This has never made sense to me - that ANY dynamic link library makes ALL linking programs derivative works. It seems to me that the entire purpose of creating a dynamic link library is exporting a PUBLIC API and header file that allows someone to create reasonably separate programs that can access a function.
It was SloMedia, not the virtualDub guy who created the DLL. VirtualDub is just a regular program.
The GPL is not a contract. It's a license granting rights that people would not normaly have. Without folowing the GPLs rules, SloMedia is nothing more then a common pirate.
Taking this argument to it's logical extreme, any program that can create a pipe to another process could be in violation of GPL.
Or network sockets, even. But would it be a bad thing? Remember, it wouldn't have any effect on you, since you can do whatever you want to a GPL'd program in private, as long as you don't distribute it.
Suppose someone wrote a proprietary program that required the distribution of PostgreSQL (or something). The program communicates over Unix Domain Sockets. Now, would that be a GPL violation? Maybe it should be. Really it should be up to the author of the original program how much they want closed source people to be able to profit of their hard work without compensation.
Technically, there isn't much difference between someone connecting to a companies server on port 80 and downloading something, and connecting on a port used by MSSQL and grabbing lists of credit cards that are 'publicly available'. But the law really doesn't care.
What makes things crimes are not their technicality, but rather their intent. I would get into far less trouble for running you over accidentally then if I had done it with the pre-meditated intent to kill you. The effect is the same, but the punishment isn't.
It's about linking. The GPL prohibits linking of code with non-GPL'd code. In that respect the product is in clear violation. There is the LGPL for people who want to allow other people to access their binary code from other products.
Since these dlls aren't part of the OS, and aren't even designed to work with any other programs, it's pretty obvious that they are a 'part' of the program. With out them, the program is nothing. Because of that, the GPL'd software authors have every right to legally require this company to stop distributing the dlls. And sue them for damages (if They filed their copy right with the Library of congress).
They can't force them to open their code, but that might be a reasonable alternative for this company then to simply stop selling it.
According to the second law of thermodynamics the amount of energy needed to cool all that wire cannot, according to the law, be less than the energy saved by the reduction in resistance, because that would decrease entropy, which is impossible.
That isn't even remotely True. It wouldn't decrease entropy; it would just bring the rate of entropy creation down to zero (or near zero). Or are you saying everything has an equal amount of efficiency?
The magnetic fields around an electrical conductor actually rotate around the core, rather then attract it; counterclockwise, if you were facing the current flow. A coil will produce a nice directed magnetic flow, though.
Also, coins do not contain ferromagnetic elements.
Where are you from anyway? I'm assuming it's the US based on the sorry state of education there.
Yes, I'm sure the city of Detroit hasn't done any estimation or analysis, and has no idea how much this will actually cost, unlike some random slashdot poster who must clearly be some kind of electrical infrastructure idiot savant.
Of course you must be right, what was I thinking. I mean, you have so much support to go a long with your opinion. Christ, how the hell did a fucking idiot like you get +2?
You mean the "It's PotQuake" refrence? First of all, I didn't even see it untill just now. I don't normaly deal with the sub 2 rabble here unless it's a reply to one of my comments
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Actually, I think playing in a Cave environment would actually cause less problems the playing it on a flat big screen monitor. Since a cave is a true stereoscopic environment, the signals from the game wouldn't require any more processing then something like playing a game of football.
Of course, in real life you have *a lot* more sensorial ques as to what's going on. Whereas in these VR systems you're eyes are disagreeing with the rest of your body.
I played through the original shareware game with this, and I do feel a little nauseous:P. I think part of the problem was that I turned down the 'slices' the game uses, so that when I panned left or right I would get these 'wavy' effects. It was either that or low frame rates, which are also bothersome. And I wouldn't rule out interacting with a seriously weird visual environment as a cause either ^__^
But anyway, just about everything can have a deleterious effect on your health. If quake gives you painful headaches then don't play it. If it only causes a little irritation, then who cares? It's not like it's slowly killing you.
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Yeh, yeh, I'm a looser, but I did feel a *wee* bit nauseous playing this at 360 (btw, don't forget to set the console variable pfov to 360, otherwise you only get a half-way panoramic view). But it was well worth it. What sucked was how slow it ran though, quite a bit slower then q3 on my system (a AMD duron 600)
By the way, has anyone else noticed after playing games like q3 the original quake just doesn't seem like much of a challenge at all! I mean the bad guys don't move around much at all, you've just got to circle strafe around them and leisurely blow them to bits:P
Some open-source advocates considered Microsoft Corp.'s recent public flaming of the GNU General Public License equivalent to criticizing motherhood and apple pie. But not Ransome Love, CEO of Caldera Systems
Wow. Now, I've heard of some people with cool names before. But Ransome Love, damn. That's a just a cool name.
I wouldn't have a problem with, and I doubt RMS
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And I doubt RMS would either, if we didn't have opressive copyright laws on the book. the GPL, or copyleft is an attempt to twist the law into something good. If the bad laws were not there to begin with, there wouldn't even be a need.
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This has never made sense to me - that ANY dynamic link library makes ALL linking programs derivative works. It seems to me that the entire purpose of creating a dynamic link library is exporting a PUBLIC API and header file that allows someone to create reasonably separate programs that can access a function.
It was SloMedia, not the virtualDub guy who created the DLL. VirtualDub is just a regular program.
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The GPL is not a contract. It's a license granting rights that people would not normaly have. Without folowing the GPLs rules, SloMedia is nothing more then a common pirate.
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I think they took the VirtualDub code and wrapped it up in a DLL, then gave away the DLL (but not the main program)
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Hinduism is a very pure and honest religion at heart too, but most people only see the terrorist fundamentalists.
Don't you mean islam?
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Taking this argument to it's logical extreme, any program that can create a pipe to another process could be in violation of GPL.
Or network sockets, even. But would it be a bad thing? Remember, it wouldn't have any effect on you, since you can do whatever you want to a GPL'd program in private, as long as you don't distribute it.
Suppose someone wrote a proprietary program that required the distribution of PostgreSQL (or something). The program communicates over Unix Domain Sockets. Now, would that be a GPL violation? Maybe it should be. Really it should be up to the author of the original program how much they want closed source people to be able to profit of their hard work without compensation.
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Technically, there isn't much difference between someone connecting to a companies server on port 80 and downloading something, and connecting on a port used by MSSQL and grabbing lists of credit cards that are 'publicly available'. But the law really doesn't care.
What makes things crimes are not their technicality, but rather their intent. I would get into far less trouble for running you over accidentally then if I had done it with the pre-meditated intent to kill you. The effect is the same, but the punishment isn't.
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It's about linking. The GPL prohibits linking of code with non-GPL'd code. In that respect the product is in clear violation. There is the LGPL for people who want to allow other people to access their binary code from other products.
Since these dlls aren't part of the OS, and aren't even designed to work with any other programs, it's pretty obvious that they are a 'part' of the program. With out them, the program is nothing. Because of that, the GPL'd software authors have every right to legally require this company to stop distributing the dlls. And sue them for damages (if They filed their copy right with the Library of congress).
They can't force them to open their code, but that might be a reasonable alternative for this company then to simply stop selling it.
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how so?
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According to the second law of thermodynamics the amount of energy needed to cool all that wire cannot, according to the law, be less than the energy saved by the reduction in resistance, because that would decrease entropy, which is impossible.
That isn't even remotely True. It wouldn't decrease entropy; it would just bring the rate of entropy creation down to zero (or near zero). Or are you saying everything has an equal amount of efficiency?
God, why are so many people so stupid!
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The magnetic fields around an electrical conductor actually rotate around the core, rather then attract it; counterclockwise, if you were facing the current flow. A coil will produce a nice directed magnetic flow, though.
Also, coins do not contain ferromagnetic elements.
Where are you from anyway? I'm assuming it's the US based on the sorry state of education there.
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Yes, I'm sure the city of Detroit hasn't done any estimation or analysis, and has no idea how much this will actually cost, unlike some random slashdot poster who must clearly be some kind of electrical infrastructure idiot savant.
Of course you must be right, what was I thinking. I mean, you have so much support to go a long with your opinion. Christ, how the hell did a fucking idiot like you get +2?
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Nitrogen gas is not a hazard unless it can displace all of the oxygen in the aria.
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In my opinion, any one worrying about the environmental impact of releasing nitrogen gas should be shot in the head immediately.
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what? what does 'pre-op TS' mean? I get the feeling you're insulting me. But if you are, I'm sure you'd want me to actualy understand what you said.
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Well, the cost of the watch was listed as $1200. So I wouldn't place it out of reach...
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http://wouter.fov120.com/gfxengine/fisheyequake/
It's done by the same guy, but on a spherical geometry rather then a cylindrical one like Pan Quake.
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Is it the normal modus opperandi of a karma whore to loose karma? but I digress. What does my user info have to do with anything?
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You mean the "It's PotQuake" refrence? First of all, I didn't even see it untill just now. I don't normaly deal with the sub 2 rabble here unless it's a reply to one of my comments
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Actually, I think playing in a Cave environment would actually cause less problems the playing it on a flat big screen monitor. Since a cave is a true stereoscopic environment, the signals from the game wouldn't require any more processing then something like playing a game of football.
:P. I think part of the problem was that I turned down the 'slices' the game uses, so that when I panned left or right I would get these 'wavy' effects. It was either that or low frame rates, which are also bothersome. And I wouldn't rule out interacting with a seriously weird visual environment as a cause either ^__^
Of course, in real life you have *a lot* more sensorial ques as to what's going on. Whereas in these VR systems you're eyes are disagreeing with the rest of your body.
I played through the original shareware game with this, and I do feel a little nauseous
But anyway, just about everything can have a deleterious effect on your health. If quake gives you painful headaches then don't play it. If it only causes a little irritation, then who cares? It's not like it's slowly killing you.
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Yeh, yeh, I'm a looser, but I did feel a *wee* bit nauseous playing this at 360 (btw, don't forget to set the console variable pfov to 360, otherwise you only get a half-way panoramic view). But it was well worth it. What sucked was how slow it ran though, quite a bit slower then q3 on my system (a AMD duron 600)
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By the way, has anyone else noticed after playing games like q3 the original quake just doesn't seem like much of a challenge at all! I mean the bad guys don't move around much at all, you've just got to circle strafe around them and leisurely blow them to bits
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PanQuake: Best when played on acid.
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Some open-source advocates considered Microsoft Corp.'s recent public flaming of the GNU General Public License equivalent to criticizing motherhood and apple pie. But not Ransome Love, CEO of Caldera Systems
Wow. Now, I've heard of some people with cool names before. But Ransome Love, damn. That's a just a cool name.
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but who decides what is just and what is unjust
I do.
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And I doubt RMS would either, if we didn't have opressive copyright laws on the book. the GPL, or copyleft is an attempt to twist the law into something good. If the bad laws were not there to begin with, there wouldn't even be a need.
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