he thought. Opening the second door, he saw a room full of people standing on their heads on a wooden floor. Better, he thought, but best to check the last door. Upon opening the last door, he saw a room full of people, standing waist-deep in excrement and sipping coffee. "Of the three, this one looks best," he said and waded in to get something to drink while Satan closed the door. A few minutes later the door opened, Satan stuck his head in and said, "Ok, coffee break's over, back on your heads!"
Sorry guys. I can't say this place is dead until Netcraft confirms it! When it does though, I'm outta here!
You forgot to end your post with: FUCK BETA. It's obligatory on /. now especially when you post "let me also chime in and say:"
So please adopt the new posting guidelines for future threads and as always
FUCK BETA
Heh. alt.geek died years ago and some of us former posters made a Facebook group called "alt.geek refugees", and I think there's a similar group on G+.
I'm sad that Usenet is basically dead save for binaries and a few text froups, some features of the newsreaders have yet to be surpassed.
Hail Eris, full of mischief...
E pluribus sanguinem
Seriously, I want to see this become an episode of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I feel quite confident that the writers of that show can come up with every possible stupid result of cops using Google Glass.
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Unity? Screw that: XFCE. Slashdot Beta? Screw that: SoylentNews. Australis? Screw that: Pale Moon. UX developers DIAF
aside from the obvious anti-beta statement that's required -- i think having cops wearing these would be a great thing. how much less shady shit could they get away with if every interaction they have with the public is recorded and available in court? Or simply knowing that they're being recorded would probably make them think twice before doing anything borderline.
and yes, fuck beta. =/
There is not enough screen area to appreciate it.
Just came back here for sh*ts and giggles after approx 8 years. Checked out the beta site. Immediately my whole being relaxed. I could finally read the stories, enjoy the comments. Its so much cleaner and clearer and than before. I'd say to the current owners of Slashdot. Make the change. Quickly. Some of the neck-beards here would like you to run an ad-free site that looks like a circa 1985 newsgroup, while you keep taking fistfuls of money out of your wallet to run the servers and pay the employees forever without hope of any return. Not sustainable. Not matter how we would want it like that.
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Citizens could soon be getting ~bills in the mail from local and state police for violations that have been recorded with g00GLe glass, along with a warning that might read, "You have been charged with (2)Two 4th class misdemeanors. By not paying, you could be liable for up to 10 times this invoice cost if pursued as a not guilty plea in court."
Invoices like these examples may become commonplace without recourse:
(1) Picking your seat in public, a gross misconduct with ludeness charge.
$ 25.00 plus non-adjudication fee and non-court cost.
(2) Spitting on sidewalk, a violation of Health Code and Common Decency Act.
$ 65.00 plus mandatory DNA lab analysis fee $ 282.97.
Total Invoice
$ 468.82 Payable on Receipt
Welcome to Orwell's future. Of course, g00GLe will be taking their cut as well, while rubbing their fat tummies, smiling ear to ear.. :o )