It's good to see at least one company making sure that employees representing the company are identified as such regardless of the media................Anonymous marketing destroys social trust, and over the long term that's a very bad thing.
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I'm going to take this as your saying that company's should not use social network sites for advertising purposes.
I must admit I did not think of that but I agree with you.
The background on this story is someone in telstra set up a blog claiming to be the federal minister for communications Stephen Conroy.
It was a brilliant "piss take" but it does not look like telstra saw the funny side. To me this 6 page rule and guidelines "bible" sounds a bit over the top.
Telstra's upper management are almost exclusively US imports so you can't blame it on Australian factors. They are also the weird aberration of a government owned monopoly that has recently gone private and has the worst of both worlds. Think of a department of motor transport mixed with Enron run by a guy that has bounced from one failure to the next all his career but still demands to be treated like a rock star. Thankfully he's taking his payout of millions and his mediocre cronies and leaving soon.
Telstra is the AT&T of australia.
Telstra is a company that needs to fail so that the australian telecommunications industry can change and adapt to new technologies and trends.
The bind for the australian government is that when it was privatized it was not broken up so this one company owns something like 90% of telecommunication infrastructure.
I remember vinyl, its was only good for the first say 10 plays and then you would get a scratch or a bit of dust and then you get pops and crackly sounds.
its the reason Vinyl had dust covers - usually two a cardboard/paper cover and a plastic cover.
Now matter what you did the records always got scratches.
the noise was dreadful I was stunned at the sound quality of cd's when they came out I could here the singer taking a breath and the guitar players fingers sliding on the strings. - Simply magic.
I tend to boycott Apple MP3 players mainly because of their proprietary formats and hardware lock-in................
Funny thing is that apples audio formats have to be the easiest to convert to another format . I find putting everything in mp3 works well as itunes drops and plays mp3 files.
apple's hardware is also in my experience very easy to circumvent , its almost as if apple is "just going through the motions."
Installing apples "shitty software" is very simple and free.
Download and click install it then upgrades itself to latest version.
The nice part about itunes is it contains a search built-in for movies and tv episodes. Every things "there for you on a plate" and you can subscribe to tv episodes.
primary infringer:secondary infringer::murderer:accessory to murder
And if you think lawyers contribute nothing, you must either (1) expect the layperson to understand the law completely, (2) allow "I don't know the law" as an excuse to any crime, or (3) think that there is no need for laws.
It's like saying engineers don't contribute anything to society because other people could build their own bridges. Or mathematicians don't contribute because everyone can add 2+2.
oh god im getting into a flame war.....
I think there was a famous quote once : when you argue with a fool you become one.
Reading up on safe harbour things sound really murky and has rules like "the service provider must not receive a financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity."
I do not think be a lawyer with google would be fun lets put it that way.
Everything not specifically released into the public domain that is indexed by Google is copyrighted.
That would probably be more than 99.99% of the internet.
What on Earth would make you think that a legal case in Sweden would have that effect? What do you imagine Google would pay for? To whom? Why Google, and not the downloader?
I don't think what you're saying is remotely realistic.
What I should have put is I can see the way this is heading.
When a song is played on the radio, in a store,on oil rig etc. money is payed to the copyright owners (whoops I put musicians, money generally goes to everyone but the musicians).
I can see this happening here with google and most likely your isp will pay a fee , this will be hidden in your isp bill, and the money will be payed to the copyright owners.
........ "But they are only providing the links". Give me a fucking break. You fully well know what they are trying to accomplish with their site. Don't pretend like its something its not. It is for encouraging piracy plain and simple.
First we are talking law here so its not plain and simple (there are lawyers who have justify the existence) and second truthfully I think google is used for piracy more often than pirate bay is.
The real difference is searching on pirate bay is easier than google.
The pirate bay is just a nice soft target that can be squashed and used to set a precedent for future cases.
I have read about botched hangings and they can be pretty horrific.
For the audience, maybe. Having your head torn off will result in unconsciousness just as quickly as having your neck broken, but it's a bit harder for the audience to stomach.............
If you read the report of Dr Beaurieux who called out to Henri Languille after he had been executed at the guillotine you might think differently. http://www.guillotine.dk/Pages/30sec.html
The real problem with hanging is the amount of time it takes to die. They estimate 10-15 mins.
hanging is a perfectly reasonable form of execution. it's probably easier to get right than lethal injection or electrocution, given some of the horror stories we've all heard. if the rope is long enough and positioned properly, death is instantaneous from a broken neck.
bull
My understanding of hanging using the short/long drop method is if the persons lucky there neck is broken and they lose conscious and die a few seconds later.
I have read about botched hangings and they can be pretty horrific.
Lethal injection at least it seems like a painless death.
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It's good to see at least one company making sure that employees representing the company are identified as such regardless of the media................Anonymous marketing destroys social trust, and over the long term that's a very bad thing.
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I'm going to take this as your saying that company's should not use social network sites for advertising purposes.
I must admit I did not think of that but I agree with you.
The background on this story is someone in telstra set up a blog claiming to be the federal minister for communications Stephen Conroy.
It was a brilliant "piss take" but it does not look like telstra saw the funny side. To me this 6 page rule and guidelines "bible" sounds a bit over the top.
This just proves Telstra is now american with no sense of humor.
What you can't have satire anymore?
You "can't take the piss" out of anyone?
Telstra's upper management are almost exclusively US imports so you can't blame it on Australian factors.
They are also the weird aberration of a government owned monopoly that has recently gone private and has the worst of both worlds. Think of a department of motor transport mixed with Enron run by a guy that has bounced from one failure to the next all his career but still demands to be treated like a rock star. Thankfully he's taking his payout of millions and his mediocre cronies and leaving soon.
Telstra is the AT&T of australia.
Telstra is a company that needs to fail so that the australian telecommunications industry can change and adapt to new technologies and trends.
The bind for the australian government is that when it was privatized it was not broken up so this one company owns something like 90% of telecommunication infrastructure.
yea this is obsolete info.
In fact, you can do that. Plug the ipod into a PC without itunes and it appears to be a usb drive.
BULLSHIT.
Yes, you can use the iphone as a drive to store files, but you can't drop songs there and then play them on the ipod.
you can, what you need to do is download the programs. Lots available and you can do it with out cracking the phone.
example a program that somebody just listed on slashdot.
(thanks by the way dude, it works great)
pctopod or mactopod
http://www.podtomac.com/
http://www.podtopc.com/
Thanks thats brilliant.
I remember vinyl, its was only good for the first say 10 plays and then you would get a scratch or a bit of dust and then you get pops and crackly sounds.
its the reason Vinyl had dust covers - usually two a cardboard/paper cover and a plastic cover.
Now matter what you did the records always got scratches.
the noise was dreadful I was stunned at the sound quality of cd's when they came out I could here the singer taking a breath and the guitar players fingers sliding on the strings. - Simply magic.
I tend to boycott Apple MP3 players mainly because of their proprietary formats and hardware lock-in................
Funny thing is that apples audio formats have to be the easiest to convert to another format . I find putting everything in mp3 works well as itunes drops and plays mp3 files.
apple's hardware is also in my experience very easy to circumvent , its almost as if apple is "just going through the motions."
Itunes is available for windows.
Installing apples "shitty software" is very simple and free.
Download and click install it then upgrades itself to latest version.
The nice part about itunes is it contains a search built-in for movies and tv episodes. Every things "there for you on a plate" and you can subscribe to tv episodes.
Think of it like this:
primary infringer:secondary infringer::murderer:accessory to murder
And if you think lawyers contribute nothing, you must either (1) expect the layperson to understand the law completely, (2) allow "I don't know the law" as an excuse to any crime, or (3) think that there is no need for laws.
It's like saying engineers don't contribute anything to society because other people could build their own bridges. Or mathematicians don't contribute because everyone can add 2+2.
oh god im getting into a flame war.....
I think there was a famous quote once : when you argue with a fool you become one.
all I can say is i'm not a fool are you ?
Reading up on safe harbour things sound really murky and has rules like "the service provider must not receive a financial benefit directly attributable to the infringing activity."
I do not think be a lawyer with google would be fun lets put it that way.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6038116.stm
Do not worry when I read what you wrote on the first post it seemed funny.
Just picking bits out.
I'm a bit of cynic when it comes to lawyers. I'm not sure what they contribute to society.
Your use of primary infringer and secondary infringer are meaningless as far as I can see.
Unfortunately I'm sure they mean something in court cases when they whip the magnifying glasses out.
............ "inducement" theory of secondary liability.
Google, however, would not, as they don't induce copyright infringement.
Seriously, it's like Slashdotters don't understand that the law takes factual circumstances into account.
it is law we are talking about here and law is about lawyers presenting stories based on facts to a judge and or jury.
Wow so I can have copyrighted material on a website and as long I do not induce people to download it, I can not get sued ?
How cool is that ?
4. Google complies with legal takedown notices. TPB does not.
So pirate bay guys goes to jail for being juvenile little so and so's ?
surely there is another way ?
1. TPB exists primarily to facilitate copyright violation. Google is a common carrier.
2. TPB hosts the BitTorrent tracker files. Google does not.
so the real difference is in the technology that the pirate bay uses ?
if you were to say google hosts mp3 files in its caches...
Everything not specifically released into the public domain that is indexed by Google is copyrighted.
That would probably be more than 99.99% of the internet.
What on Earth would make you think that a legal case in Sweden would have that effect? What do you imagine Google would pay for? To whom? Why Google, and not the downloader?
I don't think what you're saying is remotely realistic.
What I should have put is I can see the way this is heading.
When a song is played on the radio, in a store ,on oil rig etc. money is payed to the copyright owners (whoops I put musicians, money generally goes to everyone but the musicians).
I can see this happening here with google and most likely your isp will pay a fee , this will be hidden in your isp bill, and the money will be payed to the copyright owners .
Legal litigation just is not going to cut it
The pirate bay case means google may have to pay when people use google to download copyrighted material.
Almost sounds like the internet will be treated like a broadcaster on radio stations where money is payed to musicians when a song is played.
........ "But they are only providing the links". Give me a fucking break. You fully well know what they are trying to accomplish with their site. Don't pretend like its something its not. It is for encouraging piracy plain and simple.
First we are talking law here so its not plain and simple
(there are lawyers who have justify the existence) and second truthfully I think google is used for piracy more often than pirate bay is.
The real difference is searching on pirate bay is easier than google.
The pirate bay is just a nice soft target that can be squashed and used to set a precedent for future cases.
Many more people die from heart attacks and car accidents each year. Why the big fuss over terrorism?
Heart Attacks I can understand - its natural, you have to die of something.
Car accidents - I can understand - nasty, a product of our society, you have to die of something.
Terrorism - I cannot understand, some nut job/s using violence for a political aim.
see the difference ?
It's still sneaky and patronizing.......................
while Militant Islam is only fucking scary and all they want to do is kill infidels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
even scarier is we the West helped them so that they would take on the Soviets. What goes around comes around ....
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Imagine there's no countries.
It isn't hard to do.
Nothing to kill or die for,
And no religion too.
Imagine all the people,
Living life in peace. .............
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today, aah haa
Imagine there's no county
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace, you ooh
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world, you ooh
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Imagine 1971
John Lennon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw
John Lennon sung such a beautiful song it was just such a let down when I found out he was worth approx. 40 million at the time.
Please mod parent up.
Well it is an incendiary post and the author has obvious hate of islam it is thought provoking.
I for one would hope the readers of slashdot are given a chance to read this and give there opinion.
I'm all for open discussion.
Oi, mate, leave kangaroos out of this!
Yeah !!!!!! .....
but
they are tasty. :-)
I have read about botched hangings and they can be pretty horrific.
For the audience, maybe. Having your head torn off will result in unconsciousness just as quickly as having your neck broken, but it's a bit harder for the audience to stomach.............
If you read the report of Dr Beaurieux who called out to Henri Languille after he had been executed at the guillotine you might think differently. http://www.guillotine.dk/Pages/30sec.html
The real problem with hanging is the amount of time it takes to die. They estimate 10-15 mins.
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging2.html
I say let them die in jail, make them spend the rest of there lives rotting away.
hanging is a perfectly reasonable form of execution. it's probably easier to get right than lethal injection or electrocution, given some of the horror stories we've all heard. if the rope is long enough and positioned properly, death is instantaneous from a broken neck.
bull
My understanding of hanging using the short/long drop method
is if the persons lucky there neck is broken and they lose conscious and die a few seconds later.
I have read about botched hangings and they can be pretty horrific.
Lethal injection at least it seems like a painless death.