Even using the high estimate of 10, and assuming their all passengers (unlikely since the TSA agents are near the machines for 40 hours a week, not seconds, so their dose is going to be higher - that's why doctors leave the X-ray room when you get one), that means if it stops one 9/11 attack more often than every 300 years it is a net win for passengers and people on the ground.
You don't have a right to fly. If you get put on the No Fly list you will be banned from the air, period! Quoting a law preventing discrimination against handicapped people doesn't prove you have an unalienable right to fly!
Supply and demand, they'll lower prices until demand gets up to the supply (since they want planes to be as full as possible).
I'll take my chances, again, I'm not saying there is no risk, but you are so much more likely to die of a heart attack or a car accident or anything other than cancer until you are old, in which case you have enough mutations (which is what old age is about) so that cancer can develop easier.
If you have 10 extra cancers a year, it will take 300 years to kill as many as 9/11 did in one day!
Uh oh, that proves the machines could result in more cancer cases, if you get killed by terrorists, you'll never be able to get cancer later - if the terrorists are stopped - you can!
Any stories of radiation burns or sickness from these machines? As for cancer, so many things are said to cause cancer it is amazing we don't all get it by age 2!
Things like this are the ones that will eventually lead to the economic decline of America
Eventually???
We've been in economic decline for quite some years now already and this is NOT an economic cycle which will reverse itself, wealth is being destroyed and the economy is winding down and seizing up.
Look at the case that made software patents legal (Diamond vs Diehl) or the one that said a 3rd party unauthorized (i.e. not liked by the manufacturer) was infringing copyright because the computer made a copy of its software in RAM and the repair place didn't have a license (MAI vs Peak I think).
The legal system says merely running a program is copyright infringement, if you don't have a license, even if you are repairing a machine for someone who does!
In a nutshell, I know how many of you are Android fanboys and I understand that there will be some who whine about Oracle suing Google over their misuse of their technology, but basically anyone even slightly familiar with Android's Java implementation knows that it's not quite "real" Java.
Are you retarded?
Google didn't misuse anything.
You support copyrights on APIs?
I bet you also support CISPA, SOPA, the DMCA, ACTA, software patents, anti-circumvention laws, and the like.
It revictimizes that person having such a horrible perverted picture of them out there - they are hurt everytime it is reproduced..
Here is for a less emotionally charged example: If one's SSN got on the Internet, each time one more person got a hold of it it (potentally) would result in further harm.
Since the supply side involves horrendous abuse by perverted sickos who are undeterred by even life without parole (which is mandatory in many cases for these crimes), cutting off the demand and thus removing the incentive for the supply to exist could help reduce the horrible victimization that occurs.
They have a hilarious anti-Linux rant where they claim Linux is unsafe for critical applications (like airplanes), Windows is more secure and safer (despite the fact that Windows malware on a system for computing weight and balance was responsible for a plane crash), and that Linux makes it easier for foreign spies, saboteurs and terrorists to attack us.
"The 9/11 terrorist organizers had creativity, patience, and a desire to kill as many people as possible. The terroristsâ(TM) success and their continued ability to evade capture provides an example and encouragement to others. We must not turn our national defense over to Linux or any other operating system that is vulnerable to easy attack and subversion at all times. The 9/11 terrorist organizers, and all those whom they have inspired, are still out there, and they are still creative and patient. And if we make our national defense easy to attack, they will kill a lot more people. If Linux is deployed in critical defense systems, the result will be catastrophic."
WOW!
Sounds like a conspiracy rant, but it is a corporate website pushing their own OS!
And some foreign country uses a backdoor put in all of the countries software which the US buys and uses it to shutdown the power grid, other utilities, police, fire, public health and even the military.
They could just walk in and take over.
Terrorists can more easily get access to software in other countries and hit us with a cyber 9/11. Which could conceivable kill more people.
Anything which would destroy the US software industry could have very nasty national security implications.
Nokia dropped MeeGo since the CEO Elop is a Microsoft shill who is doing his master's bidding, not trying to make decent products (Nokia as really dropped in quality, btw).
Just like Steve Jobs tantrum caused Adobe to abandon Flash on mobile (even though it works fine on Android).
Intel could at least argue there was no support (even though Samsung was sure to support it and likely not to far down the road).
But if a Steve Jobs or Elop stops supporting a product, the vendor themselves abandons it.
People would've jumped off a bridge if Steve Jobs said Apple doesn't think they should live.
Keeping a child rapist from moving next to a school to victimize the children seems like both a noble goal and easy to implement and with only good consequences. (*)
Only now you've empowered government to decide where you can live. Where you live is a revokable privilege, not a right.
That will only be used against those monsters, right? right? Good people have NOTHING to worry about.
WRONG.
Las Vegas bans even misdemeanor drug offenders from even entering a major portion of the city.
Google "order out corridor". OOPS!
Precedents are a dangerous thing.
Creating infrastructure is a dangerous thing too.
Onstar can be used by the government to listen to your conversations and even to disable your car, by making it think it is stolen - it will refuse to start.
(*) Life without parole for the real monsters would eliminate the need for this stuff AND protect the children! Or a 38 cent bullet.
But they don't want to protect the children, they want to control society with an iron fist. Letting molestors out of prison makes people fearful and then they pass these laws, and get precedents, and eventually you have weed heads being banned from huge parts of the city (ironically the Las Vegas order out corridor is so big - drug offenders are more restricted than molestors! Then again, molestation makes the politicans stronger, and drugs reduce their power.)
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Even using the high estimate of 10, and assuming their all passengers (unlikely since the TSA agents are near the machines for 40 hours a week, not seconds, so their dose is going to be higher - that's why doctors leave the X-ray room when you get one), that means if it stops one 9/11 attack more often than every 300 years it is a net win for passengers and people on the ground.
You don't have a right to fly. If you get put on the No Fly list you will be banned from the air, period! Quoting a law preventing discrimination against handicapped people doesn't prove you have an unalienable right to fly!
Supply and demand, they'll lower prices until demand gets up to the supply (since they want planes to be as full as possible).
I'll take my chances, again, I'm not saying there is no risk, but you are so much more likely to die of a heart attack or a car accident or anything other than cancer until you are old, in which case you have enough mutations (which is what old age is about) so that cancer can develop easier.
If you have 10 extra cancers a year, it will take 300 years to kill as many as 9/11 did in one day!
You think it is bad if the machine malfunctions?
What about when the PLANE malfunctions?!
AA 587, AF 447, Alaska Airline 261, etc.
And if you don't scan and we have another 9/11?
Uh oh, that proves the machines could result in more cancer cases, if you get killed by terrorists, you'll never be able to get cancer later - if the terrorists are stopped - you can!
Any stories of radiation burns or sickness from these machines?
As for cancer, so many things are said to cause cancer it is amazing we don't all get it by age 2!
#1 cancer risk: OLD AGE!
Things like this are the ones that will eventually lead to the economic decline of America
Eventually???
We've been in economic decline for quite some years now already and this is NOT an economic cycle which will reverse itself, wealth is being destroyed and the economy is winding down and seizing up.
The legal system is not rational.
Look at the case that made software patents legal (Diamond vs Diehl) or the one that said a 3rd party unauthorized (i.e. not liked by the manufacturer) was infringing copyright because the computer made a copy of its software in RAM and the repair place didn't have a license (MAI vs Peak I think).
The legal system says merely running a program is copyright infringement, if you don't have a license, even if you are repairing a machine for someone who does!
In a nutshell, I know how many of you are Android fanboys and I understand that there will be some who whine about Oracle suing Google over their misuse of their technology, but basically anyone even slightly familiar with Android's Java implementation knows that it's not quite "real" Java.
Are you retarded?
Google didn't misuse anything.
You support copyrights on APIs?
I bet you also support CISPA, SOPA, the DMCA, ACTA, software patents, anti-circumvention laws, and the like.
You're on the wrong team.
What's the difference between God and Larry Ellison?
God doesn't think he's Larry Ellison.
Even one Amarok will bring most computers to their knees.
8 is crazy!
How many typical jurors have any idea what an API even IS?
It doesn't take thousands of years for the Java JVM virtual machine to start up, but it sure feels like it.
I am yet to find a language that really makes me happy, maybe I'm going about this all wrong...
You need to try Perl.
Don't give the terrorists ideas.
It revictimizes that person having such a horrible perverted picture of them out there - they are hurt everytime it is reproduced..
Here is for a less emotionally charged example: If one's SSN got on the Internet, each time one more person got a hold of it it (potentally) would result in further harm.
If you cut the demand, you cut the supply.
Since the supply side involves horrendous abuse by perverted sickos who are undeterred by even life without parole (which is mandatory in many cases for these crimes), cutting off the demand and thus removing the incentive for the supply to exist could help reduce the horrible victimization that occurs.
LOL, that's what you get for thinking "Windows 2009" was real.
Like Windows 97.
Well perhaps one could still make cars, if they didn't use round wheels. :)
They have a hilarious anti-Linux rant where they claim Linux is unsafe for critical applications (like airplanes), Windows is more secure and safer (despite the fact that Windows malware on a system for computing weight and balance was responsible for a plane crash), and that Linux makes it easier for foreign spies, saboteurs and terrorists to attack us.
They even work 9/11 into their argument! OMG!
http://www.ghs.com/linux/security.html
http://www.ghs.com/linux/threat.html
"The 9/11 terrorist organizers had creativity, patience, and a desire to kill as many people as possible. The terroristsâ(TM) success and their continued ability to evade capture provides an example and encouragement to others. We must not turn our national defense over to Linux or any other operating system that is vulnerable to easy attack and subversion at all times. The 9/11 terrorist organizers, and all those whom they have inspired, are still out there, and they are still creative and patient. And if we make our national defense easy to attack, they will kill a lot more people. If Linux is deployed in critical defense systems, the result will be catastrophic."
WOW!
Sounds like a conspiracy rant, but it is a corporate website pushing their own OS!
And when the rest of the world refuses to supply us replacement parts and even bullets for our military, we are going not to be able to do squat.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE ANYTHING ANYMORE.
A broken gun without bullets isn't going to stop anyone.
A missile without the Made in China guidance system chip isn't a threat either.
And some foreign country uses a backdoor put in all of the countries software which the US buys and uses it to shutdown the power grid, other utilities, police, fire, public health and even the military.
They could just walk in and take over.
Terrorists can more easily get access to software in other countries and hit us with a cyber 9/11. Which could conceivable kill more people.
Anything which would destroy the US software industry could have very nasty national security implications.
Honestly is OBSD relevant any more
No.
Nokia dropped MeeGo since the CEO Elop is a Microsoft shill who is doing his master's bidding, not trying to make decent products (Nokia as really dropped in quality, btw).
Just like Steve Jobs tantrum caused Adobe to abandon Flash on mobile (even though it works fine on Android).
Intel could at least argue there was no support (even though Samsung was sure to support it and likely not to far down the road).
But if a Steve Jobs or Elop stops supporting a product, the vendor themselves abandons it.
People would've jumped off a bridge if Steve Jobs said Apple doesn't think they should live.
I take it you like the Mac world where Steve Jobs (even though he is now dead) makes sure you have no choices.
One GUI, heck only one mouse button, One Way Of Doing Things and sue anyone that makes something better than dare run in Apple's walled garden!
How soon before the 9/11 conspiracy people comment on this?
(despite the fact that no 727s were used in those attacks).
The slippery slope is real.
Keeping a child rapist from moving next to a school to victimize the children seems like both a noble goal and easy to implement and with only good consequences. (*)
Only now you've empowered government to decide where you can live. Where you live is a revokable privilege, not a right.
That will only be used against those monsters, right? right? Good people have NOTHING to worry about.
WRONG.
Las Vegas bans even misdemeanor drug offenders from even entering a major portion of the city.
Google "order out corridor". OOPS!
Precedents are a dangerous thing.
Creating infrastructure is a dangerous thing too.
Onstar can be used by the government to listen to your conversations and even to disable your car, by making it think it is stolen - it will refuse to start.
(*) Life without parole for the real monsters would eliminate the need for this stuff AND protect the children!
Or a 38 cent bullet.
But they don't want to protect the children, they want to control society with an iron fist. Letting molestors out of prison makes people fearful and then they pass these laws, and get precedents, and eventually you have weed heads being banned from huge parts of the city (ironically the Las Vegas order out corridor is so big - drug offenders are more restricted than molestors! Then again, molestation makes the politicans stronger, and drugs reduce their power.)
Which would've been bad for him, since he is now rich from Linux.