It still doesn't come close to justifying the taking of someone's life.
If murder is wrong - then it's wrong in all cases. You can't make an exception to allow the state to take a human life. The taking of a human life is wrong. No exceptions.
People close to me have been killed. Drunk driver once. Crazed druggie boyfriend another one. The loss is great, but the action (taking of a human life) cannot justify a repeat of the action (taking of another human life). The loss may be greater or less depending on who you have lost, but the action is still the same.
An eye for an eye? Just because it says so in the bible? How many other laws are there in the bible that you chose to ignore? You can't pick and choose. The bible is not a place to base your law in. What does the Lord's Prayer state?
"And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us."
Your "ethical" revulsion against these crimes does not fit your own moral standards.
If taking a life is wrong, then it is wrong in all instances. There are no exceptions.
Name a group of offenders that you consider non-REPEAT offenders . . . Not many around are there?
Abused "tend to" become abusers??? You're appallingly wide of the mark here. There is in fact NO evidence to suggest this.
Megan's Law is flawed and should never have been passed. Sarah's Law in the UK had better be dropped after seeing this fiasco.
"Should the father of killed the guy, probably not" ??? PROBABLY??? What kind of an idiot are you? Murder is never right. Ever. Your attitude is truly deplorable.
No-one has the right to take someone else's life. Not even if you pass a law that says execution is OK. It's never right and never will be. Rehabilitation is a problem society has to face. Murder by the state is just a way of avoiding the truth.
Scotland has not been talking about independence for a long time. It's been rejected several times. The latest attempt will hopefully come to nothing also.
If you're unhappy with the United Kingdom - move out. Try Australia. They've got plenty of space and strictly limit the number of foreigners entering the country.
Having done the same move (Tru64 to Linux) and had similar teething problems I can state the following as fact.
The stability issues we had were all down to HP's drivers for their 6404 Raid cards and the Insight Agents.
If we removed the agents (or switched them off if I remember right) the system became solid as a rock.
A few months of working "with" HP on the issues had bugs fixed in the next version of the drivers and the Insight Agents.
I left that company a few years ago now - their big Linux machines haven't fallen over since then. Downtime only for CPU upgrade and extra RAM. How do I know? I still get SMS alerts from HP SIM when these machines go down (or don't as the case may be).
I'll never argue against using Tru64. Those machines were as solid as it got. But the cost of hardware was too much. Moving to Linux gave us much better bang for buck and (eventually) machines that were every bit as reliable as the Tru64 Alphas.
1080 units are certainly not exceptional. You'll find them in Curry's, Comet, John Lewis, small retailers. I don't know a single person with an HD TV that ISN'T 1080 native. There's a MARRIED bloke whos wife wouldn't LET him spend the extras on a 1080, but all the single people have a full 1080 display.
I'd even go so far as to say they're commonplace. Just because they are higher than the price bracket in which you look doesn't mean they don't exist.
Spending £1500 on a 40" display? You'd be an idiot to get a 720 display rather than a 1080.
Good for you - stick with your PS/2 keyboard and mouse. Don't try wireless networking. Don't use a printer. For the REAL world, however, some of us like to use those things.
I've been around Linux for many years now so have seen it when you REALLY had to be picky about the hardware you bought. To offer your 3 points of advice these days is seriously wide of the mark.
1) I've not had a USB device unrecognised under Linux for a while now. And I don't EVER remember a USB keyboard or mouse failing.
2) Wireless is certainly more of a blind-spot for Linux, but maybe I'm fortunate in that 3 of the 4 different wireless devices I've used have worked straight out of the box. The 4th wasn't THAT difficult to install either - although I wouldn't be recommending a novice tried it.
3) Unbelieveable twaddle. Printer management is pretty damn good under Linux in my view. I've not yet come across a printer that Linux can't manage to talk to politely. And I'm talking about a full range of printers from deskjets, personal lasers, high volume colour lasers through to A0 plotters. Never once have I struggled to get them working.
Why I bother replying I don't know - it's only slashdot after all. And a discussion about a Eugenia article at that! At least I've got these monkeys off my back now and can sink as many Guinness as physically possible tonight.
Happy Guinness Day (sorry - did I fall for the marketing ploy there?)
Aside from suckering stupid big companies into over paying for your software
If the chips on your shoulder weren't already obvious, this comment lets us all relax.
I work as a cosultant for several stupid big companies who are installing Linux to replace [NAME YOUR OS HERE].
Not one of them considers their decisions stupid. Not one of them considers themselves ripped off.
The service provided by Red Hat is excellent. Good enough that HP and IBM (among others) resell the products and try to do their own support. Experience of HP supporting Red Hat is awful - ALWAYS get the contracts direct with Red Hat or you'll end up talking to some Muppet on the phone who can't understand why you don't want to XP Media Center on your 8-way DL585!
You clearly have some problems. I reckon you should sort them out before you open your mouth on a public forum. Try some counselling.
I *KNOW* that X and RDP are two different protocols. And I *KNOW* that there are RDP clients for Linux and things out there like FreeNX.
HOWEVER =======
This does nothing about the situation of having large corporate clients using huge numbers of dumb terminals that will ONLY talk to a server via RDP. If what is needed is some kind of interface to allow the X-session to present itself via RDP, then so be it.
There really are a huge number of installations just like this. You CAN get dumb terminals that also support X, but these generally cost more than the RDP only terminals. And why should a company have to throw out all of their dumb terminals to migrate to Linux?
Would make sense is there was an RDP handler within X that performed the translations necessary to allow the RDP terminal to think it was talking to an RDP server. That way (and ONLY that way) you can get the cheap RDP dumb terminals to connect to your X-session.
I've always wanted there to be a way of connecting to X sessions via RDP.
Yes - RDP is heavily underdocumented, and it's a Windows thing.
BUT . . .
There are a huge number of dumb "Citrix" terminals out there in corporate land that only use RDP. If Linux could support these dumb clients connecting, it would remove one of the large costs of migrating to Linux desktops.
To put it into some perspective, I've been involved in 2 major projects to migrate the desktop from Windows/Citrix to Linux, only to be stopped by the cost of having to replace every single dumb terminal.
Is this a stupid idea? Or could it really get wings and start to fly? My X knowledge isn't strong enough to figure out the best way forward.
Your comment about the UK (NOT England thanks) rail infrastructure is rather tainted by what you may have read in the press.
Certainly your facts SEEM to be right, but the underlying currents at the time were that the UK Government were actively trying to force Railtrack into administration in order to re-nationalise it. The press were pals of the government at the time, so Railtrack always came out as the cold hearted evil corporation. But the government had been throttling back the cashflow to Railtrack for some time in order to bleed the company dry.
Once facts are straight, you start to see that the Government in this case has as much of a case to answer as Railtrack.
"and to call their Linux support for support is hypocrisy." - don't quite understand the point here, but if your saying the Linux support is crap - I agree again
My experiences have proven to me that the hardware is rock solid, but try to use as few of the HP software agents or drivers as physically possible!
From your post, I would deduce that you have never used the DL585 Proliant servers in a high load situation with RHEL and Insight Management running.
The Insight Management agents regularly take around 25% of the CPU on a dual Opteron setup.
I do NOT accept this as market leading software. Insight Management is a valuable tool, but not one that I am going to give 25% of my CPU time to - especially when the server is sitting doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
Then there are the drivers . . . DON'T get me started on the drivers. They are basically still in a state of development.
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You may indeed be going down the crapper.
It still doesn't come close to justifying the taking of someone's life.
If murder is wrong - then it's wrong in all cases. You can't make an exception to allow the state to take a human life. The taking of a human life is wrong. No exceptions.
People close to me have been killed. Drunk driver once. Crazed druggie boyfriend another one. The loss is great, but the action (taking of a human life) cannot justify a repeat of the action (taking of another human life). The loss may be greater or less depending on who you have lost, but the action is still the same.
An eye for an eye? Just because it says so in the bible? How many other laws are there in the bible that you chose to ignore? You can't pick and choose. The bible is not a place to base your law in. What does the Lord's Prayer state?
"And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us."
Your "ethical" revulsion against these crimes does not fit your own moral standards.
If taking a life is wrong, then it is wrong in all instances. There are no exceptions.
You are so wrong you're not even right.
Name a group of offenders that you consider non-REPEAT offenders . . . Not many around are there?
Abused "tend to" become abusers??? You're appallingly wide of the mark here. There is in fact NO evidence to suggest this.
Megan's Law is flawed and should never have been passed. Sarah's Law in the UK had better be dropped after seeing this fiasco.
"Should the father of killed the guy, probably not" ??? PROBABLY??? What kind of an idiot are you? Murder is never right. Ever. Your attitude is truly deplorable.
No-one has the right to take someone else's life. Not even if you pass a law that says execution is OK. It's never right and never will be. Rehabilitation is a problem society has to face. Murder by the state is just a way of avoiding the truth.
The has never been, nor will there ever be a separation between advertising and editorial.
We like to think that they live separate lives and are ethically policed, but this is a falacy.
Advertisers know this and have meny different ways of "influencing" things. A sacking may be too far, but what can we do?
D
To correct you.
Scotland has not been talking about independence for a long time. It's been rejected several times. The latest attempt will hopefully come to nothing also.
If you're unhappy with the United Kingdom - move out. Try Australia. They've got plenty of space and strictly limit the number of foreigners entering the country.
Cheers
D
The greater travesty for these bastions of English society would have been a charge in Euros!
D
Yeah - maybe - but did your ass actually fall off too?
Having done the same move (Tru64 to Linux) and had similar teething problems I can state the following as fact.
The stability issues we had were all down to HP's drivers for their 6404 Raid cards and the Insight Agents.
If we removed the agents (or switched them off if I remember right) the system became solid as a rock.
A few months of working "with" HP on the issues had bugs fixed in the next version of the drivers and the Insight Agents.
I left that company a few years ago now - their big Linux machines haven't fallen over since then. Downtime only for CPU upgrade and extra RAM. How do I know? I still get SMS alerts from HP SIM when these machines go down (or don't as the case may be).
I'll never argue against using Tru64. Those machines were as solid as it got. But the cost of hardware was too much. Moving to Linux gave us much better bang for buck and (eventually) machines that were every bit as reliable as the Tru64 Alphas.
Cheers
D
I call bullshit.
1080 units are certainly not exceptional. You'll find them in Curry's, Comet, John Lewis, small retailers. I don't know a single person with an HD TV that ISN'T 1080 native. There's a MARRIED bloke whos wife wouldn't LET him spend the extras on a 1080, but all the single people have a full 1080 display.
I'd even go so far as to say they're commonplace. Just because they are higher than the price bracket in which you look doesn't mean they don't exist.
Spending £1500 on a 40" display? You'd be an idiot to get a 720 display rather than a 1080.
Ever been to a football match where Aberdeen FC happen to be playing?
Aberdeen fans chant the following VERY early on:
We're only sheep sh@gging b@5t@rds
We're only " " "
etc
etc
Takes the wind out of the opposition chants somewhat if you can get their insults in first, but laugh at them instead.
My personal favourite is the one about Ian Durrant!
Lies and lies!
I've never had ANY problems getting eval licenses for RHEL and/or Satellite. Your statements are utter tosh!
Speak to a Red Hat sales rep. If you're looking to download a free version from somewhere - forget it!
Idiot.
Duncan
Good for you - stick with your PS/2 keyboard and mouse. Don't try wireless networking. Don't use a printer. For the REAL world, however, some of us like to use those things.
I've been around Linux for many years now so have seen it when you REALLY had to be picky about the hardware you bought. To offer your 3 points of advice these days is seriously wide of the mark.
1) I've not had a USB device unrecognised under Linux for a while now. And I don't EVER remember a USB keyboard or mouse failing.
2) Wireless is certainly more of a blind-spot for Linux, but maybe I'm fortunate in that 3 of the 4 different wireless devices I've used have worked straight out of the box. The 4th wasn't THAT difficult to install either - although I wouldn't be recommending a novice tried it.
3) Unbelieveable twaddle. Printer management is pretty damn good under Linux in my view. I've not yet come across a printer that Linux can't manage to talk to politely. And I'm talking about a full range of printers from deskjets, personal lasers, high volume colour lasers through to A0 plotters. Never once have I struggled to get them working.
Why I bother replying I don't know - it's only slashdot after all. And a discussion about a Eugenia article at that! At least I've got these monkeys off my back now and can sink as many Guinness as physically possible tonight.
Happy Guinness Day (sorry - did I fall for the marketing ploy there?)
Duncan
At least two people get the underlying issue here ;)
Can't understand a Eugenia article being linked and the majority of comments are NOT about the bias of the review or the opinionated reasoning.
To be honest - it's certainly a long way from Eugenia's worst piece on the web. Perhaps she's mellowing in her old age (says he at 35!).
Duncan
That's GOT to be a winner.
PS3 under telly. HD signal to big TV. MythTV running on the PS3. Network connectivity to large network storage.
Sounds like answer to all my media problems round the house.
The financial controller (the missus) may smell a rat when I propose buying a PS3 though!
Ever heard of PXE boot?
If not - give it a google. No reason to have ANY drives in a machine really.
The correct spelling in my family is
GRANDMA Nazi
(but we don't call her that very often)
I was also caught out by the switch, but I don't consider large corporations who still use the product as stupid.
It's NEVER going to look clever if you use the kind of language the original post does.
Even the title says enough.
Q. "Why do you even matter?"
A. "Becasue there are a huge number of large corporations migrating to Linux on RED HAT"
Simple.
Aside from suckering stupid big companies into over paying for your software
If the chips on your shoulder weren't already obvious, this comment lets us all relax.
I work as a cosultant for several stupid big companies who are installing Linux to replace [NAME YOUR OS HERE].
Not one of them considers their decisions stupid.
Not one of them considers themselves ripped off.
The service provided by Red Hat is excellent. Good enough that HP and IBM (among others) resell the products and try to do their own support. Experience of HP supporting Red Hat is awful - ALWAYS get the contracts direct with Red Hat or you'll end up talking to some Muppet on the phone who can't understand why you don't want to XP Media Center on your 8-way DL585!
You clearly have some problems. I reckon you should sort them out before you open your mouth on a public forum. Try some counselling.
I think there are some people missing the point.
I *KNOW* that X and RDP are two different protocols. And I *KNOW* that there are RDP clients for Linux and things out there like FreeNX.
HOWEVER
=======
This does nothing about the situation of having large corporate clients using huge numbers of dumb terminals that will ONLY talk to a server via RDP. If what is needed is some kind of interface to allow the X-session to present itself via RDP, then so be it.
There really are a huge number of installations just like this. You CAN get dumb terminals that also support X, but these generally cost more than the RDP only terminals. And why should a company have to throw out all of their dumb terminals to migrate to Linux?
Would make sense is there was an RDP handler within X that performed the translations necessary to allow the RDP terminal to think it was talking to an RDP server. That way (and ONLY that way) you can get the cheap RDP dumb terminals to connect to your X-session.
Duncan
I've always wanted there to be a way of connecting to X sessions via RDP.
Yes - RDP is heavily underdocumented, and it's a Windows thing.
BUT . . .
There are a huge number of dumb "Citrix" terminals out there in corporate land that only use RDP. If Linux could support these dumb clients connecting, it would remove one of the large costs of migrating to Linux desktops.
To put it into some perspective, I've been involved in 2 major projects to migrate the desktop from Windows/Citrix to Linux, only to be stopped by the cost of having to replace every single dumb terminal.
Is this a stupid idea? Or could it really get wings and start to fly? My X knowledge isn't strong enough to figure out the best way forward.
Cheers
Duncan
The collective noun for chav happens to be chavalanche.
Thankfully I am part of the pre-27-point-drop class.
Standards have been slipping - my old Uni now considers some courses to be worthy of entrance exams to ensure the calibre of entrants.
Shame
Your comment about the UK (NOT England thanks) rail infrastructure is rather tainted by what you may have read in the press.
Certainly your facts SEEM to be right, but the underlying currents at the time were that the UK Government were actively trying to force Railtrack into administration in order to re-nationalise it. The press were pals of the government at the time, so Railtrack always came out as the cold hearted evil corporation. But the government had been throttling back the cashflow to Railtrack for some time in order to bleed the company dry.
Once facts are straight, you start to see that the Government in this case has as much of a case to answer as Railtrack.
It's got to have a floppy drive built in. Things just DON'T work unless there's a floppy drive!
Is there not enough prior art with the old ASCII smileys which could be customised to the users whim?
I don't remember them all now, but two that always made me smile (in that slightly juvenille undergrad way) were
8- Boy smiley
>- Girl smiley
I'm pretty sure the list was huge as you had a certain amount of customisation by adding different characters.
Surely graphical smileys are just an extension of this and not a demonstrable leap to justify a patent?
"But the hardware agents for Linux blows" - agree
"the driver support blows" - agree
"and to call their Linux support for support is hypocrisy." - don't quite understand the point here, but if your saying the Linux support is crap - I agree again
My experiences have proven to me that the hardware is rock solid, but try to use as few of the HP software agents or drivers as physically possible!
From your post, I would deduce that you have never used the DL585 Proliant servers in a high load situation with RHEL and Insight Management running.
The Insight Management agents regularly take around 25% of the CPU on a dual Opteron setup.
I do NOT accept this as market leading software. Insight Management is a valuable tool, but not one that I am going to give 25% of my CPU time to - especially when the server is sitting doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
Then there are the drivers . . . DON'T get me started on the drivers. They are basically still in a state of development.