For that matter, what's to prevent ANY isp you host with from taking over your material? I mean the reason the school took it was because they owned the servers (although his tuition paid for those servers), but your ISP owns it's own servers as well. The same logic would seem to apply.
The difference would be the fee you pay for the express purpose of hosting a site. Just because his tuition pays for the servers doesn't mean they're any less the school's property. I can use the toilets on campus, but I don't have the right to take 'em home because they're not mine. Nor do I have the right to put stuff in them that the University forbids. This is not to be construed as a commentary on the contents of the site.....
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Why must this program continue to insult people with this offensive name? Can you imagine a database program called FAG, or a word processor called SPIC?
You probably wouldn't like to use lame either. There was a cleaning product called Spic and Span and some folks call cigarettes fags although that word originally referred to a bundle of sticks used in fire-building. There are other definitions for gimp that pre-date the derrogatory usages by at least 200 years.
I was also wondering about your mousing grousing since I don't know of too many devices that require all four fingers and a thumb. I use only three fingers and a thumb for my multi-button, scrolling mouse. Phil Keaggy plays a mean guitar with missing fingers and anyone who has heard him play would probably consider those who have to keep up with him to be the ones operating under a handicap, regardless of their extra-digital advantage.
Sourceforge also has a customer base to whom they might want to communicate security issues prior to letting the world know.
I thought that's what they were doing with the email - alerting their client base to the problem. Unless you mean when it comes time to reveal the nature of the compromise....
Stupid admin is a feature lacking EVERY os.
Thats why I'm writing an os with stupid admin built in.
How dose it work?
Well you set it up and tell it what you are doing. It installs all the software etc and sets everything up at the WORST possable setting.
I see the settings are also available for spelling and grammar checking.
I just hope this dork feels as sick now as he felt self-righteous when he watched the terror creep across the kid's face when he told him he "could" be going jail.
Who's being self-righteous here? We're not sure that the principal was, but it's fairly evident that you are now. You're making allegations that may have no basis in fact. The father may have misunderstood something his son said, who may have misinterpreted what may or may not have been said by the principal or he may have surmised a conversation based upon the suicide note alone. The superintendent says that the principal said (hearsay from both parties at best) that "...if (Shinjan) was an adult, hacking into the computer system could be a crime...". It sounds as though he's trying to stress the severity of the offense while implying that there would be no criminal charges (not unusual in a school system - bad publicity and all). Since the student didn't seem to be visibly upset, there was probably no attempt to allay the fears that obviously (with 20/20 hindsight) lie buried.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is someone out there that has a patent on a breathing mechanism. They'll probably be suing God and every living breathing thing for all their worth...
Yes, I have the patent on that, but I've released it under the GPL (General Pulmonary License).
Despite how much Linux has progressed in the last 5 years, this is the kind of thing that reminds me that there is no way any money can be made from the free O/S.
Did you know that Oldsmobile is going out of business?
Despite how much automotive technology has progressed in the last 50 years, this is the kind of thing that reminds me that there is no way any money can be made from the manufacturing of automobiles.
I know we're talking about totally different industries here. What I'm not sure of is whether you understand that because 'x' businesses go belly up it does not necessarily follow that the product is not viable. Many times multiple failures precede eventual successes. Chrysler nearly went under several years ago, but in the hands of a more visionary manager was able to turn around to the point that they were able to become a leader in the industry (yes, I'm aware of the governmental bail-out, but the former management team likely could not have turned things around even if they'd had such a cash infusion).
These business failures, while they may be devastating to the principals, investors and employees, are varying attempts to see what will work in the marketplace. Those who hang in there and keep adjusting to compensate and re-tooling to incorporate what they learn along the way will eventually succeed where others have failed.
I tried Abiword but it kept croaking on me. Still needs some work. Until the frustration level associated with using it diminishes to the point I can explore its features without trashing my document I think I'll stick with WordPerfect. Yes, it has crashed a time or two, but not often.
Of course, if people were a little more aware of ergonomics, maybe we could prevent the injuries in the first place.
Although spreading the keyboard helps, most folks could improve the situation by not cocking their wrists back. In the old days, when typing was taught on manual typewriters, there was something called proper 'technique' which involved arching the wrists. Same technique that pianists learn and concert pianists practice as many hours as many of us keyboard. They have the added advantage of a keyboard that is spread out so that they aren't stuck with their index fingers one inch apart all day.
....the purchase adds 2,500 employees, many
skilled in database sales, marketing and
research....
Now THAT'S funny! If there is one thing those working with Informix products universally agree on, it's the poor job of marketing the company has done. If it was marketing prowess they were after they should have bought Oracle. Price of entry might have been a bit higher.....
Then, when they've spent 18 years in their little bubble, and something pops it, they have no coping mechanisms in place, because Mommy and Daddy always made sure that nothing would offend "widdle Johnny". So he grabs a gun and kills 10 people. Or drives Daddy's new Range Rover into a McDonalds. Or jumps off of a bridge. All because his girlfriend broke up with him or something equally stupid.
I disagree.
I thought the two maniacs that shot up Columbine (Please excuse the 'Post-Columbine' post) 2 years ago had basically been left to their own devices to the extent they were able to make bombs (ineffective though they might have been) in the bedroom while mom and dad ignored them. They were both homicidal and suicidal.
It's a parent's responsibility to protect their kids, but at the same time educate them appropriately. Simply exposing them to everything doesn't prepare them for anything.
Another way to look at this is that one great travisty of democracy and capitolism, no matter how much we love them, is that a tiny, but vocal minority can influence the lives of the majority. Worse, the people who did this didn't stop Yahoo because the availability of porn harmed them, but rather because the freedom of others to buy it is an affront to their sensibilities.
While that is certainly another way to look at it, your argument misses the mark. Another poster already pointed out that the type of folks who responded are likely a significant segment of the target market for Yahoo. It was entirely appropriate for these folks to protest based on 'an affront to their sensibilities' for the same reason most folks don't eat in the outhouse.
I am a non-smoker (actually I am very sensitive to cigarette smoke - gives me a raging headache even after a short exposure). I happen to live near a community where smoking is banned in public buildings. I drive into the neighboring community when I want to eat at a restaurant. That way I don't have to walk through the smoking section to get to the 'non-smoking' section (which is isolated from the smoking section by an air-tight barrier that is shoulder high when seated. This is often augmented by a bio-filter of silk plants.) Smokers cry that their rights are being violated when the truth is there are plenty of places they can still smoke. Their argument, similar perhaps to your own (unstated by you, but I'm guessing based on the content you did provide) regarding Yahoo, is that I can stay home - I don't have to be subjected to their smoke unless I want to...
...most Christians don't practice many of the ideals of there religion in the first place.
I myself am Christian...
...what if, for some strange reason, a person would be better off with another religion or belief?
...my belief is that you should believe what you want...
I think you're confused, unless the first statement I quoted was a disclaimer for your own belief system. You prove your own point when you take on the religious name-tag, "Christian" but argue from the philosophical view of a moral relativist.
You can't count time spent securing a box as damage - it was insecure before the cracker arrived.
I'm not counting the time it takes to patch the original security hole, but the amount of time it takes to find out if the cracker altered the system or created new holes. That takes far more time and effort than a simple patch. In this particular instance we're talking about someone who had long term access (legitimately) to systems and would have had ample time and opportunity to loosen things up to suit his tastes.
Now this brings up a question: What is the name of the victim? Is it Intel Corportation? Can a corporation be a crime victim? And the nature of the injury? Certainly a person can receive a broken arm, or loss of life, but how exactly can a corporation be injured?
If you are saying that because corporations do not have arms that can be broken or lives to lose that they can't be injured and therefore cannot be victims in a criminal sense, then you would have to say that persons who are deprived of property are not victims since there was no bodily injury. Perhaps those who are raped are not injured (and therefore no crime committed) unless there was physical damage.
...nobody proved that he actually did anything damaging and the penalties are so draconian.
While I agree that the penalties seem severe, a cracked box is damaged from the standpoint that many man-hours must be expended to secure it (or likely rebuild it).
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My guess is that it had more to do with the spoofed email threats by his "supporters" that appeared to originate from him....
How about:
The only involvement the university had was hosting the site and buying the server, that's it.
The difference would be the fee you pay for the express purpose of hosting a site. Just because his tuition pays for the servers doesn't mean they're any less the school's property. I can use the toilets on campus, but I don't have the right to take 'em home because they're not mine. Nor do I have the right to put stuff in them that the University forbids. This is not to be construed as a commentary on the contents of the site.....
You probably wouldn't like to use lame either. There was a cleaning product called Spic and Span and some folks call cigarettes fags although that word originally referred to a bundle of sticks used in fire-building. There are other definitions for gimp that pre-date the derrogatory usages by at least 200 years.
I was also wondering about your mousing grousing since I don't know of too many devices that require all four fingers and a thumb. I use only three fingers and a thumb for my multi-button, scrolling mouse. Phil Keaggy plays a mean guitar with missing fingers and anyone who has heard him play would probably consider those who have to keep up with him to be the ones operating under a handicap, regardless of their extra-digital advantage.
Sorry. Must have missed the reference. I was thinking 3.5" form-factor. Totable, but not quite the same as a 2.5".
I thought that's what they were doing with the email - alerting their client base to the problem. Unless you mean when it comes time to reveal the nature of the compromise....
How dose it work? Well you set it up and tell it what you are doing. It installs all the software etc and sets everything up at the WORST possable setting.
I see the settings are also available for spelling and grammar checking.
What are those, SCSI drives? 40Gig drives are going for around $160 locally (last time I looked).
Who's being self-righteous here? We're not sure that the principal was, but it's fairly evident that you are now. You're making allegations that may have no basis in fact. The father may have misunderstood something his son said, who may have misinterpreted what may or may not have been said by the principal or he may have surmised a conversation based upon the suicide note alone. The superintendent says that the principal said (hearsay from both parties at best) that "...if (Shinjan) was an adult, hacking into the computer system could be a crime...". It sounds as though he's trying to stress the severity of the offense while implying that there would be no criminal charges (not unusual in a school system - bad publicity and all). Since the student didn't seem to be visibly upset, there was probably no attempt to allay the fears that obviously (with 20/20 hindsight) lie buried.
Well if you had any clue....
And then you have the gall to call, "Yep, it's iptables instead of the typical ipchains method of firewalling." a "vicious rant"???
Yes, I have the patent on that, but I've released it under the GPL (General Pulmonary License).
Nah, that'd be MagneKibosh. Maybe they should change their name to Magnequash (much more extinguished, non?).
The Merlin is not a PBX. It's a decent electronic key system, but there are a lot of those anymore. I'm not sure what your point was here anyway.
Did you know that Oldsmobile is going out of business?
Despite how much automotive technology has progressed in the last 50 years, this is the kind of thing that reminds me that there is no way any money can be made from the manufacturing of automobiles.
I know we're talking about totally different industries here. What I'm not sure of is whether you understand that because 'x' businesses go belly up it does not necessarily follow that the product is not viable. Many times multiple failures precede eventual successes. Chrysler nearly went under several years ago, but in the hands of a more visionary manager was able to turn around to the point that they were able to become a leader in the industry (yes, I'm aware of the governmental bail-out, but the former management team likely could not have turned things around even if they'd had such a cash infusion).
These business failures, while they may be devastating to the principals, investors and employees, are varying attempts to see what will work in the marketplace. Those who hang in there and keep adjusting to compensate and re-tooling to incorporate what they learn along the way will eventually succeed where others have failed.
I tried Abiword but it kept croaking on me. Still needs some work. Until the frustration level associated with using it diminishes to the point I can explore its features without trashing my document I think I'll stick with WordPerfect. Yes, it has crashed a time or two, but not often.
Although spreading the keyboard helps, most folks could improve the situation by not cocking their wrists back. In the old days, when typing was taught on manual typewriters, there was something called proper 'technique' which involved arching the wrists. Same technique that pianists learn and concert pianists practice as many hours as many of us keyboard. They have the added advantage of a keyboard that is spread out so that they aren't stuck with their index fingers one inch apart all day.
Now THAT'S funny! If there is one thing those working with Informix products universally agree on, it's the poor job of marketing the company has done. If it was marketing prowess they were after they should have bought Oracle. Price of entry might have been a bit higher.....
YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET OVER IT!!!!
I agree.
Then, when they've spent 18 years in their little bubble, and something pops it, they have no coping mechanisms in place, because Mommy and Daddy always made sure that nothing would offend "widdle Johnny". So he grabs a gun and kills 10 people. Or drives Daddy's new Range Rover into a McDonalds. Or jumps off of a bridge. All because his girlfriend broke up with him or something equally stupid.
I disagree. I thought the two maniacs that shot up Columbine (Please excuse the 'Post-Columbine' post) 2 years ago had basically been left to their own devices to the extent they were able to make bombs (ineffective though they might have been) in the bedroom while mom and dad ignored them. They were both homicidal and suicidal.
It's a parent's responsibility to protect their kids, but at the same time educate them appropriately. Simply exposing them to everything doesn't prepare them for anything.
While that is certainly another way to look at it, your argument misses the mark. Another poster already pointed out that the type of folks who responded are likely a significant segment of the target market for Yahoo. It was entirely appropriate for these folks to protest based on 'an affront to their sensibilities' for the same reason most folks don't eat in the outhouse.
I am a non-smoker (actually I am very sensitive to cigarette smoke - gives me a raging headache even after a short exposure). I happen to live near a community where smoking is banned in public buildings. I drive into the neighboring community when I want to eat at a restaurant. That way I don't have to walk through the smoking section to get to the 'non-smoking' section (which is isolated from the smoking section by an air-tight barrier that is shoulder high when seated. This is often augmented by a bio-filter of silk plants.) Smokers cry that their rights are being violated when the truth is there are plenty of places they can still smoke. Their argument, similar perhaps to your own (unstated by you, but I'm guessing based on the content you did provide) regarding Yahoo, is that I can stay home - I don't have to be subjected to their smoke unless I want to...
I myself am Christian...
I think you're confused, unless the first statement I quoted was a disclaimer for your own belief system. You prove your own point when you take on the religious name-tag, "Christian" but argue from the philosophical view of a moral relativist.
I'm not counting the time it takes to patch the original security hole, but the amount of time it takes to find out if the cracker altered the system or created new holes. That takes far more time and effort than a simple patch. In this particular instance we're talking about someone who had long term access (legitimately) to systems and would have had ample time and opportunity to loosen things up to suit his tastes.
Now this brings up a question: What is the name of the victim? Is it Intel Corportation? Can a corporation be a crime victim? And the nature of the injury? Certainly a person can receive a broken arm, or loss of life, but how exactly can a corporation be injured?
If you are saying that because corporations do not have arms that can be broken or lives to lose that they can't be injured and therefore cannot be victims in a criminal sense, then you would have to say that persons who are deprived of property are not victims since there was no bodily injury. Perhaps those who are raped are not injured (and therefore no crime committed) unless there was physical damage.
Just trying to understand your position....
Is there an echo in here???
Merlyn's /. account was hacked.
His password must have been too easy.....
...nobody proved that he actually did anything damaging and the penalties are so draconian. While I agree that the penalties seem severe, a cracked box is damaged from the standpoint that many man-hours must be expended to secure it (or likely rebuild it).