You're going after my sig? That's what you're doing right now, really, in a completely innocuous comment having absolutely nothing to do with Carlin's quote? How about you look it up. If you're as geeked-out as your name suggests, I'm sure you've used the internet from time-to-time. Your being here is proof of that, I suppose. I'm nowhere near as tech-savvy as 90% of this site's user-base is but fine, here:
That's a link to a page the site called "wikipedia.org" (note: it's a relatively useful site, however flawed. Bookmark it, it comes in handy sometimes; ie, you avoid asking people online questions when you could find out yourself in a simple click) put up for Carlin. In it, it states that he had one daughter back in 1963, named Kelly. So yes, he was a father.
And if you think it takes a PhD in order to comprise any understanding of children, their development or basic parenting, you've added too much stupid to your morning coffee. I myself have an associate's in General Studies, with a concentration in Early Childhood Education (3 semesters worth, was pushed out by a "professor" who if she didn't like you, you went nowhere; proved by a class of 30+ students being whittled down to 3 in the class of '97's graduating class). I'm assuming you haven't had any training in ECE yourself. I could be wrong, but if I'm not, can I come over to your house and tell you how to raise your kids? I trump you with both college education and being a parent of a special needs kid. So, wanna exchange phone numbers?
Maybe change your own sig, because it doesn't suit you.
For crying out loud, it's a joke. I DID play Farmville like an idiot a few years ago, so I know the idiocy. Do I really need to go step-by-step with you? Really? Okay...
"In the employers' defense, there's no piss-test for Farmville addiction. Anyone who plays Farmville religiously needs to be rehabilitated, or in the worst cases institutionalized, not out and about in the world with the rest of us happy people."
I went to the Trayvon Martin March held in the city closest to us. As a white woman, I walked up to the City Hall thinking I'd be on the outside looking in. When I made my leave, I realized that one day, I would have to give my blond-haired, blue-eyed son The Talk--not because he'd be a target for discrimination, but he will no doubt witness acts of racism and discrimination. He will have friends of all races as our once White Bread Town, USA has become much more diverse. I want him to know that I got 'The Talk' from my racist grandmother, someone too stuck in the 30's to understand where the world was going in present-time, and how that was wrong. We talk about the curse we give our kids with religious indoctrination, and that should apply to any views: political, racial, etc.
And if I may add, if given the choice to walk down a dark street with a group of black guys on the left, white boys on the right, I'm hanging a louie. Especially if the white guys are of the frat-boy variety. I've dealt with this first-hand. Walking around on the dangerous North Side of the city I marched in is seen as an incredible risk, but I've never been harassed in doing so. I go there all the time, just for a Puerto Rican bakery, ffs. Walking by a fraternity on a prestigious college campus? They were yards and yards away, and I walked away feeling dirty. From everything I've dealt with in life, 'The Talk' given to black men seems to include more lessons about respect than what the white 'n rich boys get.
I believe I described the problem/my request with as much accuracy as I could. He was in my computer, so I was able to show him directly what the issue was, what IP I wanted ousted, etc. Believe me, I'm so-not-saying that he's the general example of what ALL tech-support is like.
"You got spam email, or are being abused by someone you know in real-life who knows that you have a severely-autistic child and is suggesting certain acts, such as 'raping them' through using a site that masks who you actually are through their providing a dummy-IP."
I really don't care if you think I'm overreacting, or believe I'm ignorant to things that occur on the internet. I really, really do not.
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To me, the problem with IT-abuse becomes more about the tech-know-nothings insisting that they know what the problem is and refuse the explanation of someone who's professionally trained. As I said, I'm not the most well-versed when it comes to super-techy stuff. I'm also not a mechanic, so I don't tell my main-man (who I've been going to since I got my license, the most trustworthy I've ever met) "It's NOT the brake-pads making that noise, it's my stereo making feedback! FIX MY STEREO!!"
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No, he didn't get any internet that day.
He should get a life sentence from the 'net, never mind a day, lol. Daaaamn.
I've been thanking people here for the info/advice, and getting this clarification definitely rules out some of my suspicions. The people whom I suspect have no ties or actual knowledge of Anonymous' actions, so in knowing Anon's 'source material', it kind of rules out the possibility that I'm being attacked by them. However, it also leads me to believe that this has been a personal attack, or even the prelude to threats, ones I don't deserve (or any parent of a special-needs kid, really). So yes, thank you for the info, I appreciate it.
It isn't fair for your wishes to trump theirs, i.e. the ISP's email system is a shared resource, not yours alone.
No, it's not mine alone, I understand that. However, the problem I have with that philosophy is the service they provide is to use a generic IP in order to hide their own from whoever they're sending mail to, and while there are perhaps real, honest uses for that, it seems obvious to me (and others) that in a good majority of cases, that service is created to abuse the person you're targeting. No, not in EVERY case, and in going to the site myself there IS a 'disclaimer' one has to agree to, stating that you are not there to abuse someone and agree to it. But what a-hole wanting to use it to abuse someone is going to say, "Aw, darn it," click "I do not accept" and go on with their daily lives? Not a one. They will hit 'I Accept' then use it to abuse someone, period.
I cannot show you the actual messages to bring my argument home, as they're disgusting enough to probably get me kicked outta here for copy/pasting in a post or comment. But some of the words/phrases used are 'your retarded child', 'dead babies', 'rape', 'up the ass', 'lick', etc. Perhaps that wouldn't bother some people, but when I have a special needs child, I consider it not just disgusting, but a threat. I know what you're saying, but to make an analogy: convenience stores are being penalized for selling 'glass-tubed roses' (and in some cases, even 'Chore-Boy Copper Scrubbers'), because the sole reason the trinkets are produced and sold is to provide the tools to make a crack-pipe. There are people that don't know this, like my neighbor, who would walk down to the corner-store for a newspaper and buy her wife the roses. She was shocked when I told her what they were sold for. Every time someone would come in and buy ten of the roses plus a few scrubbers, I knew what they were for. Does your argument apply to this, saying, "Banning the tubed-roses is unfair to those who want to buy them for their boyfriend or girlfriend" while people are overdosing and/or dying as a result of their having convenient, disguised access to the tools for their drug abuse? Yes, they could find other ways to support and maintain their drug habit, but for a company to hone in on the drug-abuser-market, to me, is unethical.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just stating my case.
I've heard of Pornocopia, as I followed the Scientology Vs. Anonymous events, but don't know what it consists of. The site in question was emkei (dot) cz, a Czech-Republic site (I rec not going there, lol). Is that the service they used? Anyway... I hate saying/typing what the content was, but it involves doing things to either dead or special needs kids. Seeing as I have a severely autistic son, it hit hard, and the fear that it could've been someone I know makes me even MORE uncomfortable. I'm a bit suspicious of a few people that are mentally unstable in my life, seeing as when it first started, my mother got the messages as well. I'd decided to send a mass-email to my contacts, describing what had happened and what to do if you get those messages (especially if they're from MY email). The fact that the messages have ceased after I did that make me feel both good and suspicious.
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"AH! My kitchen is on fire! I KNEW I should've gotten my groceries at Shop Rite instead of Stop & Shop!!!"
They yell at you over the phone because they love you.
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I'm in no way techy-savvy-goodness, I can be one big DUH about computers, but...
What about the customers who insist a faulty cable is the reason their computer keeps getting infected and refuses to let you do anything but change the cable?
Are you serious?
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In most ways, this is true. Too many stories have come out about people screeeeaming at tech support, only to realize the computer isn't plugged in.
However, I had a recent experience with Verizon support when I wanted to ban an IP address from emailing me; I'm not the most tech-savvy in the universe, and everyone here could've probably done it themselves in seconds, but I knew the basics, anyway. I went to every forum, yahoo! help section, whatever else to find a way to stop getting these awful emails from someone using an IP-masking/dummy-email service; most used MY email as the 'sender'. The content of the messages, ones I'd get literally hundreds of in one day at some points, would make me physically ill. When I'd had enough, I hit 'full header', got the IP and zeroed in on where it was coming from. I called Verizon and started a help session, where the guy helping me took control of my computer.
TS: Okay, what we will do is block the email address sending these to you-- Me: No, no, I want the IP blocked. This one. *mouses around to show IP* TS: Okay. *pause* So, you want these emails to stop. Me: Yes, I want the IP blocked. I read a forum saying to contact your internet service provider to find ways to block the IP. TS: Okay. *pause* But we can block the email address, which will-- Me: No. No, okay... look... *takes control again* THIS is the website this person sending me these abusive emails is using. THIS is the website's IP address. When I get the emails, each one has the same IP, because they're USING this service's IP to harass me. Look, they're using MY email address as a 'dummy'; blocking the email address means I'm blocking MY email address. *clicks full header from two different emails* See? These are alllll being sent from the same IP. This is a site people use when they want to abuse someone without being found out. Watch. *demonstrates by sending an email to herself from the service being used (probably not the best idea in the universe, but he was NOT. GETTING. IT.)* See? TS: Ohhhhhhhhhh. Yes. It's not the email you want blocked, but the IP. Me: *looks to husband and shakes her head very slowly*
There I am, a total amateur, telling a guy being paid to NOT be an idiot what I wanted done. No matter how many times I told him that forums and tech-guides all suggested getting your internet provider to help block IPs, he couldn't grasp the idea. I don't know if that IS possible, so I'm giving up on some aspects of tech support and just going to my brother, who, at eight-years old, outdid the instructor at the 'Computer Camp' he was enrolled in. Kinda sick of being so newbish when it comes to this stuff. I told him yesterday at my parent's Easter dinner he was going to teach me everything he knew. We're both kinda psyched.
When I was in college, I got myself obsessed with the Titanic disaster for whatever reason. I still find myself going back to it from time-to-time, and with the anniversary coming up, I've been listening more and more to Gavin Bryar's 60+ minute composition 'Sinking of the Titanic', (fave clip) a piece which emulates the sound of the violinists who 'played on', playing underwater. However haunting it is, I used to put it on every night to help me sleep.
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You're going after my sig? That's what you're doing right now, really, in a completely innocuous comment having absolutely nothing to do with Carlin's quote? How about you look it up. If you're as geeked-out as your name suggests, I'm sure you've used the internet from time-to-time. Your being here is proof of that, I suppose. I'm nowhere near as tech-savvy as 90% of this site's user-base is but fine, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carlin#Personal_life
That's a link to a page the site called "wikipedia.org" (note: it's a relatively useful site, however flawed. Bookmark it, it comes in handy sometimes; ie, you avoid asking people online questions when you could find out yourself in a simple click) put up for Carlin. In it, it states that he had one daughter back in 1963, named Kelly. So yes, he was a father.
And if you think it takes a PhD in order to comprise any understanding of children, their development or basic parenting, you've added too much stupid to your morning coffee. I myself have an associate's in General Studies, with a concentration in Early Childhood Education (3 semesters worth, was pushed out by a "professor" who if she didn't like you, you went nowhere; proved by a class of 30+ students being whittled down to 3 in the class of '97's graduating class). I'm assuming you haven't had any training in ECE yourself. I could be wrong, but if I'm not, can I come over to your house and tell you how to raise your kids? I trump you with both college education and being a parent of a special needs kid. So, wanna exchange phone numbers?
Maybe change your own sig, because it doesn't suit you.
All along, we've thought it to be in OUR nearby Springfield. Life sucks suddenly.
For crying out loud, it's a joke. I DID play Farmville like an idiot a few years ago, so I know the idiocy. Do I really need to go step-by-step with you? Really? Okay...
"In the employers' defense, there's no piss-test for Farmville addiction. Anyone who plays Farmville religiously needs to be rehabilitated, or in the worst cases institutionalized, not out and about in the world with the rest of us happy people."
And here's visuals of the joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odBDAcOEKuI
...there's no piss-test for Farmville addiction.
Knew the second this went up, the comments would essplode. Everything from "nothing to see here" and "who cares?" and "yay!" and "nay!"...
Best game ever. RIP.
It's a prank that's been going on since New Year's Eve 2010.
I went to the Trayvon Martin March held in the city closest to us. As a white woman, I walked up to the City Hall thinking I'd be on the outside looking in. When I made my leave, I realized that one day, I would have to give my blond-haired, blue-eyed son The Talk--not because he'd be a target for discrimination, but he will no doubt witness acts of racism and discrimination. He will have friends of all races as our once White Bread Town, USA has become much more diverse. I want him to know that I got 'The Talk' from my racist grandmother, someone too stuck in the 30's to understand where the world was going in present-time, and how that was wrong. We talk about the curse we give our kids with religious indoctrination, and that should apply to any views: political, racial, etc.
And if I may add, if given the choice to walk down a dark street with a group of black guys on the left, white boys on the right, I'm hanging a louie. Especially if the white guys are of the frat-boy variety. I've dealt with this first-hand. Walking around on the dangerous North Side of the city I marched in is seen as an incredible risk, but I've never been harassed in doing so. I go there all the time, just for a Puerto Rican bakery, ffs. Walking by a fraternity on a prestigious college campus? They were yards and yards away, and I walked away feeling dirty. From everything I've dealt with in life, 'The Talk' given to black men seems to include more lessons about respect than what the white 'n rich boys get.
Good points, and I'll be taking the suggestions. I'll probably go over this stuff with my brother, as he knows more than I. Thanks. :)
But can it travel through time?
Oh, if I had mod-points...
I believe I described the problem/my request with as much accuracy as I could. He was in my computer, so I was able to show him directly what the issue was, what IP I wanted ousted, etc. Believe me, I'm so-not-saying that he's the general example of what ALL tech-support is like.
Plus, I don't have a printer. Lol.
Let me finish the second sentence:
"You got spam email, or are being abused by someone you know in real-life who knows that you have a severely-autistic child and is suggesting certain acts, such as 'raping them' through using a site that masks who you actually are through their providing a dummy-IP."
I really don't care if you think I'm overreacting, or believe I'm ignorant to things that occur on the internet. I really, really do not.
To me, the problem with IT-abuse becomes more about the tech-know-nothings insisting that they know what the problem is and refuse the explanation of someone who's professionally trained. As I said, I'm not the most well-versed when it comes to super-techy stuff. I'm also not a mechanic, so I don't tell my main-man (who I've been going to since I got my license, the most trustworthy I've ever met) "It's NOT the brake-pads making that noise, it's my stereo making feedback! FIX MY STEREO!!"
No, he didn't get any internet that day.
He should get a life sentence from the 'net, never mind a day, lol. Daaaamn.
I've been thanking people here for the info/advice, and getting this clarification definitely rules out some of my suspicions. The people whom I suspect have no ties or actual knowledge of Anonymous' actions, so in knowing Anon's 'source material', it kind of rules out the possibility that I'm being attacked by them. However, it also leads me to believe that this has been a personal attack, or even the prelude to threats, ones I don't deserve (or any parent of a special-needs kid, really). So yes, thank you for the info, I appreciate it.
It isn't fair for your wishes to trump theirs, i.e. the ISP's email system is a shared resource, not yours alone.
No, it's not mine alone, I understand that. However, the problem I have with that philosophy is the service they provide is to use a generic IP in order to hide their own from whoever they're sending mail to, and while there are perhaps real, honest uses for that, it seems obvious to me (and others) that in a good majority of cases, that service is created to abuse the person you're targeting. No, not in EVERY case, and in going to the site myself there IS a 'disclaimer' one has to agree to, stating that you are not there to abuse someone and agree to it. But what a-hole wanting to use it to abuse someone is going to say, "Aw, darn it," click "I do not accept" and go on with their daily lives? Not a one. They will hit 'I Accept' then use it to abuse someone, period.
I cannot show you the actual messages to bring my argument home, as they're disgusting enough to probably get me kicked outta here for copy/pasting in a post or comment. But some of the words/phrases used are 'your retarded child', 'dead babies', 'rape', 'up the ass', 'lick', etc. Perhaps that wouldn't bother some people, but when I have a special needs child, I consider it not just disgusting, but a threat. I know what you're saying, but to make an analogy: convenience stores are being penalized for selling 'glass-tubed roses' (and in some cases, even 'Chore-Boy Copper Scrubbers'), because the sole reason the trinkets are produced and sold is to provide the tools to make a crack-pipe. There are people that don't know this, like my neighbor, who would walk down to the corner-store for a newspaper and buy her wife the roses. She was shocked when I told her what they were sold for. Every time someone would come in and buy ten of the roses plus a few scrubbers, I knew what they were for. Does your argument apply to this, saying, "Banning the tubed-roses is unfair to those who want to buy them for their boyfriend or girlfriend" while people are overdosing and/or dying as a result of their having convenient, disguised access to the tools for their drug abuse? Yes, they could find other ways to support and maintain their drug habit, but for a company to hone in on the drug-abuser-market, to me, is unethical.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just stating my case.
I'd tried to find out how, but all I came across was how to block addresses. I'll have to look closer, I suppose--thanks. :)
I've heard of Pornocopia, as I followed the Scientology Vs. Anonymous events, but don't know what it consists of. The site in question was emkei (dot) cz, a Czech-Republic site (I rec not going there, lol). Is that the service they used? Anyway... I hate saying/typing what the content was, but it involves doing things to either dead or special needs kids. Seeing as I have a severely autistic son, it hit hard, and the fear that it could've been someone I know makes me even MORE uncomfortable. I'm a bit suspicious of a few people that are mentally unstable in my life, seeing as when it first started, my mother got the messages as well. I'd decided to send a mass-email to my contacts, describing what had happened and what to do if you get those messages (especially if they're from MY email). The fact that the messages have ceased after I did that make me feel both good and suspicious.
"AH! My kitchen is on fire! I KNEW I should've gotten my groceries at Shop Rite instead of Stop & Shop!!!"
They yell at you over the phone because they love you.
I'm in no way techy-savvy-goodness, I can be one big DUH about computers, but...
What about the customers who insist a faulty cable is the reason their computer keeps getting infected and refuses to let you do anything but change the cable?
Are you serious?
In most ways, this is true. Too many stories have come out about people screeeeaming at tech support, only to realize the computer isn't plugged in.
However, I had a recent experience with Verizon support when I wanted to ban an IP address from emailing me; I'm not the most tech-savvy in the universe, and everyone here could've probably done it themselves in seconds, but I knew the basics, anyway. I went to every forum, yahoo! help section, whatever else to find a way to stop getting these awful emails from someone using an IP-masking/dummy-email service; most used MY email as the 'sender'. The content of the messages, ones I'd get literally hundreds of in one day at some points, would make me physically ill. When I'd had enough, I hit 'full header', got the IP and zeroed in on where it was coming from. I called Verizon and started a help session, where the guy helping me took control of my computer.
TS: Okay, what we will do is block the email address sending these to you--
Me: No, no, I want the IP blocked. This one. *mouses around to show IP*
TS: Okay. *pause* So, you want these emails to stop.
Me: Yes, I want the IP blocked. I read a forum saying to contact your internet service provider to find ways to block the IP.
TS: Okay. *pause* But we can block the email address, which will--
Me: No. No, okay... look... *takes control again* THIS is the website this person sending me these abusive emails is using. THIS is the website's IP address. When I get the emails, each one has the same IP, because they're USING this service's IP to harass me. Look, they're using MY email address as a 'dummy'; blocking the email address means I'm blocking MY email address. *clicks full header from two different emails* See? These are alllll being sent from the same IP. This is a site people use when they want to abuse someone without being found out. Watch. *demonstrates by sending an email to herself from the service being used (probably not the best idea in the universe, but he was NOT. GETTING. IT.)* See?
TS: Ohhhhhhhhhh. Yes. It's not the email you want blocked, but the IP.
Me: *looks to husband and shakes her head very slowly*
There I am, a total amateur, telling a guy being paid to NOT be an idiot what I wanted done. No matter how many times I told him that forums and tech-guides all suggested getting your internet provider to help block IPs, he couldn't grasp the idea. I don't know if that IS possible, so I'm giving up on some aspects of tech support and just going to my brother, who, at eight-years old, outdid the instructor at the 'Computer Camp' he was enrolled in. Kinda sick of being so newbish when it comes to this stuff. I told him yesterday at my parent's Easter dinner he was going to teach me everything he knew. We're both kinda psyched.
When I was in college, I got myself obsessed with the Titanic disaster for whatever reason. I still find myself going back to it from time-to-time, and with the anniversary coming up, I've been listening more and more to Gavin Bryar's 60+ minute composition 'Sinking of the Titanic', (fave clip) a piece which emulates the sound of the violinists who 'played on', playing underwater. However haunting it is, I used to put it on every night to help me sleep.