Some companies made the mistake of sending market droid to the Boston Computer Society PC Technical Group meetings to present. These market droids were eaten alive.
In 1995 A Microsoft Evengelist said that the Microsoft vision is one PC per person. Of course, when asked how many people had more than one PC, about 90% raised their hands.When asked how many had more than than one PC with them, only a few raised their hands.
The big boys will buy laws to prevent it. They will claim, if unregulated mediums are allowed to exist [child molesters | pirates | hackers | terorists] will use it to [destroy | bankrupt | harm ] [society | people | children | industries].
Don't forget, it is to protect [children | innovation | freedom | life].
I would love to see the face of the lawyer the newpaper that takes action, when they see Sorkin, Lessig, Tyre at the defendants table, then 50 or so students of Sorkin taken notes for class, as this is their new class project.
Price of Link - $5.00
Price of laywers - $10,000
Look on plaintiff's lawyers face when they see they really stepped in it - Priceless.
"He said a ruling against his company would create a world of hurt," opening the floodgates for all types of suits, including contract and property claims from people whose domains are down for just a short while."
Or perhaps a floodgate of lawsuits where Verisign royally screwed up and did nothing to try to rectify the situation.
There is a difference from being down for a little while, and giving someone a domain that you paid for and registered. Then saying, "ooopps...well here is your registration fee back."
It would be more beautiful if they threaten legal action. Saying to Sorkin that the if he "wants to avoid the expense of having to hire a lawyer.....that he must take down those links.
This is almost as good as going against someone who buys their ink by the barrel.
Lets see, 1 law professor, 20 students needed project for class. Hmmmm.....
phone: 10.69 (says its the "flat rate service" - its actually 19.10 for me after adding caller id and anon call reject)
Can you change to a measured service?
DSL: 64.95 - I have statics - it seems you cant have static ips for vonage?
You need to have DHCP service that provides a IP to the ATA-186 adapter. You can something like a Netgear RP114 Cable/DSL Web Safe Router or add a DHCP service to your linux box. But, how many people only use 1 computer on a DSL line anyways?
I have been using Vonage for a few weeks and it has been great.
They provide a Cisco ATA186. The only downsides are:
You need a home network, but I had one and a DSL router works.
You need a DHCP server, not a static IP network. It was easy to set it up, but they don't say so in the documentation.
The advantage over cell phone is that there are no minutes! It is $39.95 a month and you can choose which area code you want a phone number in. You can forward it to a cell phone when out, or any other phone that you may be at.
SPAMMER X copies Haiku. SPAMMER X sends out 1 million copies of Haiku. Spammer has not violated copyright law 1 million times for a commercial purpose. It not only opens spammer up to attorney statutory damages and attorney fees on the copyright violations. This also becomes a way to "access" your in-box, so now the spammer is committing a computer crime to send you spam.
If you're an Amazon referrer link, aren't you getting paid for that?
Potentially getting paid.
That is my point, that at what point does any potential receipt of money change the nature from non-profit to profit? If you have a house in a residential zone, are you violating the law by having a yard sale in a residential area? What if your child has a lemonade stand?
The companies have been using DMCA threats to silence people for a while. For each threat we hear about, there are many we don't.
I grant you that the EFF may be doing some exagerating, but not much.
Look at Felton's case. He was sent a threat, but when an opposition was made, the RIAA essentially said, "we didn't mean it" and "you misunderstood us."
Now what is commercial distribution and profit? You have link to a site that has an advertisement, is it commercial? I have seen a case that ruled linking to a site that has advertising makes a site commercial. What about a Amazon referrer link? or a Vonage affiliate link? does that you commercial?
It is not the actually application of the DMCA being the problem, but the threats that spring from the vagueness of the law.
No, it's like saying that if you not only don't have a car alarm, but leave it unlocked and the keys inside and put a sign on it that says, "Drive me to your heart's content", you don't get to complain when people do so.
No, it is if you say, move the car, if you are blocked. Then you decide to take the car for a long drive.
"most people will happily let anyone mail something to them."
Actually, an advertiser pays money for the privelege to put something into my a mailbox. A advertiser cannot legally walk up to a mailbox and put advertising into it without paying postage.
"Similarly, unless you have barbed wire running around your property, you are pretty much giving permission to anyone to walk on"
If you put your car onto my property, it may be towed or seized.
On my site, it says,
"You agree that any email you send which advertises or promotes any product, service or Internet destination, shall be subject to a $1,500.00 fee for reading and responding appropriately. THIS MEANS SPAM COSTS! Concealing, misrepresenting, or not fully disclosing, the sender's identity increases the fee by $3,000.00 to compensate for the effort to track down the sender.
Which means that you have been told not to send spam, unless you want to pay for it.
If you have a driveway that connects to a public road, then people can park there. Your house is connected to a public road, I can walk in and watch TV. Your car is on a public road, I can use it without your permission.
A spammer that I tracked down was very unhappy that I knocked on his door. He claimed I was tresspassing. How could I, he opted in by having his house accessible by a public road.
If spamming is legal and honorable, why don't you post your real name, address, and phone number with each spam and on each website that you spam about?
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The site was brought down by the C [carrier lost]
[ok]
Next step web shooters and strength enhancement.
In 1995 A Microsoft Evengelist said that the Microsoft vision is one PC per person. Of course, when asked how many people had more than one PC, about 90% raised their hands.When asked how many had more than than one PC with them, only a few raised their hands.
Don't forget, it is to protect [children | innovation | freedom | life].
Actually, they could have anyways.
If they do, make sure it is open source, their own project, or have authorization to do so.
Then you have to question them on it to make sure it is really their code, not something they ripped from someone else.
I would love to see the face of the lawyer the newpaper that takes action, when they see Sorkin, Lessig, Tyre at the defendants table, then 50 or so students of Sorkin taken notes for class, as this is their new class project.
Or perhaps a floodgate of lawsuits where Verisign royally screwed up and did nothing to try to rectify the situation.
There is a difference from being down for a little while, and giving someone a domain that you paid for and registered. Then saying, "ooopps...well here is your registration fee back."
This is almost as good as going against someone who buys their ink by the barrel.
Lets see, 1 law professor, 20 students needed project for class. Hmmmm.....
If you want $40.00 off, just send me a note with your email via my form and I will have them send you an email getting you $40 off of your service.
You need to have DHCP service that provides a IP to the ATA-186 adapter. You can something like a Netgear RP114 Cable/DSL Web Safe Router or add a DHCP service to your linux box. But, how many people only use 1 computer on a DSL line anyways?
I found that Vonage is more reliable and sounds better than than SprintPCS.
Your $80 figure is only correct, if you are getting DSL/Cable internet only for VoIP. Then you are correct.
They provide a Cisco ATA186. The only downsides are:
The advantage over cell phone is that there are no minutes! It is $39.95 a month and you can choose which area code you want a phone number in. You can forward it to a cell phone when out, or any other phone that you may be at.
But, if this is advertised as a way to block spam, they are opening themselfs up for a breach of contract claim.
Grasshopper, no spammer can completely hide their tracks. You go after the customer of the spammer -- follow the money.
It is a bankrupt spammer technique.
SPAMMER X copies Haiku. SPAMMER X sends out 1 million copies of Haiku. Spammer has not violated copyright law 1 million times for a commercial purpose. It not only opens spammer up to attorney statutory damages and attorney fees on the copyright violations. This also becomes a way to "access" your in-box, so now the spammer is committing a computer crime to send you spam.
Potentially getting paid.
That is my point, that at what point does any potential receipt of money change the nature from non-profit to profit? If you have a house in a residential zone, are you violating the law by having a yard sale in a residential area? What if your child has a lemonade stand?
I grant you that the EFF may be doing some exagerating, but not much.
Look at Felton's case. He was sent a threat, but when an opposition was made, the RIAA essentially said, "we didn't mean it" and "you misunderstood us."
Now what is commercial distribution and profit? You have link to a site that has an advertisement, is it commercial? I have seen a case that ruled linking to a site that has advertising makes a site commercial. What about a Amazon referrer link? or a Vonage affiliate link? does that
you commercial?
It is not the actually application of the DMCA being the problem, but the threats that spring from the vagueness of the law.
HP scoffed at the idea of a personal computer. Steve Wozniak got them to sign off on the idea.
No, it is if you say, move the car, if you are blocked. Then you decide to take the car for a long drive.
Spamming is stealing.
Or because a woman wears skirt, it is ok to grab her. Just because you get slapped does not mean that it is right, legal, or proper to grab her.
A spammer is a thief by definition.
Spammers intentionally hide their identity and try to make their spam hard to filter.
Actually, an advertiser pays money for the privelege to put something into my a mailbox. A advertiser cannot legally walk up to a mailbox and put advertising into it without paying postage.
If you put your car onto my property, it may be towed or seized.
Which means that you have been told not to send spam, unless you want to pay for it.On my site, it says,
Bernie is a moron spammer.
Prove me wrong by:
If you have a driveway that connects to a public road, then people can park there. Your house is connected to a public road, I can walk in and watch TV. Your car is on a public road, I can use it without your permission.
A spammer that I tracked down was very unhappy that I knocked on his door. He claimed I was tresspassing. How could I, he opted in by having his house accessible by a public road.
If spamming is legal and honorable, why don't you post your real name, address, and phone number with each spam and on each website that you spam about?