There is no difference if it results in a potential loss of sales or revenue.
Yah, and like some 13 year old kid is going to be able to afford the latest version of a multi-thousand dollar software suite?
Hell no.
But in ten or so years that 13 year old kid may very well be in charge of purchase orders for a 3D studio, and guess what software that kid is going to want to work with?
The stuff the kid already knows. Whether it was learned legaly or not is besides the point.
So then why are Adobe products, most of which are considerably cheaper than USD$895, the most pirated on the 'Net? Same thing with games, and most games cost a small percentage of USD$895 -- yet people still pirate them like crazy.
Compare the markets.
$895 is cheap / low priced for a high end 3d modeler. Within the rather small group of people who can / are interested in using it, most are willing to pay for it or are able to get it at a student's discount price.
Photoshop is a, err, ah, rather handy program for many people to have. Compared to the (rather small. . ..) market of medium level 2D image manipulation programs. Photoshop is the top of the group, and that is the one that gets pirated the most. The one that people want and that is the best.
Far less people pirate, say. Painter 6. Hehe.:-D
And games BENEFIT from piracy, for instance I pirated Warcraft 2 (original), then ended up buying Starcraft, Starcraft Brood Wars, and receiving Warcraft 2 Battle.Net edition as a present. Had I not pirated Warcraft 2 to begin with I likely would not have become addicted to their games.;)
Remember that most people pirating software are too young to afford to buy that software.
Oh and for the record, my current copies of Rhino3D, Photoshop, and *shivers* Illustrator, are all legal.:)
AFAIK IANAL, before the DMCA, cracking software was perfectly legal, as was using software cracks and keygens in cases where it was possible to legally get ahold of one version of another of the software. (such as say, a limited save demo, and then crack it to remove the save limit.)
The popular "pro-warez" argument is that if software companies made big-ticket products (for example, Photoshop) available for a lower cost, the demand for warez would drop. As someone in the know, do you think that's at all true?
I can tell you right now that that is true.
McNeel software makes a 3D modeling program called Rhino3d. It costs $895 full, or $195 academic.
Please compare that to Maya or 3D Studio Max.
Nearly every half arses Warez site on the net carries even the smallest over priced 3D program, but Rhino3D? Hell, even some of the warezers will tell you to stop being a cheap ass and to just go out and buy it.
I do too need more CPU power, I want to play around with four dimensional fractals, and I need at least a 25x-30x speed increase to get anything near real time renderings. Hell if I want to work with them in a resolution higher then 320x240 then I need at least a 100x increase in CPU power.
The RIAA buys cheap young performers because they are, err, cheap, young, and marketable. Quite frankly talent matters little. Hell even heavy metal enthuaists will admit that most of their favorite band singer's cannot actualy sing worth a crud.
Oh, and please, stop comparing programming techniques to musicial performances. The analogy does not work.
One can tell if a musical performer sucks or not, musical performances tend to be Analog someplace or another along the line. (well except for some Techno but. . . .:-P ), where as software either works, works like shit, works but is slow as shit, or just does not work.
Really after one of those criteria are met, I don't give a shit about HOW the software was programmed, how it WORKS is pretty much enough for me.
But then heya, if some person studied a piece of music for 17 years, went to play it, and sucked, I'd say they sucked, regardless of how long they studied it.:-D
I should write my code in assembler and never use anyone elses code or libraries.
Yeh we need some more people doing that, I only have libjpeg but i want a statically compiled propritory image format in each application.
"We can see as far as we can today, because we stand of the shoulders of giants."
You are comparing apples to peanut brittle.
No, wait, make that apples to a Philly Cheese Steak Sandwich.
While both kick ass, I would not try to use the same preparation instructions for both of them.
See, music DOES borrow from others, heck many techniques and methodologies have been passed down from one great Grand Master to the next. Does that mean they are stolen? Heck no, it just means that an ideology was employed/i> in both songs, originated in one, and used once again in the second.
Code is the same way.
A timer function may be used in Application A to count down how much time the player has left until their simulated city goes down the toilet from a nuclear meltdown, and then used again in Application B to set off an alarm at a scheduled time of day every day and shows the User how much time they have left until that particular alarm is triggered.
Though I am just using a Timer as an example, obviously a highly simplified example of a function, though a library to save JPEGs or such is the same way. Be it saving screen shots from a game with hard coded settings plugged in there automatically, or all the variables left open to the user to play around with when saving files from their image editing application.
Same library, two completely separate programs.
But now to jump back to the first example, if somebody just DIRECTLY ripped off the timer + font and used the same alarm sound as the game had and popped up a "Your city is now a slag heap" message, well;
I would not call that a very useful Alarm program, though I would call it one hell of a rip off.
Because that would require learning music, writing and composing songs, playing an instrument, and maybe even developing a talent. Not a very efficient process, time-wise...
Can I get an Amen out here? Come on now, you all know this is true, most modern musicians can't sing, can't write lyrics, and if you go to rappers, cannot even play an instrument. (at all, not that a rocker pounding on a guitar plugged into an insanely overpowered amp is anything resembling playing)
There is a reason that traditionally the entire composing VS playing this is separate.
Oh yah, and, to boot, I might add that real musicians STUDY for a longer period of TIME then many of the pop so called "artists" have even been ALIVE.
That right there should tell people something about the quality of the "music" that they are getting. . . .
Now, 36 to the third power equals 46,656 distinct melodies. No other melodies are possible in the Western musical scale.
Welcome to the world of Digital, why the hell are you still obeying such arbitrary and out dated dogma?
I predict that the next big phase shift will be artists just manipulating SIN waves directly, many real time alternative performances already do this, the only real limiting factor is that a genius great enough has yet to come along. Imagine thinking of a song and just typing it in to the computer directly, no notes, just pure mathematical harmony.
Yah sure the brain power required would be enormous, but it would only take one great musician doing such to take the world by storm and pretty much force other musicians up to that level.
Does anybody really expect that Resampling crappy music is really going to result in anything other then just more crappy music?
Why don't these people put their time to some constructive use and learn how to write actual music on their own, heck, the world could use some actual song writters now days. . . .
Err, hardly so. If I scan the image in at a lower DPI I notice a significant reduction in overall image quality and limits are placed upon how finely I can manipulate the image.
Mind you this is a picture from a fairly high end 35MM camera, I would not give such attention to an image taken with a cheesy disposable camera with images developed at some cheap 1 hour lab.
My D30 images printed professionally are indistinguishable from 35mm prints up to 20x30. Sooooo, you'll have to qualify your statement for me to believe it. Note that the quality of lenses (I use Canon L glass) contributes significantly to image quality.
When printing pictures of what?
of a Landscape far away? Ok sure I'll give you that.
Of a portrait? Well maybe if you do not really want those skin blemishes* to show up. . ..
When scanning 35mm photographs in for reprocessing I typically use 1200DPI minimum, and end up working with images that weigh in at around 50-70MB or so. This is for a 3x5 mind you. . . . for a 20x30, heh. Hell I wouldn't enlarge 35mm to 20x30, yeesh.
Oh, and what are you using to print your images with? I want a photo printer that goes up to 20x30.:-D
*or texture of the material or strands of hair or so forth and so on.
Preplanning and design combined with real time action and on your feet dynamic thinking.
Sounds like a sport to me.
Assloads more entertaining then that garbage that is (american)football. Yueck. Rules rules rules more time-outs then you can shake a stick at, they spend more time waiting to play then actually playing, yeick. Not to mention all that woosy ass protective gear, WTF is up with that shit? Want to make football a worthwhile watch, get rid of all of that penalty shit and just give them some leather helmets and some basic elbow/shin/knee guards and a jockstrap and throw'em on the field. Tell them to get the ball to the opponents end of the field, and let them loose. No freakin penalties, no freakin fouls, and unless somebody goes unconscious NO FREAKING STOPPING THE GAME.
Now that'd be a sport worth watching.
But until the, erhuhrm, humanitarian issues, are worked out, battle bots is the next best thing you are going to get to raw destruction in a sports arena. (well aside from Ultimate Fighting, but wasn't that canceled awhile back? Not to mention that it is pay per view any ways, bleh)
Not to be a troll, but the whole BattleBots concept has gone from new and fun to watch to rather dull within the span of a couple of years. That's why they had to throw Carmen Electra on, right? People weren't watching, and a little sex appeal was required?
I would put it more towards the stupid rules that they had imposed. Stuff like weapons limits and all that.
I stopped watching after last season because I knew that it would just be yet another batch of improvements upon the same old designs with maybe one or two new ideas thrown in there for the mix.
I want my large caliber projectiles and I want them now.
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There is no difference if it results in a potential loss of sales or revenue.
Yah, and like some 13 year old kid is going to be able to afford the latest version of a multi-thousand dollar software suite?
Hell no.
But in ten or so years that 13 year old kid may very well be in charge of purchase orders for a 3D studio, and guess what software that kid is going to want to work with?
The stuff the kid already knows. Whether it was learned legaly or not is besides the point.
So then why are Adobe products, most of which are considerably cheaper than USD$895, the most pirated on the 'Net? Same thing with games, and most games cost a small percentage of USD$895 -- yet people still pirate them like crazy.
.) market of medium level 2D image manipulation programs. Photoshop is the top of the group, and that is the one that gets pirated the most. The one that people want and that is the best.
:-D
;)
:)
Compare the markets.
$895 is cheap / low priced for a high end 3d modeler. Within the rather small group of people who can / are interested in using it, most are willing to pay for it or are able to get it at a student's discount price.
Photoshop is a, err, ah, rather handy program for many people to have. Compared to the (rather small. . .
Far less people pirate, say. Painter 6. Hehe.
And games BENEFIT from piracy, for instance I pirated Warcraft 2 (original), then ended up buying Starcraft, Starcraft Brood Wars, and receiving Warcraft 2 Battle.Net edition as a present. Had I not pirated Warcraft 2 to begin with I likely would not have become addicted to their games.
Remember that most people pirating software are too young to afford to buy that software.
Oh and for the record, my current copies of Rhino3D, Photoshop, and *shivers* Illustrator, are all legal.
AFAIK IANAL, before the DMCA, cracking software was perfectly legal, as was using software cracks and keygens in cases where it was possible to legally get ahold of one version of another of the software. (such as say, a limited save demo, and then crack it to remove the save limit.)
The popular "pro-warez" argument is that if software companies made big-ticket products (for example, Photoshop) available for a lower cost, the demand for warez would drop. As someone in the know, do you think that's at all true?
I can tell you right now that that is true.
McNeel software makes a 3D modeling program called Rhino3d. It costs $895 full, or $195 academic.
Please compare that to Maya or 3D Studio Max.
Nearly every half arses Warez site on the net carries even the smallest over priced 3D program, but Rhino3D? Hell, even some of the warezers will tell you to stop being a cheap ass and to just go out and buy it.
I do too need more CPU power, I want to play around with four dimensional fractals, and I need at least a 25x-30x speed increase to get anything near real time renderings. Hell if I want to work with them in a resolution higher then 320x240 then I need at least a 100x increase in CPU power.
So yah, I'm looking to upgrade. . . .
You think it matters to FK? Damn nearly every active /. reader has him auto-modded up to +5 in the minimum.
;)
He's a force of E-Nature.
Checking the "separate sig lines from comments" box in your /. preferences would sure make your complaining less necessary.
(waaaait, you mean there are users who have NOT checked that little box yet? Odd)
Uhh. . . .
Name a world class orchestra. Really, any one.
Now place them up against Daft Punk / Moby / Who ever.
Orchestra will kick ass.
Hell, a good opera house will kick ass.
For that matter a Master on a lone Grand Piano will kick ass.
Two different things? Says who? You?
:-P ), where as software either works, works like shit, works but is slow as shit, or just does not work.
:-D
The RIAA buys cheap young performers because they are, err, cheap, young, and marketable. Quite frankly talent matters little. Hell even heavy metal enthuaists will admit that most of their favorite band singer's cannot actualy sing worth a crud.
Oh, and please, stop comparing programming techniques to musicial performances. The analogy does not work.
One can tell if a musical performer sucks or not, musical performances tend to be Analog someplace or another along the line. (well except for some Techno but. . . .
Really after one of those criteria are met, I don't give a shit about HOW the software was programmed, how it WORKS is pretty much enough for me.
But then heya, if some person studied a piece of music for 17 years, went to play it, and sucked, I'd say they sucked, regardless of how long they studied it.
*notes this is what he gets for spending to many yaers on a TI calc*
So,
I should write my code in assembler and never use anyone elses code or libraries.
Yeh we need some more people doing that, I only have libjpeg but i want a statically compiled propritory image format in each application.
"We can see as far as we can today, because we stand of the shoulders of giants."
You are comparing apples to peanut brittle.
No, wait, make that apples to a Philly Cheese Steak Sandwich.
While both kick ass, I would not try to use the same preparation instructions for both of them.
See, music DOES borrow from others, heck many techniques and methodologies have been passed down from one great Grand Master to the next. Does that mean they are stolen? Heck no, it just means that an ideology was employed/i> in both songs, originated in one, and used once again in the second.
Code is the same way.
A timer function may be used in Application A to count down how much time the player has left until their simulated city goes down the toilet from a nuclear meltdown, and then used again in Application B to set off an alarm at a scheduled time of day every day and shows the User how much time they have left until that particular alarm is triggered.
Though I am just using a Timer as an example, obviously a highly simplified example of a function, though a library to save JPEGs or such is the same way. Be it saving screen shots from a game with hard coded settings plugged in there automatically, or all the variables left open to the user to play around with when saving files from their image editing application.
Same library, two completely separate programs.
But now to jump back to the first example, if somebody just DIRECTLY ripped off the timer + font and used the same alarm sound as the game had and popped up a "Your city is now a slag heap" message, well;
I would not call that a very useful Alarm program, though I would call it one hell of a rip off.
Because that would require learning music, writing and composing songs, playing an instrument, and maybe even developing a talent. Not a very efficient process, time-wise...
Can I get an Amen out here? Come on now, you all know this is true, most modern musicians can't sing, can't write lyrics, and if you go to rappers, cannot even play an instrument. (at all, not that a rocker pounding on a guitar plugged into an insanely overpowered amp is anything resembling playing)
There is a reason that traditionally the entire composing VS playing this is separate.
Oh yah, and, to boot, I might add that real musicians STUDY for a longer period of TIME then many of the pop so called "artists" have even been ALIVE.
That right there should tell people something about the quality of the "music" that they are getting. . . .
Key phrase here;
Now, 36 to the third power equals 46,656 distinct melodies. No other melodies are possible in the Western musical scale.
Welcome to the world of Digital, why the hell are you still obeying such arbitrary and out dated dogma?
I predict that the next big phase shift will be artists just manipulating SIN waves directly, many real time alternative performances already do this, the only real limiting factor is that a genius great enough has yet to come along. Imagine thinking of a song and just typing it in to the computer directly, no notes, just pure mathematical harmony.
Yah sure the brain power required would be enormous, but it would only take one great musician doing such to take the world by storm and pretty much force other musicians up to that level.
Does anybody really expect that Resampling crappy music is really going to result in anything other then just more crappy music?
Why don't these people put their time to some constructive use and learn how to write actual music on their own, heck, the world could use some actual song writters now days. . . .
I don't think either my Matrox G400 MAX dual head or my Geforce1 SDR will be able to handle this. :-D
1800 sq. feet is twice my two bedroom apartment in Boston, and six times a Studio...
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Oh wow. East coast must suck. . .
1800sq feet is like dismal here in Seattle, heh. A 2500sqft+ house goes for 250k-300k, so. . . . err. . . heh.
Err, hardly so. If I scan the image in at a lower DPI I notice a significant reduction in overall image quality and limits are placed upon how finely I can manipulate the image.
Mind you this is a picture from a fairly high end 35MM camera, I would not give such attention to an image taken with a cheesy disposable camera with images developed at some cheap 1 hour lab.
1800 square feet? Larger then many studio apartments. Heck larger then most studio apartments.
I say setup a decent 'net connection and become a digital hermit. (e-hermit?)
Congrats, somebody discovered macro mode.
:-D
I am speaking of taking a photograph of a person and having the texture and detail in their hair show up.
The image you linked to is nice and all, but, err, double the resolution and then we can get to talking.
*looks at story title*
Oh waaaait,
BTW, I believe you can have large caliber projectile weapons, you just need to tether the projectile and reel it back in after firing.
:(
Bingo, no auto cannons or high payload missiles allowed.
(though the entire ring thing would have to be done away with, heh)
My D30 images printed professionally are indistinguishable from 35mm prints up to 20x30. Sooooo, you'll have to qualify your statement for me to believe it. Note that the quality of lenses (I use Canon L glass) contributes significantly to image quality.
.
:-D
When printing pictures of what?
of a Landscape far away? Ok sure I'll give you that.
Of a portrait? Well maybe if you do not really want those skin blemishes* to show up. . .
When scanning 35mm photographs in for reprocessing I typically use 1200DPI minimum, and end up working with images that weigh in at around 50-70MB or so. This is for a 3x5 mind you. . . . for a 20x30, heh. Hell I wouldn't enlarge 35mm to 20x30, yeesh.
Oh, and what are you using to print your images with? I want a photo printer that goes up to 20x30.
*or texture of the material or strands of hair or so forth and so on.
Beh, troll though it may be;
Moot at Dictionary.com
Yes, M-W.com has it as well, but their site is nto so easy to link to.
Baseball is a game.
whaaaat? Even by your rather silly and arbitrary definiton, baseeball is a sport.
You get your ass up on the mound and pitch 6 or 7 innings and see if your sweating or not.
By your definiton, a person pounding their head against a wll is participatig in a "sport".
How is it not a sport?
.
Preplanning and design combined with real time action and on your feet dynamic thinking.
Sounds like a sport to me.
Assloads more entertaining then that garbage that is (american)football. Yueck. Rules rules rules more time-outs then you can shake a stick at, they spend more time waiting to play then actually playing, yeick. Not to mention all that woosy ass protective gear, WTF is up with that shit? Want to make football a worthwhile watch, get rid of all of that penalty shit and just give them some leather helmets and some basic elbow/shin/knee guards and a jockstrap and throw'em on the field. Tell them to get the ball to the opponents end of the field, and let them loose. No freakin penalties, no freakin fouls, and unless somebody goes unconscious NO FREAKING STOPPING THE GAME
Now that'd be a sport worth watching.
But until the, erhuhrm, humanitarian issues, are worked out, battle bots is the next best thing you are going to get to raw destruction in a sports arena. (well aside from Ultimate Fighting, but wasn't that canceled awhile back? Not to mention that it is pay per view any ways, bleh)
Not to be a troll, but the whole BattleBots concept has gone from new and fun to watch to rather dull within the span of a couple of years. That's why they had to throw Carmen Electra on, right? People weren't watching, and a little sex appeal was required?
I would put it more towards the stupid rules that they had imposed. Stuff like weapons limits and all that.
I stopped watching after last season because I knew that it would just be yet another batch of improvements upon the same old designs with maybe one or two new ideas thrown in there for the mix.
I want my large caliber projectiles and I want them now.