Seconded.
I feel a deep compassion for people who've suffered so much and have become cynical because of it - which will probably bring more suffering in turn.
But they should know their experience is not everybody's.
This approach reminds me of the way they tried to control rabbit overpopulation on a small island south of New Zealand.
Settlers introduced rabbits as a source of food. Of course rabbits, without predators, multiplied out of control destroying much of the local vegetation. They tried to control their population by introducing feral cats. Of course the feral cats preyed on the local fauna as well, decimating it. Finally, they had to hunt down the feral cats and now the rabbit population is back to previous numbers.
Can we afford blunders of this kind on a global scale?
I see your point.
Of course models have limits. Science itself has limits, that's all I know. I plead ignorant as I am not a scientist of sort, I don't have a scientific education background and my maths grades were awful in high school so I don't believe I have many chances (will and time) to understand the science behind models and so on.
However, I profoundly doubt whatever comes out of the Heartland's mouths as they are notorious for warping information for corporate gain and I respect the work of thousands of climate scientists around the world whose independent research is pointing out - whatever the differences - to one conclusion.
One dumb lobster trick is that if you hold a lobster with one hand on gripping its back it will struggle and twist to get free but if you move it close to you other arm or leg it will grab your arm and feel safe because it's feet are gripping something.
One dumb human trick when they see a tiger is trying run away. Of course they don't know that we tigers can run way faster than them and we always manage to catch them. The funny thing is that when you finally claw them they still try to fight! I, as a tiger, I am not entirely sure humans know they are alive, let alone feel pain. I think I'll have human steak for dinner tonight.
Why not? If you then get a job in a related field I have nothing to object. It's full of weirdos out there, some with a weirdo PhD would only be easily recognisable.
However, I wouldn't be that happy if you chose to teach my children.
The Hockey Stick graph is not something you believe in or not. It is data records backed by most of the most prestigious scientific bodies in the world. Besides, it is just one of the countless elements used in trying to explain why our climate is changing so rapidly in such a short amount of time. To dismiss the theory of anthropogenic climate change, it's not enough to counter one of the points. You'll have to counter most of them and offer a better explanation.
Sure, the Earth was much hotter when dinosaurs were around. Then again, it was a climate which suited them. Homo Sapiens evolved in a cooler climate.
If there's a chance we can prevent the global climate from going back to the time of dinosaurs, why not acting?
Parent is all but a troll.
If you disagree with parent, it doesn't mean he's a troll. If you disagree with parent please write down your ideas (not that I care) or shut up.
creating more ridiculous laws, rules and regulations rather than simply enforcing what's already in place
This is exactly what's been happening all the time in Italy. Politicians make laws and they have to show everybody they work so they can be re-elected.
Actually, the 3 T's are Tiananmen Square, Tibet and Taiwan. Ah, and don't forget to mention the Dalai Lama.
Have I got through?
Seriously though, I teach. I never mention them in the classroom. If somebody else does, I just change the topic. As I know, in each class there is one student appointed by the PCC.
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I'd just like to mention that Dow Chemical are the ones who owned Union Carbide. Y'know, the ones who killed around 25,000 people in a chemical plant accident in Bhopal, India. I wouldn't buy a pinhead from them.
So now it seems the global warming theory can have its ice and melt it too.
You're wrong. Images from NASA.
Seconded. I feel a deep compassion for people who've suffered so much and have become cynical because of it - which will probably bring more suffering in turn. But they should know their experience is not everybody's.
This approach reminds me of the way they tried to control rabbit overpopulation on a small island south of New Zealand. Settlers introduced rabbits as a source of food. Of course rabbits, without predators, multiplied out of control destroying much of the local vegetation. They tried to control their population by introducing feral cats. Of course the feral cats preyed on the local fauna as well, decimating it. Finally, they had to hunt down the feral cats and now the rabbit population is back to previous numbers. Can we afford blunders of this kind on a global scale?
I see your point.
Of course models have limits. Science itself has limits, that's all I know. I plead ignorant as I am not a scientist of sort, I don't have a scientific education background and my maths grades were awful in high school so I don't believe I have many chances (will and time) to understand the science behind models and so on.
However, I profoundly doubt whatever comes out of the Heartland's mouths as they are notorious for warping information for corporate gain and I respect the work of thousands of climate scientists around the world whose independent research is pointing out - whatever the differences - to one conclusion.
Do you know who the Heartland are?
One dumb lobster trick is that if you hold a lobster with one hand on gripping its back it will struggle and twist to get free but if you move it close to you other arm or leg it will grab your arm and feel safe because it's feet are gripping something.
One dumb human trick when they see a tiger is trying run away. Of course they don't know that we tigers can run way faster than them and we always manage to catch them. The funny thing is that when you finally claw them they still try to fight! I, as a tiger, I am not entirely sure humans know they are alive, let alone feel pain. I think I'll have human steak for dinner tonight.
Why not? If you then get a job in a related field I have nothing to object. It's full of weirdos out there, some with a weirdo PhD would only be easily recognisable. However, I wouldn't be that happy if you chose to teach my children.
The Hockey Stick graph is not something you believe in or not. It is data records backed by most of the most prestigious scientific bodies in the world. Besides, it is just one of the countless elements used in trying to explain why our climate is changing so rapidly in such a short amount of time. To dismiss the theory of anthropogenic climate change, it's not enough to counter one of the points. You'll have to counter most of them and offer a better explanation.
Sure, the Earth was much hotter when dinosaurs were around. Then again, it was a climate which suited them. Homo Sapiens evolved in a cooler climate. If there's a chance we can prevent the global climate from going back to the time of dinosaurs, why not acting?
True, but the same risks - minus the radioactive waste - applies whenever you build a nuclear power station.
Parent is all but a troll. If you disagree with parent, it doesn't mean he's a troll. If you disagree with parent please write down your ideas (not that I care) or shut up.
I also agree with most of what you say except one thing:
one big problem with the envirowacko movement, they always want things RIGHT NOW, they never can understand that you have to change things over time
Yes, only that "envirowackos" have been pushing for renewable energy for decades now.
creating more ridiculous laws, rules and regulations rather than simply enforcing what's already in place
This is exactly what's been happening all the time in Italy. Politicians make laws and they have to show everybody they work so they can be re-elected.
I meant, since you mentioned the 3 T's you might as well mention the Dalai Lama too.
I have a few members of my class who happily say they want to be party members.
And that's because being a party member is the only way of getting anywhere in this country.
But let's change the topic now...
appointed by the PCC
CCP actually, sorry for the typo.
Actually, the 3 T's are Tiananmen Square, Tibet and Taiwan. Ah, and don't forget to mention the Dalai Lama.
Have I got through?
Seriously though, I teach. I never mention them in the classroom. If somebody else does, I just change the topic. As I know, in each class there is one student appointed by the PCC.
Mod parent up. I live there. I can confirm.