Sour Grapes. So the game isn't everything you wanted? Poor baby! If everything you say about Sony's entire point being to keep you playing the game, and game time, then why don't they charge by the hour instead of monthly?
We use tomcat in an ASP hosting 30 clients, as well as ship it with our software license. All told we have over 50 clients using tomcat, each with user bases in the 100k's. Tomcat has been very stable, reliable, and efficient. However don't ever hope to understand anything from the docs: "fixme" is printed more than periods. The tomcat-users mailing list is an excellent resource when the docs fail you.
go to freshmeat.net. Search for SAP-DB: 3 project found. Search for mysql: 935 projects found.
Why reinvent a wheel that rolls just fine? Whatever the SAPdb-vs-PG-vs.-mysql arguments may or may not be, the bottom line is that most of us would have to dramatically recode, reconfigure, or recreate our lovely stable environments, with little if any actual return for the time. Face it, Open Source software is a market. There is no market demand for this.
great idea! repress opposing viewpoints and succumb to./ groupthink! I'll change my views right away. Guys my post was simply pointing out that with all the valid, newsworthy stories that get killed daily by the groupthink here, it's amazing that something as petty and predictable as this showed up on the front page.
I'm lumping all the preceding comments together in this response. I KNOW it's for business. My point is made quite clearly in the last sentence: for people who don't like to think.
I'm not entirely clear how this is any different from what exists, other than cosmetically. If you people are convinced that the value of UL is to "unify" the distros into standard implementations, then it only really benefits the tech support people supporting it! We've clarified that the thinkers won't need/use UL, as they can `find / -iname "apachectl"` when they need it. So we have a distro that is easier for some guy to at Caldera to support if his customer bought from SUSE. SO WHAT?
there will be people willing to buy for that extra reliability. that's obviously what he's trying to sell. However, I don't have much faith that corporate groupthink will come up with a superior linux distro. and, for that matter, how could there be "extra reliability" on systems that (for free) already run 5 9's?
If this is an offering for the desktop, then great, but in several comments he seems to be bringinga out the word "server". Why would I as a corporate admin, ever choose to pay for what I can get free? A fair portion of why we run linux is the cost benefit!
I wish these guys luck on getting enterprise software companies that have commitments to RH to port to the most confused distro in existence.
What is that supposed to mean? I have to pay for the United Linux product to get upgrades (free with any other linux distro) and tech support (mailing lists, faqs, deja, etc)? I must assume from this model that they are really only targeting the numb masses of people who don't like the nuts and bolts of linux. Seems clear that UL will become not a distro for linux users, but a crossover distro for people who don't like to think.
Re:The news value of this article was what?
on
Revolution OS
·
· Score: 1
not to mention that satellite uploads would be limited to 53333. If comcast goes dark for more than 4 weeks, I will have to belly up to Frame Relay with AT&T or Sprint. That would have it's own flavor of suckiness as the EVIL LEC SWBELL (check out this) would get some $$$ for it.
I will become a hermit and raise chickens before I go back to analog connectivity. I threw away my old modem back in 96, and will never, ever go back.
well, not to mention that satellite's upload speeds are limited to 53333... if comcast were to go dark for more than 4 weeks, I would just buy me some frame relay from Sprint or AT&T. This would still suck, as the EVIL LEC SWBELL (check out this) would be getting some of those funds.
I dropped off of dial up in 96, and wouldn't go back to it if I was paid. I will start raising chickens and become a hermit before I go back to friggin analog anything.
unless you live in a hole, or perhaps are in the 3rd world, they are made of this new stuff called 'fiber'. it's glass. it's better than copper. you should look into it.
I'm a Comcast user in Kansas City, KS (suburb of Olathe) and am still on, for now. They actually have this page http://www.comcastonline.com/info.htm where they (seriously) link to their 'backup plan'.
That plan is a 10 hr/mo netzero account! If it wasn't so painfully close to me it would be the funniest thing I ever heard.
I'm one of those brave souls that has _no_ copper into the home, sick to death of the local LEC (SWBell) I refuse to pay one dime to them. So if @home/Comcast go dark, I lose bandwidth for the first time in nearly 7 years.
I, too, am conventionally not a game machine guy, UNTIL they announced a Linux port for the Playstation. NOW I feel justified in shelling out a few hundered bones for a device that allows me to:
play some of the best games around
watch DVD's
Run a webserver
Surf the Net
Sure I can put together a mid-level PC for the same price, but I can't play DOA2 and MGS2 on the PC! Yay Playstation. All other game consoles suck.
agreed. while there's a certain geek factor involved in building a laptop, the time and effort alone will cost double a brand new *insert laptop here*... parts will end up tripling that cost. roll your own desktop, and take the money you save there and put it into your kickin laptop purchase.
After months of frustration at trying to get ION, I finally broke down and signed up for @home. My fw logs are a tedious stream of nimda and code red horse poopie. Meanwhile my overall bandwidth performance degrades by the hour. Like many of you I use my connection at home for some telecommuting duties, which has been impossible for the last week, and for a full two weeks during codered. It continues to amaze me that the average user is not only lazy, and stupid, but is completely unwilling to take responsibility for the reprecussions of their actions! Let's say I go and have sex with 18 prostitutes in thailand wearing the _same_ condom. Then I find I'm HIV positive. Who has sympathy for me??? PLEASE cut my dick off! Perhaps someday the courts will create a 'computer school' like traffic school and force repeat offenders to pass some courses before they're allowed in front of a keyboard. There could be movies like "Red Flashing Lights" and "Blood on the Admin" that show what stupid IIS worm propogation does the the heart of IT folks everywhere who, although not running IIS themselves, find their upstreams throttled by a pile of uneducated maroons!
We have a primarily RedHat environment and aren't using tapes due to cost. What we setup is an x86 box with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter and 3 17 Gig drives. Amanda - http://www.amanda.org backs up the boxes onto these scsi disks (holding disks in amanda terminology). It requires a bit of disk monkey maintenance, but we can keep about 2 weeks of backups this way. If we wanted/needed more than 2 weeks back (we don't) we could just buy more disks. Restores are lighting fast from SCSI. Amanda is pretty darned reliable, and only requires the occasional kick. I have it backing up RH, Solaris, 98, and FreeBSD.
As I read these comments, what I had feared all along was seems to bear out. The promoter (if there was one) for this show did a _terrible_ job. I live and work in Kansas City as a Systems Admin. Better than 95% of our server environment is *NIX and better than 75% of that is Linux. How did I find out about the show? One of our _Sales_people get's emailed about trade shows held at that location! Promotion for this show on a local scale was weak, and on a regional/national scale it was non-existent.
The website's signup form did not work. We all registered online and there were no badges waiting for us. When we got there, they had a 'automated' signup form that also didn't work.
What exhibitors were there did a great job of representing their organizations, but without an audience it must have been tough to stay upbeat.
I do not feel that this show should be taken as a reflection on Kansas City's Linux community. There is trememndous support here, and I think another go next year is a good idea. FOR GOD'S SAKE, get someone who knows how to get the word out!
Listen Pal, I don't know what 14.4 modem you're connecting with, but if it takes you 5 minutes for slashdot to load, chances are it's YOUR bandwidth problem, not an OS availability problem. For the record, my boxes run both linux and FreeBSD, both optimally well.
Slashdot Mirror
Sour Grapes. So the game isn't everything you wanted? Poor baby! If everything you say about Sony's entire point being to keep you playing the game, and game time, then why don't they charge by the hour instead of monthly?
We use tomcat in an ASP hosting 30 clients, as well as ship it with our software license. All told we have over 50 clients using tomcat, each with user bases in the 100k's. Tomcat has been very stable, reliable, and efficient. However don't ever hope to understand anything from the docs: "fixme" is printed more than periods. The tomcat-users mailing list is an excellent resource when the docs fail you.
go to freshmeat.net. Search for SAP-DB: 3 project found. Search for mysql: 935 projects found.
Why reinvent a wheel that rolls just fine? Whatever the SAPdb-vs-PG-vs.-mysql arguments may or may not be, the bottom line is that most of us would have to dramatically recode, reconfigure, or recreate our lovely stable environments, with little if any actual return for the time. Face it, Open Source software is a market. There is no market demand for this.
great idea! repress opposing viewpoints and succumb to ./ groupthink! I'll change my views right away. Guys my post was simply pointing out that with all the valid, newsworthy stories that get killed daily by the groupthink here, it's amazing that something as petty and predictable as this showed up on the front page.
how this is worthy of frontpage news? I mean Christ: Microsoft can cause legal troubles?
This just handed to me: Sun rises in East.
Pope Catholic, film at 11
Guys if you don't have anything new and worthy, just don't post anything. Nothing is better than crap.
Darwinism is concerned with the suitability of creatures to their environment
exactly the point of calling them Darwin awards. Winners are not suited to their environment. (morons cannot exist in a society of thinking beings.).
the fact that 85% of the population actually deserves to win is an aside.
I'm lumping all the preceding comments together in this response. I KNOW it's for business. My point is made quite clearly in the last sentence: for people who don't like to think.
I'm not entirely clear how this is any different from what exists, other than cosmetically. If you people are convinced that the value of UL is to "unify" the distros into standard implementations, then it only really benefits the tech support people supporting it! We've clarified that the thinkers won't need/use UL, as they can `find / -iname "apachectl"` when they need it. So we have a distro that is easier for some guy to at Caldera to support if his customer bought from SUSE. SO WHAT?
there will be people willing to buy for that extra reliability.
that's obviously what he's trying to sell. However, I don't have much faith that corporate groupthink will come up with a superior linux distro. and, for that matter, how could there be "extra reliability" on systems that (for free) already run 5 9's?
If this is an offering for the desktop, then great, but in several comments he seems to be bringinga out the word "server". Why would I as a corporate admin, ever choose to pay for what I can get free? A fair portion of why we run linux is the cost benefit!
I wish these guys luck on getting enterprise software companies that have commitments to RH to port to the most confused distro in existence.
What is that supposed to mean? I have to pay for the United Linux product to get upgrades (free with any other linux distro) and tech support (mailing lists, faqs, deja, etc)? I must assume from this model that they are really only targeting the numb masses of people who don't like the nuts and bolts of linux. Seems clear that UL will become not a distro for linux users, but a crossover distro for people who don't like to think.
CmdrTaco and CowboyNeal ego stroking?
heh, i realised _after_ the post that I worded that backwards... i Live in Olathe, a Suburb of the Greater KC area... that's much better.
not to mention that satellite uploads would be limited to 53333. If comcast goes dark for more than 4 weeks, I will have to belly up to Frame Relay with AT&T or Sprint. That would have it's own flavor of suckiness as the EVIL LEC SWBELL (check out this) would get some $$$ for it.
I will become a hermit and raise chickens before I go back to analog connectivity. I threw away my old modem back in 96, and will never, ever go back.
well, not to mention that satellite's upload speeds are limited to 53333... if comcast were to go dark for more than 4 weeks, I would just buy me some frame relay from Sprint or AT&T. This would still suck, as the EVIL LEC SWBELL (check out this) would be getting some of those funds.
I dropped off of dial up in 96, and wouldn't go back to it if I was paid. I will start raising chickens and become a hermit before I go back to friggin analog anything.
unless you live in a hole, or perhaps are in the 3rd world, they are made of this new stuff called 'fiber'. it's glass. it's better than copper. you should look into it.
I'm a Comcast user in Kansas City, KS (suburb of Olathe) and am still on, for now. They actually have this page http://www.comcastonline.com/info.htm where they (seriously) link to their 'backup plan'.
That plan is a 10 hr/mo netzero account! If it wasn't so painfully close to me it would be the funniest thing I ever heard.
I'm one of those brave souls that has _no_ copper into the home, sick to death of the local LEC (SWBell) I refuse to pay one dime to them. So if @home/Comcast go dark, I lose bandwidth for the first time in nearly 7 years.
ANOTHER reason that PS2 kicks Xbox/GameCube ass:
PS2 will be getting an ethernet card soon.
'nuff said.
I, too, am conventionally not a game machine guy, UNTIL they announced a Linux port for the Playstation. NOW I feel justified in shelling out a few hundered bones for a device that allows me to:
play some of the best games around
watch DVD's
Run a webserver
Surf the Net
Sure I can put together a mid-level PC for the same price, but I can't play DOA2 and MGS2 on the PC! Yay Playstation. All other game consoles suck.
agreed. while there's a certain geek factor involved in building a laptop, the time and effort alone will cost double a brand new *insert laptop here*... parts will end up tripling that cost. roll your own desktop, and take the money you save there and put it into your kickin laptop purchase.
After months of frustration at trying to get ION, I finally broke down and signed up for @home. My fw logs are a tedious stream of nimda and code red horse poopie. Meanwhile my overall bandwidth performance degrades by the hour. Like many of you I use my connection at home for some telecommuting duties, which has been impossible for the last week, and for a full two weeks during codered. It continues to amaze me that the average user is not only lazy, and stupid, but is completely unwilling to take responsibility for the reprecussions of their actions! Let's say I go and have sex with 18 prostitutes in thailand wearing the _same_ condom. Then I find I'm HIV positive. Who has sympathy for me??? PLEASE cut my dick off! Perhaps someday the courts will create a 'computer school' like traffic school and force repeat offenders to pass some courses before they're allowed in front of a keyboard. There could be movies like "Red Flashing Lights" and "Blood on the Admin" that show what stupid IIS worm propogation does the the heart of IT folks everywhere who, although not running IIS themselves, find their upstreams throttled by a pile of uneducated maroons!
it's a comin down in flames
We have a primarily RedHat environment and aren't using tapes due to cost. What we setup is an x86 box with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter and 3 17 Gig drives. Amanda - http://www.amanda.org backs up the boxes onto these scsi disks (holding disks in amanda terminology). It requires a bit of disk monkey maintenance, but we can keep about 2 weeks of backups this way. If we wanted/needed more than 2 weeks back (we don't) we could just buy more disks. Restores are lighting fast from SCSI. Amanda is pretty darned reliable, and only requires the occasional kick. I have it backing up RH, Solaris, 98, and FreeBSD.
As I read these comments, what I had feared all along was seems to bear out. The promoter (if there was one) for this show did a _terrible_ job. I live and work in Kansas City as a Systems Admin. Better than 95% of our server environment is *NIX and better than 75% of that is Linux. How did I find out about the show? One of our _Sales_people get's emailed about trade shows held at that location! Promotion for this show on a local scale was weak, and on a regional/national scale it was non-existent.
The website's signup form did not work. We all registered online and there were no badges waiting for us. When we got there, they had a 'automated' signup form that also didn't work.
What exhibitors were there did a great job of representing their organizations, but without an audience it must have been tough to stay upbeat.
I do not feel that this show should be taken as a reflection on Kansas City's Linux community. There is trememndous support here, and I think another go next year is a good idea. FOR GOD'S SAKE, get someone who knows how to get the word out!
Listen Pal, I don't know what 14.4 modem you're connecting with, but if it takes you 5 minutes for slashdot to load, chances are it's YOUR bandwidth problem, not an OS availability problem. For the record, my boxes run both linux and FreeBSD, both optimally well.