Actually, Sid is a complete distribution. Sure, there is no installation media, but if you upgrade from Stable or Testing, you should be able to remove any old crud not belonging to Sid without problem. Also, nothing is in Testing without having gone through Sid, so if Sid was incomplete, so would Testing be, and Stable as well, as Stable is old Testing (+ security fixes). Unstable couldn't possibly be incomplete, and it isn't.
As for buggy packages, I've seen more in a couple of months with Ubuntu pre-release than with years of Sid. Still, if you have no specific need for bleeding edge packages, I don't see why you have to use Sid. And these days, there are security updates for Testing as well.
Or perhaps he'll be just as pleased with Offensix, the distro where all standard tools have been swapped with more offending ones, such as fsck -- fuck; finger -- fist; OpenOffice.org -- goatse.cx; Gnome2 -- Unity.
Microsoft is no exception when it comes to astroturfing. It's how advertising is done these days. Your comment, however, is just conspiratorial nonsense.
Right. Because Slashdot is swarming with investors and stockholders, and a 5 digit UID is less legitimate than your own. I have to admire the level of bullshit accepted by the average slashbot when it comes to Microsoft. The hatred makes you guys more moronic than some of the most delusional Apple fanboys. Then again, you're the same bunch.
And my comment was in direct response to that specific claim. Unlike the now +5, interesting comment I responded to, it was an actual response and not simply an excuse to bark out an unrelated monologue. At any rate, only one of the cited comments had anything positive to say about the Kin (the alleged sister of one of the commenters). The rest just claimed they could understand that kind of phone might appeal to someone.
My "ad hominem" was, of course, sarcastic: accusing the AC (and his supporters) for doing exactly what he accused others of, using his own comment as evidence. Ironically, his comment was better evidence than what he could dig up to support it. Unsubstantiated? Shush, not nearly to the same degree.
Great. Not one of those supported your(?) claim that "hordes of astroturfers came to tell us all that if we didn't see how a dumb-smartphone aimed at tweens with a plan of 80 dollars a month would succeed, we just didn't get it". Someone claiming "phones like this" are going to appeal to some group isn't really into advertising, unlike yourself.
I can't remember seeing anyone having anything positive to say about the Kin at any time. Are you sure you're not paid by Facebook to post anti-Microsoft comments to Slashdot to get us riled up against our traditional enemy so that we forget about the topic at hand for a while? Come to think about it, why isn't a comment about (the practically non-existent) pro-MS astroturfing, veering into criticism of their products, modded off topic? Moderators on the pay as well?
Well, duh. Google is a for-profit corporation. Openness is good for them insofar as it's good for their profits. I can't recall anyone claiming that Google was the FSF.
In reality, Microsoft Office often doesn't work correctly either, creating documents that will crash Office on a different computer. Especially between Mac and Windows versions. Sure, OpenOffice isn't very good, but its main problem (slight incompatibility with MS Office) is something it shares with its main competition: MS Office itself.
No, Slashdot is particularly bad when it comes to groupthink, as the combination of moderation and karma points encourages people to regurgitate old memes. People repost old crap they've seen at +5, knowing they will get their +5 as well. Moderators mod the same comments up, believing old +5 insights are important enough to merit repetition. In addition to that, you've got the various fanboys, and anything pandering to nerd vanity is an instant hit.
Sure. I agree, absolutely. But for the Wing Commander creators, this "Full Motion Video" thing was something radically new, a merger of film and video games, made possible though the invention of the CD-ROM. It was, of course, a whole load of nothing, and made gaming utterly tedious.
Possibly true, but the Wing Commander series turned full motion video (not cut scenes, but actual actors doing their thing) into an ideology. It was horrible, horrible, and needs to be forgotten.
You're wrong. Wing Commander was what ruined computer games for a while, with the introduction of "full motion video" and whatnot. It was, however, what killed the Amiga as the gaming champion.
What makes you think it was supposed to be "correct"? It's not an awards ceremony, just a selection of iconic computer games. It's a matter of course that it will miss some important ones.
Having just helped migrating a user from XP to Windows 7, I appreciate openness even more than I did before. No, you can't just buy a new mainboard when the old one is fried, since your OEM version of XP won't run on it. No, you can't use your old corporate install of Office on your new Windows 7 install. You're supposed to pay 100s of dollars for a new license when you upgrade. And no, migrating your own mail from Outlook 2003 to a free -- or commercial -- alternative basically sucks sweaty donkey balls and is barely possible (interestingly, the solution was to copy the files to a Linux box and convert them with one of the readily available tools there).
A future where you depend on corporate support for everything isn't one where shooting yourself in the foot has become more difficult, it's one where you've already shot yourself. Techies know this because they've got experience. Inexperienced users are inexperienced because they still haven't learned this.
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Actually, Sid is a complete distribution. Sure, there is no installation media, but if you upgrade from Stable or Testing, you should be able to remove any old crud not belonging to Sid without problem. Also, nothing is in Testing without having gone through Sid, so if Sid was incomplete, so would Testing be, and Stable as well, as Stable is old Testing (+ security fixes). Unstable couldn't possibly be incomplete, and it isn't.
As for buggy packages, I've seen more in a couple of months with Ubuntu pre-release than with years of Sid. Still, if you have no specific need for bleeding edge packages, I don't see why you have to use Sid. And these days, there are security updates for Testing as well.
Or perhaps he'll be just as pleased with Offensix, the distro where all standard tools have been swapped with more offending ones, such as fsck -- fuck; finger -- fist; OpenOffice.org -- goatse.cx; Gnome2 -- Unity.
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If you get random file corruption on Windows, you either have serious hardware failure or use Windows 98.
The vast majority of the information on Slashdot is wrong. I only come here to flame.
I could swear I read this on Monday.
Then they are idiots. This place is swarming with corporate fanboys.
Microsoft is no exception when it comes to astroturfing. It's how advertising is done these days. Your comment, however, is just conspiratorial nonsense.
Right. Because Slashdot is swarming with investors and stockholders, and a 5 digit UID is less legitimate than your own. I have to admire the level of bullshit accepted by the average slashbot when it comes to Microsoft. The hatred makes you guys more moronic than some of the most delusional Apple fanboys. Then again, you're the same bunch.
And my comment was in direct response to that specific claim. Unlike the now +5, interesting comment I responded to, it was an actual response and not simply an excuse to bark out an unrelated monologue. At any rate, only one of the cited comments had anything positive to say about the Kin (the alleged sister of one of the commenters). The rest just claimed they could understand that kind of phone might appeal to someone.
My "ad hominem" was, of course, sarcastic: accusing the AC (and his supporters) for doing exactly what he accused others of, using his own comment as evidence. Ironically, his comment was better evidence than what he could dig up to support it. Unsubstantiated? Shush, not nearly to the same degree.
Great. Not one of those supported your(?) claim that "hordes of astroturfers came to tell us all that if we didn't see how a dumb-smartphone aimed at tweens with a plan of 80 dollars a month would succeed, we just didn't get it". Someone claiming "phones like this" are going to appeal to some group isn't really into advertising, unlike yourself.
I can't remember seeing anyone having anything positive to say about the Kin at any time. Are you sure you're not paid by Facebook to post anti-Microsoft comments to Slashdot to get us riled up against our traditional enemy so that we forget about the topic at hand for a while? Come to think about it, why isn't a comment about (the practically non-existent) pro-MS astroturfing, veering into criticism of their products, modded off topic? Moderators on the pay as well?
Well, duh. Google is a for-profit corporation. Openness is good for them insofar as it's good for their profits. I can't recall anyone claiming that Google was the FSF.
No self-respecting geek cares about voice chat anyway.
In reality, Microsoft Office often doesn't work correctly either, creating documents that will crash Office on a different computer. Especially between Mac and Windows versions. Sure, OpenOffice isn't very good, but its main problem (slight incompatibility with MS Office) is something it shares with its main competition: MS Office itself.
No, Slashdot is particularly bad when it comes to groupthink, as the combination of moderation and karma points encourages people to regurgitate old memes. People repost old crap they've seen at +5, knowing they will get their +5 as well. Moderators mod the same comments up, believing old +5 insights are important enough to merit repetition. In addition to that, you've got the various fanboys, and anything pandering to nerd vanity is an instant hit.
Sure. I agree, absolutely. But for the Wing Commander creators, this "Full Motion Video" thing was something radically new, a merger of film and video games, made possible though the invention of the CD-ROM. It was, of course, a whole load of nothing, and made gaming utterly tedious.
Possibly true, but the Wing Commander series turned full motion video (not cut scenes, but actual actors doing their thing) into an ideology. It was horrible, horrible, and needs to be forgotten.
You're wrong. Wing Commander was what ruined computer games for a while, with the introduction of "full motion video" and whatnot. It was, however, what killed the Amiga as the gaming champion.
What makes you think it was supposed to be "correct"? It's not an awards ceremony, just a selection of iconic computer games. It's a matter of course that it will miss some important ones.
In the game, it's more of a greyish-green.
You thought there was more water in the Mojave desert than in the Potomac river?
My experience with Apple's software is the same; the only difference is that Apple's stuff gets obsolete much faster.
Having just helped migrating a user from XP to Windows 7, I appreciate openness even more than I did before. No, you can't just buy a new mainboard when the old one is fried, since your OEM version of XP won't run on it. No, you can't use your old corporate install of Office on your new Windows 7 install. You're supposed to pay 100s of dollars for a new license when you upgrade. And no, migrating your own mail from Outlook 2003 to a free -- or commercial -- alternative basically sucks sweaty donkey balls and is barely possible (interestingly, the solution was to copy the files to a Linux box and convert them with one of the readily available tools there).
A future where you depend on corporate support for everything isn't one where shooting yourself in the foot has become more difficult, it's one where you've already shot yourself. Techies know this because they've got experience. Inexperienced users are inexperienced because they still haven't learned this.
Funny how the hordes of people who think market share is the only measure of relevance have overtaken Slashdot, presumably a site for nerds.