Yeah, but if you sue anyone to keep them from writing or using an OSI-licensed software with this clause in it, you lose all rights to use ANY software with this clause in it. This is a very interesting idea.
I'm sorry, but I have a serious problem with anybody saying what I can do on my computer.
If thoughts along side those such as yours continue along in the community then the day might come where some palladium system is implemented not by Microsoft but by Open Source advocates instead.
To "protect" their interests you know.
As I said, my computer, my hard drive, buzz off.
Restrict my right to APPLY those patents to my OWN creations, but limit what I can do on my own computer? No way. Wrong.
If somebody could elaborate the differences between 2k and XP. I'm don't really know much about what's different besides the cosmetic changes and the addition of extra crap (iMovie-esque things). And in this case, I really would like to know (out of curiosity mostly) what is different in XP that might make it more secure.
*sigh* Ok I'll bite.
XP is basically (and has been referred to on occasion by MS as) NT5.1 . Windows 2000 is using the NT5.0 kernel.
XP has had a few speed optimizations here and there as well as some built in "performance boosters" such as automatically defraging and optimizing the boot hard drive when the computer it otherwise idle.
All of this was basically necessary to implement so as to hide how the extra five hundred megabytes of bloat that came just with adding TWO features to Windows XP;
Skins and user switching.
(Yes, it took MS 500 megabytes to add those two features. Go figure.)
Oddly enough even XP pro lacks some of the functionality of Windows 2000. The ability to Lock a workstation is gone (Doh!), or at least hidden some wheres far far away. Horrible for security.
Also killing Explorer.exe in Task Manager is now A Serious Ordeal where as in Windows 2000 it was just another ho-hum task. I have seen killing Explorer.exe bring down an entire Windows XP system.
Some minor encasements to USB Mass Storage was made, and Internet Explorer 6 was shipped by default. There is also a cheesy personal firewall included with XP Home, but it hardly counts as a true security feature.
The Windows 2000 shell can actually be swapped out easily enough and another shell can be dropped in there. The Win9x line is the same way, very customizable. MS seems dedicated towards working against this though and integrating everything into one tight mess of tangled dependencies.
Oh yah, and XP likes telling you what to do. At least in Windows 2000 it was possible to beat some sense into the Machine, but in XP. . . . well the beating is still theoretically possible, but finding the sensitive spot to pound on is not quite as easy as it was with Windows 2000.
Also, like I said.. no Windows buff, but.. wouldn't the 9x stuff be less secure than NT/2k? Or is 9x just less stable, while the NT/2k stuff has more holes?
There is normally a pretty steady correlation between security holes and stability. When you have one, odds are that the other can be found to. Sloppy code is sloppy code.
That said, Windows 9x is both unstable and full of security holes. Quite frankly the poor thing was never meant to go 32bit, mine as well be forced onto the Internet and be made to play around with T1/3s doing DDoS attacks.
98 is rather fun in that you can do almost anything to it and it will take it in stride though.:-D I once set command.com as my shell, hehe, I had access to the full DirectX libraries and all that buuut. . . .:)
Really, nobody ever took full advantage of 98, hehe. Active Desktop could have done some nifty things.;) (if only it was not so crash prone. . ..)
AutoCAD users.. for one thing.. some people need good 2d AND good 3d...
You are talking about professional level 3d cards.
That is outside of this discussion, Nvidia's offerings in this category are rather, err, dismal (The Quatro line is known more for its high price then its high performance), and the Raedon line of chips never has been intended to compete in this category.
Though many others in this stories comment section have commented on the difference between professional and consumer level 3D cards. Basically the difference is the quality of the final render, Professional cards are happy targeting 20 or 30FPS with no rendering errors. Consumer level cards go for the triple digit frame per second numbers even at the expense of visual quality or mathematical accuracy.
CAD/CAM users like Matrox. When dealing with lots of little lines on a screen, it is easier on the eyes if each line is nice and crisp and clear.:)
Cable modem, upstream is just 16KBp/s, now 32KBp/s.
Sure downstream is fast as hell (if I get less then 200KBp/s I start bitching, before ATTBI took over and instituted caps I bitched at less then 500KBp/s.:-D ), but upstream. . . . bleh
First, you left out Matrox, who were never innovators but who are still around.
Huh?
Cubic Bump mapping.
Dual Head
Tri-Head
The ability to shove in how ever many G200 cards your motherboard could fit and power a huge ass screen with them.
(IBM loved that last one)
Or how about a DECENT image reduction system? I can have one screen running at 800x600@72 hertz and a second screen running at 640x480@75hz in clone mode and things look great.
Which is rather odd.:-D
One of the first companies to offer video out on a consumer level board. At an affordable price.
Then there is the matching up with their Video Editing packages.
Oh, and then there is the entire KICK ASS IMAGE QUALITY thing.
Through granted that it mostly just a case of doing what others do but doing it better then everybody else does it.:-D
Their drivers also have SOOOO many features in them that I cannot even begin to describe the sheer level of ass-kickingness that they are. They do everything. Period. Including having the functionality of some multi-hundred dollar dedicated programs. Sweet.
Oh, and Matrox also still supports the good old command line, for when the user decides to do something that, err, really messes up the screen.;)
With my Matrox G400 Dual Head MAX card, I have piped out my secondary display to a VCR, had the VCR signal then piped back into the computer though a TV-Capture card, and then had the secondary display showup in the middle of my desktop on my primary monitor.
Rather freaky to drag things off the side of one monitor and have them appear in the middle of that very same monitor.:-D
Now sure other cards could do this, but with my Matrox card I was able to finely tune the image going to the second output until I had precisly the result that I wanted. (thus why I was running it through the TV-In card, to do an image check)
Matrox is in the same position but they focused way too much on 2D performance and have never caught up with modern 3D cards.
Catch up? Why in the world would Matrox want to "catch up"?
While I think that Matrox could benefit from releasing an amazing new 2D card of some sort, some type of integrated Video In and TV encoder that is of some insanely high quality, and jack up their RAMDACs a few notches, besides that, err,
They own at 2D. You want to do Desktop [graphics/publishing/CAD/CAM] work of any sort? You get a Matrox.
Good luck *getting* non-palladium media. Once this is out, the only pirated stuff you'll be able to get will be the old stuff.
Hehehehe, hardly. Unless they find a way to completely ditch the DVD standard and get people to switch over to something new Really Soon Now. ^_^
Not to mention that a goodly number of pirated videos are "screeners" meaning that it is a camera doing the work, with the data then dumped to a computer and compressed to whatever format.
And, with a palladium system, they could probably make it impossible to play non-palladium protected media files.
No, this would not work. Grandma would be pissed when she is unable to view pictures of Her Grand Kids on Her brand new Windows2004 Intel/AMD whatever computer.
Either that, or just disabled Palladium in the BIOS (as long as you can do this still. . . . not that I put too much faith in this "feature" ) and skip over the protected media files.
I mean who in the world wants to watch media that they have to PAY for any ways?:-D
Seriously though, you want to prevent this? Start backing independent artists RIGHT NOW DAMNIT any longer and it is going to be too late.
Get the independent artists to using current non-restricted media formats, show them that it can work to make them money, help to create an alternative infrastructures a content sources.
And, if the police gave me a photo of a wanted porn merchant, I would turn him in if he walked into my store.
How would you feel if you where legally obliged to turn him in? What if you where just required to call the police if any "suspects" on a given "list" walked into your store? (but you where assured that they where all very very evil people?)
But... that's not prosecuted at all. The FBI isn't going to touch a child-porn case unless it's blatant. They aren't I see the point you're trying to make, but you kinda just blew yourself away right outta the gate.
You kidding? Government agencies LOVE to look important, the more arrests/convictions the better. Hell, the FBI is the number one distributor of child pornography in the united states as it is, and they are also the ones with the most complete collection of child pornography photos. Since very few new actual child pornography photos are being made, they need to make up as many cases as they can.
I used to (~2 years ago) not get a SINGLE piece of spam.
I put my e-mail address out though, now I get 4 or 5 pieces a day. *shrugs* I am just ultraparanoid.:) As such my e-mail address, even after being posted PLAINTEXT on/. for 2 months, was hardly spread around at all.
Oh, yes, supporting all of the different connectors would be a hassle if you go for actual emulation of the cartridges.
Nah, not really. I have seen various SNES/NES/GB all in one cartridges for the SNES, so to get your remaining 8-bit mid eighties / early nineties systems covered you would just need your Genesis and Masterdrive cartridges shoved on some how.
Also, it is pretty weak to justify theft by saying you're building brand loyalty.
Tell that to MS and the copy of Office that comes with damn nearly every new (OEM) home PC.
MS gives the OEMs a large discount on Office for a reason. At this point in time users are either going to pirate it or purchase it if it did not come with their PC, and at first glance it would seem like MS could make more money from having users purchase the software directly then having the users acquire it through the OEM, buuuuut;
MS saw how IBM gained control of the Home market. It was not by having a superior home PC (IBM had one of the WORST home PCs out there on the market. . ..) but rather, by having control of the BUSINESS place as as well as the workplace.
Now that MS is entrenched in both, it is helping to ensure that they keep ahold of the work place by keeping the home market saturated. As long as a company's employees can freely bring their work back and forth from the office to home, there is no likely reason for either the home or the office to change to a different line of products.
Do you really think that MS gives a care that half of new users pirate Office for their at home use? (if they do then they are stuuupiiiiid. . . ..) Keeping the workplace and the home synchronized program wise is a Good Thing. Brand loyalty works, even at the expense of short term immediate profits. And quite frankly with how Office is doing, MS is looong past any worries about short term profits, marketing strategies for Office started to pay off long ago.
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Yeah, but if you sue anyone to keep them from writing or using an OSI-licensed software with this clause in it, you lose all rights to use ANY software with this clause in it. This is a very interesting idea.
I'm sorry, but I have a serious problem with anybody saying what I can do on my computer.
If thoughts along side those such as yours continue along in the community then the day might come where some palladium system is implemented not by Microsoft but by Open Source advocates instead.
To "protect" their interests you know.
As I said, my computer, my hard drive, buzz off.
Restrict my right to APPLY those patents to my OWN creations, but limit what I can do on my own computer? No way. Wrong.
*sigh*
Some other options are to downgrade to Windows 98, get a free operating system such as Linux
Reformat that as a bulleted list;
Your options are as follows:
-Downgrade to Windows 98
-Get a free operating system such as Linux.
Notice the placement of the comma?
Once again
Some other options are to downgrade to Windows 98--*,*-- get a free operating system such as Linux
If somebody could elaborate the differences between 2k and XP. I'm don't really know much about what's different besides the cosmetic changes and the addition of extra crap (iMovie-esque things). And in this case, I really would like to know (out of curiosity mostly) what is different in XP that might make it more secure.
:-D I once set command.com as my shell, hehe, I had access to the full DirectX libraries and all that buuut. . . . :)
;) (if only it was not so crash prone. . . .)
*sigh* Ok I'll bite.
XP is basically (and has been referred to on occasion by MS as) NT5.1 . Windows 2000 is using the NT5.0 kernel.
XP has had a few speed optimizations here and there as well as some built in "performance boosters" such as automatically defraging and optimizing the boot hard drive when the computer it otherwise idle.
All of this was basically necessary to implement so as to hide how the extra five hundred megabytes of bloat that came just with adding TWO features to Windows XP;
Skins and user switching.
(Yes, it took MS 500 megabytes to add those two features. Go figure.)
Oddly enough even XP pro lacks some of the functionality of Windows 2000. The ability to Lock a workstation is gone (Doh!), or at least hidden some wheres far far away. Horrible for security.
Also killing Explorer.exe in Task Manager is now A Serious Ordeal where as in Windows 2000 it was just another ho-hum task. I have seen killing Explorer.exe bring down an entire Windows XP system.
Some minor encasements to USB Mass Storage was made, and Internet Explorer 6 was shipped by default. There is also a cheesy personal firewall included with XP Home, but it hardly counts as a true security feature.
The Windows 2000 shell can actually be swapped out easily enough and another shell can be dropped in there. The Win9x line is the same way, very customizable. MS seems dedicated towards working against this though and integrating everything into one tight mess of tangled dependencies.
Oh yah, and XP likes telling you what to do. At least in Windows 2000 it was possible to beat some sense into the Machine, but in XP. . . . well the beating is still theoretically possible, but finding the sensitive spot to pound on is not quite as easy as it was with Windows 2000.
Also, like I said.. no Windows buff, but.. wouldn't the 9x stuff be less secure than NT/2k? Or is 9x just less stable, while the NT/2k stuff has more holes?
There is normally a pretty steady correlation between security holes and stability. When you have one, odds are that the other can be found to. Sloppy code is sloppy code.
That said, Windows 9x is both unstable and full of security holes. Quite frankly the poor thing was never meant to go 32bit, mine as well be forced onto the Internet and be made to play around with T1/3s doing DDoS attacks.
98 is rather fun in that you can do almost anything to it and it will take it in stride though.
Really, nobody ever took full advantage of 98, hehe. Active Desktop could have done some nifty things.
AutoCAD users.. for one thing..
:)
some people need good 2d AND good 3d...
You are talking about professional level 3d cards.
That is outside of this discussion, Nvidia's offerings in this category are rather, err, dismal (The Quatro line is known more for its high price then its high performance), and the Raedon line of chips never has been intended to compete in this category.
Though many others in this stories comment section have commented on the difference between professional and consumer level 3D cards. Basically the difference is the quality of the final render, Professional cards are happy targeting 20 or 30FPS with no rendering errors. Consumer level cards go for the triple digit frame per second numbers even at the expense of visual quality or mathematical accuracy.
CAD/CAM users like Matrox. When dealing with lots of little lines on a screen, it is easier on the eyes if each line is nice and crisp and clear.
MS's own programs for RDC also are slow so. . . . .
Cable modem, upstream is just 16KBp/s, now 32KBp/s.
:-D ), but upstream. . . . bleh
Sure downstream is fast as hell (if I get less then 200KBp/s I start bitching, before ATTBI took over and instituted caps I bitched at less then 500KBp/s.
TightVNC makes a remote graphical desktop quite usable over DSL speeds.
At 16KiloBytes per second, TightVNC is a pain in the ass to use for Windows.
At 32KiloBytes per second TightVNC is STILL a pain in the ass to use for Windows.
Rather irritating.
(not that Netmeeting is much better, bleh!)
First, you left out Matrox, who were never innovators but who are still around.
:-D
:-D
;)
:-D
Huh?
Cubic Bump mapping.
Dual Head
Tri-Head
The ability to shove in how ever many G200 cards your motherboard could fit and power a huge ass screen with them.
(IBM loved that last one)
Or how about a DECENT image reduction system? I can have one screen running at 800x600@72 hertz and a second screen running at 640x480@75hz in clone mode and things look great.
Which is rather odd.
One of the first companies to offer video out on a consumer level board. At an affordable price.
Then there is the matching up with their Video Editing packages.
Oh, and then there is the entire KICK ASS IMAGE QUALITY thing.
Through granted that it mostly just a case of doing what others do but doing it better then everybody else does it.
Their drivers also have SOOOO many features in them that I cannot even begin to describe the sheer level of ass-kickingness that they are. They do everything. Period. Including having the functionality of some multi-hundred dollar dedicated programs. Sweet.
Oh, and Matrox also still supports the good old command line, for when the user decides to do something that, err, really messes up the screen.
With my Matrox G400 Dual Head MAX card, I have piped out my secondary display to a VCR, had the VCR signal then piped back into the computer though a TV-Capture card, and then had the secondary display showup in the middle of my desktop on my primary monitor.
Rather freaky to drag things off the side of one monitor and have them appear in the middle of that very same monitor.
Now sure other cards could do this, but with my Matrox card I was able to finely tune the image going to the second output until I had precisly the result that I wanted. (thus why I was running it through the TV-In card, to do an image check)
I have run UT on my Riva128, so bleh! :)
Matrox is in the same position but they focused way too much on 2D performance and have never caught up with modern 3D cards.
Catch up? Why in the world would Matrox want to "catch up"?
While I think that Matrox could benefit from releasing an amazing new 2D card of some sort, some type of integrated Video In and TV encoder that is of some insanely high quality, and jack up their RAMDACs a few notches, besides that, err,
They own at 2D. You want to do Desktop [graphics/publishing/CAD/CAM] work of any sort? You get a Matrox.
Oh, and drivers.
They own. And they work to boot.
On the flip side, various freeware and shareware programs to create multi-desktops in Windows have been around since Windows 3.1
For that matter I have a few multiple console progies for DOS. . . . heh
Good luck *getting* non-palladium media. Once this is out, the only pirated stuff you'll be able to get will be the old stuff.
:-D
Hehehehe, hardly. Unless they find a way to completely ditch the DVD standard and get people to switch over to something new Really Soon Now. ^_^
Not to mention that a goodly number of pirated videos are "screeners" meaning that it is a camera doing the work, with the data then dumped to a computer and compressed to whatever format.
And, with a palladium system, they could probably make it impossible to play non-palladium protected media files.
No, this would not work. Grandma would be pissed when she is unable to view pictures of Her Grand Kids on Her brand new Windows2004 Intel/AMD whatever computer.
Either that, or just disabled Palladium in the BIOS (as long as you can do this still. . . . not that I put too much faith in this "feature" ) and skip over the protected media files.
I mean who in the world wants to watch media that they have to PAY for any ways?
Seriously though, you want to prevent this? Start backing independent artists RIGHT NOW DAMNIT any longer and it is going to be too late.
Get the independent artists to using current non-restricted media formats, show them that it can work to make them money, help to create an alternative infrastructures a content sources.
If you turn it off, you will be unable to use Palladium protected media,
.
:-D
For some reason I have the strong suspicion that most pirated videos or MP3s will NOT be Palladium protected. . .
Call it a huntch.
And, if the police gave me a photo of a wanted porn merchant, I would turn him in if he walked into my store.
How would you feel if you where legally obliged to turn him in? What if you where just required to call the police if any "suspects" on a given "list" walked into your store? (but you where assured that they where all very very evil people?)
But... that's not prosecuted at all. The FBI isn't going to touch a child-porn case unless it's blatant. They aren't I see the point you're trying to make, but you kinda just blew yourself away right outta the gate.
You kidding? Government agencies LOVE to look important, the more arrests/convictions the better. Hell, the FBI is the number one distributor of child pornography in the united states as it is, and they are also the ones with the most complete collection of child pornography photos. Since very few new actual child pornography photos are being made, they need to make up as many cases as they can.
Bleh!
:o
6673277
What spam?
:) As such my e-mail address, even after being posted PLAINTEXT on /. for 2 months, was hardly spread around at all.
I used to (~2 years ago) not get a SINGLE piece of spam.
I put my e-mail address out though, now I get 4 or 5 pieces a day. *shrugs* I am just ultraparanoid.
Hell man, screw that, here is a far better off;
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Bid now and I will throw in the 7 digit ICQ PIN.
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Oh, yes, supporting all of the different connectors would be a hassle if you go for actual emulation of the cartridges.
Nah, not really. I have seen various SNES/NES/GB all in one cartridges for the SNES, so to get your remaining 8-bit mid eighties / early nineties systems covered you would just need your Genesis and Masterdrive cartridges shoved on some how.
Nothing, you have done more then enough already. . . . .
(just get the heck off the net already and leave us alone!)
Boot a DOS floppy and try again, you'll lose a whole 3 minutes
Floppy?
Oh wait, sorry, don't have a floppy drive.
If they cannot even write a program to update firmware in their CD-ROM drive properly. . . .
Then how can it do presentations? I wanted to make PowerPoint presentations. I was told Linux could do that. How do I make it print envelopes?
Don't laugh, I got this one from a person yesterday.
Bleh.
Uh, you can't compare different genres and types of media like that.
Types of media?
Err.
Music.
Auditory.
Same type of media.
Sure a live orchestra is great, but DJ-made recordings are just as good in their own way.
Hey, watch, I will compare genres again.
rap sucks donkey balls, Classical music does not.
Tada! It is a miracle!
Bleh.
Using your reasoning I could fart into a tin can, record the sound, and call it its "own" genre of music and lay waste to all who challenged me.
Err, no.
When you steal it anyway and make lame justifications for it that just shows you feel guilty about doing it and know it's wrong.
:-D
So if I don't justify it, it is alright?
I forget the name of the particular logical fallicy that you invoked, but it is a rather common one.
"Well if you say you didn't then obviously you are lying so you did! And if you say you did then you did! So you are guilty no matter what!"
Bleh.
Also, it is pretty weak to justify theft by saying you're building brand loyalty.
.) but rather, by having control of the BUSINESS place as as well as the workplace.
.) Keeping the workplace and the home synchronized program wise is a Good Thing. Brand loyalty works, even at the expense of short term immediate profits. And quite frankly with how Office is doing, MS is looong past any worries about short term profits, marketing strategies for Office started to pay off long ago.
Tell that to MS and the copy of Office that comes with damn nearly every new (OEM) home PC.
MS gives the OEMs a large discount on Office for a reason. At this point in time users are either going to pirate it or purchase it if it did not come with their PC, and at first glance it would seem like MS could make more money from having users purchase the software directly then having the users acquire it through the OEM, buuuuut;
MS saw how IBM gained control of the Home market. It was not by having a superior home PC (IBM had one of the WORST home PCs out there on the market. . .
Now that MS is entrenched in both, it is helping to ensure that they keep ahold of the work place by keeping the home market saturated. As long as a company's employees can freely bring their work back and forth from the office to home, there is no likely reason for either the home or the office to change to a different line of products.
Do you really think that MS gives a care that half of new users pirate Office for their at home use? (if they do then they are stuuupiiiiid. . . .