I recall hearing that it had to be higher doses - as much as 3000mg/day - to see an effect.
Of course, 3000mg/day has been labelled dangerous to your health. The amounts that have been labelled safe by the FDA and drug companies are so far below, that even if there was an effect you wouldn't see it.
I'm tired of bullshit studies like this.
Disclaimer: I don't believe in Ginkgo - but I'm really tired of these bullshit studies that get cited as proof until the end of time. Want to do it properly to actually dispute the claims? Try it on people aged 30-50 with doses over 2000mg.
I bet there's a study that tiny amounts of radiation are good for you. Of course, when you up the dose, that completely flips around.
considering your choice in monitor likely has as much impact on your final power bill as your ARM/Atom choice.
Not likely. LED backlit LCDs can consume well under a watt. OLED doesn't consume much juice either. These 10.1 inch LCDs probably consume a few more watts - perhaps 2-5 watts? I'm not sure if they're LED backlit.
So if this arm chipset uses 250mw at idle, and 1.5 watts during use, how many times more efficient is that than an Atom? 4x? 10x?
Not to mention SSD vs HDD... I'm sure all these changes will have a big impact.
4096 byte sectors are fine. It's nice that we'll get roughly 10% more usable space for no cost.
But I think it'd be nice if when I open a 4KiB file it said 4KiB. According to metric prefixes accepted in virtually every other field, 4096 bytes is 4.1KB (or 4.096KB to be exact) Being "digital" does not give the right to use the wrong prefixes and cause confusion.
It's also worth noting that this is Microsoft's fault. Other OS's are doing it properly. Microsoft only does it properly when it benefits them. HDD manufacturers have faced numerous lawsuits simply because Microsoft is using the wrong prefix, so people feel cheated out of space. And the issue will only get worse... Every time we jump from one incorrect prefix to another.
When you buy a 1500,000,000,000 byte HDD (which includes free error checking bits, so really has over 1650,000,000,000 bytes - 1.5TB usable), Windows reports the capacity as 1.36TB (incorrect) - not 1.36TiB. (correct)
Can't wait for the new round of lawsuits when we hit petabytes - 1125,899,906,842,624 bytes, a 12.6% discrepancy. And the ridiculousness of this is, it's not even a real issue.
Why aren't we suing SSD manufacturers? They often give us less bytes than advertised in both metric and incorrect metric.
Does nobody care about filesystem overhead? We lose as much as 20% of our disk capacity to shitty filesystems. That's way more than the Metric debate.
What about disk performance? It's harder to measure, but doesn't I/O performance matter more than capacity? Sun proved you can design a FS that doesn't lose significant performance or require defragmenting - ZFS. Microsoft with their NTFS is probably costing us 30% I/O performance. Wouldn't it be nice to have Reiser4 available for servers or computers with UPS's?
As long as we remain fixated on something that isn't an actual issue, we'll never correct the ones that are.
One thing to think about is what programming projects he's interested in doing, and make sure he's set up for success. A lot of kids that age want to program games, but programming a real-time video game requires a *lot* of skills. Whatever project he wants to do, make sure you have a combination of OS, development environment, and libraries that will work.
This is a very good point, which is why I recommend MMF. (or even TGF) I started with it - it made creating games quite simple. At the same time I learned javascript which helped for webpages. Then one day I tried making a game in javascript. The game worked, but ran like shit, because Chrome didn't exist at the time.:P Shortly after that I started learning Java/C. I settled on Java, because of its strictness. Javascript is very lax, so although the syntax looks like C, you can't do any of the same stuff in actual C. And C has an extra symbol for every single command. Java kept it simpler. (just dots, no & * **:: -> . etc.)
Looking back, I'd probably go with Python this time around. All my java code going back years (before looking into Python) matches Python indentation.
Switch to a VPS. If I remember right, all the boxes are identical hardware, so when one breaks your VPS is migrated to a new server and back up in minutes.
I hope you never get cancer. If you finally go to the doctor when you fell like you on death's door, it will be too late. If caught early enough, most cancers are easily treatable.
Yes, but 95% of the time the Doctor tells you it's just a mole. Even if 10% of the time it's cancer.
People need to be more aware of their bodies. Started feeling shitty a year ago? Got strange moles popping up? You need to get them looked at - and be extremely pushy if your Doctor is apathetic.
My mother got warned by her Chiropractor that her moles looked cancerous. She went to her doctor and bullied him into referring to a specialist. Two malignant melanomas later - thankfully cut out in time - she seems to be doing okay.
Be aware of your body and how you feel, and be aware that people are not infallible. Always get a second or third opinion if something worries you.
P.S. BC (Canada) healthcare blows. 5 months to get malignant melanomas removed. Screw you Ontario, with your 1 week wait times.
Well lets see... allergies in the western world are on the rise, and people here tend to rely on medicine to solve sicknesses rather than their immune systems.
I recall hearing that the appendix was a safe haven for some good bacteria. After a purge from antibiotics, it replenishes your gut with the good stuff. Complete speculation, but this decline might leave us with more restricted diets and weaker immune systems in a couple generations.
funny how asus "invented" the netbook right after the OLPC pricepoint was set.
It takes a long time to design such hardware. I'd bet on at least 6 months.
Could it be that selling commodity computers for a small margin was less of an "invention" and more of a reaction to competition?
Two flaws in your argument. First, the OLPC was never direct competition. At the time it used processors about half the speed, and the gap has stayed approximately the same since then.
Second, Asus makes a lot off their netbooks. A best guess at manufacturing costs is $150-$200. Then Asus ships them to North America and sells them for $350-$500.
The original 7 inch EEEs had a sub-$90 manufacturing cost around 8 months ago. I caught several stores offering sales on new ones for $99. Since then a small company has started making similar netbooks for the same price.
Conclusion: There's huge profit margins on these things. That's quite a different tale from the OLPC.
I thought Asus invented the "Netbook"? Or was that Psion?
The price of the OLPC was what got me. I couldn't afford $400 + S&H to get one. Netbooks are a lot cheaper than that... I've seen many refurb ones for $150.
In 1999, we used HTML, not AJAX, and our monitors were still 1024x768. "Streaming video" was at best 15fps and extremely blocky at 320x24.
Just wanted to point something out - AJAX makes stuff more efficient. Well, unless the dev uses a couple 1MB.js libs... and only uses a single method from each. @_@
I wrote an HTML5 video streamer with under 2KB of javascript. Playlist on the right and everything. Since then I've moved to bigger libs coded by other people, because I want compatibility with every browser with no effort.
Unlike PHP, ASP.net, perl, etc., AJAX doesn't really hit the server hard. As long as your computer is up to the job, you could say AJAX speeds things up while server-side languages slow them down.
A great example of the latter is ASUS' driver server. Good luck getting anything over 10KBps from there. (Actually, good luck getting even 10KBps.)
Download from China.
Actually, the last time I went to Asus.com to download something, the Global download location wanted to install a crappy plugin. If I remember right the China server - which happens to be the fastest one - is the only one that gives you a good old zip file.
A programmers job is to take an idea and express it in a way a computer can understand. All we DO is express ourselves, if you aren't good at expressing yourself, you aren't a good programmer.
You sound more like a business programmer than other kinds. You're given requirements and code a solution, right? Definitely requires superior communication skills.
I prefer to solve technical challenges. Like giving me 57MB of PNG files and wanting them losslessly compressed into 2.5MB. That was fun.;)
Cryptographic ICs can be rigged to self-destruct when somebody opens the package. Given a secure cryptographic chip, hardware security can be assembled on top of it. I'm not willing
Cost?:P
That might just be a factor in security being tacked on as an afterthought. Since people are incredibly shortsighted about everything, the cost here and now is what matters.
So if eating healthy might keep me alive 40 years longer... screw it, cheeseburger! I'll die happy at 65!
And if I have a chance to reduce pollution created at a power plant, so people have reduced medical costs and no environmental cleanup is needed later... screw it, money! $$$
And if face the possibility of getting a girl pregnant because I have no condom... screw it (her), sex!
Yeah, people are stupid shortsighted fools. =P It's in our nature. We're never going to have totally secure platforms. Just secure *enough*.
That's a benefit of being Canadian. Perhaps a lawyer from the US could chime in as to whether it's the same down there? Doesn't sound like it is. Another perk from up here - loser pays the court costs.;) (within reason)
In the HTPC/Media center segment: the Atom + Nvidia ION platform was great, low-power/low-performance CPU with a GPU that does all the video decoding and OpenGL. Now you get an Intel GPU that is *still* not able to do full video-pipeline accelerated GPU decoding. Better get yourself an old Atom, or hopefully in the future a Via Nano + decent GPU.
Atom N330 + Ion looks very nice for a netbook. Beefy enough to be a primary computer if your life demands constant travel.
In the Netbook segment: with the performance of the original Atom being nothing but abysmal unless you only use Notepad, you really want a Celeron ULV anyway. It's a much better design, in a whole different performance class than the Atom, and you don't get any of the stupid restrictions Intel puts on using the Atom.
But unless you get an expensive CULV, you don't get the GPU horsepower. GMA4500 blows.
I will appreciate this N450 if it kicks netbooks under $200-$250 new.
It's the GMA500 line. I know because I read quite a bit about PowerVR and their SGX cores employed in ARM SoCs that TI/Samsung are putting in cellphones. Intel licensed PowerVR's designs and stuck them into their stuff. Somewhere along the line they tacked on DirectX support. PowerVR's GPUs only natively support OpenGL 2.0 and OpenGL ES 2.0/1.1. Because the drivers are new (unlike GMA950 and PowerVR SGX) they're also shit.
I agree. A search for published science (from university library resources) that would indicate a connection between cell phone EMR and brain tumors/cancer yielded NO DATA OR ARTICLES for the argument.
That's because the studies are stupid.
I remember reading a study saying that cancer rates were identical in a town with tons of nasty pollution spewing pulp mills.
However, everyone I know that used to live in that town(and moved away because of the stench) died of cancer in their 50's or 60's. Everyone I know that knows people from there also knows people that died of cancer. These people that moved away bump up the cancer rates in other locations, and lower it there, because they no longer live there.
Same thing with cell phones. If you've always used a cellphone, you've had constant exposure, which raises your odds of random mutations and ultimately brain cancer. Also keep in mind the power output of the cell. Older cellphones had badass transmitters and huge antenna on them, so in the past the odds of them causing cancer was quite high. (though still hard to prove)
Also, it's not rocket science. My opinion is cellphones cause cancer... as does getting too much sunlight, too little sunlight, going on a plane, eating foods you can't properly digest, lacking trace minerals(these are important for stuff like proper cell duplication), etc.
Really, there isn't much you can do that doesn't cause cancer. The question is, do cellphones affect it significantly? Smoking raises the odds of getting lung cancer hugely. If you don't die of something else, you'll get lung cancer eventually. Is a cellphone a big risk? That's for you to decide.
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That's just Western prejudice
Actually, it is.
I recall hearing that it had to be higher doses - as much as 3000mg/day - to see an effect.
Of course, 3000mg/day has been labelled dangerous to your health. The amounts that have been labelled safe by the FDA and drug companies are so far below, that even if there was an effect you wouldn't see it.
I'm tired of bullshit studies like this.
Disclaimer: I don't believe in Ginkgo - but I'm really tired of these bullshit studies that get cited as proof until the end of time. Want to do it properly to actually dispute the claims? Try it on people aged 30-50 with doses over 2000mg.
I bet there's a study that tiny amounts of radiation are good for you. Of course, when you up the dose, that completely flips around.
There are tons of different ways to have fun playing in reality. Maybe you're just a n00b.
I agree. Sex is way more fun in reality. In videogames, it's so unfulfilling that there's no point putting it in.
When a game has a sex scene I usually wonder why they wasted money putting it in.
considering your choice in monitor likely has as much impact on your final power bill as your ARM/Atom choice.
Not likely. LED backlit LCDs can consume well under a watt. OLED doesn't consume much juice either. These 10.1 inch LCDs probably consume a few more watts - perhaps 2-5 watts? I'm not sure if they're LED backlit.
So if this arm chipset uses 250mw at idle, and 1.5 watts during use, how many times more efficient is that than an Atom? 4x? 10x?
Not to mention SSD vs HDD... I'm sure all these changes will have a big impact.
4096 byte sectors are fine. It's nice that we'll get roughly 10% more usable space for no cost.
But I think it'd be nice if when I open a 4KiB file it said 4KiB. According to metric prefixes accepted in virtually every other field, 4096 bytes is 4.1KB (or 4.096KB to be exact) Being "digital" does not give the right to use the wrong prefixes and cause confusion.
It's also worth noting that this is Microsoft's fault. Other OS's are doing it properly. Microsoft only does it properly when it benefits them. HDD manufacturers have faced numerous lawsuits simply because Microsoft is using the wrong prefix, so people feel cheated out of space. And the issue will only get worse... Every time we jump from one incorrect prefix to another.
1024 bytes - 1KiB - 2.4% discrepancy.
1048,576 bytes - 1MiB - 4.85% discrepancy
1073,741,824 bytes - GiB - 7.37% discrepancy
1099,511,627,776 bytes - 1TiB - 9.95% discrepancy
When you buy a 1500,000,000,000 byte HDD (which includes free error checking bits, so really has over 1650,000,000,000 bytes - 1.5TB usable), Windows reports the capacity as 1.36TB (incorrect) - not 1.36TiB. (correct)
Can't wait for the new round of lawsuits when we hit petabytes - 1125,899,906,842,624 bytes, a 12.6% discrepancy. And the ridiculousness of this is, it's not even a real issue.
Why aren't we suing SSD manufacturers? They often give us less bytes than advertised in both metric and incorrect metric.
Does nobody care about filesystem overhead? We lose as much as 20% of our disk capacity to shitty filesystems. That's way more than the Metric debate.
What about disk performance? It's harder to measure, but doesn't I/O performance matter more than capacity? Sun proved you can design a FS that doesn't lose significant performance or require defragmenting - ZFS. Microsoft with their NTFS is probably costing us 30% I/O performance. Wouldn't it be nice to have Reiser4 available for servers or computers with UPS's?
As long as we remain fixated on something that isn't an actual issue, we'll never correct the ones that are.
It has a lot of games. Compatible with hundreds, it appears.
http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
But installing them is still round-about.
One thing to think about is what programming projects he's interested in doing, and make sure he's set up for success. A lot of kids that age want to program games, but programming a real-time video game requires a *lot* of skills. Whatever project he wants to do, make sure you have a combination of OS, development environment, and libraries that will work.
This is a very good point, which is why I recommend MMF. (or even TGF) I started with it - it made creating games quite simple. At the same time I learned javascript which helped for webpages. Then one day I tried making a game in javascript. The game worked, but ran like shit, because Chrome didn't exist at the time. :P Shortly after that I started learning Java/C. I settled on Java, because of its strictness. Javascript is very lax, so although the syntax looks like C, you can't do any of the same stuff in actual C. And C has an extra symbol for every single command. Java kept it simpler. (just dots, no & * ** :: -> . etc.)
Looking back, I'd probably go with Python this time around. All my java code going back years (before looking into Python) matches Python indentation.
Switch to a VPS. If I remember right, all the boxes are identical hardware, so when one breaks your VPS is migrated to a new server and back up in minutes.
Virtualization! Got to be good for something!
I hope you never get cancer. If you finally go to the doctor when you fell like you on death's door, it will be too late. If caught early enough, most cancers are easily treatable.
Yes, but 95% of the time the Doctor tells you it's just a mole. Even if 10% of the time it's cancer.
People need to be more aware of their bodies. Started feeling shitty a year ago? Got strange moles popping up? You need to get them looked at - and be extremely pushy if your Doctor is apathetic.
My mother got warned by her Chiropractor that her moles looked cancerous. She went to her doctor and bullied him into referring to a specialist. Two malignant melanomas later - thankfully cut out in time - she seems to be doing okay.
Be aware of your body and how you feel, and be aware that people are not infallible. Always get a second or third opinion if something worries you.
P.S. BC (Canada) healthcare blows. 5 months to get malignant melanomas removed. Screw you Ontario, with your 1 week wait times.
Well lets see... allergies in the western world are on the rise, and people here tend to rely on medicine to solve sicknesses rather than their immune systems.
I recall hearing that the appendix was a safe haven for some good bacteria. After a purge from antibiotics, it replenishes your gut with the good stuff. Complete speculation, but this decline might leave us with more restricted diets and weaker immune systems in a couple generations.
funny how asus "invented" the netbook right after the OLPC pricepoint was set.
It takes a long time to design such hardware. I'd bet on at least 6 months.
Could it be that selling commodity computers for a small margin was less of an "invention" and more of a reaction to competition?
Two flaws in your argument. First, the OLPC was never direct competition. At the time it used processors about half the speed, and the gap has stayed approximately the same since then.
Second, Asus makes a lot off their netbooks. A best guess at manufacturing costs is $150-$200. Then Asus ships them to North America and sells them for $350-$500.
The original 7 inch EEEs had a sub-$90 manufacturing cost around 8 months ago. I caught several stores offering sales on new ones for $99. Since then a small company has started making similar netbooks for the same price.
Conclusion: There's huge profit margins on these things. That's quite a different tale from the OLPC.
I thought Asus invented the "Netbook"? Or was that Psion?
The price of the OLPC was what got me. I couldn't afford $400 + S&H to get one. Netbooks are a lot cheaper than that... I've seen many refurb ones for $150.
In my experience video was usually 160x120. ;)
Really, really bad.
In 1999, we used HTML, not AJAX, and our monitors were still 1024x768. "Streaming video" was at best 15fps and extremely blocky at 320x24.
Just wanted to point something out - AJAX makes stuff more efficient. Well, unless the dev uses a couple 1MB .js libs... and only uses a single method from each. @_@
I wrote an HTML5 video streamer with under 2KB of javascript. Playlist on the right and everything. Since then I've moved to bigger libs coded by other people, because I want compatibility with every browser with no effort.
Unlike PHP, ASP.net, perl, etc., AJAX doesn't really hit the server hard. As long as your computer is up to the job, you could say AJAX speeds things up while server-side languages slow them down.
A great example of the latter is ASUS' driver server. Good luck getting anything over 10KBps from there. (Actually, good luck getting even 10KBps.)
Download from China.
Actually, the last time I went to Asus.com to download something, the Global download location wanted to install a crappy plugin. If I remember right the China server - which happens to be the fastest one - is the only one that gives you a good old zip file.
Don't you mean the Gillette Omega Fusion Power Stealth Extreme Plus 5000 with Active Blade Technology?
A programmers job is to take an idea and express it in a way a computer can understand. All we DO is express ourselves, if you aren't good at expressing yourself, you aren't a good programmer.
You sound more like a business programmer than other kinds. You're given requirements and code a solution, right? Definitely requires superior communication skills.
I prefer to solve technical challenges. Like giving me 57MB of PNG files and wanting them losslessly compressed into 2.5MB. That was fun. ;)
NewEgg in their wildest dreams isn't 1% as big as Target...
It's too bad newegg is private. I'd love to dispute that 1% figure.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=Newegg+Target
If there's any research, it's probably buried. Cellphones are a multi-billion dollar industry - quarterly - for many, many companies.
Use your head. I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. I told you to make your own decision.
Cryptographic ICs can be rigged to self-destruct when somebody opens the package. Given a secure cryptographic chip, hardware security can be assembled on top of it. I'm not willing
Cost? :P
That might just be a factor in security being tacked on as an afterthought. Since people are incredibly shortsighted about everything, the cost here and now is what matters.
So if eating healthy might keep me alive 40 years longer... screw it, cheeseburger! I'll die happy at 65!
And if I have a chance to reduce pollution created at a power plant, so people have reduced medical costs and no environmental cleanup is needed later... screw it, money! $$$
And if face the possibility of getting a girl pregnant because I have no condom... screw it (her), sex!
Yeah, people are stupid shortsighted fools. =P It's in our nature. We're never going to have totally secure platforms. Just secure *enough*.
That's a benefit of being Canadian. Perhaps a lawyer from the US could chime in as to whether it's the same down there? Doesn't sound like it is. Another perk from up here - loser pays the court costs. ;) (within reason)
I must confess - I'm new to the scene. I only looked into it when WGA started complaining on my legit copy.
In the HTPC/Media center segment: the Atom + Nvidia ION platform was great, low-power/low-performance CPU with a GPU that does all the video decoding and OpenGL. Now you get an Intel GPU that is *still* not able to do full video-pipeline accelerated GPU decoding. Better get yourself an old Atom, or hopefully in the future a Via Nano + decent GPU.
Atom N330 + Ion looks very nice for a netbook. Beefy enough to be a primary computer if your life demands constant travel.
In the Netbook segment: with the performance of the original Atom being nothing but abysmal unless you only use Notepad, you really want a Celeron ULV anyway. It's a much better design, in a whole different performance class than the Atom, and you don't get any of the stupid restrictions Intel puts on using the Atom.
But unless you get an expensive CULV, you don't get the GPU horsepower. GMA4500 blows.
I will appreciate this N450 if it kicks netbooks under $200-$250 new.
Adobe hates Linux as much as they hate Mac OS.
They also hate Windows. Youtube seems to lock up for ~0.5 seconds every 12-15 seconds, on my computer.
And yet if I download the video and play it in MPC-HC, it runs beautifully... with 5% CPU usage.
It's the GMA500 line. I know because I read quite a bit about PowerVR and their SGX cores employed in ARM SoCs that TI/Samsung are putting in cellphones. Intel licensed PowerVR's designs and stuck them into their stuff. Somewhere along the line they tacked on DirectX support. PowerVR's GPUs only natively support OpenGL 2.0 and OpenGL ES 2.0/1.1. Because the drivers are new (unlike GMA950 and PowerVR SGX) they're also shit.
I agree. A search for published science (from university library resources) that would indicate a connection between cell phone EMR and brain tumors/cancer yielded NO DATA OR ARTICLES for the argument.
That's because the studies are stupid.
I remember reading a study saying that cancer rates were identical in a town with tons of nasty pollution spewing pulp mills.
However, everyone I know that used to live in that town(and moved away because of the stench) died of cancer in their 50's or 60's. Everyone I know that knows people from there also knows people that died of cancer. These people that moved away bump up the cancer rates in other locations, and lower it there, because they no longer live there.
Same thing with cell phones. If you've always used a cellphone, you've had constant exposure, which raises your odds of random mutations and ultimately brain cancer. Also keep in mind the power output of the cell. Older cellphones had badass transmitters and huge antenna on them, so in the past the odds of them causing cancer was quite high. (though still hard to prove)
Also, it's not rocket science. My opinion is cellphones cause cancer... as does getting too much sunlight, too little sunlight, going on a plane, eating foods you can't properly digest, lacking trace minerals(these are important for stuff like proper cell duplication), etc.
Really, there isn't much you can do that doesn't cause cancer. The question is, do cellphones affect it significantly? Smoking raises the odds of getting lung cancer hugely. If you don't die of something else, you'll get lung cancer eventually. Is a cellphone a big risk? That's for you to decide.