A while ago debian/iunstable did nuke the pam libraries, so you couldn't login, yes.
This did not require a reinstall. I heard you could've started in single-user mode, but I just went with "init=/bin/bash" at the LILO: prompt - and there you go. Logged in as root on your machine. Then you remount root sa read-write (mount -oremount,rw/), mount the other dirs that might get updated (/var,/usr etc) and run apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade.
Ok, so I had an unusable machine for a day. Luckily I noticed this on the non-vital machine first. (:
In the Olden Days, before I was knew enough about UNIX, I used to work as a programmer. The first place I worked at, we used Microsoft Basic Development System 7.0.
Imagine QBASIC's bigger, stronger brother. On steroids. I later moved on to use Turbo Pascal (also 7.0, hmmm), and I can tell you, other than OOP there's really nothing PASCAL had on this thing, power-wise.
MSBDS had an amazingly good IDE, had libraries/units/header files (forgot what they're called), no stupid line numbers, you could stick assembly in the BASIC 'code', had libraries that delivered the equivalent of TurboVision (mouse/windows/menubars/etc).
I think all those DOS-mode programming languages died out and were reborn as Windows-based languages. Turbo Pascal is Delphi, QBASIC is Visual Basic, etc.
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I'm sorry if I sound harsh with regard to the palestenians. I guess I just got so tired of the anti-Israeli propaganda that I came on a little strong.
When I, personally think about Palestenians, I do not think in anger or contempt or hatered, but in sorrow. A few posts above I describe how the situation was when I was groing up (20-20 years ago). Palestenians amongst Israelies were a common sight. We'd just come out of the last war, and people were starting to trust each other.
How it all exploded I do not know. I was too young.
As for what the situation is like. Well, I haven't been to Israel for three years, and the popular outlook seems to have changed since then, largely due to terrorism (witness Sharon being elected prime minister, replacing the peace-oriented government before him).
I always assumed most people, Israelies and Palestenians, want peace, want to simply be allowed to live their lives in peace and understanding. However, there are evildoers and war-mongers on both sides. Dissidents who cry War, Destruction, never forgive. These people get through to the easily influenced, and I'm afraid to say it looks like that's a lot easier to do in the Palestenian side. You could not easily convince an Israeli teenager to go blow himself up in a Palestenian marketplace because then he'll get 7 Maidens in Heaven. But you can teach him to fear and hate. And sooner or later he's going to be issued a uniform and rifle and given training and permission to use it.
I also believe now there cannot be Peace as long as Arafat speaks for the Palestenians. The Israeli government is less of an issue since that can get replaced on a regular basis - and hopefully the next one will be a peace-oriented one. I used to give Arafat the benefit of the doubt, but he's proven to be unwilling or unable to control terrorism.
Again, both sides have their assortment of noisy MORONS who do not want peace, because they don't know what a real war is. I'm personally content not to find out. I'm certain that if there was some soft of infrastructure (read: internet access) where YOUTHS from both sides could meet and talk, there would be a much better understanding. The war is caused by Old People who don't even remember what they're fighting for.
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Before Israel was declared by the UN as the New Jewish Homeland, it was part of the British empire. Therefore I assume you are refering to The British.
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but it seems to me that an ultimatum like that makes peace very difficult.
Perhaps it does, but there was really no choice at the time.
While our leaders were engaged in peace-talks, Israeli citizens were being killed by the scores in terrorist attacks. I personally was narrowly missed - twice! - by an exploding bus, and once by a suicide bomber. Granted, that might not exactly be avarage, but still.
Can you imagine public opinion, when our side gives in to many, many demands and makes a HELL of a lot of gestures of good faith (read above re: Palestenian autonimy and arming PA poloce force etc), and their side won't even stop killing us? There comes a point where negotiations are moot.
As for Jerusalem... the Palestenians have no claim to it. It is Jordan who has a legitimate claim, and Jordan never asked for it back. And if they really want to play the We Were Here First game, the Jewish people have at least 3000 years of historical connection to Jerusalem.
Now I personally am MORE than willing to share. I really have no problem with Muslims praying at holy sites in Jerusalem. When I was a kid, there were quite a few Palestenians around our neighbourhood. Nobody minded. There was one guy, Daud (sp?) who worked as a gardener in my neighbourhood. All the kids loved him. He used to always bring us fresh fruit from his village, was pretty much welcome in peoples' appartments, and you could see the happiness in his eyes when he saw children play.
How we (collectivally as a Human Race) let the situation deteriorate to the utter mess it is now is beyond me.
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For the record, I am a citizen of Israel, but have been living in the USA for three years. Probably become a citizen soon if I feel like it.
Media coverage of the middle-east situation is horrible, biased and very, very one-sided. I've even heard a reported on NPR comment that "...it's hard to sympathise with the three Israeli teenagers who were clubbed to death."
Israel's so-called military and racist actions are all in response to terrorism - suicide bombers blowing up school busses, streets crowded with children, etc.
In the past, palestenians have complained about mistreatment and such, and went on a terror spree for years. Israel's response was giving them autonomy, helping the PLO (a known and established terrorist group!) transition into the Palestenian Authority, and pump money into the PA to help them develop. Israel also supplied the PA police force with weapons.
The current mideast crisis started about a year ago, when the PA was well established, Israel had a pro-peace government, and it looked like there might be peace at long last.
Then an Israeli official visited a site that's holy to both Islam and Judaism. This is what sparked the whole affair. I will repeat this, because it's important.
The current Palestenian terrorism was all sparked by an Israeli official visiting a Holy site, holy to both Jewdaism and Islam. They claim he visited, and thus desecrated the muslim part. Their response to this was not a formal comlpaint, not simple outrage, not anything within reason. They broke into the jewish site, killed people, ripped up holy books, and basically wrecked the place. Basically they started rioting, with the PA police force armed by the Israeli governemnt doing absolutely nothing to stop the riots. In fact, they were shooting at the Israeli forces who were forced to come in and take care of the rioters, who were threatening Israeil citizens.
Point is, Israel went above and beyond what anyone would have imagined a few years ago to solve the terrorist problem in a peaceful way - granting the PA autonomic control of the so-called Occupied Territories. The PA may have tried to make it work for a while - but couls not control the HAMAS and HIZBULLA. Eventually they stopped trying to cnotrol them. Now the PA is basically a launching ground for terrorism.
Despite this, Israel has acted with restraint - trying to deter terrorists rather than all-out military action. Ironically this is largely due to US demands.
And don't assume Israel's just taking your tax-money and giving nothing back. Go ask Intel how much of their tech was developed in their Israeli labs. A lot of high-tech stuff originates from Israel.
Really? I had problems using anything except a SUN keyboard on the 'blade 100. Well, any keyboard works, really, except at boot time, where the 'blade won't see any keyboard except SUN's... meaning it'll go to serial console unless the SUN keyboard is plugged in. Does the 'blade 1000 not have this problem?
Yes, you're right, point taken. I give into the temptation for once and semi-trolled.
The thing is, I don't really have anything against Anime, I don't expect people to have the same likes/dislikes as me. What I do have a BIt of a problem with is CmdrTaco going totally nuts over the smallest, most trivial Anime news he ever comes across. That's who "Get Over It" is addressed to, him and that specific thing. Why did he bother starting Anime-Fu if he's going to stick the Anime stuff here anyway?
Yeah, haven't updated that in a while. To my defense, there's also pictures of me, my wife and other things family/friends have asked me to put pictures of.
I know I was overreacting a bit, I'm just so sick of Anime news. Yes, I know I can tell slashdot to ignore it.
I figured it's a hacked kernel. In the meantime mine's actually running some solaris-only stuff, so I'll stick with it, but maybe I'll get another one for games.
The one advantage a 'Blade has over an Ultra5 is that it has a 24-bit graphics card by default. So if you're going to use a head on it, it's actually not as painful.
I tried it. My reason was Because It's There. I tried Red Hat, debian and SuSE, none of them could even boot.
I Emailed one of the Debian/SPARC developers and offered my help, and got a slightly impolite "Why don't you sit down, shut up and wait for us to do it, eh?"
Ok, as people pointed out, IDE performance is complete and utter CRAP, so any disk IO is s-l-o-w. I suppose you can stick a SCSI card in it.
The other problem I had with them. Hmm. We got several of them at work, and this one guy's 'blade dies one day. I open it up and the CPU heatsink wasn't actually CONNECTED to the CPU. So the CPU fried. After they replaced the the CPU the IDE chain died. Took SUN a week to figure out that what I told them was correct.
Other than that they're a fun machine. I wish the SUN logo was translucent and had a blue LED behind it. I might have to do that to this box (:
One of the reasons I posted this is the people who made these things are pretty sick. They're way ahead of you - the Galahad figure does indeed come with a grail-shaped beacon!
Are you so full of yourself that you think the government is snooping on you when you sent aunt
Edna your cookie recipe?
Absolutely.
I'm not so full of myself to think the FBI/CIA/NSA are out there looking for specific stuff I write. However, I _am_ sure that there's an echelon/carnivore out there gathering any and all information it can - SOME of which is mine.
True, there is so much data there that there's no way someone's reading it all. It's obviously some machine scanning for keywords.
But the point is, they CAN go in there and see the cutsie things I Email to my wife. A bored NSA employee CAN go in there and, bu accident, of course, find my secret tofu steak recipe. Someone CAN be reading stuff I write that, while not illegal in any way, shape or form, is still PRIVATE.
Thus it gets PGPed, and thus if I am ordered by a court of law to surrender my decription keys, it will NOT be a real problem.
PGPDesktop and PGPFreeware for Windows do indeed hook into, at least, Outlook and Eudora. They make encryption and decription transparent - you have to click the little "Encrypt" thinggie on the toolbar and you're done. Unless it can't find the right keys, and then it'll ask you to choose them.
Dude, your firewall SUCKS! Not only do you have telnet open on it and allowing root access, which is pretty bad, but unfortunetly for YOU you seem to have used the exact same root password as I did!
If you are reading this message you've obviously rebuilt it already. Try not to boast so much next time or I'll rm -rf / your machine again!!! Ph33r!
Hmm, I seem to be having some kind of weird filesystem error, luckily for you, so I have to go. Cheers!
God. I bought that trilogy and it is the most boring thing I have ever read in my life. Or tried to - I'm in the middle of the second one and I just let it go. anyone who wants the trilogy for cheap can contact me.
I like Science Fiction, but not when the science involved is sociology and political science. There are vast open spaces in these books with absolutely no plot! Just descriptions and analysis.
I have to admit he has some nice ideas in it, but you could compress the three volumes into 1 if you just kept the plot in and cut out most (not all) of the really useless and meaningless background. Yes, SOME of it is neccesary, but a lot of it adds absolutely nothing to the plot.
Um, I wouldn't use Solaris 8 in a production environment.
In fact, I'd probably not use Solaris 7 in a production environment. Well... maybe I _would_ use 7, but I'd keep a VERY CLOSE EYE on it.
8 is too new, and it's also significantly WEIRD. Go with 2.6 if you want that legendary Solaris stability. Make SURE you install ALL THE RECOMMENDED PATCHES.
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A while ago debian/iunstable did nuke the pam libraries, so you couldn't login, yes.
/), mount the other dirs that might get updated (/var, /usr etc) and run apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade.
This did not require a reinstall. I heard you could've started in single-user mode, but I just went with "init=/bin/bash" at the LILO: prompt - and there you go. Logged in as root on your machine. Then you remount root sa read-write (mount -oremount,rw
Ok, so I had an unusable machine for a day. Luckily I noticed this on the non-vital machine first. (:
In the Olden Days, before I was knew enough about UNIX, I used to work as a programmer. The first place I worked at, we used Microsoft Basic Development System 7.0.
Imagine QBASIC's bigger, stronger brother. On steroids. I later moved on to use Turbo Pascal (also 7.0, hmmm), and I can tell you, other than OOP there's really nothing PASCAL had on this thing, power-wise.
MSBDS had an amazingly good IDE, had libraries/units/header files (forgot what they're called), no stupid line numbers, you could stick assembly in the BASIC 'code', had libraries that delivered the equivalent of TurboVision (mouse/windows/menubars/etc).
I think all those DOS-mode programming languages died out and were reborn as Windows-based languages. Turbo Pascal is Delphi, QBASIC is Visual Basic, etc.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh with regard to the palestenians. I guess I just got so tired of the anti-Israeli propaganda that I came on a little strong.
When I, personally think about Palestenians, I do not think in anger or contempt or hatered, but in sorrow. A few posts above I describe how the situation was when I was groing up (20-20 years ago). Palestenians amongst Israelies were a common sight. We'd just come out of the last war, and people were starting to trust each other.
How it all exploded I do not know. I was too young.
As for what the situation is like. Well, I haven't been to Israel for three years, and the popular outlook seems to have changed since then, largely due to terrorism (witness Sharon being elected prime minister, replacing the peace-oriented government before him).
I always assumed most people, Israelies and Palestenians, want peace, want to simply be allowed to live their lives in peace and understanding. However, there are evildoers and war-mongers on both sides. Dissidents who cry War, Destruction, never forgive. These people get through to the easily influenced, and I'm afraid to say it looks like that's a lot easier to do in the Palestenian side. You could not easily convince an Israeli teenager to go blow himself up in a Palestenian marketplace because then he'll get 7 Maidens in Heaven. But you can teach him to fear and hate. And sooner or later he's going to be issued a uniform and rifle and given training and permission to use it.
I also believe now there cannot be Peace as long as Arafat speaks for the Palestenians. The Israeli government is less of an issue since that can get replaced on a regular basis - and hopefully the next one will be a peace-oriented one. I used to give Arafat the benefit of the doubt, but he's proven to be unwilling or unable to control terrorism.
Again, both sides have their assortment of noisy MORONS who do not want peace, because they don't know what a real war is. I'm personally content not to find out. I'm certain that if there was some soft of infrastructure (read: internet access) where YOUTHS from both sides could meet and talk, there would be a much better understanding. The war is caused by Old People who don't even remember what they're fighting for.
Before Israel was declared by the UN as the New Jewish Homeland, it was part of the British empire. Therefore I assume you are refering to The British.
Perhaps it does, but there was really no choice at the time.
While our leaders were engaged in peace-talks, Israeli citizens were being killed by the scores in terrorist attacks. I personally was narrowly missed - twice! - by an exploding bus, and once by a suicide bomber. Granted, that might not exactly be avarage, but still.
Can you imagine public opinion, when our side gives in to many, many demands and makes a HELL of a lot of gestures of good faith (read above re: Palestenian autonimy and arming PA poloce force etc), and their side won't even stop killing us? There comes a point where negotiations are moot.
As for Jerusalem... the Palestenians have no claim to it. It is Jordan who has a legitimate claim, and Jordan never asked for it back. And if they really want to play the We Were Here First game, the Jewish people have at least 3000 years of historical connection to Jerusalem.
Now I personally am MORE than willing to share. I really have no problem with Muslims praying at holy sites in Jerusalem. When I was a kid, there were quite a few Palestenians around our neighbourhood. Nobody minded. There was one guy, Daud (sp?) who worked as a gardener in my neighbourhood. All the kids loved him. He used to always bring us fresh fruit from his village, was pretty much welcome in peoples' appartments, and you could see the happiness in his eyes when he saw children play.
How we (collectivally as a Human Race) let the situation deteriorate to the utter mess it is now is beyond me.
For the record, I am a citizen of Israel, but have been living in the USA for three years. Probably become a citizen soon if I feel like it.
Media coverage of the middle-east situation is horrible, biased and very, very one-sided. I've even heard a reported on NPR comment that "...it's hard to sympathise with the three Israeli teenagers who were clubbed to death."
Israel's so-called military and racist actions are all in response to terrorism - suicide bombers blowing up school busses, streets crowded with children, etc.
In the past, palestenians have complained about mistreatment and such, and went on a terror spree for years. Israel's response was giving them autonomy, helping the PLO (a known and established terrorist group!) transition into the Palestenian Authority, and pump money into the PA to help them develop. Israel also supplied the PA police force with weapons.
The current mideast crisis started about a year ago, when the PA was well established, Israel had a pro-peace government, and it looked like there might be peace at long last.
Then an Israeli official visited a site that's holy to both Islam and Judaism. This is what sparked the whole affair. I will repeat this, because it's important.
The current Palestenian terrorism was all sparked by an Israeli official visiting a Holy site, holy to both Jewdaism and Islam. They claim he visited, and thus desecrated the muslim part. Their response to this was not a formal comlpaint, not simple outrage, not anything within reason. They broke into the jewish site, killed people, ripped up holy books, and basically wrecked the place. Basically they started rioting, with the PA police force armed by the Israeli governemnt doing absolutely nothing to stop the riots. In fact, they were shooting at the Israeli forces who were forced to come in and take care of the rioters, who were threatening Israeil citizens.
Point is, Israel went above and beyond what anyone would have imagined a few years ago to solve the terrorist problem in a peaceful way - granting the PA autonomic control of the so-called Occupied Territories. The PA may have tried to make it work for a while - but couls not control the HAMAS and HIZBULLA. Eventually they stopped trying to cnotrol them. Now the PA is basically a launching ground for terrorism.
Despite this, Israel has acted with restraint - trying to deter terrorists rather than all-out military action. Ironically this is largely due to US demands.
And don't assume Israel's just taking your tax-money and giving nothing back. Go ask Intel how much of their tech was developed in their Israeli labs. A lot of high-tech stuff originates from Israel.
I kinda want to watch "Rat Race" because Rowan Atkinson is in it, but it seems to be a really bad remake of "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World".
Duh! I should've checked the PROM... grrrrrrrr.
Well, I guess I still can, except I relly don't need it doing anything graphic right now.
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Really? I had problems using anything except a SUN keyboard on the 'blade 100. Well, any keyboard works, really, except at boot time, where the 'blade won't see any keyboard except SUN's... meaning it'll go to serial console unless the SUN keyboard is plugged in. Does the 'blade 1000 not have this problem?
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Yes, you're right, point taken. I give into the temptation for once and semi-trolled.
The thing is, I don't really have anything against Anime, I don't expect people to have the same likes/dislikes as me. What I do have a BIt of a problem with is CmdrTaco going totally nuts over the smallest, most trivial Anime news he ever comes across. That's who "Get Over It" is addressed to, him and that specific thing. Why did he bother starting Anime-Fu if he's going to stick the Anime stuff here anyway?
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Yeah, haven't updated that in a while. To my defense, there's also pictures of me, my wife and other things family/friends have asked me to put pictures of.
I know I was overreacting a bit, I'm just so sick of Anime news. Yes, I know I can tell slashdot to ignore it.
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Oh my GOD, get OVER it already!!! Jeeeeeeeeesus!
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Well, this is excellent, thanks.
I figured it's a hacked kernel. In the meantime mine's actually running some solaris-only stuff, so I'll stick with it, but maybe I'll get another one for games.
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Just to show different ponts of view - I use xemacs for 'coding', and for small changes I think vi is king!
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It's silent until the CDROM starts dying (:
The one advantage a 'Blade has over an Ultra5 is that it has a 24-bit graphics card by default. So if you're going to use a head on it, it's actually not as painful.
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I tried it. My reason was Because It's There. I tried Red Hat, debian and SuSE, none of them could even boot.
I Emailed one of the Debian/SPARC developers and offered my help, and got a slightly impolite "Why don't you sit down, shut up and wait for us to do it, eh?"
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Ok, as people pointed out, IDE performance is complete and utter CRAP, so any disk IO is s-l-o-w. I suppose you can stick a SCSI card in it.
The other problem I had with them. Hmm. We got several of them at work, and this one guy's 'blade dies one day. I open it up and the CPU heatsink wasn't actually CONNECTED to the CPU. So the CPU fried. After they replaced the the CPU the IDE chain died. Took SUN a week to figure out that what I told them was correct.
Other than that they're a fun machine. I wish the SUN logo was translucent and had a blue LED behind it. I might have to do that to this box (:
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One of the reasons I posted this is the people who made these things are pretty sick. They're way ahead of you - the Galahad figure does indeed come with a grail-shaped beacon!
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Actually, the rabbit is included with the Sir Robin figure. Click on Sir Robin and scroll through all the images.
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Come on, Drew Barrimore's not as pretty as people seem to think she is, but calling her a cow is a bit uncalled for.
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Absolutely.
I'm not so full of myself to think the FBI/CIA/NSA are out there looking for specific stuff I write. However, I _am_ sure that there's an echelon/carnivore out there gathering any and all information it can - SOME of which is mine.
True, there is so much data there that there's no way someone's reading it all. It's obviously some machine scanning for keywords.
But the point is, they CAN go in there and see the cutsie things I Email to my wife. A bored NSA employee CAN go in there and, bu accident, of course, find my secret tofu steak recipe. Someone CAN be reading stuff I write that, while not illegal in any way, shape or form, is still PRIVATE.
Thus it gets PGPed, and thus if I am ordered by a court of law to surrender my decription keys, it will NOT be a real problem.
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PGPDesktop and PGPFreeware for Windows do indeed hook into, at least, Outlook and Eudora. They make encryption and decription transparent - you have to click the little "Encrypt" thinggie on the toolbar and you're done. Unless it can't find the right keys, and then it'll ask you to choose them.
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> Come on, try to hack my 31337 firewall!
Dude, your firewall SUCKS! Not only do you have telnet open on it and allowing root access, which is pretty bad, but unfortunetly for YOU you seem to have used the exact same root password as I did!
If you are reading this message you've obviously rebuilt it already. Try not to boast so much next time or I'll rm -rf / your machine again!!! Ph33r!
Hmm, I seem to be having some kind of weird filesystem error, luckily for you, so I have to go. Cheers!
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God. I bought that trilogy and it is the most boring thing I have ever read in my life. Or tried to - I'm in the middle of the second one and I just let it go. anyone who wants the trilogy for cheap can contact me.
I like Science Fiction, but not when the science involved is sociology and political science. There are vast open spaces in these books with absolutely no plot! Just descriptions and analysis.
I have to admit he has some nice ideas in it, but you could compress the three volumes into 1 if you just kept the plot in and cut out most (not all) of the really useless and meaningless background. Yes, SOME of it is neccesary, but a lot of it adds absolutely nothing to the plot.
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Um, I wouldn't use Solaris 8 in a production environment.
In fact, I'd probably not use Solaris 7 in a production environment. Well... maybe I _would_ use 7, but I'd keep a VERY CLOSE EYE on it.
8 is too new, and it's also significantly WEIRD. Go with 2.6 if you want that legendary Solaris stability. Make SURE you install ALL THE RECOMMENDED PATCHES.
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