Either Ford have screwed up, or you got a bad example. Small engined VWs (1.2/1.4 TSI) I've driven have exhibited none of this, with plenty of torque available from ~1400rpm, with no effort required to spool the turbo. Compared to a 2.0TDI, you get far less noticeable boost.
Comment from someone here who owns one suggests they're not all bad.
I drive a 1.4 TSI, so not quite as small, but not worlds apart from the 1.0 Ecoboost. As long as you've got 1400rpm it's fine, more than 2000 and the rest of the power arrives. But that's not wildy different to my last naturally aspirated Toyota, and all in there's lots more low down torque, so you can accelerate uphill at 40 in sixth.
I'm not convinced this is that big a deal for most people. UK average mileage was 7900 miles in 2014. Even if you say the engine goes pop at 120k miles, that's still 15 average years of driving. Let's be honest, somebody buying the 1.0L Mondeo is probably going to drive fewer miles than average, so I don't see that being a bother for anyone, even if it does suffer reduced engine longevity. Any slight bump in an old car turns it into an insurance write off anyway. Average age of a car in the UK is 8 years.
If I had a choice between a modern 1.0L Focus, and a 1.6L Focus of roughly a decade ago, you see what difference you're talking about. Better performance (25% more power, 33% more peak torque), far better MPG, lighter. General torque curve means much more lower down power, so you have to work the gearbox less. Hell, look at the current 1.6 Duratec engine, and convince someone to get that over the 1.0L.
If these engines were going pop at 50k I'd think you had a point, but they're not.
Fully synthetic is recommended by VW, with a 10k change interval. If you service it on their approved long life schedule it can go a fair way longer than that (~20k). Three months may be standard practice, but it's distinctly odd this side of the pond.
Which car are you referring to that needs 3 month oil changes? 1.4 TSI VW engine standard oil change interval is 10k miles. In the low tune version you get, achievable 40mpg, 122bhp, 148lbft. 60mph with no traffic, you get ~50mpg. No soot at all, exhaust clean as a whistle after 40k. Nicer to drive, and quieter than the equivalent diesel. Lower performance than that 2.0TDI, but quicker than the 1.6.
Does it matter that the engine lasts 600k miles when the car is typically scrapped well before that?
Companies maximise profit, and they influence politicians to get the loopholes they want to avoid paying tax. Your annoyance needs to be focussed on the politicians for doing this, not the companies, I agree. That doesn't mean you should feel good about companies lobbying and then using loopholes to avoid tax.
You obviously have the option of not using companies that behave in ways that you disapprove of. Don't like companies that don't pay a living wage? Boycott them. Don't like companies that go to extreme lengths to avoid tax? Don't buy from them. Don't want bonded labour to be used to make what you buy? Don't buy it.
If enough people behaved this way, companies would start to behave better. The reality is that people choose to not find out, or don't care, then buy the cheap thing off the shelf.
When you renew your insurance, do you get the cheapest, or the one that you trust to deal with you fairly when you actually need them? I think the majority pick the former. Does that mean they deserve to get screwed when they need them? I'd say no, but it doesn't necessarily encourage the industry to evolve in a good direction.
I'm not sure that's a sound argument. You should be checksumming such that you're confident that what you're doing is what you were asked to do, and working in transactions, such that if you've not received a whole command group, you're not running any of it. I'd think it was only in desperate circumstances you'd issues a command that says do this, or in fact do anything plausible if you don't fully receive this, because you're about to fly into something hard...
It happened to me with genuine products. Logitech keyboard/mouse that had a bluetooth receiver. Windows 7 decided it should have a new shiny bluetooth 3 driver installed for it which didn't work, which lost you access to the keyboard and mouse. Downgrade and pin, as you say, or disable the bluetooth entirely and have it act just as a keyboard/mouse.
Sure, but the smaller you go, the higher the ppi, and I'm just not feeling the benefit for most of the work I do. You're at 160ppi with a 28" screen, so end up scaling things up to make them a better size to use. At that point, yet you've got slightly nicer looking visuals, but not more lines of text. That said, the 28" you point to is a very attractive price, so you end up not having to argue for paying for 4k, as they're just a pair of reasonably priced 28" screens.
I can see road departments using the fact that the cars can drive around potholes to ignore them for even longer than they do now. Roads will become undriveable for humans;)
But the argument you're making is for screen real estate there. A pair of Dell 27" 110dpi 2560x1440 IPS monitors for £800 for me is probably of more interest than a 4k 32" screen. 50% more area, at a DPI that's adequate, for slightly less than a decent 32" 4k screen costs. Having used the Dell 32" 4k screen, I couldn't convince myself that the DPI was doing me any favours in normal work.
That's not true. Companies charge what the market can bear, and if they had lower taxes, they'd mostly just reap higher margins. Do you really think Apples prices would significantly rise if their tax burden went up? That's certainly not true of all markets.
In an ideal world, the electorate can deal with the immoral government, and the government can deal with the immoral company by making their actions illegal (if indeed it's the will of the people to crack down on immoral activity).
I'm not arguing that they should be punished for being immoral, but long term, they probably *should* expect the law to stop treating them so favourably.
If you think the government gives you nothing back, you're right to be annoyed. I get free health care, free education, free social care, a welfare system to look out for me if I'm in trouble, a pension when I got old (perhaps). I get police to keep things in order and try to make sure that I get to keep what's left of what I earn, and a fire brigade to look out for me. An ambulance that'll take me to hospital if that doesn't pan out. I get money channelled into research no company would have an interest in pursuing, but that makes people's lives better. I get roads to drive and walk down, and parks to take my kids to. I get playgrounds and lakes. I get food that doesn't kill me, and toys that don't hurt my kids. I get a computer that doesn't injure me.
Your definition of not hurting anyone is fairly important though. I think in this case, the company *and* the government could be morally but not legally in the wrong. They transferring money from the government to their own bank account. If you pretend for a minute that the government does things that are good for the people, then they're preventing some of this from happening.
In itself, that's just a race to the bottom on corporation tax. Then you find rich people earn nothing and simply channel all their funds through companies... oh wait.
Actually starting the car is far less likely in newer cars, because whilst the number of key combinations are small, the number of key transponders is not.
If you're just wanting to learn MPI, then a regular multicore PC/laptop is perfectly fine, since it's basically a tiny HPC with a very fast interconnect. If you have access to more than one machine, even better, as you've then got two machines connected with a slow interconnect, so you properly feel the pain of communication costs, and how to distribute your workload best.
Judaism has the same fundamental conflict with Chrstianity, but we get by. But then to be honest, we get by pretty well with Islam too.
I'd hate for all Christians to be tarred with the brush of the worst, as much as I'd hate the same for Muslims, or indeed any group. The problem with the majority of Muslims is... there really isn't one. It's no more true than me saying that the problem with most Americans is that they're gun toting, pie eating idiots.
I'd read that the roads really aren't what they used to be. Germany has been great at limiting spending and running a surplus, but it's really starting to bite now, with German infrastructure looking frankly British;)
There's one junction I know of, where you can't see the exit is clear if you turn left at a crossroad because of buildings and the white line being a long way back. As a result you honestly can't know for sure the exit is clear when you go. At least with the daily mail example, you have the option of not doing it, although depending on the cycle of the lights you may never progress...
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I look forward to the day I can bemoan the boringness of driving a GT-R around a track.
Either Ford have screwed up, or you got a bad example. Small engined VWs (1.2/1.4 TSI) I've driven have exhibited none of this, with plenty of torque available from ~1400rpm, with no effort required to spool the turbo. Compared to a 2.0TDI, you get far less noticeable boost.
Comment from someone here who owns one suggests they're not all bad.
I drive a 1.4 TSI, so not quite as small, but not worlds apart from the 1.0 Ecoboost. As long as you've got 1400rpm it's fine, more than 2000 and the rest of the power arrives. But that's not wildy different to my last naturally aspirated Toyota, and all in there's lots more low down torque, so you can accelerate uphill at 40 in sixth.
I'm not convinced this is that big a deal for most people. UK average mileage was 7900 miles in 2014. Even if you say the engine goes pop at 120k miles, that's still 15 average years of driving. Let's be honest, somebody buying the 1.0L Mondeo is probably going to drive fewer miles than average, so I don't see that being a bother for anyone, even if it does suffer reduced engine longevity. Any slight bump in an old car turns it into an insurance write off anyway. Average age of a car in the UK is 8 years.
If I had a choice between a modern 1.0L Focus, and a 1.6L Focus of roughly a decade ago, you see what difference you're talking about. Better performance (25% more power, 33% more peak torque), far better MPG, lighter. General torque curve means much more lower down power, so you have to work the gearbox less.
Hell, look at the current 1.6 Duratec engine, and convince someone to get that over the 1.0L.
If these engines were going pop at 50k I'd think you had a point, but they're not.
Fully synthetic is recommended by VW, with a 10k change interval. If you service it on their approved long life schedule it can go a fair way longer than that (~20k). Three months may be standard practice, but it's distinctly odd this side of the pond.
Which car are you referring to that needs 3 month oil changes? 1.4 TSI VW engine standard oil change interval is 10k miles. In the low tune version you get, achievable 40mpg, 122bhp, 148lbft. 60mph with no traffic, you get ~50mpg. No soot at all, exhaust clean as a whistle after 40k. Nicer to drive, and quieter than the equivalent diesel. Lower performance than that 2.0TDI, but quicker than the 1.6.
Does it matter that the engine lasts 600k miles when the car is typically scrapped well before that?
Companies maximise profit, and they influence politicians to get the loopholes they want to avoid paying tax. Your annoyance needs to be focussed on the politicians for doing this, not the companies, I agree. That doesn't mean you should feel good about companies lobbying and then using loopholes to avoid tax.
You obviously have the option of not using companies that behave in ways that you disapprove of. Don't like companies that don't pay a living wage? Boycott them. Don't like companies that go to extreme lengths to avoid tax? Don't buy from them. Don't want bonded labour to be used to make what you buy? Don't buy it.
If enough people behaved this way, companies would start to behave better. The reality is that people choose to not find out, or don't care, then buy the cheap thing off the shelf.
When you renew your insurance, do you get the cheapest, or the one that you trust to deal with you fairly when you actually need them? I think the majority pick the former. Does that mean they deserve to get screwed when they need them? I'd say no, but it doesn't necessarily encourage the industry to evolve in a good direction.
I'm not sure that's a sound argument. You should be checksumming such that you're confident that what you're doing is what you were asked to do, and working in transactions, such that if you've not received a whole command group, you're not running any of it. I'd think it was only in desperate circumstances you'd issues a command that says do this, or in fact do anything plausible if you don't fully receive this, because you're about to fly into something hard...
It happened to me with genuine products. Logitech keyboard/mouse that had a bluetooth receiver. Windows 7 decided it should have a new shiny bluetooth 3 driver installed for it which didn't work, which lost you access to the keyboard and mouse. Downgrade and pin, as you say, or disable the bluetooth entirely and have it act just as a keyboard/mouse.
Sure, but the smaller you go, the higher the ppi, and I'm just not feeling the benefit for most of the work I do. You're at 160ppi with a 28" screen, so end up scaling things up to make them a better size to use. At that point, yet you've got slightly nicer looking visuals, but not more lines of text. That said, the 28" you point to is a very attractive price, so you end up not having to argue for paying for 4k, as they're just a pair of reasonably priced 28" screens.
I can see road departments using the fact that the cars can drive around potholes to ignore them for even longer than they do now. Roads will become undriveable for humans ;)
But the argument you're making is for screen real estate there. A pair of Dell 27" 110dpi 2560x1440 IPS monitors for £800 for me is probably of more interest than a 4k 32" screen. 50% more area, at a DPI that's adequate, for slightly less than a decent 32" 4k screen costs. Having used the Dell 32" 4k screen, I couldn't convince myself that the DPI was doing me any favours in normal work.
That's not true. Companies charge what the market can bear, and if they had lower taxes, they'd mostly just reap higher margins. Do you really think Apples prices would significantly rise if their tax burden went up? That's certainly not true of all markets.
"Free at point of use" is quite a dull phrase to litter a post with.
In an ideal world, the electorate can deal with the immoral government, and the government can deal with the immoral company by making their actions illegal (if indeed it's the will of the people to crack down on immoral activity).
I'm not arguing that they should be punished for being immoral, but long term, they probably *should* expect the law to stop treating them so favourably.
If you think the government gives you nothing back, you're right to be annoyed. I get free health care, free education, free social care, a welfare system to look out for me if I'm in trouble, a pension when I got old (perhaps). I get police to keep things in order and try to make sure that I get to keep what's left of what I earn, and a fire brigade to look out for me. An ambulance that'll take me to hospital if that doesn't pan out. I get money channelled into research no company would have an interest in pursuing, but that makes people's lives better. I get roads to drive and walk down, and parks to take my kids to. I get playgrounds and lakes. I get food that doesn't kill me, and toys that don't hurt my kids. I get a computer that doesn't injure me.
But yeah, down with the government.
Your definition of not hurting anyone is fairly important though. I think in this case, the company *and* the government could be morally but not legally in the wrong. They transferring money from the government to their own bank account. If you pretend for a minute that the government does things that are good for the people, then they're preventing some of this from happening.
In itself, that's just a race to the bottom on corporation tax. Then you find rich people earn nothing and simply channel all their funds through companies... oh wait.
Actually starting the car is far less likely in newer cars, because whilst the number of key combinations are small, the number of key transponders is not.
If you're just wanting to learn MPI, then a regular multicore PC/laptop is perfectly fine, since it's basically a tiny HPC with a very fast interconnect. If you have access to more than one machine, even better, as you've then got two machines connected with a slow interconnect, so you properly feel the pain of communication costs, and how to distribute your workload best.
Judaism has the same fundamental conflict with Chrstianity, but we get by. But then to be honest, we get by pretty well with Islam too.
I'd hate for all Christians to be tarred with the brush of the worst, as much as I'd hate the same for Muslims, or indeed any group. The problem with the majority of Muslims is... there really isn't one. It's no more true than me saying that the problem with most Americans is that they're gun toting, pie eating idiots.
Judaism also says that Jesus was not the son of God, yet are you making the same argument there?
I'd read that the roads really aren't what they used to be. Germany has been great at limiting spending and running a surplus, but it's really starting to bite now, with German infrastructure looking frankly British ;)
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpb...
There's one junction I know of, where you can't see the exit is clear if you turn left at a crossroad because of buildings and the white line being a long way back. As a result you honestly can't know for sure the exit is clear when you go. At least with the daily mail example, you have the option of not doing it, although depending on the cycle of the lights you may never progress...
Honestly, the Leeds outer ring road does; I'm sure there are lots of others.