re: obama vs bush; its impossible to say what the other would do if things were switched.
its clear that people are affected by what is currently going on. if bush were in office now, its not likely that he would act any differently.
I'll go further; pick your favorite president - ANY of them (past, living, whatever) and would you honestly believe that they would deny the state its *desire* for 'total info awareness'?
its not about a person, anymore. abs power and all that - its true. no one can resist that much power.
and it goes beyond culture, too; the UK and oz are also heading full speed into tyranny; and a lot of the ROW is watching and wanting their piece of the surveillance pie, too.
we have a human issue, here; and like 'rich vs poor', I don't think this will EVER end. the ones in control always seek to keep control; and info is now part of that, to them. they will never ever give this quest up.
great, huh? more wasted time and energy, having to always, continually fend off the bad guys (in this case, ALL our governments and big companies) just to keep things somewhat sane and somewhat old-school normal. damn. what a waste.
and though I don't use it much at all, I got an email from amazon saying that an 'important update' is available for my kindle and I should install it.
of course, i don't trust them so I didn't. not sure what it would do but its not likely it would benefit ME, so unless I can see a reason to install it, I won't.
as long as I leave the radio off, I should be good, I guess. and whatever content is on my unit should stay there since its not really cloud-based when the radio is off.
my lenovo new laptop also had a touchpad that would not work. it was a kernel bug of all things (ps2 driver and such). I had to disable to 'advanced' features and go back to old style ps2 emulation to make my 3 button touchpad work.
lenovo was to blame, though. they changed, radically, how their alps/etc pads work and for a short while they had a nasty style pad with no real buttons and they had to implement it differently; this caused bugs in linux.
then again, even win7 has issues with this trackpad, so it really was lenovo's fault.
as a bay area resident for the past quarter century, and as someone who is born/raised in the US, I call bullshit in your entire statement about h1b being 'used appropriately' in the bay area.
I recently spent time at cisco and also at intel. nothing but indian faces, there. and I'm not talking about super smart people; but ordinary common people, like me and probably you - but THEY get hired and I don't.
don't lie about the bay area. maybe you are new or maybe you simply are so shielded from reality, you don't know how things are for most of us. I hope you are not lying on purpose to serve an agenda...
this is why all the arduinos (nanos and other shield style boards) are moving away from ftdi and onto ch340, pl2303 (not great) or other usb/serial chips.
ch340 has been fine for me, so far. no driver problems, and so far not caring about fakes vs real ones (if there is such a thing for ch340).
ftdi can go fuck themselves. I think I need to send more notices to my corp (who does arduino stuff; at least in some groups) and we should stop patronizing ftdi.
texas is a shithole and anyone living there deserves what they get.
news at 11.
(friends and recruiters keep trying to talk me into moving to tx. I'd rather die first. not kidding; I would never consider living in tx for so many reasons; this is just indicative of how backward the bible belt/south region is. corrupt as can be. if you live there, WHY???)
you've just put in simple words, this complex issue.
simple words are what are needed to explain this to joe sixpack, who really does not yet understand what all the fuss is about re: encryption.
this should be the EFF's (etc) message: "if your house had a super strong door that could not be broken into, and if the government was thinking of asking everyone for a copy of their house keys 'just in case' - would you happily give them a copy of your house key?"
it puts things in simple terms, and most americans would not enjoy the idea of some stranger entering their home at their will, without asking your permission (and respecting your wish). and yet, this is exactly what the gov is asking of us. worse, since searching my home can only find what is there; searching my online info (that I chose to keep non-public) could have many times worse of an affect.
imagine the tv ad; a burglar breaks into your house and walks away with some physical things. the government breaks into your system and the screen shows snippets of all aspects of your life being revealed.
I hope that we can have such tv ads so that people are given the other side of the untold story; re: encryption and the power-grab from the various governments and authorities. we really need to inform people what they stand to risk and lose if we just hand over the keys to the kingdom, so to speak.
I thought of this immediately. france was one of the few modern countries to make encryption illegal for users, for a LONG time.
they dropped that rule.
now they want to go back to the bad old days.
look, france, do we REALLY have to start the old and tired 'france surrenders!' jokes all over again? we're all tired of that old joke, but maybe you citizens need to tell your government that you don't want to go backwards and hide in fear any more.
good luck with that, though; our own people (US) won't do this either and we'll probably follow you down this rathole;(
sad that terrorists can scare us into giving away all our rights and freedoms. this is exactly what they wanted all along! and our own governments are happily playing right into their hands!!!
I could care less what human-A did for his indenting, at least on C code. if the code works and compiles, I can FIX his indentation and not ruin a thing; only make it more readable.
there is no concept of a re-indent or auto-indent (such as found in emacs, for example) for python. you can't do it. because as I posted before about this: there are 2 things and they should never be mixed. one is a cue to the compiler what a block is, and the other is a cue to the HUMAN what a block is. and combining them is what guido fucked up, on.
in C, I can do whatever wild indenting I want and a re-indent can fix it so I can read it again. I got very used to that. code was ROBUST in this way, and humans can mess with the look of it without doing harm. if I move a block from some inline code to a nested routine, it always ALWAYS works. not so in python. in fact, I'm not even sure HOW to move a block from one level of indent to another with perfect safety. its just STUPID!!!! stupid beyond belief to those of us who have been writing code for decades (I'm mid 50's and have been doing software eng work since my teens).
part of me wants to add a feature to the language so I can add braces back again, then preproc the source to remove it as a phase before running the code. I know it won't be accepted by anyone in my company but it would restore sanity to my own python projects, at least.
imagine a source code control system where check-out gets you those braces, you do your edits and each time you save the file to local git or svn (etc) it removes the bad chars and makes it 'real python' again so you can run it. that way you kind of have it both ways and editing, at least, is now more safe.
twice in the first few months of my learning python, I saw someone post code on a web forum that was impossible to know what the intent was; because the spacing was messed up (web forums do this all the time) and this, alone, proved to me how stupid this braceless style of space-sensitive indenting was.
there are 2 things and they should NOT be combined! one is for the compiler to define what a block is. the other is documentation for humans, so we know what the block is.
and yes, they do act differently. I can use white space to tell a HUMAN things but white space is quite a stupid way to talk to a computer.
there's a lot I like about python, but guido is just plain wrong, here, and its frustrating that he won't admit it.
btw, I hate rich assholes who think too much of themselves. hopefully our country does not go full retard (any more than they already have) and elect this chump.
"we've tried and tried, but we can't find any data in there. its not teletype, its not FAX, its not ebcdic or SIXBIT, its not slow-scan tv, its not any kind of modem signal we have seen before. we -think- it could be a teenager flapping his lips between his finger, making some kind of noise, but we still are not sure."
the reason people care is that we see an endless sucking-away of OUR cash (that should be used to better ALL our lives, not just a few.1%-ers) without any use for society.
lets not forget, without society and US, he would never have gotton where he is. he owes us, as does every fucking rich asshole out there who thinks that 'his' money is 100% his and he owes nothing back to the society that enabled him.
the US infrastructure is in shambles. we have no taxes collected from rich folks or rich companies anymore; ALL the burden is placed on middle and poor folks. nothing can get done this way and nothing IS getting done. sewers are in need of upgrades, water ways, transportation, electricity, waste removal - all the things we need every day - there is no money for it because the republicans continue to allow rich folks to skirt the tax laws.
if no money comes back to 'us', then we all suffer.
I find it hard to believe you truly think that money should just get sucked into a rich person's wallet, never to benefit society again. let me guess which political party you belong go....
you may work at google, but I doubt you are privvy to all the uses of data that google engages in. what you see is what you are ALLOWED to see. unless you are in the chosen elite, you'll never know what is really going on (this applies to all large corps; there is a duality in them all and the ones who really know what is going on are the suits and ties, NEVER the engineers. they are fed shit and kept in the dark, as usual)
they may tell you a nice little fib that isn't 100% a lie, but that's not the same as being completely upfront with you (and us).
tl;dr; I doubt you really know as much as you say. are you at the exec level, perhaps? if not, then you only think you know what they use data for.
who the hell has this in their brain that saying 'i don't know' is a BAD thing?
I'd rather have someone admit that they don't know everything than to try to fake it.
90% of the companies have zero clue how to interview. and it shows. the software quality is at an all time low and getting worse every day.
whatever you guys are doing, you are doing it 180degrees wrong. but you'll never admit it because.......you won't ever admit you don't know something!
perhaps I've been doing software for too long, but I'm sick and tired of the bullshit games that companies play during interviews. coding used to be fun and we used to take pride in our work. now, its all about 'velocity' and agile and speed. all the things that are toxic to quality designs and implementations.
speed coding is a sign of youth, and to be honest, I am bored by kids who are at google and think they know everything.
speed is the WORST metric you can use to measure coders and programming skill. in my 35 yrs writing code, I never ONCE had to code while being timed. not a single god damned time. its stupid, it shows that you have no idea what real programming is like and it ends up being an agist test. younger kids, fresh from school are filled with algorithms and nothing else. those of us who have been away from school for decades not only don't care about memorizing algs, but realize that its the dumbest use of greymatter. we realize that anything that is memorizable is also searchable (online or in books) and its a total waste of your brain to store crap there that is easily found in ref material.
google: please just fix your fucking bugs in android and stop trying to show off how 'great' you are. maybe you can fix the year old VPN bug in android 4.4? maybe you can fix other bugs that languish? maybe you can STOP eol'ing things people use and actually support the code for longer than your summer fling.
and for the record, I've never once had to redo an already done linked list library or tree library. total waste of time to reinvent wheels. google bores me with their 'brain teasers'. I don't like to waste time on your so-called 'challenges'. and that goes for any other company that thinks that timed tests are, at all, relevant in software engineering.
no government OR business has proven to us that they can safeguard our info. therefore, I will never willingly give info to any 'authority' that I don't have to, under pain of arrest or actual physical pain.
I could care less what 'good uses' they list. the bad overweighs the good. I safeguard my personal info as best I can and since we get an almost weekly news item about this or that company having a network or computer break-in, the industries have not proven that they can protect the info well enough.
until they can protect it, they do not deserve to collect it.
burn that into your memories, guys. IF YOU CAN'T PROTECT IT, DON'T COLLECT IT!
these days, those are really important concepts to internalize. teach that phrase to others and maybe, eventually, people will think before they hand over info 'just because'.
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you have valid points.
but - wall-o-text is hard to read. some line breaks might help...
re: obama vs bush; its impossible to say what the other would do if things were switched.
its clear that people are affected by what is currently going on. if bush were in office now, its not likely that he would act any differently.
I'll go further; pick your favorite president - ANY of them (past, living, whatever) and would you honestly believe that they would deny the state its *desire* for 'total info awareness'?
its not about a person, anymore. abs power and all that - its true. no one can resist that much power.
and it goes beyond culture, too; the UK and oz are also heading full speed into tyranny; and a lot of the ROW is watching and wanting their piece of the surveillance pie, too.
we have a human issue, here; and like 'rich vs poor', I don't think this will EVER end. the ones in control always seek to keep control; and info is now part of that, to them. they will never ever give this quest up.
great, huh? more wasted time and energy, having to always, continually fend off the bad guys (in this case, ALL our governments and big companies) just to keep things somewhat sane and somewhat old-school normal. damn. what a waste.
and though I don't use it much at all, I got an email from amazon saying that an 'important update' is available for my kindle and I should install it.
of course, i don't trust them so I didn't. not sure what it would do but its not likely it would benefit ME, so unless I can see a reason to install it, I won't.
as long as I leave the radio off, I should be good, I guess. and whatever content is on my unit should stay there since its not really cloud-based when the radio is off.
my lenovo new laptop also had a touchpad that would not work. it was a kernel bug of all things (ps2 driver and such). I had to disable to 'advanced' features and go back to old style ps2 emulation to make my 3 button touchpad work.
lenovo was to blame, though. they changed, radically, how their alps/etc pads work and for a short while they had a nasty style pad with no real buttons and they had to implement it differently; this caused bugs in linux.
then again, even win7 has issues with this trackpad, so it really was lenovo's fault.
100% bullshit.
as a bay area resident for the past quarter century, and as someone who is born/raised in the US, I call bullshit in your entire statement about h1b being 'used appropriately' in the bay area.
I recently spent time at cisco and also at intel. nothing but indian faces, there. and I'm not talking about super smart people; but ordinary common people, like me and probably you - but THEY get hired and I don't.
don't lie about the bay area. maybe you are new or maybe you simply are so shielded from reality, you don't know how things are for most of us. I hope you are not lying on purpose to serve an agenda...
this is why all the arduinos (nanos and other shield style boards) are moving away from ftdi and onto ch340, pl2303 (not great) or other usb/serial chips.
ch340 has been fine for me, so far. no driver problems, and so far not caring about fakes vs real ones (if there is such a thing for ch340).
ftdi can go fuck themselves. I think I need to send more notices to my corp (who does arduino stuff; at least in some groups) and we should stop patronizing ftdi.
texas is a shithole and anyone living there deserves what they get.
news at 11.
(friends and recruiters keep trying to talk me into moving to tx. I'd rather die first. not kidding; I would never consider living in tx for so many reasons; this is just indicative of how backward the bible belt/south region is. corrupt as can be. if you live there, WHY???)
you've just put in simple words, this complex issue.
simple words are what are needed to explain this to joe sixpack, who really does not yet understand what all the fuss is about re: encryption.
this should be the EFF's (etc) message: "if your house had a super strong door that could not be broken into, and if the government was thinking of asking everyone for a copy of their house keys 'just in case' - would you happily give them a copy of your house key?"
it puts things in simple terms, and most americans would not enjoy the idea of some stranger entering their home at their will, without asking your permission (and respecting your wish). and yet, this is exactly what the gov is asking of us. worse, since searching my home can only find what is there; searching my online info (that I chose to keep non-public) could have many times worse of an affect.
imagine the tv ad; a burglar breaks into your house and walks away with some physical things. the government breaks into your system and the screen shows snippets of all aspects of your life being revealed.
I hope that we can have such tv ads so that people are given the other side of the untold story; re: encryption and the power-grab from the various governments and authorities. we really need to inform people what they stand to risk and lose if we just hand over the keys to the kingdom, so to speak.
I thought of this immediately. france was one of the few modern countries to make encryption illegal for users, for a LONG time.
they dropped that rule.
now they want to go back to the bad old days.
look, france, do we REALLY have to start the old and tired 'france surrenders!' jokes all over again? we're all tired of that old joke, but maybe you citizens need to tell your government that you don't want to go backwards and hide in fear any more.
good luck with that, though; our own people (US) won't do this either and we'll probably follow you down this rathole ;(
sad that terrorists can scare us into giving away all our rights and freedoms. this is exactly what they wanted all along! and our own governments are happily playing right into their hands!!!
wake me up when they ported the trs80 version of hunt the wumpus.
"oops, bumped a reset button. the ip address has moved."
not all incoming connections, but all INITIAL incoming connections.
stateful replies are allowed, of course.
I have SchrÃdinger's fridge.
I dare not open mine to check, for obvious reasons.
a controller is not a multi-user time-sharing computer and vice-versa.
next question, please?
also, 100% this.
I could care less what human-A did for his indenting, at least on C code. if the code works and compiles, I can FIX his indentation and not ruin a thing; only make it more readable.
there is no concept of a re-indent or auto-indent (such as found in emacs, for example) for python. you can't do it. because as I posted before about this: there are 2 things and they should never be mixed. one is a cue to the compiler what a block is, and the other is a cue to the HUMAN what a block is. and combining them is what guido fucked up, on.
in C, I can do whatever wild indenting I want and a re-indent can fix it so I can read it again. I got very used to that. code was ROBUST in this way, and humans can mess with the look of it without doing harm. if I move a block from some inline code to a nested routine, it always ALWAYS works. not so in python. in fact, I'm not even sure HOW to move a block from one level of indent to another with perfect safety. its just STUPID!!!! stupid beyond belief to those of us who have been writing code for decades (I'm mid 50's and have been doing software eng work since my teens).
part of me wants to add a feature to the language so I can add braces back again, then preproc the source to remove it as a phase before running the code. I know it won't be accepted by anyone in my company but it would restore sanity to my own python projects, at least.
imagine a source code control system where check-out gets you those braces, you do your edits and each time you save the file to local git or svn (etc) it removes the bad chars and makes it 'real python' again so you can run it. that way you kind of have it both ways and editing, at least, is now more safe.
100% this!
twice in the first few months of my learning python, I saw someone post code on a web forum that was impossible to know what the intent was; because the spacing was messed up (web forums do this all the time) and this, alone, proved to me how stupid this braceless style of space-sensitive indenting was.
there are 2 things and they should NOT be combined! one is for the compiler to define what a block is. the other is documentation for humans, so we know what the block is.
and yes, they do act differently. I can use white space to tell a HUMAN things but white space is quite a stupid way to talk to a computer.
there's a lot I like about python, but guido is just plain wrong, here, and its frustrating that he won't admit it.
http://boingboing.net/2015/07/...
btw, I hate rich assholes who think too much of themselves. hopefully our country does not go full retard (any more than they already have) and elect this chump.
"I got a lot of problems with you ferric oxide folks; and you're going to hear about it!"
blank page. nothing but java-crap-script. sigh.
"we've tried and tried, but we can't find any data in there. its not teletype, its not FAX, its not ebcdic or SIXBIT, its not slow-scan tv, its not any kind of modem signal we have seen before. we -think- it could be a teenager flapping his lips between his finger, making some kind of noise, but we still are not sure."
the reason people care is that we see an endless sucking-away of OUR cash (that should be used to better ALL our lives, not just a few .1%-ers) without any use for society.
lets not forget, without society and US, he would never have gotton where he is. he owes us, as does every fucking rich asshole out there who thinks that 'his' money is 100% his and he owes nothing back to the society that enabled him.
the US infrastructure is in shambles. we have no taxes collected from rich folks or rich companies anymore; ALL the burden is placed on middle and poor folks. nothing can get done this way and nothing IS getting done. sewers are in need of upgrades, water ways, transportation, electricity, waste removal - all the things we need every day - there is no money for it because the republicans continue to allow rich folks to skirt the tax laws.
if no money comes back to 'us', then we all suffer.
I find it hard to believe you truly think that money should just get sucked into a rich person's wallet, never to benefit society again. let me guess which political party you belong go....
you may work at google, but I doubt you are privvy to all the uses of data that google engages in. what you see is what you are ALLOWED to see. unless you are in the chosen elite, you'll never know what is really going on (this applies to all large corps; there is a duality in them all and the ones who really know what is going on are the suits and ties, NEVER the engineers. they are fed shit and kept in the dark, as usual)
they may tell you a nice little fib that isn't 100% a lie, but that's not the same as being completely upfront with you (and us).
tl;dr; I doubt you really know as much as you say. are you at the exec level, perhaps? if not, then you only think you know what they use data for.
btw, how is the koolaid there? tasty?
well, "bless your heart"
who the hell has this in their brain that saying 'i don't know' is a BAD thing?
I'd rather have someone admit that they don't know everything than to try to fake it.
90% of the companies have zero clue how to interview. and it shows. the software quality is at an all time low and getting worse every day.
whatever you guys are doing, you are doing it 180degrees wrong. but you'll never admit it because .... ...you won't ever admit you don't know something!
perhaps I've been doing software for too long, but I'm sick and tired of the bullshit games that companies play during interviews. coding used to be fun and we used to take pride in our work. now, its all about 'velocity' and agile and speed. all the things that are toxic to quality designs and implementations.
speed coding is a sign of youth, and to be honest, I am bored by kids who are at google and think they know everything.
speed is the WORST metric you can use to measure coders and programming skill. in my 35 yrs writing code, I never ONCE had to code while being timed. not a single god damned time. its stupid, it shows that you have no idea what real programming is like and it ends up being an agist test. younger kids, fresh from school are filled with algorithms and nothing else. those of us who have been away from school for decades not only don't care about memorizing algs, but realize that its the dumbest use of greymatter. we realize that anything that is memorizable is also searchable (online or in books) and its a total waste of your brain to store crap there that is easily found in ref material.
google: please just fix your fucking bugs in android and stop trying to show off how 'great' you are. maybe you can fix the year old VPN bug in android 4.4? maybe you can fix other bugs that languish? maybe you can STOP eol'ing things people use and actually support the code for longer than your summer fling.
and for the record, I've never once had to redo an already done linked list library or tree library. total waste of time to reinvent wheels. google bores me with their 'brain teasers'. I don't like to waste time on your so-called 'challenges'. and that goes for any other company that thinks that timed tests are, at all, relevant in software engineering.
"if you can't protect it, don't collect it"
no government OR business has proven to us that they can safeguard our info. therefore, I will never willingly give info to any 'authority' that I don't have to, under pain of arrest or actual physical pain.
I could care less what 'good uses' they list. the bad overweighs the good. I safeguard my personal info as best I can and since we get an almost weekly news item about this or that company having a network or computer break-in, the industries have not proven that they can protect the info well enough.
until they can protect it, they do not deserve to collect it.
burn that into your memories, guys. IF YOU CAN'T PROTECT IT, DON'T COLLECT IT!
these days, those are really important concepts to internalize. teach that phrase to others and maybe, eventually, people will think before they hand over info 'just because'.