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Samsung Cripples Windows Update To Prevent Incompatible Drivers
jones_supa writes: A file called Disable_Windowsupdate.exe — probably malware, right? It's actually a "helper" utility from Samsung, for which their reasoning is: "When you enable Windows updates, it will install the Default Drivers for all the hardware no laptop which may or may not work. For example if there is USB 3.0 on laptop, the ports may not work with the installation of updates. So to prevent this, SW Update tool will prevent the Windows updates." Too bad that the solution means disabling all critical security updates as well. This isn't the first time an OEM has compromised the security of its users. From earlier this year, we remember the Superfish adware from Lenovo, and system security being compromised by the LG split screen software.
You've got to be fucking shitting me?
- Dan
Samsung: You're terrible programmers!
Microsoft: No, you are terrible programmers!
Kids, kids, you'really both terrible.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
So, basically they have shit hardware or shit drivers, and the only way they can think of to fix this is to prevent your operating system from trying to apply updates?
This sounds like incompetence all the way around, and is on-going proof of why I hate OEM laptops. Because they fill them with so much garbage.
It seems like every time I hear anything about Samsung, I find myself thinking "nope, I would never buy their crap".
And, once again, corporations put their own crappy "innovation" ahead of the needs of their customers.
Pathetic.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
If true then I guess I won't be buying any Samsung computers anytime soon. A company that stupid simply isn't worth doing business with. Add this to the Samsung TVs that listen to your living room and the bloatware on their Android devices and I pretty much can't see any reason to buy from Samsung these days.
Needs to continue building the Surface Pro and expanding the line. Half of the problem with Windows is really OEMs and their crappy drivers, bloatware, and garbage like this.
If I allow Windows Update to "update" the driver for my Bluetooth stick, it doesn't work any longer.
Samsung has a depressingly long history of compromising security through stupid, last-minute hacks.
Yes, this is ugly situation, but I am curious if this is caused by non-compliant hardware or driver's issue?
*cough*
Seriously?! If this is a dealbreaker issue for someone, which OEM should I recommend if people are looking to buy new laptops?
This is not malicious. It is stupid and ignorant, but not malicious.
This reminds me of when someone got Verisign to issue a signed certificate saying "microsoft.com". Clearly Verisign, and not MS's, fault.
It turned out Microsoft could not issue a revocation, because Internet explorer does not check CRLs. MS's fault, right? Wrong. They were not testing CRLs because verisign would not bring up the web server that issues them, causing each and every SSL connection to time out. MS preferred, reasonably IMHO, to be insecure over not working.
Shachar
Disabling windows update - at least automatically - is a good idea.
It kept installing that reminder about Windows 10 coming soon.
I don't want Windows 10 - I hear it disables some critical software (Solitaire)
Samsung makes computers?
Thought they just made phones and TV's and other gadgets. News to me, for sure.
I've lost track of how many times I've been burned by a driver update from Microsoft that turned out to be incompatible with my hardware, likely because Windows Update misidentified my hardware as compatible with the driver. I no longer install any drivers through Windows Update, but instead go to the vendors sites and get them straight from the source.
Fortunately, the drivers are always optional updates, so you can just flag them as hidden and ignore them.
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
I've had bad days when Windows decided it knew better about video drivers than a popular GPU vendor, and I ended up in a BSOD loop. I had to go into safe mode and roll back updates before I could get the thing to cooperate.
I accidentally all the hardware no laptop.
But Microsoft is the one who dictates what technology Samsung must play nice with...
The difficulty is first with Microsoft, and Samsung's 'fix' wouldn't be necessary without it.
This isn't the first time an OEM has compromised the security of its users.
Blame has to go to Microsoft *first*...it's illogical to blame the cart for something the horse chose to do.
Thank you Dave Raggett
^ do not feed
You know, or you could save your work instead of just leaving it open forever and hoping the computer doesn't shut down or restart for some reason.
... as soon as I finish installing my pirated copy of Windows.
That problem pretty much died with Windows XP. I can't remember the last time I saw anything like that and I install and update Windows on a very diverse set of hardware all the time (read: I work for an MSP.)
I still run Windows XP SP2 on most of my systems, no other updates... If it's not a remote exploit bug it's not an issue for me(not using IE6 etc). Ditto with my one newer Windows install(8.1 w/bing) first thing I did was disable Windows Updates,(and metro, defender, and lots of other filler).. IMO the real security risk is programs/utils that can dl and self-update/execute remote code.
Once a year or two I run/install anti-virus and am always clear... Man are systems more 'peppy' without all the added checks/file filters etc.
I'm trying to calculate just how much Kool-Aid you have to drink until "the OS decided to reboot all on its own" becomes acceptable behavior.
I've lost track of how many times I've been burned by a driver update from Microsoft that turned out to be incompatible with my hardware
That's odd. The last time I had such troubles was around Windows XP and I fiddle with a lot of different computers and setups.
It would've been far simpler and less controversial for Samsung to just turn off the Windows 8/10 equivalent of Windows 7's "[right click on your computer's icon]->Device Installation settings->Do you want Windows to download driver software and realistic icons for your devices" option in the "Devices and Drivers" control panel and provide their own "driver update" program. I don't have a Samsung, for all I know, they may already have a "driver update" program. I know at least 2 major Windows-PC vendors do have their own "update" programs that include alerting users when their drivers are out of date, and it wouldn't surprise me if Samsung was doing the same.
Given what Samsung is doing, if Samsung provides its own "Samsung Update" that (by default) automatically takes all critical Microsoft Updates and which at least gives the user the option of taking vetted non-critical updates (or even better all Windows updates EXCEPT conflicting driver updates) AND keeps this running as long as Microsoft continues to allow access to its "Windows Update" functionality (which is presumably longer than the "10 years" it promises to keep fixing security holes) then I can see this being "not all that dangerous." However, if they do this they need to make it VERY clear to the buyer that Samsung, not Microsoft, is taking responsibility for keeping the operating system up to date.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Unfortunately, not all driver updates fall under the optional updates. I agree that most are, but I had a client come to me saying his wireless driver was "missing". It was installed, but non-functional. Oddly, it didn't show a "failed to start" yellow triangle or any other anomalies in the device manager. I rolled back the driver and checked Windows Update to find an "Intel Centrino Wireless-N" critical update. It kept installing automatically until I hid the update. It is rare that this happens, but does from time-to-time.
And to think, their hardware is still better than most out there.
If there hardware requires weird non-standard drivers and disabling updates to work then it is by definition crap hardware. Maybe the hardware is fine and they are incompetent at software but that is not the most likely explanation. There would be no reason to disable Windows Update if the hardware worked as expected.
They still get the fewest complaints on NewEgg for much of their stuff for a reason.
Popularity and an alleged low number of complaints on NewEgg hardly constitutes proof of quality. If we are going by anecdotes the few pieces of Samsung hardware I've owned have been pretty much crap. Does that mean all Samsung products are junk? Of course not. But when I hear about them doing something so obviously stupid as disabling the standard OS update because it doesn't work with their hardware then I regard that as prima-facie evidence that their products are crap.
I bought a Samsung laptop. i5, 6gb ram, Hybrid NVIDIA and Intel graphics, 750gb HDD, DVD burner. It is light, well powered and cost efficient back in 2011. Windows 7-64 bit. Problem is: Even the keyboard hotkeys such as screen brightness, WiFi, etc. work only through a "Control panel" that takes ages to load. Volume keys don't work within a game and sometimes the trackpad stops working after sleeping. And also I don't dare installing Linux on it because I read about severe cases of linux bricking the UEFI and rendering the laptop completerly useless.
Alas, after you start it up (either from off or sleeping) and wait the 10-15 minutes for the HDD to calm down (after stripping down the startup, defragmenting, ccleaner and the such) it runs really well.
Enabling automatic updates is a greater security threat than not updating your OS at all.
The risk of data loss due to sudden unwanted restarts is far greater and more real than having an OS that is 2 days out of date
Well, no, because you can configure automatic updates to happen but not reboot if there's a logged-on user. It definitely should be easier to do than it currently is (group policy or registry edit) - but then again if you're posting on /. and don't know how to do this you probably shouldn't be talking about the comparative danger of secuirty threats :P
Disabling windows update - at least automatically - is a good idea.
Maybe for a corporation with an IT staff. If you are like me and have to support small numbers of technologically illiterate people then automatic updates are a blessing. Otherwise those machines would literally never get updated. Ever.
Though honestly as the designated family techie the best thing (for my sanity) I ever did was move my parents to Apple products. Not so much because I think they are inherently better but they do result in less tech support problems (for me) and I got them support contracts (1on1 and Applecare) so Apple can and does deal with the majority of their technical issues rather than me. When my dad was on Windows I'd get at least 2-3 calls a month about something not working. Now I get maybe 1 call every 6 months and it's usually much easier to resolve.
I'm trying to calculate just how much cheap moonshine you have to drink until a prompt where the computer asks if you want to reboot now, or not counts as "the OS decided to reboot all on its own".
Two weeks ago, a Windows automatically "updated" the drivers for the Elan touchpad of my Win 8 Samsung laptop, and the result was very annoying to recover from, because it disabled both the internal keypad, the keyboard and any USB keyboard or mouse that I connected to it. In the end I had to rely on the touch interface to enable remote desktop to be able to work and recover the laptop and undo the changes, and I disabled any update that was not security related.
Windows should not attempt to update drivers on its own. Why fix what isn't broken?
Linux might have some slight incompatiblity with an ever shrinking list of now obscure hardware. But when it works, it works. There is nothing this fucked up about linux drives. At worst, a few of them simply don't have the features we'd like, but nothing catastrophic.
Years ago I learned never to trust MS with hardware updates. Don't know how many times a graphic card or lan update from them pretty much disabled the graphics card or lan.
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Paraphrasing: "Our hardware identifies itself as X, but it's actually Y. When Windows attempts to install OEM supplied and validated drivers for X, the drivers can't drive Y, so the hardware stops working."
I could have sworn MS had some way for OEMs to get drivers certified, and provided by Windows Update directly...
- chrish
Surely there must be a way to have avoided this.
Maybe Microsoft should set up some kind of... Lab. To certify the Quality of Hardware for Windows. And maybe they could make it really simple for vendors like Samsung to send them copies of drivers for certification so that Windows Update would be aware that they existed.
And maybe, instead of demanding millions of dollars in fees for this service, they could charge something simple up front like just $250 and then not cause any more problems. Then Samsung would have been able to run through a quick certification process and avoided all of this trouble.
Man, why does Microsoft make it so hard for vendors to get their devices supported?
That would be when you click the "No, not now! I'm in the middle of giving a presentation to the board!" button, and then it responds with "Well, FINE. I'm tired of waiting and next time I WON'T ASK YOU."
Or when you don't respond quickly enough and it takes your lack of response as consent.
And then it decides to reboot on its own.
I should save my VMs and shut them down when I'm not directly monitoring the screen of my host OS to catch a random reboot due to updates every once in a while?
Boy, this takes the cake.
It's the other way around. The hardware says, "I'm this," and the driver installer says, "Okay, I trust you." It should be something more than a gentleman's agreement, but hardware vendors will cut corners wherever possible to increase margins.
This is not malicious. It is stupid and ignorant, but not malicious.
Sufficiently large values of stupidity asymptotically approach maliciousness. In other words if the action is dumb enough there is no effective difference.
KB666FuckSamsung: Includes Remove_Disable_Windowsupdate.exe
the problem is that windows update restarts while i am doing my work. imagine i'm writing a text. i finished typing a word. i want to press the spacebar now so i can write the next word. In that moment, windows update dialog pops up, steals focus, preselects the "yes restart now" button. all this while my thumb is still on its way to the spacebar, still now knowing that windows update just opened a focus-staling dialog, i press the spacebar. for the fraction of a second, i see something pop up. a moment later, everything closes.
Brilliant! Use a HOSTS file to block the offending updates!
Yeah, I'm rather sympathetic with Samsung here. The actual problem is with idiotic updates that break all the stuff you've finally got fixed from the last time an update broke it.
An update should fix the stuff that's broken, not break the stuff that's fixed.
http://www.geoffreylandis.com
Enabling automatic updates is a greater security threat than not updating your OS at all.
The risk of data loss due to sudden unwanted restarts is far greater and more real than having an OS that is 2 days out of date
Strictly speaking risk of data loss due ti restarts is not itself a security threat.
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
If really worried, do your work in a VM and have something like AutoProtect in VMWare Workstation save a snapshot every few hours. If you go home, find the VM rebooted, it isn't tough to go back to a point in time before the reboot, save one's work then reboot.
If the host machine reboots, it will just suspend the VM before the reboot, so unless one is running an item in real time, the RPO is 0 and RTO is just getting the VM turned back on.
Another option is using WSUS. I have it configured to auto-approve all patches, but if one wants to take the risk at delaying being patched, no machines will reboot until you tell it to.
Finally, you can always set Windows Update to notify you about updates, so you don't get any reboots until you push the button.
No, it isn't fun rebooting, especially when one has been in IT long enough to be proud of system uptimes, but better a low uptime than hacked box, so patches are a necessary evil.
I'm trying to calculate just how much cheap moonshine you have to drink until a prompt where the computer asks if you want to reboot now, or not counts as "the OS decided to reboot all on its own".
Microsoft update WILL reboot on its own. It'll pester you for a few days then it literally reboots your computer without giving you a choice.
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
Enabling automatic updates is a greater security threat than not updating your OS at all. The risk of data loss due to sudden unwanted restarts is far greater and more real than having an OS that is 2 days out of date
Your OS subjects you to sudden, unwanted restarts?!?
Switch to OS X to fix that problem.
You know, or you could save your work instead of just leaving it open forever and hoping the computer doesn't shut down or restart for some reason.
Or you could just use OS X with its built-in AutoSave and "Auto Resume" features.
I had to disable some drivers from updating to keep my computer running. The drivers installed automatically were not only older, they didn't work for my configuration. For most end users an automatically installed update making their computer non-bootable is a huge problem.
That said there have to be a better way to do this, what about a mechanism where an OEM can declare some drivers untouchable for Windows update? Or even making the hardware manufacturers/device driver writers use the existing hardware detecting mechanisms correctly?
Or, much more important than presentation to the board, you are tanking a World of Warcraft raid and it simply reboots, because the dialogue box doesn't show when running a game in full screen.
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WQHL is another walled garden. A lot of vendor's don't like the Ts&Cs that MSFT has put forward for WQHL certification. Yes, it's sub-optimal but if you're dealing in Windows Drivers, it's the road you must travel on.
If only MSFT would make WQHL certification easier then you'd see more vendors jumping on the bandwagon and having their updates distributed through Windows Update.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
Or a slight variation :
you want to boot your laptop for a presentation in front of a few hundred people.
It's 8:50 in the morning, your presentation is at 9:00.
You get a nice blue screen that tells you "Please wait till 30 updates are installed". Then you get "Please wait till 200000 files are updated".
It often takes more than 30 minutes to do so.
The ACTUAL solution to this is for Samsung to stop buying hardware components from vendors that submit non-working drivers to Microsoft for inclusion in Windows Updates.
"I just reply to you when I see you spamming Slashdot with your nonsense"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
Why'd you agree w/ my points on hosts then? Quoting you here:
"I'm not denying all those things" - by dave420 (699308) on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @11:39AM (#47927435) FROM -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Of course you're not: It's impossible to dispute FACT on HOSTS FILES superiority to other methods!
Since my points of fact in favor of hosts SINGLE FILE native kernelmode faster part show hosts doing more, with less, vs. so-called 'competitors' many part messagepassing + other overheads laden slower usermode FAR MORE COMPLEX 'solutions' doing less than hosts do for more security, speed, reliability, + anonymity online!
I make creating a superior more efficient solution EASIER!
(Which is more than a mere trolling stalking harassing "ne'er-do-well" like yourself could *EVER* manage).
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"I'm simply pointing out that it takes an AdBlocker to block your spamming"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
Then WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT & use 'em? Answer that!
(You stalk/harass me instead!)
I bother you? Use them!
OBVIOUSLY, you don't & you're just a "ne'er-do-well" troll, OR you have "other motivations" (see next):
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* QUESTION:
DO YOU WORK FOR AN ADVERTISING FIRM, or ARE YOU A WEBMASTER/WEBCODER http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , or ARE YOU A MALWARE MAKER, or ARE YOU AFFILIATED WITH 1 OF MY COMPETITORS?
Answer that!
No, instead as per your usual, you'll avoid every question, or lie!
(You can't EVER "get the best of me" & you know it, witness the above - & their "so-called 'solutions' are INFERIOR TO MINE on TONS of levels, OR YOU'D USE THEM, merely evidencing their stupidity in & of itself via inferior designwork & YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED as to your "true motives" in that last link above!)
APK
P.S.=> SEE Dave420 SQUIRM - evasions galore from him will ensue, guaranteed... apk
Driver updates offered via Windows Update are always listed as "optional". Even with automatic updates enabled they would have to be chosen manually before they would be installed. On top of that, it would be easy to uninstall such an update via "Progams and Features" in Control Panel, or to click on "Roll Back Driver" in Device Manager.
Disabling updates to prevent bad driver installations is both misguided and unnecessary.
"I just reply to you when I see you spamming Slashdot with your nonsense"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
Why'd you agree w/ my points on hosts then? Quoting you here:
"I'm not denying all those things" - by dave420 (699308) on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @11:39AM (#47927435) FROM -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Of course you're not: It's impossible to dispute FACT on HOSTS FILES superiority to other methods!
Since my points of fact in favor of hosts SINGLE FILE native kernelmode faster part show hosts doing more, with less, vs. so-called 'competitors' many part messagepassing + other overheads laden slower usermode FAR MORE COMPLEX 'solutions' doing less than hosts do for more security, speed, reliability, + anonymity online!
I make creating a superior more efficient solution EASIER!
(Which is more than a mere trolling stalking harassing "ne'er-do-well" like yourself could *EVER* manage).
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"I'm simply pointing out that it takes an AdBlocker to block your spamming"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
Then WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT & use 'em? Answer that!
(You stalk/harass me instead!)
I bother you? Use them!
OBVIOUSLY, you don't & you're just a "ne'er-do-well" troll, OR you have "other motivations" (see next):
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* QUESTION:
DO YOU WORK FOR AN ADVERTISING FIRM, or ARE YOU A WEBMASTER/WEBCODER http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , or ARE YOU A MALWARE MAKER, or ARE YOU AFFILIATED WITH 1 OF MY COMPETITORS?
Answer that!
No, instead as per your usual, you'll avoid every question, or lie!
(You can't EVER "get the best of me" & you know it, witness the above - & their "so-called 'solutions' are INFERIOR TO MINE on TONS of levels, OR YOU'D USE THEM, merely evidencing their stupidity in & of itself via inferior designwork & YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED as to your "true motives" in that last link above!)
APK
P.S.=> SEE Dave420 SQUIRM - evasions galore from him will ensue, guaranteed... apk
Back when the (then) newest version of Windows would reboot when there was a problem instead of giving you a BSOD with the option to kill whatever caused it and try to continue, I had a friend who was a senior developer. He actually insisted that if something went badly wrong, he wanted his computer to reboot right then and there. He didn't care what program had crashed, he didn't want a chance to save his work, he just wanted it to reboot without asking. I never did understand his attitude, but I can only guess that a lot of people must have shared it because there wasn't the type of mass protest that I would have expected. Clearly, when it comes to Windows, spontaneous rebooting has been acceptable behavior for decades.
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Three reasons HP Printers are no longer recommended:
1. No longer quality printers. All the older printers (including a craaaazy old- HP LaserJet 5MP from 1995) that I've had from them are still going. New ones I've had to replace fairly soon after their warranty expires. It's almost like they countdown to expire.
2. Require HP official supplies (chipped supplies) and planned expiration... you need to buy a new fuser after x number of prints regardless if it's still working fine.
3. Lousy support. Had a new mulit-function printer that wasn't fully supported by the new OS's at the time. Old OS drivers okay... new drivers supported only printing! WTF!? That's 'supporting' a multi-function printer?! Scanning and faxing from desktop just goes away because they are too lazy and want you to buy one of their new printers. Ugh.
Obv. been burned by them pretty badly... not going back.
Posting Anon to keep mods.
Microsoft needs to totally change their attitude on this one and apply the appropriate pressure to OEMs to make this work properly. This is a festering sore, and until Microsoft lays down the law both in physically stopping this kind of shit in software as well as making their terms and conditions with OEMs air tight, their reputation will continue to be trashed, and their market share will continue to bleed to Apple.
"I just reply to you when I see you spamming Slashdot with your nonsense"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
Why'd you agree w/ my points on hosts then? Quoting you here:
"I'm not denying all those things" - by dave420 (699308) on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @11:39AM (#47927435) FROM -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Of course you're not: It's impossible to dispute FACT on HOSTS FILES superiority to other methods!
Since my points of fact in favor of hosts SINGLE FILE native kernelmode faster part show hosts doing more, with less, vs. so-called 'competitors' many part messagepassing + other overheads laden slower usermode FAR MORE COMPLEX 'solutions' doing less than hosts do for more security, speed, reliability, + anonymity online!
I make creating a superior more efficient solution EASIER!
(Which is more than a mere trolling stalking harassing "ne'er-do-well" like yourself could *EVER* manage).
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"I'm simply pointing out that it takes an AdBlocker to block your spamming"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
Then WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT & use 'em? Answer that!
(You stalk/harass me instead!)
I bother you? Use them!
OBVIOUSLY, you don't & you're just a "ne'er-do-well" troll, OR you have "other motivations" (see next):
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* QUESTION:
DO YOU WORK FOR AN ADVERTISING FIRM, or ARE YOU A WEBMASTER/WEBCODER http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , or ARE YOU A MALWARE MAKER, or ARE YOU AFFILIATED WITH 1 OF MY COMPETITORS?
Answer that!
No, instead as per your usual, you'll avoid every question, or lie!
(You can't EVER "get the best of me" & you know it, witness the above - & their "so-called 'solutions' are INFERIOR TO MINE on TONS of levels, OR YOU'D USE THEM, merely evidencing their stupidity in & of itself via inferior designwork & YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED as to your "true motives" in that last link above!)
APK
P.S.=> SEE Dave420 SQUIRM - evasions galore from him will ensue, guaranteed... apk
die
"Eating YOUR words", dumbass -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
* YOU ONLY DID THAT TO YOURSELF, starting it here today, AND in the past where I got that quote of your dumb ass too!
APK
P.S.=> Keep talking - Learn some manners though! It's NOT polite talking with your mouth FULL as you "EAT YOUR WORDS" flavored with the BITTER taste of SELF-DEFEAT + your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH ramming them down, spiced with YOUR own "special brand" of STUPID - but perhaps most of all? "EATING YOUR WORDS != Good Nutrition, fool, lol... apk
The real problem is that the systems contain hardware that isn't compatible with the standard Windows drivers yet is still showing up in a way that Windows will think it is and will pull drivers via Windows Update.
USB (even USB 3.0) is a documented standard that is supported out-of-the-box by Windows (and is likely part of the Intel chip-set they are using in the laptop), why would it need special drivers?
"I just reply to you when I see you spamming Slashdot with your nonsense"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
Why'd you agree w/ my points on hosts then? Quoting you:
"I'm not denying all those things" - by dave420 (699308) on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @11:39AM (#47927435) FROM -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Of course not: It's impossible to dispute HOSTS FILES superiority to other methods!
Since my points in favor of hosts SINGLE FILE native kernelmode faster part show hosts doing more w/ less vs. so-called 'competitors' many part messagepassing + cpu/ram use overheads laden slower usermode FAR MORE COMPLEX 'solutions' doing less than hosts do for more security, speed, reliability, + anonymity!
I make creating a superior more efficient solution EASIER!
(That's more than a mere trolling stalking harassing "ne'er-do-well" like yourself could *EVER* manage).
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"I'm simply pointing out that it takes an AdBlocker to block your spamming"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
I bother you? Then WHY DON'T YOU DO IT & use 'em? Answer that!
(You stalk/harass me instead!)
OBVIOUSLY you don't & you're a "ne'er-do-well" troll & you have "other motivations" (next):
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* QUESTION:
DO YOU WORK FOR AN ADVERTISING FIRM, or ARE YOU A WEBMASTER/WEBCODER http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , or a MALWARE MAKER, or ARE YOU AFFILIATED WITH 1 OF MY COMPETITORS?
Answer it!
As per your usual you'll avoid every question, or lie!
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(You can't EVER "get the best of me": You know it! Witness above - your "so-called 'solutions' = INFERIOR TO HOSTS on TONS of levels OR You'd USE 'EM - Evidencing stupidity in & of itself via inferior designwork + your REFUSAL to use 'em despite your statements & YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED in your "motives" in the last link!)
APK
P.S.=> SEE Dave420 SQUIRM - evasions galore will ensue (as well as effete downmods to *try* vainly "hide it" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )... apk
Apk sure got a piece of you didn't he dave420 sockpuppet?
If they're disabling automatic updates entirely they are morons. The option to disable driver updates has existed at least since Windows 7. For 8.1 here's a simple howto.
There's probably some registry setting that is equivalent but I can't be bothered to go look for it now. Samsung _should_ have had no trouble figure that one out though.
or linux, my PC is a tool not a toy
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
Oh come now! We're talking about people who believe receiving a call on their little pocket phones and waiting a full minute for the damn thing to boot up is acceptable. We have taken a giant leap backwards from the 'instant on' TV that is still the pinnacle of high technology to this day. Hell, even our light bulbs have to warm up now! How insane all this! The drivers are supposed to be in the fucking hardware already loaded in its non-volatile memory waiting for a 'print' command!
Two words: power cuts.
Maybe they never happen to you, but if you lived in some goshforsaken third-world hellhole like here in Auckland, you'd know never to assume that your computer won't suddenly lose all its state without any warning or permission on your part.
or linux, my PC is a tool not a toy
That's a Shame. My PC is a Tool when I need, and a Toy when I want.
Mine runs Unix. Yours doesn't.
But just remember: You started it.
That moment when people are so accustomed to a 'feature' taking over control of their device and taking away their authority that they see a comment criticizing this behavior as 'trolling'
I have never, ever had a driver update from Windows Update break a single piece of software. Never.
All they needed to do is make sure that their certified drivers are slipstreamed into any updates and not just the MS generic ones.
Paul E. Bahre
it would be very nice if Windows stopped insisting that its driver for "Unknown Device" is up to date, at newest version and doesn't need to be replaced by another driver supplied by the manufacturer. Once new hardware in Windows is recognized as "Unknown Device" it's about impossible to convince Windows to change it to something more reasonable. Remove the hardware, wipe all traces of its past existence from system, install the correct drivers and only then install the hardware.
Seriously, Microsoft, the first this issue appeared was Windows 95. And it still persists!
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Tells us, omniweasel:
* HOW'S IT TASTE "EATING YOUR WORDS" flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH ramming them down spiced with the BITTER TASTE of SELF-DEFEAT"?
LMAO...
APK
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LMAO @ U, "omniloser"... apk
i dont know if its a jke or not but i heard some guy saying he didnt want 10 anyways because it deisables critical software like solitare?lol solitaire isnt critical and solitaires included as a microsoft solitaire collection with a slew of different solitaires O.o. samsung products are actually hrrible imho.take the samsung 6 phone
i know someone that had that and it was not only buggy but laggy as all heck.msi asus are great computers amd is the best prcessor unless you have an i7 those are pretty nice in comparrison.samsung is the new compaq trying t babyfy and take away rights
I can completely understand the logic behind this decision on Samsung's part: my new Lenovo laptop was swiftly rendered unable to connect to the internet because of incompatible driver issues after a cumulative update. My current workaround is to retire the Windows8 system and run linux from a usb.