I have comcast and when I run a vpn, they can TRY to inject all they want. it bounces off the side (lol).
then again, they disconnect me when I use my vpn and I have to have an auto 'redial' script that pings gateways and reboots the modem when comcrap decides I used enough opaque bw for the day.
https needs to be everywhere, so that rogue isp's can't fuck with your stream. they want to. we can't let them.
you will be called names (like I was, in my similar post).
those who try to get their way (gov shills, mostly, trying to erode the actual discussion, here, with noise and distraction) will keep at it and pick at OUR emotions.
don't weaken, brothers! we have to stay strong and not allow those who would destroy what little privacy we still have left, for their personal power-grab needs.
it does not matter WHAT emotional-tug reasons they give. we have to stay strong and ignore any insults they throw at us.
when they start name-calling, you know they have run out of any rational arguments to support their cause. this is all they have and we need to be smarter about it so that we don't get USED like we got used during the US patriot act. they played us like fools and we have still not recovered from that trainwreck of a law.
policy (what this is about; its not/never about a single 'phone') should never be made by those who are under emtional stress. this is what gave us the patriot act.
you want more of that shit? then let grieving this and that make our laws. we'll be 100% reactionary and create 10x as many laws for every 'upset parent' in the world.
someone has to stand up and say 'enough is enough' and those who had a tragedy occur are NOT the ones who should ever get to define new laws or rules that the rest of us have to endure.
this is not about compassion; (nice try gov shill) but its about stopping the ever-encroaching 'appeal to emtion' that is crippling this country. yes, crippling. and it has to stop.
call me a monster. I could give a shit what you think about me. the point is that RATIONAL people don't make laws for shit like this.
lots of bad things happen to people, but that's life. it sucks. life sucks, overall. what do you want; every single emotional appeal to justify new public policy?
again, you're an idiot or a shill. go fuck off. we see thru your shit and are not buying it.
if the kid, knowing he was going to die soon, did not export or 'share' his photos, why do you think the father has as right to them?
this was not a sudden car crash. they knew this was going to happen and the father did not get the son to open his phone for him, to at least send over the things that -should- be shared?
how is this a problem that should be solved by the world; and not a parent-and-son-ONLY problem?
we feel for you. but asking now is, well, a bit of poor planning. and no, the world does not just simply weaken its security because of emotional appeals.
the 'patriot act' was done 100% on emotional apppeal, and look where THAT got us! nothing good came from patriot act. and nothing good EVER comes from laws or policies based on pure emotion.
they will try ANY and EVERYTHING to pull at our heart-strings.
"PLEASE!!! we have a REAL reason this time! oh, pretty please with sugar on top??"
my god, this is pathetic. while its understandable that the 'issue' here is upsetting, it may not be real - and even if its real, its still a privacy attach by you-know-who against the rest of us.
the governments are showing their true colors right now. some level of evil that we have not even seen on villian/superhero style movies.
they will keep at it, trying to emotion-us into giving them total panopticon powers. we have to stay vigilent and refuse every attempt to destoy privacy via 'emotional cases' like this.
or, there WAS NO HACK and they simply are lying to cover their damned asses.
my guess is that they have no hack and they want us all to think they broke in, so they could abandon a LOSING COURT CASE before the proper precident (one that favors freedom instead of unwarranted authoritarian power-grabs) was set.
the simplest explanation is often the case: they were losing big-time in the court of public opinion and they could not force the richest company IN THE WORLD to do their petty bidding. they knew they'd lose and so they cower with tail between legs, making up a fake 'victory story' which is 100% opposite of the actual truth.
the good guys have switches places, it seems. I wonder if/when we'll get our real good guys back? will that happen in our lifetime?
its called LIARS DAY and it 'celebrates' the fact that our government will happily lie, cheat or steal to get what it wants; ironically, becoming the very evil it claims to be at war against!
april first is 'all fools day'; I propse we take the day before and call it 'all liars day' and we all wear fbi, cia, nsa, leo costumes and make a big party of it.
(sigh. yes, this is depressing. humor is the only way I can deal with such bullshit.)
if its possible to have less than zero percent trust in our 'national security' agencies, this is what we are left with, at this point.
they can sing and dance about all they want. but what they say is not trustable and no one should base any conclusions at all on their 'info'. its all about what they want and they'll lie, cheat or steal to get it.
common criminals who think they are on the 'right' side but have lost their way big-time. that's what the fbi, nsa, cia and all the rest are, at this point.
way to get the trust of the american (and ROW) people, guys! good show. good job.
lol. bunch of idiots, in reality. they could not have ruined their own rep any more if they tried.
one good thing: the young people are seeing the country for what it is and they will grow up mistrusting their leaders. THAT'S A GOOD THING - it shows that we are finally starting to realize what the reality of the world is; and not the disney fairy stories that we are taught when we grow up. people in the LEO field are not afraid to lie or cheat or steal to get what they want. they are thugs with badges and inferiority complexes. and they do NOT have our best interests at heart!
so, its good that we as a people are seeing how rotton our leaders and top secret orgs are. its good that the laundry gets aired every now and then.
don't trust the man. it was true decades ago and its still true, today.
oh, so you mean, *incompetantly done*, with probably more holes than a swiss cheese?
sony can't do anything right anymore. 30 years ago, sure, they were the go-to company for electronics. now, they are a shell of what they once were. I can't remember the last sony item I bought (ignoring chips inside finished goods).
you and I and 99.99% of everyone else here has NO IDEA what the truth is.
it could be that the fbi already has the data, but they are trying for court precidents. could be that the nsa already has the data. could be that apple has a friendly relationship (at the most secret level) with feds and yet keeps a two-face story going.
not one single person here (who would be dumb enough to post) has any clue at all.
we are wasting our time even talking about such things.
and, would I buy a 'secure' iphone, now? I still don't trust a single person who has anything to do with cellphones and chips, these days. there's not the tinest bit of trust in what they would tell us.
hell, even intel cpus (for desktops, etc) are a complete mystery. orange books that claim to only be given to the top oem's, which give the REAL internals of the cpu chips - you and I will never see those and we can't even be sure they really exist.
this is the world we live in. zero trust, at this point. if your mamma tells you she loves you, 'check it out'.
you think 'staff members' have full *important* code access?
ha!
the more important the code is, the higher up you have to have authorization to even KNOW about. at least any real company does that. you can't even see some dirs unless you are authorized.
not the whole company, but the parts that deal with crypto.
if apple was smart(er) they would be actively working on a fullproof decoupling of the base system from the crypto. make it so that its actually impossible for US forces to storm any apple site and try to force the company to do the feds' bidding.
the crypto code would not be on any network, not even any apple network. the build would be done locally via specially vetted employees, etc etc. you can imagine how it could work.
what they have now (I'm totally guessing) is not anything like this. and that means they could be forced to do a 'special build' for someone; anyone with enough force and might. but if their whole build system was setup to repel such attacks, THAT would truly be praise-worthy.
a clean install of win7, frequent backups and no win update AT ALL.
I'm done trusting win update. I'll prefer to restore from backup if I need to; and I never browse risky sites using windows (never did, never will).
its a shame we have to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but its best this way, for us end-users.
too bad corp america won't learn from this. I was at a very large bay area company, on a contract, and I was shocked to see win10 deployed inside for internal use. this is a company that makes cpu chips, if you get what I'm saying. and even they were dumb enough to allow win10 to be in its internal network. boggle!
any company that CARES about preserving your privacy via their software should be considering a plugin-style architecture where the crypto code is fully decoupled from normal software development and is done entirely outside of US (and UK and oz and...) control.
eventually, some day, the feds ARE going to do a raid of US companies and they will storm the place, take what they want (robber barons, anyone?) and any company that has NOT pushed its critical modules offshore will be in a sad and sorry situation. and us users, too!
its clear the might of the US government wants what it wants, just like a baby. they have no idea what they are really asking, but like a baby, it does not care, it simply feels a need an cries to anyone who is in earshot that it NEEDS something.
the only defense is to move the critical modules offshore and in no ONE SINGLE PLACE. any one place can also be raided.
in fact, I would take a lesson from the pirate bay! they seem to have worked out a strat where they are sufficiently distributed and no take-downs really affect them anymore.
what I really think this is about: they already have the backdoor (have had it for probably a long time, maybe forever) but they are putting on a show for us all, to keep us thinking that the comms are still secure. apple gets to 'fight the good fight' and keep their shareholder value.
if the feds lose the case, all goes back to how it was (they have to use 'parallel reconstruction' to use their ill-gotton info in court). if they win, they have a field day and start fishing on us all.
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I have comcast and when I run a vpn, they can TRY to inject all they want. it bounces off the side (lol).
then again, they disconnect me when I use my vpn and I have to have an auto 'redial' script that pings gateways and reboots the modem when comcrap decides I used enough opaque bw for the day.
https needs to be everywhere, so that rogue isp's can't fuck with your stream. they want to. we can't let them.
fuck off and die.
those who would weaken security for 'think of the children!' bullshit deserve nothing.
peddle your FUD elsewhere. we're not buying it. we've been thru this too many times to be fooled by this tactic again.
ever see the liberty statue? there's a blindfold there for a reason, mate.
you will be called names (like I was, in my similar post).
those who try to get their way (gov shills, mostly, trying to erode the actual discussion, here, with noise and distraction) will keep at it and pick at OUR emotions.
don't weaken, brothers! we have to stay strong and not allow those who would destroy what little privacy we still have left, for their personal power-grab needs.
it does not matter WHAT emotional-tug reasons they give. we have to stay strong and ignore any insults they throw at us.
when they start name-calling, you know they have run out of any rational arguments to support their cause. this is all they have and we need to be smarter about it so that we don't get USED like we got used during the US patriot act. they played us like fools and we have still not recovered from that trainwreck of a law.
policy (what this is about; its not/never about a single 'phone') should never be made by those who are under emtional stress. this is what gave us the patriot act.
you want more of that shit? then let grieving this and that make our laws. we'll be 100% reactionary and create 10x as many laws for every 'upset parent' in the world.
someone has to stand up and say 'enough is enough' and those who had a tragedy occur are NOT the ones who should ever get to define new laws or rules that the rest of us have to endure.
this is not about compassion; (nice try gov shill) but its about stopping the ever-encroaching 'appeal to emtion' that is crippling this country. yes, crippling. and it has to stop.
call me a monster. I could give a shit what you think about me. the point is that RATIONAL people don't make laws for shit like this.
lots of bad things happen to people, but that's life. it sucks. life sucks, overall. what do you want; every single emotional appeal to justify new public policy?
again, you're an idiot or a shill. go fuck off. we see thru your shit and are not buying it.
if the kid, knowing he was going to die soon, did not export or 'share' his photos, why do you think the father has as right to them?
this was not a sudden car crash. they knew this was going to happen and the father did not get the son to open his phone for him, to at least send over the things that -should- be shared?
how is this a problem that should be solved by the world; and not a parent-and-son-ONLY problem?
we feel for you. but asking now is, well, a bit of poor planning. and no, the world does not just simply weaken its security because of emotional appeals.
the 'patriot act' was done 100% on emotional apppeal, and look where THAT got us! nothing good came from patriot act. and nothing good EVER comes from laws or policies based on pure emotion.
they will try ANY and EVERYTHING to pull at our heart-strings.
"PLEASE!!! we have a REAL reason this time! oh, pretty please with sugar on top??"
my god, this is pathetic. while its understandable that the 'issue' here is upsetting, it may not be real - and even if its real, its still a privacy attach by you-know-who against the rest of us.
the governments are showing their true colors right now. some level of evil that we have not even seen on villian/superhero style movies.
they will keep at it, trying to emotion-us into giving them total panopticon powers. we have to stay vigilent and refuse every attempt to destoy privacy via 'emotional cases' like this.
how can we make this issue work for our BOTTOM LINE?
THIS IS ALL APPLE AND GOOG CARE ABOUT.
its not about freedom. dont kid yourself.
I hope they call it Ubuntu Runner.
then, will they change their email client's name to 'strong-bad email'?
(GOML)
or, there WAS NO HACK and they simply are lying to cover their damned asses.
my guess is that they have no hack and they want us all to think they broke in, so they could abandon a LOSING COURT CASE before the proper precident (one that favors freedom instead of unwarranted authoritarian power-grabs) was set.
the simplest explanation is often the case: they were losing big-time in the court of public opinion and they could not force the richest company IN THE WORLD to do their petty bidding. they knew they'd lose and so they cower with tail between legs, making up a fake 'victory story' which is 100% opposite of the actual truth.
the good guys have switches places, it seems. I wonder if/when we'll get our real good guys back? will that happen in our lifetime?
its called LIARS DAY and it 'celebrates' the fact that our government will happily lie, cheat or steal to get what it wants; ironically, becoming the very evil it claims to be at war against!
april first is 'all fools day'; I propse we take the day before and call it 'all liars day' and we all wear fbi, cia, nsa, leo costumes and make a big party of it.
(sigh. yes, this is depressing. humor is the only way I can deal with such bullshit.)
if its possible to have less than zero percent trust in our 'national security' agencies, this is what we are left with, at this point.
they can sing and dance about all they want. but what they say is not trustable and no one should base any conclusions at all on their 'info'. its all about what they want and they'll lie, cheat or steal to get it.
common criminals who think they are on the 'right' side but have lost their way big-time. that's what the fbi, nsa, cia and all the rest are, at this point.
way to get the trust of the american (and ROW) people, guys! good show. good job.
lol. bunch of idiots, in reality. they could not have ruined their own rep any more if they tried.
one good thing: the young people are seeing the country for what it is and they will grow up mistrusting their leaders. THAT'S A GOOD THING - it shows that we are finally starting to realize what the reality of the world is; and not the disney fairy stories that we are taught when we grow up. people in the LEO field are not afraid to lie or cheat or steal to get what they want. they are thugs with badges and inferiority complexes. and they do NOT have our best interests at heart!
so, its good that we as a people are seeing how rotton our leaders and top secret orgs are. its good that the laundry gets aired every now and then.
don't trust the man. it was true decades ago and its still true, today.
"developed by sony..."
oh, so you mean, *incompetantly done*, with probably more holes than a swiss cheese?
sony can't do anything right anymore. 30 years ago, sure, they were the go-to company for electronics. now, they are a shell of what they once were. I can't remember the last sony item I bought (ignoring chips inside finished goods).
I am not going to answer a stupid question like that.
instead, you should be forced to tell us why the right to anonymity should be TAKEN AWAY after so many years of having it?
do not ask us to justify our freedom; instead, demand that we get justification for REMOVING them.
so far, I have not seen a single reason that justifies the removal of anon calling.
and that's because - there IS NO VALID REASON to remove that freedom.
only terrorists (ie, government goons who want to keep us in constant fear and surveillance) would want this. why do you hate america so much, poster?
he has the mind of a child and he's spoiled rotton. he gets his own way in spite of himself.
just what we do NOT need as president of the US.
there are no leftests *left* in the US.
we have far right, right, and slightly centerists. not a single leftest other than bernie, which is not going to get anywhere (sadly).
you and I and 99.99% of everyone else here has NO IDEA what the truth is.
it could be that the fbi already has the data, but they are trying for court precidents. could be that the nsa already has the data. could be that apple has a friendly relationship (at the most secret level) with feds and yet keeps a two-face story going.
not one single person here (who would be dumb enough to post) has any clue at all.
we are wasting our time even talking about such things.
and, would I buy a 'secure' iphone, now? I still don't trust a single person who has anything to do with cellphones and chips, these days. there's not the tinest bit of trust in what they would tell us.
hell, even intel cpus (for desktops, etc) are a complete mystery. orange books that claim to only be given to the top oem's, which give the REAL internals of the cpu chips - you and I will never see those and we can't even be sure they really exist.
this is the world we live in. zero trust, at this point. if your mamma tells you she loves you, 'check it out'.
a crude - but very to-the-point quote:
"never get your pussy where you get your paycheck"
you think 'staff members' have full *important* code access?
ha!
the more important the code is, the higher up you have to have authorization to even KNOW about. at least any real company does that. you can't even see some dirs unless you are authorized.
not the whole company, but the parts that deal with crypto.
if apple was smart(er) they would be actively working on a fullproof decoupling of the base system from the crypto. make it so that its actually impossible for US forces to storm any apple site and try to force the company to do the feds' bidding.
the crypto code would not be on any network, not even any apple network. the build would be done locally via specially vetted employees, etc etc. you can imagine how it could work.
what they have now (I'm totally guessing) is not anything like this. and that means they could be forced to do a 'special build' for someone; anyone with enough force and might. but if their whole build system was setup to repel such attacks, THAT would truly be praise-worthy.
do they have this? does anyone? I wonder.
at my last 'windows based' job, they also insisted on malware bytes. the admins tended to be clueful there, too. so maybe there's something to it.
at home, though, I refuse to run them. I refuse to run windows7 update and have deinstalled all bad updates.
backup and restore is my new friend. that, and avoiding doing anything online with windows, as much as I can.
antirvir is not useful for techies and its more trouble than its worth.
a clean install of win7, frequent backups and no win update AT ALL.
I'm done trusting win update. I'll prefer to restore from backup if I need to; and I never browse risky sites using windows (never did, never will).
its a shame we have to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but its best this way, for us end-users.
too bad corp america won't learn from this. I was at a very large bay area company, on a contract, and I was shocked to see win10 deployed inside for internal use. this is a company that makes cpu chips, if you get what I'm saying. and even they were dumb enough to allow win10 to be in its internal network. boggle!
any company that CARES about preserving your privacy via their software should be considering a plugin-style architecture where the crypto code is fully decoupled from normal software development and is done entirely outside of US (and UK and oz and ...) control.
eventually, some day, the feds ARE going to do a raid of US companies and they will storm the place, take what they want (robber barons, anyone?) and any company that has NOT pushed its critical modules offshore will be in a sad and sorry situation. and us users, too!
its clear the might of the US government wants what it wants, just like a baby. they have no idea what they are really asking, but like a baby, it does not care, it simply feels a need an cries to anyone who is in earshot that it NEEDS something.
the only defense is to move the critical modules offshore and in no ONE SINGLE PLACE. any one place can also be raided.
in fact, I would take a lesson from the pirate bay! they seem to have worked out a strat where they are sufficiently distributed and no take-downs really affect them anymore.
why do you think the 'magic programmers' are ALL in cupertino, eh?
not that I would know. I don't. but if I were in charge of apple, I certainly would not have all my key security guys IN THE USA, of all places...
what I really think this is about: they already have the backdoor (have had it for probably a long time, maybe forever) but they are putting on a show for us all, to keep us thinking that the comms are still secure. apple gets to 'fight the good fight' and keep their shareholder value.
if the feds lose the case, all goes back to how it was (they have to use 'parallel reconstruction' to use their ill-gotton info in court). if they win, they have a field day and start fishing on us all.
right - this isn't just police tactics; its mafia tactics.
how nice - the fbi is now at the same level as tony soprano.
home of the free, land of the brave. yeah, maybe a long time ago, but not anymore ;(