what big iron ?
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IBM Wants Linux
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SGI + seimens did the over 4GB memory patch
IBM did umm the patch to run on S390
(evil clock ticks evil interupts muhhaha)
so what do you mean ?
regards
john jones
p.s. list of kernel work from SGI looks like big iron in many ways I cant find a IBM page anywhere or heard of any of their work beyond the NGPthreads and s390 patchs
(oh yeah and the PowerPC port which IBM does a good job of helping out)
AIX != linux therefore diversity is good
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IBM Wants Linux
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its a nice thing to say shows IBM is serious and means that they can claim to M$ that they are not trying to market Linux to anyone except people who used unix
(which is a good thing the less the big ape hears about linux the better)
BUT in reality as a solution it wont fit everyone AIX gets most of its power through its custom hardware
and template binarys are something real cool that linux wont get anytime soon the thing that IBM love about linux is that the researchers in the LABs love it and since alot of IBM blue sky stuff turns over their proffits then its a good bet considering hardware is where IBM really shine (buy a harddrive today and you pay IBM one way or another)
the point is horses for courses
the nice thing is that their is a winer overall in a multi disapline event and its nice to that IBM thinks the winner will be linux
regards
joh jones
no text only browsers (and why?)
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Linux: Browser Wars
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why oh why where text only browsers not included ?
is this because their user base is small ?
I personally use it but I find that alot of people dont
because I find lynx the fall back GOD the page doent render in netscape or some fool has FSCK the HTML I just use lynx and away I go
really how much information (I am intrested in )is presented in pictures on the web
not much I am sure
lynx is my fallback king (-;
I use it when I telnet into places to check they can see stuff plus all I need is a telnet app which I can obtain for most OS's
what do you relie on to ALWAYS give you the web ?
(me its a telnet client and lynx)
so its much like AIX5L wich caldera(SCO) helped them create as far as I can work out
(any info ?)
this might be a nice product but it runs on x86 hardware and the clustering is not something that is revelutionary you can get heartbeat for linux and D.Becker seems to have MPI + rest going nicely
But its a nice way of going about things as proved by the AIX impl
But IBM sells the hardware thats where they get the suppport contracts from where is Caldera going to get them from ?
How about geting the UDI project running nicely and chargeing vendors for drivers on unix or about the nice update stuff the caldera has?
this as far as I'm concerned is the SCO staff trying to accert their will over the company
they have had some really good engineers and they seem to have got the update thing much better worked out than redhat
they produced this nice app that I could install that updated things without haveing access to the web right then and there as was directory based and had a nice frount end god I am going to PAY for that ! (as in $$$ rather than pain in redhats solution)
that and the potental to really make things work with the UDI project (hosted on sourceforge)
UDI allows drivers for Solaris SCO and linux to work from one base
oh for that to work !
imagine to support unix and likes all you have to code is one driver how many vendors would do that ?
LOTS I can tell you
the project fails in that it should go after USB and IEEE1394 and not network devices and such imagine just one driver for Apple, Solaris, SCO and linux THAT would be cool just get more than my keyboard to work in USB in SOLARIS would be nice
a world where USB floppy zip Rio camras video HD webcams +the rest JUST WORK with one driver
dreams
john jones
why hasn't anyone mentioned be's hardware ?
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Palm To Purchase Be's IP
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what is intresting is the differant hardware that Be has had to run on
AT&T hobbit processor - starting blocks
Power -- IBM 32 bit chip
PowerPC -- IBM 32/64 bit chip
dragonball -- MOT trying to beat ARM
intel 586 -- plain intel arch when it all seemed to be going fast
Geode -- NatSemi trying to get MOT market
and now
ARM 5TE -- the guys from cambridge who didnt have any money (they do now)
what is intresting about this is what would you compile with,
for the hobbit it would be their own compiler
then power again a custom or gcc
then PowerPC either relie on Power stuff or use IBM compiler
IA use GCC
Geode as well dragonball use GCC or custom
ARM will Proberly use GCC or custom proberly greenhills Multi2000
the point is to go through all this would mean alot of it will be standards with little or no complex features used
makes porting to ARM a breaze
PalmOS compatability going to ARM is going to be an emulation job anyway
why not emulate all of existing API + processor and start with something new ?
they seem to be trying to figure out placment of logic
remeber this is VERY important in chip 80% of wires and therefore heat comes from the clock sync inside of the chip (acording to IBM powerPC paper in the ACM microproccesor journel)
placment is very lucritive Cadence and such make millions from it but this seems to be FUD because you can run process at 0.10 micro @ TSMC now and they are standardiseing on it should be done
it does not seem to be anything but hoax e.g the clock rates mean nothing unless the whole chip runs at that frequancy and is RISC whith no caches no pipelines of which I assure you there are few
what counts is memory bandwidth and how often you use memory
here is some of my advice(do a google search;-)(bellow are sane answers)
please try and use the gcc that fits you I recomend a dual gcc2.95 and a dev 3.1.xx or CVS version for intresting results (you will have to use redhats 2.96 if you plan to release to the 7.x as the ABI is differant but they plan 3.x for their 8.x release so it pays to be ahead of the game)
this is because it is one of the more comman text editor and WHY because it is VERY good for seraching and writeing documents in plaintext (which I assume is what your C/C++/^*somethinglang%&^ is in)
I have to say writeing to standards helps so try it on solaris and BSD when codeing (three boxs as build machines is not a drain plus people can use these at the same time) all of these are free and run on x86 hardware http://www.sun.com http://www.netbsd.org
Am I the only one who is ammused by the fact that people think that M$ wont go to linux ?
at the moment this is true but hey server side they have chillisoft doing ASP and the rest is comeing
why serpant ? because it stands up nicer to hardware implementation (-;
hardware implementations of RSA are common but remember that you are safe
until someone finds a crack
nothing is given so use an obscure one that seems to be secure is often better
than one that say the NSA have had a long hard look at (millions of man hours
rather than thousands)
what they do not publish is whether they have found ways to attack it after
all this is between them and their US lawyers not even the senate has access
to this (-;
ok some of what I say is wrong i.e. they are not compatable there switching is done differantly but the ideas and the way they are implemented are the same
so I am not totaly wrong but then I am nit completely right if you want to be pedantic
one question how many pages is the EV67 reqspec ?
or the tech manual for hypertransport ?
dont know
thats because you dont have them !
they are subject to NDA so dont tell me to read the spec ! (I have them)
what I am annopyed at is the fact that so many people seem to have jumped on the mrketing DROIDS words
god damn it I tell people the ABI has changed and then the next person thinks it has and gets moded up
uuugh
jez this system is stupid if no one mods and just relies on the +2 to get them above the crowd it end up like the jounels with IMPACT factor rateings stupid
Slashdot Mirror
the die size of an X86 processor from either AMD or intel are Huge
AMD = 106mm^2
while a 32bit system should only take up about 2.93 mm^2 to ~10 mm^2
(this is on a 0.18 process)
no wonder transmeta reckoned that they could pull off low power
honestly where does it all go because dont tell me its logic ?
regards
john jones
Linux Scalability
Kernprof (Kernel Profiling)
SGI kGDB (Remote host Linux kernel debugger via GDB)
NUMA (NUMA support in Linux)
Bigmem (Big Memory support for Linux)
Lockmeter (Linux kernel lock-metering)
Post/Wait (Post/Wait Synchronization)
SGI kdb (Linux kernel debugger)
Raw I/O (Enhancements to Linux raw I/O capabilities)
POSIX Asynchronous I/O (KAIO)
LKCD (Linux Kernel Crash Dumps)
STP (Scheduled Transfer Protocol)
IBM did umm the patch to run on S390
(evil clock ticks evil interupts muhhaha)
so what do you mean ?
regards
john jones
p.s. list of kernel work from SGI looks like big iron in many ways I cant find a IBM page anywhere or heard of any of their work beyond the NGPthreads and s390 patchs
(oh yeah and the PowerPC port which IBM does a good job of helping out)
Linux Scalability
Kernprof (Kernel Profiling)
SGI kGDB (Remote host Linux kernel debugger via GDB)
NUMA (NUMA support in Linux)
Bigmem (Big Memory support for Linux)
Lockmeter (Linux kernel lock-metering)
Post/Wait (Post/Wait Synchronization)
SGI kdb (Linux kernel debugger)
Raw I/O (Enhancements to Linux raw I/O capabilities)
POSIX Asynchronous I/O (KAIO)
LKCD (Linux Kernel Crash Dumps)
STP (Scheduled Transfer Protocol)
its a nice thing to say shows IBM is serious and means that they can claim to M$ that they are not trying to market Linux to anyone except people who used unix
(which is a good thing the less the big ape hears about linux the better)
BUT in reality as a solution it wont fit everyone AIX gets most of its power through its custom hardware
and template binarys are something real cool that linux wont get anytime soon the thing that IBM love about linux is that the researchers in the LABs love it and since alot of IBM blue sky stuff turns over their proffits then its a good bet considering hardware is where IBM really shine (buy a harddrive today and you pay IBM one way or another)
the point is horses for courses
the nice thing is that their is a winer overall in a multi disapline event and its nice to that IBM thinks the winner will be linux
regards
joh jones
why oh why where text only browsers not included ?
is this because their user base is small ?
I personally use it but I find that alot of people dont
because I find lynx the fall back GOD the page doent render in netscape or some fool has FSCK the HTML I just use lynx and away I go
really how much information (I am intrested in )is presented in pictures on the web
not much I am sure
lynx is my fallback king (-;
I use it when I telnet into places to check they can see stuff plus all I need is a telnet app which I can obtain for most OS's
what do you relie on to ALWAYS give you the web ?
(me its a telnet client and lynx)
regards
john jones
so its much like AIX5L wich caldera(SCO) helped them create as far as I can work out
(any info ?)
this might be a nice product but it runs on x86 hardware and the clustering is not something that is revelutionary you can get heartbeat for linux and D.Becker seems to have MPI + rest going nicely
But its a nice way of going about things as proved by the AIX impl
But IBM sells the hardware thats where they get the suppport contracts from where is Caldera going to get them from ?
How about geting the UDI project running nicely and chargeing vendors for drivers on unix or about the nice update stuff the caldera has?
this as far as I'm concerned is the SCO staff trying to accert their will over the company
regards
john jones
Caldera was my first distro (-;
then I moved to the then spanking redhat 4.2
then back again to caldera
they have had some really good engineers and they seem to have got the update thing much better worked out than redhat
they produced this nice app that I could install that updated things without haveing access to the web right then and there as was directory based and had a nice frount end god I am going to PAY for that ! (as in $$$ rather than pain in redhats solution)
that and the potental to really make things work with the UDI project (hosted on sourceforge)
UDI allows drivers for Solaris SCO and linux to work from one base
oh for that to work !
imagine to support unix and likes all you have to code is one driver how many vendors would do that ?
LOTS I can tell you
the project fails in that it should go after USB and IEEE1394 and not network devices and such imagine just one driver for Apple, Solaris, SCO and linux THAT would be cool just get more than my keyboard to work in USB in SOLARIS would be nice
a world where USB floppy zip Rio camras video HD webcams +the rest JUST WORK with one driver
dreams
john jones
what is intresting is the differant hardware that Be has had to run on
AT&T hobbit processor - starting blocks
Power -- IBM 32 bit chip
PowerPC -- IBM 32/64 bit chip
dragonball -- MOT trying to beat ARM
intel 586 -- plain intel arch when it all seemed to be going fast
Geode -- NatSemi trying to get MOT market
and now
ARM 5TE -- the guys from cambridge who didnt have any money (they do now)
what is intresting about this is what would you compile with,
for the hobbit it would be their own compiler
then power again a custom or gcc
then PowerPC either relie on Power stuff or use IBM compiler
IA use GCC
Geode as well dragonball use GCC or custom
ARM will Proberly use GCC or custom proberly greenhills Multi2000
the point is to go through all this would mean alot of it will be standards with little or no complex features used
makes porting to ARM a breaze
PalmOS compatability going to ARM is going to be an emulation job anyway
why not emulate all of existing API + processor and start with something new ?
what do you think ?
regards
john jones
it looks like it is not actually a processor
they seem to be trying to figure out placment of logic
remeber this is VERY important in chip 80% of wires and therefore heat comes from the clock sync inside of the chip (acording to IBM powerPC paper in the ACM microproccesor journel)
placment is very lucritive Cadence and such make millions from it but this seems to be FUD because you can run process at 0.10 micro @ TSMC now and they are standardiseing on it should be done
it does not seem to be anything but hoax e.g the clock rates mean nothing unless the whole chip runs at that frequancy and is RISC whith no caches no pipelines of which I assure you there are few
what counts is memory bandwidth and how often you use memory
regards
john jones
it sucks as a linux dev because the visual translation layer for X (so it looks the same on all platforms) is horribly broken for linux
very bad hope it improves but I dont hold my breath
regards
john jones
the people responsible for the IDE on windows (Microsoft v..no realy its a text editor..isual is a responce to them)
have released Borland's Kylix which happens to be very nice if your a pascal/delphi man and want cross dev
regards
john jones
p.s. I put in a few to many BR in the last tinking plain text did not do tags (-;
here is some of my advice(do a google search
please try and use the gcc that fits you I recomend a dual gcc2.95 and a dev 3.1.xx or CVS version for intresting results (you will have to use redhats 2.96 if you plan to release to the 7.x as the ABI is differant but they plan 3.x for their 8.x release so it pays to be ahead of the game)
http://anjuta.sourceforge.net is a nice IDE that will help out visual studio freaks it has a GTK interface
http://www.kdevelop.org" is a KDE front end and is more mature and has a QT front end
but seriosly learn vi
this is because it is one of the more comman text editor and WHY because it is VERY good for seraching and writeing documents in plaintext (which I assume is what your C/C++/^*somethinglang%&^ is in)
I have to say writeing to standards helps so try it on solaris and BSD when codeing (three boxs as build machines is not a drain plus people can use these at the same time) all of these are free and run on x86 hardware http://www.sun.com
http://www.netbsd.org
Am I the only one who is ammused by the fact that people think that M$ wont go to linux ?
at the moment this is true but hey server side they have chillisoft doing ASP and the rest is comeing
oh and try out GDB (-;
regards
john jones
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always wanted one of these
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the RFC
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I wonder if there is a implemetation that is open ?
can anyone point the way ?
regards
john jones
p.s. so sad and they will be moveing in with Microsoft so expect an IIS add on I surpose )-:
why serpant ? because it stands up nicer to hardware implementation (-;
hardware implementations of RSA are common but remember that you are safe until someone finds a crack
nothing is given so use an obscure one that seems to be secure is often better than one that say the NSA have had a long hard look at (millions of man hours rather than thousands)
what they do not publish is whether they have found ways to attack it after all this is between them and their US lawyers not even the senate has access to this (-;
remember security is an illusion
regards john jones
right
wrong
ok some of what I say is wrong i.e. they are not compatable there switching is done differantly but the ideas and the way they are implemented are the same
so I am not totaly wrong but then I am nit completely right if you want to be pedantic
one question how many pages is the EV67 reqspec ?
or the tech manual for hypertransport ?
dont know
thats because you dont have them !
they are subject to NDA so dont tell me to read the spec ! (I have them)
what I am annopyed at is the fact that so many people seem to have jumped on the mrketing DROIDS words
I admit I am wrong but hey !
your so far off base its incredable
regards
john jones
EV67 is varible width point to point bus
EV67 is packeted in effect
how do you want to spin it EV67 and hypertransport are the same thing AMD research got the guys from DEC OK
please dont delude yourself its like saying electrons are nice little things that fly around atoms
or electons flow from positive to negitive
its just nice lies that work
regards
john jones
ironic dont you think that it was posted by tim
wasnt he the man who bought slashdot and took it public
hmm investors
dont like them but their money buys lots of sweet toys like cowboyneals chair (-;
regards
john jones
ok
I am preaching to people who should understand this
hypertransport is the same thing bought ready to go for AMD
arrrch read the spec if they tell me its differant why does the same patent end up in both ?
regards
john jones
erm I think you will find hypertransprt IS the bus that durons and athlons use
regards
john jones
this is just getting the spec out the door
no silicon yet so many companies do not even have access to what it is
their are no third partys supplieing interfaces or anything BUT lots of archs with bus problems i.e. Bandwidth problems
EV^ aka hypertransport is here right now and their is third part silicon SUN and apple will use it to link AGP Memory CPU because it is just faster !
nice but intel still have bandwidth problems now and look to drop their prices by up to 50 % today on the P4
the BUS is the problem for them and thats where AMD rules
SUN has also had faster machines simply because the BUS was faster
oh well
regards
john jones
why oh why do people host their projects in the US ?
why not put it in international waters and work on it from wherever you want ?
this goes back to cryptonomicon CAVE idea
more and more things like this are going to happen we should simply wake up and put them out of reach of poloitical ideas and companys
what are the problems with this approach ?
reagrds
john jones
god damn it I tell people the ABI has changed and then the next person thinks it has and gets moded up
uuugh
jez this system is stupid if no one mods and just relies on the +2 to get them above the crowd it end up like the jounels with IMPACT factor rateings stupid
regards
john jones
please the real reason is that the ABI has changed in 3x
simple
redhat 7.x all have the same ABI nice for vendors
oh and ext3 does suck has sucked for a while but servers to clean up the rest of the kernel !
so important work
I have yet to see a 3TB ext3 see an XFS one every day so which would I rather have
plus my jaz disks are XFS so yahno
regards
john jones
oh dont worry to much
but tell me are you useing gcc3.x because the ABI changed are you sticking with gcc2.96 to preserve compatability ?
cheers
john