Hell, because I am vocal here, on Facebook, on G+, etc.. I told all my friends and family "If I vanish start asking questions." for just that reason.
I doubt you have anything to worry about, but the fact that people who are intelligent and trying to turn the tide of unending stupidity back are afraid they may be killed or imprisoned for expressing opinions contrary to the popular ones is a rather telling sign of just how far down the rabbit hole we are.
Before you say "but but but but" I'll ask you to volunteer for the Military and go see for yourself.
Couldn't. Gay. Curiously, people who chant "death to america!" are a bit more accepting regarding military service, though it usually ends with a bang.
Watch a few of your friends die and get hit by a bullet or two.
I didn't have to serve in the military to see that. I've been shot myself... twice.
Lets see how you react when you capture someone and they spit in your face and tell you they will hunt down your whole family and kill them.
I can't say I ever captured someone, but I've had people spit in my face and tell me they will hunt down my whole family and kill them. Again, gay. Also, small town.
Try helping out someone asking for help and watching them kill a few innocents, and then yell "he did it!".
Okay, at this point, I have to ask... what the fuck are you getting at? Is your justification here that two wrongs make a right? That it's okay to kill people, as long as it's for the right reasons? Collateral damage? Where are you going with this... or are you just rattling off the many inhumane things human beings are capable of when told by an authority to do them?
We torture and kill innocent people; and it's not just foreigners, it's our own citizens. Our fear mongering leaders want show trials for their re-election so badly they throw people to the wolves. The FBI is busy manufacturing terrorists just so they can claim credit for taking them down. And you're acting like we shouldn't be ashamed? That we should just accept it? Are you truly that jaded?
But in a war, when you have your ass on the line 24/7/365 and you watch people die..
You don't kill others to protect your way of life, only to come home and kill more people who's crime is living that way of life.
There are countless Occupy people that have been arrested and detained without bail or trial for weeks.
Yes, I know. I was there. And no bail or trial for a couple weeks is not the same thing as never having a trial, being disappeared, having the government deny your family, friends, or anyone access to you, never seeing a lawyer, permanently. That's what we've legalized in the past few years; and it goes against everything we have sent generations of young men overseas to die for.
Not really effective unless the population is uneducated. Considering the price of education has risen, er, 270% in the last 15 years... it would seem to indicate a concerted effort to turn an informed citizenship into mindless zombies, which has traditionally been the precursor to the fall of democratic government. I've found in the past 2 years or so people believing all kinds of non-sense that simply wouldn't have been tolerated before then. The anti-vaxxers, the global warming 'skeptics', creationism being taught in schools, homeopathic remedies... and the other day I had someone yelling at me because they thought that hair had nerves in it. It's become politically vogue to be a blithering moron.
(by the way, I am by no means claiming Israel has no such operations inside Iran).
Count on it. Unfortunately for these students, Iran won't be able to find any of them. Every military facility they have is heavily surveilled, documented, and they have US intelligence resources assisting them with satellite time, technology, and financial resources, amongst other things. Iran is desperate to plug that hole, but frankly they're heavily outmatched and being sanctioned and sabotaged every step of the way. Their only real option is to try to win in the court of public opinion: And traditionally, that's done with show trials and confessions, Soviet style. (They aren't the first, or the last, just the most well-known).
I read this as "D20 Geek" - looks like he rolled his saving throw!
Yeah, save versus government... DC 35, +10 difficulty for security theatre... you pretty much have to roll a nat 20, or have ranks in diplomacy and a high intelligence.
I have a somewhat hard time believing that a shop in Malta selling Hackintoshes after a theoretical high court ruling there would give that country altogether that much of a significant competitive advantage against the pantheon of multinational monolithic companies with bases of operation in the other 199 countries, most of which have suburbs (or equivalents) with higher totals income than Malta's GDP.
Remember that there are 200 other sovereign powers in the world besides the United States. At least one of them will understand that hardware and software are separate and distinct. That country then will be at a competitive advantage in the market. The United States is falling behind on every economic indicator regarding technology. The biggest IPO in the tech sector is a guy selling this country's citizens personal data to other corporations and countries worldwide. That is the extent of innovation in the US.
It's just a matter of time before education becomes too expensive, there are no places left to do pure research, and there is no way for a company, individual, or organization, to market new, innovative products. Our mobile technology and infrastructure is third-world, our broadband internet lags behind every other first world country, and the only component left in your computer manufacturered in the US is the processor.
America is dying, and it's rulings like this that are causing it. Someday, market forces will catch up with us, and this country's economy will stagnate and fail in front of the other 5 billion people on this planet who don't live with such laws.
"Cue the irrational fears and misunderstanding of these materials and processes while the coal fired power plant burns down the street" music
I suppose now is a bad time to point out that I could have walked into the room, picked up the cylinders of enriched uranium, played catch with them with a friend for awhile, and then tossed them into a lead-lined box for disposal without worrying much about my health. As long as I didn't lick the damn thing or powderize it and inhale it, there's little risk in short term exposure.:\
In regards to people going blind due to interference... they're already blind, so they'd just go back to "normal."
I wonder how well you'd react to having your vision taken from you without warning, while trapped in a plastic tube, in a loud and public environment, surrounded by men with shotguns...
Israeli-type security is not acceptable. I shouldn't be interrogated just because
And the rest of this sentence doesn't matter. You will be questioned if it saves my life, and thank you but fuck your entitlement issues: Your desire not to be questioned does not trump my right not to be detonated upon. Israeli type security has a proven safety record, it's effective, cheap, and doesn't result in people being rendered sterile or developing cancer because people like you can't stand the idea that you could be questioned by the authorities.
I've already heard of diabetic pumps failing when exposed to airport scanners, and those have less sophisticated electronics. I imagine if these were ever approved, we're going to have a lot of people going blind everytime they fly. The problem with wireless medical technology is part 16 of the FCC rules: It's perfectly legal to overload them with high energy RF, with potentially lethal results.
"There' is no tablet market. There is only an iPad market" say the fans and Apple gets away with not only bundling Safari but banning all other browser engines. Yet Microsoft with it's 0.1% share of tablets in the "Post-PC world" gets flogged for this.
That's because Apple has spent a lot more money on political campaign contributions than Microsoft. Also, many legislators (wrongly) believe that Apple is the salvation of the technology sector... so they're willing to look the other way. I mean, what other industries in America right now are performing well? None of them.
Who needs 'proof' when all you've said is that having more coverage gives you a chance to be safer?
Except it's a lie. I have been to the airport. There's a light rail transit station directly under the main terminal. There are about 20 stops along the route, none of which have any security, including the one at the airport; All of the processing and security stuff is up a long flight of stairs and across the lobby. The main lobby has regular glass along the ceiling, and all of the above-ground entryways also are made of glass, including glass turnstiles. picture There's many more you can pull; It's a major stop-over point, many pictures are available online.
Bottom line: 30 seconds after you exit the train, you're standing in a crowd of hundreds. Do the math. Cameras aren't going to save those people. It's the same if you arrive by bus, cab, or you feel like leaving your car in one of the pickup lanes right outside the doors.
It's all security theatre... anyone with even average intelligence can easily figure out how to kill hundreds, if not thousands, at any large airport. The simple fact is airports create crowds, the security creates chokepoints, which in turn make the crowds larger... and none of the security "improvements" since 9/11 have done anything but provide a feeling of security. If these people want real security, they should invite the Israeli's to come over and train them on how to do behavioral profiling, get rid of carry-on luggage, and stop masturbating with high tech toys. The Israelis have been much more effective in preventing terrorist attacks than the US has been, and all they use is "Mark I eyeball" and decompression chambers for the luggage. It's one of the biggest failings of US intelligence in general: They don't want to get their hands dirty. Technology is no substitute for training and observation when doing this kind of work. In fact, very often, it'll just get in the way.
Well if that's all it takes, I have a former coworker who's about to be elected President of the United States
Your former coworker believes god lives in a nearby solar system, wears magical underwear, that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, and that when he dies he's going to become a god?
In the meantime, how do you manage to find time to goof off to get ahead?"
By always looking busy, never telling the manager what I'm working on until it's done, and reporting I'm capable of doing less work than I actually am. Then, when I exceed expectations, my manager loves me, and when I deliver shiny new toys, the rest of the department loves me.
That said, in many other countries and corporate environments, tinkering would be encouraged... but in most jobs here in the good ol'US of A... you're supposed to be just smart enough to do your job, and not so smart you realize your manager's a moron, your company is unethical, and your coworkers make more than you.
Americans are slowly waking up to the fact that their mobile networks, internet access, and communications facilities are all crap compared to the rest of the world. Just wait until they find out that a farmer in rural China can get better cell phone service and a cheaper plan than they can in one of the large US cities...
Age discrimination must be the government's fault since no business would ever discriminate against any particular group of people for fear of going instantly bust due to the magic market fairy [/libertarian]
People will be people, and people are prejudiced. [/realist]
Go into management, or switch careers. America allows age discrimination so long as it's not against people near retirement age. In this industry, age discrimination is common knowledge, and several groups have tried to get laws passed to eliminate it, to no effect.
At the risk of being perfectly and completely crass, you're facing the same level of discrimination that black people did in the South prior to the civil rights movement: And unlike them, nobody gives a shit. Sorry.:(
Hey there, while you're on the topic of security, couldja not include your session ID in a URL you post? Makes you look sorta stupid. Try this instead, guys.
This just in: Companies would rather you throw money at them to fix products that are badly designed as well as throw money at them to get features. Long-time pirate girlintraining had this to say on the news "Pirate Bay has better support, current patches, and can be had quicker and with less hassle than how Adobe sells its own products. I wouldn't be opposed to paying for the product once, but after that, if you screw it up, I'm going to another vendor of your product." Adobe spokespersons had no immediate comment, but the CEO was making subtle hand gestures to the paramilitary men in the background, who left the room shortly after.
You moron. You stated that the cost of insurance would rise. I rebutted that. Now you're going back and trying to use logical fallacies incorrectly to support a position nobody's arguing with.
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Hell, because I am vocal here, on Facebook, on G+, etc.. I told all my friends and family "If I vanish start asking questions." for just that reason.
I doubt you have anything to worry about, but the fact that people who are intelligent and trying to turn the tide of unending stupidity back are afraid they may be killed or imprisoned for expressing opinions contrary to the popular ones is a rather telling sign of just how far down the rabbit hole we are.
Are you really that analytically challenged? People have been believing unbelievably stupid shit for a LOOOOOONG time.
Not so analytically challenged as to miss the qualifying statement in the past three years...
Before you say "but but but but" I'll ask you to volunteer for the Military and go see for yourself.
Couldn't. Gay. Curiously, people who chant "death to america!" are a bit more accepting regarding military service, though it usually ends with a bang.
Watch a few of your friends die and get hit by a bullet or two.
I didn't have to serve in the military to see that. I've been shot myself... twice.
Lets see how you react when you capture someone and they spit in your face and tell you they will hunt down your whole family and kill them.
I can't say I ever captured someone, but I've had people spit in my face and tell me they will hunt down my whole family and kill them. Again, gay. Also, small town.
Try helping out someone asking for help and watching them kill a few innocents, and then yell "he did it!".
Okay, at this point, I have to ask... what the fuck are you getting at? Is your justification here that two wrongs make a right? That it's okay to kill people, as long as it's for the right reasons? Collateral damage? Where are you going with this... or are you just rattling off the many inhumane things human beings are capable of when told by an authority to do them?
We torture and kill innocent people; and it's not just foreigners, it's our own citizens. Our fear mongering leaders want show trials for their re-election so badly they throw people to the wolves. The FBI is busy manufacturing terrorists just so they can claim credit for taking them down. And you're acting like we shouldn't be ashamed? That we should just accept it? Are you truly that jaded?
But in a war, when you have your ass on the line 24/7/365 and you watch people die..
You don't kill others to protect your way of life, only to come home and kill more people who's crime is living that way of life.
There are countless Occupy people that have been arrested and detained without bail or trial for weeks.
Yes, I know. I was there. And no bail or trial for a couple weeks is not the same thing as never having a trial, being disappeared, having the government deny your family, friends, or anyone access to you, never seeing a lawyer, permanently. That's what we've legalized in the past few years; and it goes against everything we have sent generations of young men overseas to die for.
We should be ashamed.
He who controls the media, controls the future.
Not really effective unless the population is uneducated. Considering the price of education has risen, er, 270% in the last 15 years... it would seem to indicate a concerted effort to turn an informed citizenship into mindless zombies, which has traditionally been the precursor to the fall of democratic government. I've found in the past 2 years or so people believing all kinds of non-sense that simply wouldn't have been tolerated before then. The anti-vaxxers, the global warming 'skeptics', creationism being taught in schools, homeopathic remedies... and the other day I had someone yelling at me because they thought that hair had nerves in it. It's become politically vogue to be a blithering moron.
(by the way, I am by no means claiming Israel has no such operations inside Iran).
Count on it. Unfortunately for these students, Iran won't be able to find any of them. Every military facility they have is heavily surveilled, documented, and they have US intelligence resources assisting them with satellite time, technology, and financial resources, amongst other things. Iran is desperate to plug that hole, but frankly they're heavily outmatched and being sanctioned and sabotaged every step of the way. Their only real option is to try to win in the court of public opinion: And traditionally, that's done with show trials and confessions, Soviet style. (They aren't the first, or the last, just the most well-known).
I was wondering how long it would be before some sheltered fool claimed America was just as bad.
Actually, it is somewhat worse.
I read this as "D20 Geek" - looks like he rolled his saving throw!
Yeah, save versus government... DC 35, +10 difficulty for security theatre... you pretty much have to roll a nat 20, or have ranks in diplomacy and a high intelligence.
At least he got a trial.
Yeah. In Canada. Meanwhile, next door...
I have a somewhat hard time believing that a shop in Malta selling Hackintoshes after a theoretical high court ruling there would give that country altogether that much of a significant competitive advantage against the pantheon of multinational monolithic companies with bases of operation in the other 199 countries, most of which have suburbs (or equivalents) with higher totals income than Malta's GDP.
I was thinking less Malta and more China.
It's just a matter of time before education becomes too expensive, there are no places left to do pure research, and there is no way for a company, individual, or organization, to market new, innovative products. Our mobile technology and infrastructure is third-world, our broadband internet lags behind every other first world country, and the only component left in your computer manufacturered in the US is the processor.
America is dying, and it's rulings like this that are causing it. Someday, market forces will catch up with us, and this country's economy will stagnate and fail in front of the other 5 billion people on this planet who don't live with such laws.
"Cue the irrational fears and misunderstanding of these materials and processes while the coal fired power plant burns down the street" music
I suppose now is a bad time to point out that I could have walked into the room, picked up the cylinders of enriched uranium, played catch with them with a friend for awhile, and then tossed them into a lead-lined box for disposal without worrying much about my health. As long as I didn't lick the damn thing or powderize it and inhale it, there's little risk in short term exposure. :\
In regards to people going blind due to interference... they're already blind, so they'd just go back to "normal."
I wonder how well you'd react to having your vision taken from you without warning, while trapped in a plastic tube, in a loud and public environment, surrounded by men with shotguns...
Israeli-type security is not acceptable. I shouldn't be interrogated just because
And the rest of this sentence doesn't matter. You will be questioned if it saves my life, and thank you but fuck your entitlement issues: Your desire not to be questioned does not trump my right not to be detonated upon. Israeli type security has a proven safety record, it's effective, cheap, and doesn't result in people being rendered sterile or developing cancer because people like you can't stand the idea that you could be questioned by the authorities.
I've already heard of diabetic pumps failing when exposed to airport scanners, and those have less sophisticated electronics. I imagine if these were ever approved, we're going to have a lot of people going blind everytime they fly. The problem with wireless medical technology is part 16 of the FCC rules: It's perfectly legal to overload them with high energy RF, with potentially lethal results.
"There' is no tablet market. There is only an iPad market" say the fans and Apple gets away with not only bundling Safari but banning all other browser engines. Yet Microsoft with it's 0.1% share of tablets in the "Post-PC world" gets flogged for this.
That's because Apple has spent a lot more money on political campaign contributions than Microsoft. Also, many legislators (wrongly) believe that Apple is the salvation of the technology sector... so they're willing to look the other way. I mean, what other industries in America right now are performing well? None of them.
Who needs 'proof' when all you've said is that having more coverage gives you a chance to be safer?
Except it's a lie. I have been to the airport. There's a light rail transit station directly under the main terminal. There are about 20 stops along the route, none of which have any security, including the one at the airport; All of the processing and security stuff is up a long flight of stairs and across the lobby. The main lobby has regular glass along the ceiling, and all of the above-ground entryways also are made of glass, including glass turnstiles. picture There's many more you can pull; It's a major stop-over point, many pictures are available online.
Bottom line: 30 seconds after you exit the train, you're standing in a crowd of hundreds. Do the math. Cameras aren't going to save those people. It's the same if you arrive by bus, cab, or you feel like leaving your car in one of the pickup lanes right outside the doors.
It's all security theatre... anyone with even average intelligence can easily figure out how to kill hundreds, if not thousands, at any large airport. The simple fact is airports create crowds, the security creates chokepoints, which in turn make the crowds larger... and none of the security "improvements" since 9/11 have done anything but provide a feeling of security. If these people want real security, they should invite the Israeli's to come over and train them on how to do behavioral profiling, get rid of carry-on luggage, and stop masturbating with high tech toys. The Israelis have been much more effective in preventing terrorist attacks than the US has been, and all they use is "Mark I eyeball" and decompression chambers for the luggage. It's one of the biggest failings of US intelligence in general: They don't want to get their hands dirty. Technology is no substitute for training and observation when doing this kind of work. In fact, very often, it'll just get in the way.
Well if that's all it takes, I have a former coworker who's about to be elected President of the United States
Your former coworker believes god lives in a nearby solar system, wears magical underwear, that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, and that when he dies he's going to become a god?
In the meantime, how do you manage to find time to goof off to get ahead?"
By always looking busy, never telling the manager what I'm working on until it's done, and reporting I'm capable of doing less work than I actually am. Then, when I exceed expectations, my manager loves me, and when I deliver shiny new toys, the rest of the department loves me.
That said, in many other countries and corporate environments, tinkering would be encouraged... but in most jobs here in the good ol'US of A... you're supposed to be just smart enough to do your job, and not so smart you realize your manager's a moron, your company is unethical, and your coworkers make more than you.
A human can do anything a computer can do. This isn't exactly news. The difference is in how long it takes.
Americans are slowly waking up to the fact that their mobile networks, internet access, and communications facilities are all crap compared to the rest of the world. Just wait until they find out that a farmer in rural China can get better cell phone service and a cheaper plan than they can in one of the large US cities...
Age discrimination must be the government's fault since no business would ever discriminate against any particular group of people for fear of going instantly bust due to the magic market fairy [/libertarian]
People will be people, and people are prejudiced. [/realist]
Go into management, or switch careers. America allows age discrimination so long as it's not against people near retirement age. In this industry, age discrimination is common knowledge, and several groups have tried to get laws passed to eliminate it, to no effect.
At the risk of being perfectly and completely crass, you're facing the same level of discrimination that black people did in the South prior to the civil rights movement: And unlike them, nobody gives a shit. Sorry. :(
Hey there, while you're on the topic of security, couldja not include your session ID in a URL you post? Makes you look sorta stupid. Try this instead, guys.
This just in: Companies would rather you throw money at them to fix products that are badly designed as well as throw money at them to get features. Long-time pirate girlintraining had this to say on the news "Pirate Bay has better support, current patches, and can be had quicker and with less hassle than how Adobe sells its own products. I wouldn't be opposed to paying for the product once, but after that, if you screw it up, I'm going to another vendor of your product." Adobe spokespersons had no immediate comment, but the CEO was making subtle hand gestures to the paramilitary men in the background, who left the room shortly after.
Hangon, someone's at the door...
You moron. You stated that the cost of insurance would rise. I rebutted that. Now you're going back and trying to use logical fallacies incorrectly to support a position nobody's arguing with.