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Giant Touchscreens Coming To NYC Phone Booths

An anonymous reader writes "New York City is planning an upgrade to its aging pay-phone infrastructure. A pilot program will next month install 32-inch touchscreens in 250 phone booths throughout the city. The screens will display "local neighborhood information, including lists of nearby restaurants, store sales in the area, traffic updates, landmark information and safety alerts — in multiple languages.' They will facilitate the 311 service, and also allow people to file complaints or request city information. The good news is that these screens won't cost the taxpayers anything. The bad news is that they will be supported by advertising. The plan is to eventually support Skype calls and email, and to integrate Wi-Fi hotspots."

124 comments

  1. Stealing and breaking? by CoderExpert · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering the high cost of 32" touch screens, and their almost non-existing serviceability (once you break it, it's gone), is this really such a good idea? It will probably just lead to stealing and breaking, especially during night time. The pay phones itself aren't that expensive, and consists of several parts that you can fix (and they are bulky). These touch screens are.

    Besides, even if "tax payers don't need to pay for them and they will be supported by advertising", they will have to eat the costs initially. Advertising will just recoup the cost in the long run, IF it's successful project.

    1. Re:Stealing and breaking? by pankkake · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even with normal use I doubt they will last long. Or stay clean.

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    2. Re:Stealing and breaking? by Moheeheeko · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if hobo urine streams will push the buttons on it, I guess we will know soon.

    3. Re:Stealing and breaking? by arisvega · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yes, especially with their cameras providing a constant feed on central, eh? Hey! Here is you looting the screen! And here is you urinating! And it's Fox News!

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    4. Re:Stealing and breaking? by lbmouse · · Score: 1

      If it gets porn. One can only hope it stays clean.

    5. Re:Stealing and breaking? by bobcat7677 · · Score: 1

      Judging by what I have seen in traditional phone booths, I don't think they will need to be able to access porn for that to be a problem. Usually phone booths I have tried to use have one or more of the following problems in order of likelihood: missing phone book, feces contamination, urine contamination, other bodily fluid contamination, missing/broken handset. Often, one could check the "all of the above" box. People have no respect in today's society.

    6. Re:Stealing and breaking? by bobcat7677 · · Score: 1

      "we"? Who is volunteering to survey the hobos? Or are you suggesting there are hobos on /.? I guess one of us could go try it out of scientific curiosity...

    7. Re:Stealing and breaking? by Minwee · · Score: 1

      That just makes it more of a challenge.

    8. Re:Stealing and breaking? by a-zarkon! · · Score: 1

      Excellent - a great new vector for MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus) - you may know this better as "flesh-eating bacteria"

    9. Re:Stealing and breaking? by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I lived in NYC until recently. In Manhattan, there are already big-screen TVs mounted to things like subway entrances - easily within reach of vandalism. So either vandalism and theft aren't a big deal, or the advertising is lucrative enough to pay for it.

      Clean is another issue. :)

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    10. Re:Stealing and breaking? by CoderExpert · · Score: 1

      Actually, a few times there have been comments by homeless persons and hobos. So yes, there are hobos on /.

    11. Re:Stealing and breaking? by pz · · Score: 1

      A big screen like that is going to be too much of a temptation for baseball-bat wielding ne'er-do-wells.

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    12. Re:Stealing and breaking? by Chuckstar · · Score: 1

      Apparently you did not RTFA. The city sold franchise rights to a company called City24x7, who will install and maintain the kiosks at its own expense. During the pilot program (250 units), the city gets 0% of the ad revenue. If the program is rolled out permanently, the city will get 36% of ad revenue.

      Net cost to NYC taxpayers -- $0.

    13. Re:Stealing and breaking? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

      If they base it on a windows install someone will be playing solitaire on it by the end of the first day.

    14. Re:Stealing and breaking? by rullywowr · · Score: 1

      iPiss, Gen 3

    15. Re:Stealing and breaking? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      This is government. The need for 250 will cause them to make an order for 30,000 displays to cover replacements and to cover defective ones which, for some reason, it accepts broken out of he box.

      They will cost $3,000 each due to the extra chemically resistant screen that can handle vicious spraypaint removal sprays. Still, 1 of 3 will be broken by a worker trying to chip off the paint, the other two of three are already broken as I type this.

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    16. Re:Stealing and breaking? by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 2

      Not just bats. Here we have huge problems with idiots scribing gang symbols and slogans into anything with a glass pane using diamond rings.

      I would bet there will be all sorts of graffiti etched into the screens in no time.

    17. Re:Stealing and breaking? by painandgreed · · Score: 2

      Considering the traditional meaning of 'hobo' was a transient male worker that moved across the country from low paying job to low paying job, there probably are a lot of them on /. but we just call them 'application consultants' now.

    18. Re:Stealing and breaking? by Larryish · · Score: 1

      I vote for stealing.

      Haven't been to the Rotten Apple in years, might take a trip up there and price some touchscreen monitors.

      Oh hold on, I need to find a computer store... "Excuse me, sir or madam, where is the nearest telephone booth?"

    19. Re:Stealing and breaking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome, friend.

      http://slashdot.org/~homelessinlajolla

    20. Re:Stealing and breaking? by donaldm · · Score: 2

      Even with normal use I doubt they will last long. Or stay clean.

      A few one second bursts of a spray can by a Graffiti artist? and by-by screen. A determined person could deface all 250 screens in a few hours unless cameras are installed and even if that was the case that would only deter a few.

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    21. Re:Stealing and breaking? by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

      That's easy to mitigate with a sacraficial layer of plexiglass over the front. Once it gets scratched and damaged enough, just replace it. This is what they do for posters and TV screens in the subway.

    22. Re:Stealing and breaking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you say Gorilla Glass?

  2. They have phones in booths now? by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally I can get rid of this annoying cell-phone.

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    1. Re:They have phones in booths now? by Malties · · Score: 4, Funny

      And I can finally find a place in the crowded street to change clothes

  3. Question: by CanHasDIY · · Score: 0

    What the fuck is a 'phone booth?'

    Anything like those horseless carriages I keep hearing so much about?

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    1. Re:Question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean horseDRAWN carriages. Horseless carriages are everywhere nowadays.

    2. Re:Question: by CanHasDIY · · Score: 0

      Bullfeathers, I meant what I said you whipper-snapper!

      What's next, you're going to tell me that taking a picture doesn't require the subject to hold perfectly still for 30 minutes? Poppycock, I say!

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    3. Re:Question: by LoRdTAW · · Score: 4, Funny

      What the fuck is a 'phone booth?'

      A bathroom.

    4. Re:Question: by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      No sir. These days the subject only has to hold still long enough for them to say the word "Cheese" (though adding "eating surrender monkey" helps), within seconds a floppy flexible plastic card pops out all grey, with a white border, and as you sit still and watch the picture automagically appears out of the grey fog in the plastic. if you bend or touch it before the picture has appeared your subjects will appear mutated.

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  4. 250 phone booths? by davidwr · · Score: 1

    install 32-inch touchscreens in every remaining phone booths throughout the city.

    There, fixed that for you.

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  5. why do you even have phone booths? by Karmashock · · Score: 1

    We live in the age of 20 dollar disposable cellphones. Enough with the anachronisms. Let the phone booth die.

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    1. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by mhajicek · · Score: 1

      You can bet the legislation for this was lobbied for by the company that would supply and install them.

    2. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Obviously since they will use the touchscreen to display information they are trying to morph them into "information kiosks" which also provide a public payphone. Doesn't sound like an awful idea, especially in a city that attracts as many tourists as N.Y.

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    3. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by bws111 · · Score: 1

      They are booth-like structures which FORMERLY housed telephones. Now they are being reused as information kiosks.

    4. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OH yes 20 bucks is so much cheaper than 50 cents to make 1 call...

      Not everyone wants one.

      Or 'damn lost my cell and no one is around'...

      I have a cell but I know *many* people to who 20 bucks is a *LOT* of money.

      Sounds like they are making them better and a public service at that. If it works fine. If not they probably will rip them out...

    5. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by rossdee · · Score: 2

      So Superheroes have somewhere to put on their costumes...

      And the Newt for President campaign has a place to meet

    6. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by Shoe+Puppet · · Score: 1

      What we really need are cellphone dispensers.

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    7. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      20 dollar disposable cell phones that must be recharged on a 24 hour basis or they become paperweights. Not sure if you're a teenager that thinks phone booths are
      truly outdated, or just a cell phone salesman.

      I've been in many situations where my cell phone had died or I didn't have it on me. People who work at hotels, restaurants and gas stations gave me weird looks when I asked for local information. As if I was some helpless lost child. Our brains are all rewired by our little computers. So asking for directions was immediately putting me in a lower class because I didn't have information access other than meat space. Some people couldn't even recall things without looking them up. I'd have been fine getting the information from a kiosk like this had it been available.

    8. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about making suicide booths?

    9. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by need4mospd · · Score: 1

      I think you meant to say "advertisement kiosks".

    10. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the amount of bacteria in some phone booths, they more or less are suicide booths already.

    11. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't have a cell phone...haven't had any kind of phone for about 5 or 6 years now...it's great! :D
      I just use email and free wifi for communicating (via netbook)...anywhere in the world. Why should I spend upteen dollars to carry around a battery draining device, which often rudely and instantly demands my attention? And I use my employers phones for work purposes, and I'm not bothered with work on MY time.

      Cell phone free and lovin' it...:D

    12. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NYC already has similar devices in Taxis - I suspect this will be the same thing, only larger and with phone capabilities.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/nyregion/13taxitv.html

      etc.

      For some reason, this similarity is not outlined in the post article, despite I'm sure their familiarity with such devices.

      anyhow. yes - good for tourists / ads / maps / other info stuff.

    13. Re:why do you even have phone booths? by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      they should be reused as soda cans. Just recycle it entirely.

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  6. we have phone booths in NYC? by alen · · Score: 2

    really?

    i can't remember the last time i have seen one. even the people in the housing projects mostly have smart phones now. only the old luddites don't have them

    1. Re:we have phone booths in NYC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't have them in Seattle, at least not that I've ever seen. Wired home phones are getting rare here.

    2. Re:we have phone booths in NYC? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Does 2600 still have photos of phone booths from around the world on the back cover? That was the highlight of my month back in my teenage years...

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    3. Re:we have phone booths in NYC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes although many of them are booths without actual phones now. You can get it on amazon kindle.

    4. Re:we have phone booths in NYC? by paleo2002 · · Score: 2

      They go by a different name in the NYC area. We call them "public restrooms" or "Port-a-Johns" more popularly.

      The major problem with this plan is that the kiosk touchscreens will probably be turned on 24/7, cycling through pictures, ads, etc. How are the homeless people who inevitably take up residence in these booths going to be able to sleep if the screen is constantly running?

    5. Re:we have phone booths in NYC? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Luddites, or misers. I still can't find a cell phone plan that's cheaper than my land line. Given that I've lived 30 years without the need for a cell phone, I don't see the point in taking on extra expenses for no real benefit.

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    6. Re:we have phone booths in NYC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somewhere, sometime there was a guy saying this about [concept]

      $array= [cars
      electricity
      central A/C
      Computer
      Internet
      Landlines
      Credit Cards
      Bank Accounts
      Freedom
      ]

      while $array
      s/[concept]/$array/g

    7. Re:we have phone booths in NYC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the U.S., Ting might come pretty close to your landline cost - although you have to buy a phone up front. Their (only) feature phone is $100 (Android phones start at $190 for the Optimus S).

      There's a fixed $6/month for each device.

      Voice, text, and data are all charged separately in tiers. You get billed for the tier you actually end up in so you don't have to guess as to how much you're going to use each month.

      Voice tiers start at 100 minutes for $3/month, and 500 minutes for $9/month.

      If you don't want text or data (since you're comparing to a landline), you can just disable these features so you don't accidentally incur costs for texts or data.

      Multiple phones can share the same pool of minutes/texts/bytes.

      No contract is required and there's no activation fee. There are of course taxes etc. on top of the above pricing (which can vary even between cities).

      Ting uses Sprint as the primary carrier, but voice/text (not, however, data) roams to Verizon at no cost -- so coverage is very good for voice/text.

      So, for 100 minutes a month on one feature phone, the upfront cost is $100 and $9/month thereafter (plus taxes/regulatory fees) - that's cheaper than landlines where I live (esp. if one makes any long domestic long distance calls which, of course, are no charge on the Ting plan).

    8. Re:we have phone booths in NYC? by alen · · Score: 1

      cell phones have this cool feature of unlimited minutes to cell phones on the same network and on nights and weekends. some carriers will give you unlimited minutes to any cell on any network

    9. Re:we have phone booths in NYC? by jason8 · · Score: 1

      There are 4 phone booths left in Manhattan, according to this article. All of them in pretty out-of-the-way places.

      I've certainly never seen one that I can remember, after 13 years living here. Plenty of pay phones, but no phone booths.

  7. How long until they get hacked? by gubers33 · · Score: 1

    I feel like it will only be about a week or so until these begin getting hacked by someone wanting to mess around.

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  8. go with the flow by bigdaddyhame · · Score: 1

    are they protected against urine?

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  9. I was just wondering... by Iniamyen · · Score: 5, Funny

    How could chatroulette get any worse? Now I know.

    1. Re:I was just wondering... by Cazekiel · · Score: 2

      Oh, if I had mod-points...

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  10. This is a problem for you? by MRe_nl · · Score: 4, Funny

    People always make space when I change clothes in the crowded street.

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    1. Re:This is a problem for you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's nothing. I am from germany and when I saw a dude taking a crap on the street in NYC he'd swing his fist at me inb4. It was my first impression after leaving the bus from the airport. I'll never forget it. Ever.

  11. Superman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most importantly, Superman will once again have a
    place to change into his costume in the modern era!

  12. Sign of the times by wolfguru · · Score: 2

    What a wonderful idea - they should have done this 20 years ago!!! In as much as the technology to do anything these are planned to do is in 75% or so of the cellphone using public, who would have been the ones interested enough to use them back then. What will they think of next? Lamp, mounted right on the fenders of the carriages so we can see to drive them at night???

  13. phone booths still exist? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    ....and why would I want to touch one? Especially in New York City.

    I remember that other public resource for street information, the yellow pages. But it was hard to find a set in a phone booth that hadn't been pissed on.

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    1. Re:phone booths still exist? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I remember that other public resource for street information, the yellow pages. But it was hard to find a set in a phone booth that hadn't been pissed on.

      There's yellow, and then there's really yellow.

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  14. At least I'll be entertained... but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why the heck do I need a 32" touch screen in my suicide booth?

  15. Cool by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I expect the next Hipster fad to be a genuine touch screen stolen from a NYC phone booth.

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    1. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It won't displace the always-present hipster fad of ripping on other people for being hipsters

    2. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I laughed at hipsters before the 'before it was cool' hipster meme was created.

    3. Re:Cool by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      That's the anti-hipster fad.

      There's an easy way to tell the difference: Hipsters are the ones in black trench coats, shaved bald (or whatever is hip, now it appears to be bald) with a bluetooth receiver in ear (that may not even work, as it's primarily for show) ordering an unnecessarily complicated drink, insisting that they check "in the back" for those breakfast wraps they're out of, (completely failing to hear that there is no "back") and wandering over to the barista for additional unending instructions on the drink, leaving the lone register locked up with his order while he thoroughly sates his empty need for attention.

      The non-hipsters are the under-caffeinated people in line who think he's just an asshole.

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    4. Re:Cool by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Just because you do something first doesn't mean you're a hipster.

      Doing it first if it's not worth doing at all, *that's* a hipster.

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  16. Hum by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    This sorry endeaviour reeks of political pork-barrell projects and I don't believe that this will cost the tax-payers nothing. Do you really think ad revenue will be enough to provide for the mamouth operating and maintenance costs? It will just be a matter of time before the tax payer needs to get involved. All all of this is to exactly what point? Tear out the phone booths that are really an urban blight. Just about everyone has cell phones and the number of consumers with tablets are growing constantly. Why not take that money and build out WiFi hotspots? Why would I use one of these "phone booths" when I have my own equipment?

    1. Re:Hum by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      This sorry endeaviour reeks of political pork-barrell projects and I don't believe that this will cost the tax-payers nothing. Do you really think ad revenue will be enough to provide for the mamouth operating and maintenance costs?

      TFA claims

      Between coins and advertising, pay phones currently earn the city about $18 million annually,

      Is this "mamouth operating" cost going to be more than 18 million?

    2. Re:Hum by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      Just about everyone has cell phones and the number of consumers with tablets are growing constantly. Why not take that money and build out WiFi hotspots? Why would I use one of these "phone booths" when I have my own equipment?

      Nonono wait, the government is providing free buggy whips! "Well, at least we can satisfy our S&M fantasies..." (Currently I'm listening to The Wall, and the lyric just before I hit submit: "we don't need no education.")

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  17. A Phone Booth is so you can call Mr. Watson... by Picass0 · · Score: 1

    ...and ask if he hears you.

    You young people with your fancy Model-Ts and internal combustion engines. My Stanley Steamer is good enough for me.

    1. Re:A Phone Booth is so you can call Mr. Watson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... My Stanley Steamer is good enough for me.

      Obligatory "That's what she said."

  18. How did you get "replace" out of this? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    How did you get "replace phones" out of this?

    The screens will display "local neighborhood information, including lists of nearby restaurants, store sales in the area, traffic updates, landmark information and safety alerts — in multiple languages.'...The plan is to eventually support Skype calls and email, and to integrate Wi-Fi hotspots.

    These are street-level digital billboards. There's nothing here to suggest that outbound calls can or ever will be made. (Anyone want to defend "eventually"?)

    1. Re:How did you get "replace" out of this? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

      The smart screens will eventually be wired to make Skype calls, log onto e-mail accounts and serve as WiFi hotspots, Touchet said.

      From the article itself.

    2. Re:How did you get "replace" out of this? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      The 22-inch underground touch screens will be equipped with cameras for video applications, as well as electrical outlets so users can charge their phones while buying access to Web, e-mail and apps.

      RTFA much?

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    3. Re:How did you get "replace" out of this? by chrismcb · · Score: 2

      How did you get "replace phones" out of this?

      I'm guessing they got it from the second sentence of the article:

      The pilot program will replace crusty telephones

      or perhaps from the third sentence:

      And the futuristic screens could eventually replace all of the city’s 12,800 outdoor pay phones...

      Those two sentences seem to imply they will be replacing phones. But perhaps I misread them.
      As far as eventually, I assume "eventually" will be as soon as they can prove they'll make more than the $18 million a year they are making now.

    4. Re:How did you get "replace" out of this? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Underground touch screens?

      That's a novel concept. No, I don't think I'm going to RTFA. I'm just going to let this vision percolate in my brain for awhile, unaided by facts. It's much more amusing this way.

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    5. Re:How did you get "replace" out of this? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      They're adding them to the subway system too, albeit in a slight variant. Regarding the fine art of RTFAing, though... I really want to know how xxxJonBoyxxx was able to quote a line mentioning upcoming Skype support and then claim they were just billboards. :\

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    6. Re:How did you get "replace" out of this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know it's a stupid question, but if they're make more than $18 million a year on those phones, doesn't that mean someone is using them?

      If someone is using them, it seems like a very bad idea to get rid of them.

      Any reason why they couldn't keep the phones and "upgrade" the phone booths to information/suicide booths?

  19. Simple mistake... by jimmydigital · · Score: 0

    I can see where the author could get confused. Those aren't for phone booths... those are for new suicide booths. If you think about it.. those make a lot more sense for a city like NY.

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  20. So Crates by Cazekiel · · Score: 1

    But can it travel through time?

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  21. This is cool! by javascriptjunkie · · Score: 1

    If for no other reason than that we know they still have phone booths in New York City!

    1. Re:This is cool! by Chuckstar · · Score: 2

      There are tons of phone booths left in NYC. I can't remember the last time I saw someone use one to make a phone call*. I think all of the revenue comes from advertising posters mounted on the sides. The fact that there's a phone in there is just an excuse for building the ad space.

      *Just a couple weeks ago I saw someone use one to take a wiz, though.

    2. Re:This is cool! by javascriptjunkie · · Score: 1

      Wow, that's crazy. I haven't been to New York for years, but here in Kansas City, there haven't been any phone booths for years. I saw one a few months ago that was kind of half up at a gas station on my way to Saint Louis. I thought it was interesting enough to take a closer look. When I got closer, I noticed that there was in fact a phone in it. But someone had cut off the receiver. Probably years ago.

  22. Landlines vs Wireless by CriminalNerd · · Score: 1

    Personally, I think it'd be nice to have a usable landline available within reachable distance from my position in case there is interference (wireless, concussive, or otherwise) that prevents my cell phone from working when I actually need to use a phone, no matter the rarity of the occasion.

    Your post reminds me of the Tennesee man who didn't pay his firefighter fees and was upset the firefighters didn't help his house from not burning down despite offering to pay for it no matter the cost.

    On the other hand, expensive touchscreens in public phone booths is just asking for trouble.

    1. Re:Landlines vs Wireless by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      I thought you were trolling....
      No firefighter would refuse service would they? (Send a bill later, sure, but not help?)
      http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Firefighters-watch-as-home-burns-to-the-ground-104052668.html
      Well I'll be a gnat's ass on a landmine...

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    2. Re:Landlines vs Wireless by networkBoy · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Landlines vs Wireless by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      It saddens me to live in such a society. Yes, that's right, I just said that some socialistic value was greater than the apparently capitalist value that allowed these public servants to let someone's house burn to the ground. Wow, I'm so un-American. Welfare.

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    4. Re:Landlines vs Wireless by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      The solution in such communities is volunteer firefighter departments. They were once the national norm. They don't work well in large cities but they work very well in suburban or rural communities were it is unlikely that you'll have overlap between different departments. The idea is very simple. The community either through donations or taxes sets up a non-profit. They either donate or tax what is needed to buy a building and fire truck. Then local membersof the community basically join a club. The fire fighting building becomes a club house. Most of the time they sit there drinking coffee with friends and playing cards.

      When a call comes in the eight most sober people in the club jump on the truck and go off to fight the fire.

      This sounds haphazard but fires aren't that common in such regions. You might get one a day or one every couple days at most. So the idea is just to keep enough people in the club at all times that if a call comes in they can man the truck.

      All these people have normal jobs or are retired. The expense to the local community is much more reasonable considering their needs. And the community gets a community center. The fire fighting station is 80 percent recreation center and 20 percent fire station.

      After that the next more reasonable option is a company. They're just going to be a lot cheaper then a public fire fighting division. That said, the dues for the fire fighters should probably be paid through taxes if it's a private department. It will still be cheaper then a public department.

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    5. Re:Landlines vs Wireless by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      walk into a store, restaurant, or hotel and ask nicely to use the phone with reversed charges or offer to pay for the privilege in cash. Most such places will be happy to offer you the phone for local calls at no charge. And most places will be flexible enough to work something out... just buy a muffin or something.

      We don't need to put phone booths all over the place. They're not even putting them in bars anymore. Think about that. there was a time when a corner of every bar had a couple coin op public phones. They're gone. Why is that? No one uses them.

      If you want to help people, provide a public bathroom. That would be useful in New York. But a phone booth? A complete waste of money and total waste of time.

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    6. Re:Landlines vs Wireless by MrAngryForNoReason · · Score: 1

      I'm not being funny but if the local government require everyone to pay $75 which funds the fire service (rather than just bundling it into local taxes as most places do) can you really complain if you didn't pay? When you say "Send a bill later" do you mean a bill for $75 or a bill of the actual cost of responding to and putting out a fire. That cost would certainly run to thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.

      I am sure that if anyone's life was at stake they would have saved them but protecting someone's property who specifically declined to pay for that service is very different.

      I'm not saying it is a great system and it baffles me why they wouldn't just roll the cost of the fire service into local taxes like they do in most places but if you live in that area it would be madness to not pay for the fire protection. Apart from anything else I can't imaging any insurance company would give you house or contents insurance without proof that you had.

    7. Re:Landlines vs Wireless by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      I get what you're saying, but my expectation would be (given an 'optional' payment like in this case):
      Roll the trucks, put out the blaze.
      Later settle the accounts: You didn't pay the $75, so you were not "insured" as it were. Here is a bill for services, and no it can't be liquidated through Ch7/11/13 because like a tax debt, it is from the government. The bill gets first dibbs on your insurance payout. It would suck, but it seems more sensible.

      My wife's grandfather had a field fire, the dept came and put it out, then sent him a bill for $5K because he was not in their official coverage area. He filed a claim on his insurance and they paid the dept.
      -nB

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    8. Re:Landlines vs Wireless by MrAngryForNoReason · · Score: 1

      That would be reasonable except I can't imagine any insurance company would cover someone in this situation.

      Giving someone insurance against fire damage when they have chosen to forego paying for fire protection would be a hugely irresponsible act for an insurance company.

      So in your hypothetical situation the fire service would be in the position of trying to charge someone, who is already facing extensive costs in repairing fire damage, thousands of dollars for their services.

  23. Next Story.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "32" Touch-screens being stolen from phone booths across NYC."

  24. Appropriate Futurama quote by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

    Bender: Being with you guys is the best time I've ever had. Hey, a suicide booth! So long, suckers!

    Fry: That's not a suicide booth, that's just an ordinary phone booth.

    Leela: What were they for?

    Fry: In New York, public restrooms.

    Leela: I need to stop for a moment.

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  25. Inside a phone booth? by rjejr · · Score: 2

    I have a 32" tv in my bedroom and a 52" tv in my living room, but in a phone booth I think 26" would be more than enough.

  26. Brilliant! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    The screens will display "local neighborhood information, including lists of nearby restaurants, store sales in the area, traffic updates, landmark information and safety alerts — in multiple languages.'

    My goodness, that will be *very* nice for the hour they last before being broken, stolen, covered in graffiti and/or soaked with urine.

    1. Re:Brilliant! by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      [...] traffic updates [...]

      In a Phone Booth!??

      "So I'm driving along and I wonder what traffic is like. So I hop out of my car and check the phone booth. The first thing I see is that some asshole jumped out of his car right on this street and traffic is slowed down. Fortunately, I'm past it.

      Oh wait. It just cleared up. Hey! Where's my car?!"

      Now I know they're reaching. Why in the world would I want traffic updates in a phone booth?!

  27. Another "I'm entitled" kiddie by kiwimate · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The good news is that these screens won't cost the taxpayers anything. The bad news is that they will be supported by advertising.

    So how else would you suggest they be paid for? Fairy dust and happy thoughts? Tell me just why this is bad news...

    1. Re:Another "I'm entitled" kiddie by PeanutButterBreath · · Score: 1

      The good news is that these screens won't cost the taxpayers anything. The bad news is that they will be supported by advertising.

      So how else would you suggest they be paid for?

      How about with money from people who want to use the service provided by these booths?

  28. There are still payphones? by cvtan · · Score: 1

    Are we all living in MeTV?

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  29. Giant Touchscreens soon to be stolen.... by who_stole_my_kidneys · · Score: 1

    from NYC pay phone booths. Seriously this was not thought out well.

  30. huh? by spirit_fingers · · Score: 1

    What the hell is a phone booth?

  31. pay phones replaced with touch screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Graffiti incrusted, urine soaked touch screen...hmmm GREAT IDEA!

  32. The vandals will make quick work of these... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know how much of an issue this is in NYC, but in most metro areas of Phoenix, just about every single gas pump display, bathroom mirrors, etc. are constantly vandalized. The wannabe and the real gang bangers use keys (and god knows what else) to scratch their mostly illegible gang acronyms on just about everything. More and more public bathrooms don't even have mirrors anymore, because they get so heavily scratched up with gang banger tagging/scratching. Hell, I've even seen them using acid to etch their gang banger crap into windows of a business. The only place you mostly don't see it is the retirement community areas, but they are by no means exempt from the chronic vandalism. It's quite sad.

  33. 2 days at best by gelfling · · Score: 1

    Then when half of them are smashed and the other half are stolen.....Anyway ARE there any pay phones anymore? And if they build this crap, what will a call cost? $8?

  34. Current conditions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have these people looked at the current pay phone conditions? HA Touchscreen! Really!?!

  35. WHAT New York City Phone Booths ??? by curmudgeon99 · · Score: 1

    So, they're going to do this for all six pay phones in New York City? I should clarify to mean working pay phones. The subways are full of the derelict hulks of formerly working pay phones. Across the five boroughs, pay phones--especially working ones--are as scarce as hen's teeth. Actual step-inside phone booths are even less abundant.

  36. Size matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone get the feeling that when they say a 32 inch screen, they actually mean a 32 square inch screen, as in an 8" by 4" rectangle? Or maybe it's just me that would be hard pressed to but my bedroom TV in a phone booth.

  37. Wasted on NYC by PPH · · Score: 1

    In London, it could make tart cards interesting.

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  38. 90 cents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    90 cents of every local tax dollar in upstate NY goes to NYC (http://nysac.org/legislation.php) and this is how they spend it? Well worth the effort.

  39. Outdated by Hentes · · Score: 1

    About as useful as putting a microusb port on a stoneaxe.

  40. Re:At least I'll be entertained... but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine an image of yourself, from head to toe, and being able to drag&drop knives, chainsaws, various injection needles, razor blades, flamethrowers and whatnot to select how you want to go...

    That's why.

  41. Good Idea, likely bad results to follow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its novel idea re-using old Telephone Booths. However, like everyone else said above...there alot to be said about theft of these unique devices, keep them from infecting people touch those touch-screens. I remember reading in one of NYC's Apple stores that they found number of pretty bad virus on the demo-IPADs or IPhones they had. I can't begin to imagine how bad this will be if this rolls out.

    Its going be novelity, depending on how much effort police these booths from being abused or worse, will fade away.

  42. wha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    usb you say? you have just made me a very rich man

  43. what-phone? by atari2600a · · Score: 1

    You mean people pay to use a phone that's not theirs & also has bird flu & bum pee on it?

  44. meanwhile, in Belgium... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Giant touchscreen are already all over Bruxelles Central train station. They are not seeing much use, despite relatively friendly software that looks vaguely iPhone-like.