Really? They show shit like that on the news and in the newspapers where you live? The pictures are of late-stage abortions or miscarriages and show bloody, deformed, dead babies. All the while claiming to be photographs of early-term abortions. No news network or newspaper I've ever seen shows shit like that.
The pictures of late term abortions were claimed to be late term abortions when I looked at the site.
It's not a generalisation. Look at creationism, and it can be seen that, by definition, creationism is throwing out the evidence and inserting Biblical dogma instead.
Having studied BOTH sides quite carefully, it is re-interpreting the same evidence using different dogma. Conventional Western science has deepl entrenched dogma of it's own.
I don't know, I'd be pretty impressed with a scientist that could describe mathematically how the universe was created in 7 days. Even more so if he could reproduce the results in a lab.
I'd be pretty impressed if ANY SCIENTIST could reproduce the beginnings of the universe in a lab! Even a Star or a small planet would be pretty neat!
The problem is that some creationists look at the data, throw it out completely and then make up shit. That's not the scientific method leading to different conclusions, that's a conclusion looking for a way to reach it.
There. Fixed that for you. Generalising like that never does an argument any good.;)
Same as mainstream science really. A couple of bad roses in every bunch.
A "science" degree in creationism certainly isn't a degree in science. There is no way I would ever hire anyone with such a degree. If anything, I would see them as potentially being very disruptive in the workplace.
Why not? Same facts and figures coming out of the research done. Same methods. Just a different
set of biases used in interpreting the data. At least Creationists acknowledge their bias. Other scientists just call their 'theories' to be 'fact'.
Didn't Georgia kinda bypass Cheques etc and just go straight to electronic banking? That was a lot of the attack. Banks. The country could have been completely crippled.
Also, the anti-abortion website they blocked was because it was shock photos, kind of like goatse but with dead cut-up babies. If you don't want them to censor that, but you're okay with them censoring other things, than you are just a fucking hypocrite.
Gory pictures are on the news, in our newspapers, in the films people watch etc. Pornography is generally held to be in a different category altogether. I support the anti-abortion site as they show one side of a contentious issue. That stifles public debate. That, in turn, stifles democracy. No hypocracy involved.
Why would you want opt-out, instead of opt-in? I don't particularly like the idea of having to go to an ISP and identifying myself directly as either a subversive or a pervert.
People seem to deal with with ordering the porn channels on cable ok. What's the difference?
I must admit that I was one of the few supporting the blacklist, when all they said they'd block was porn. In the original proposal users could 'opt out' of the automatic censorship by contacting their ISP. Families can cruise the web with more confidence and those who want porn can get it easily. No probs.
When they put the anti-abortion site on the blacklist they made an enemy of me. That's political. That's an attempt to stifle public debate. Public debate is the basis of democracy. The current Labour government is the most pro abortion government we've ever had in Australia with a number of 'Emily's List' MP's to boot.
Guess I'd better not annoy anyone in that department too much though or those hairy arm-pitted lesbian feminist civil 'servants' will block my business website as well!
The latest version of OpenOffice has cleaned up a lot of things and added features. A test with a couple of 'switched on' students could be useful. Switching the whole lab over at once could be a bit of a disaster as there are some differences in the way OpenOffice does things.
[Quickly pulls numbers out of thin air] I strongly suspect that the number of people who need features present in Office 2007 but not in OOo 3.x is a lot less than the number of people locked into WIndows because of Quickbooks.
Hmm. I have managed Quickbooks on Wine in Linux. MYOB as well. Was for a new immigrant studying Accounting.
There's a simple reason many people need MS Office: compatibility. When you submit an article to a scientific journal, or a federal grant application commitee, or to a literary journal, or a fiction magazine, or a publisher or any sort, they want it as an MS Word document with specific formatting. Yes, that's not in every field, but it's in enough of them.
You don't know anything about Openoffice, do you? It can open MS formats and save in them. Has done for years. I've set up a stack of disadvantaged students with Linux and OpenOffice and I have never had a complaint about OpenOffice. Ever.
It's this easy. Just go into Preferences and set the standard formats to the MS ones. Easy.
And people who are writing essays, and need to submit them, correctly formatted, to a professional publication that requires submission in MS Word format.
However some essays need submitting in MS Word format. I've found OpenOffice to be up to the task. Also, just out of interest, what kind of shonky printer uses MS Word format for submissions? Way too dodgy. MS Word can't even preserve formatting between slightly different versions of their own software! Even the same version on two different machines (perhaps slightly different configurations) can stuff up your document. No. Post-script or PDF for professional publications. NOT MS Word.
For those people who just can't get the hang of using anything else, well, maybe. For those with an IQ over 100, why?
If OpenOffice could get me through 4yrs of degree level study and produce essays with content not only in 3 different languages, but 3 different scripts (alphabets) - one of them right-to-left, who needs the expense and general nuisance of Microsoft Office?
In Victoria, Australia we get to choose both our suppliers for electricity, gas, local phone, international calls from a landline, etc. The upshot of it is that a lot of people don't know who their suppliers are, who is billing them or who to call when things go down.
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Ummm, how will bachelors know the clean ones from the dirty ones if they don't stink?
I always used to find myself coming back to 42 as well. Nothing strange there I guess. It was the number of my house...
Really? They show shit like that on the news and in the newspapers where you live? The pictures are of late-stage abortions or miscarriages and show bloody, deformed, dead babies. All the while claiming to be photographs of early-term abortions. No news network or newspaper I've ever seen shows shit like that.
The pictures of late term abortions were claimed to be late term abortions when I looked at the site.
If I had a cigar, I'd give it to you.
Is that a Bill Clinton quote?
According to the court case, he'd offer his "cigar" to just about anyone...
It's not a generalisation. Look at creationism, and it can be seen that, by definition, creationism is throwing out the evidence and inserting Biblical dogma instead.
Having studied BOTH sides quite carefully, it is re-interpreting the same evidence using different dogma. Conventional Western science has deepl entrenched dogma of it's own.
I don't know, I'd be pretty impressed with a scientist that could describe mathematically how the universe was created in 7 days. Even more so if he could reproduce the results in a lab.
I'd be pretty impressed if ANY SCIENTIST could reproduce the beginnings of the universe in a lab! Even a Star or a small planet would be pretty neat!
The problem is that some creationists look at the data, throw it out completely and then make up shit. That's not the scientific method leading to different conclusions, that's a conclusion looking for a way to reach it.
There. Fixed that for you. Generalising like that never does an argument any good.;)
Same as mainstream science really. A couple of bad roses in every bunch.
A "science" degree in creationism certainly isn't a degree in science. There is no way I would ever hire anyone with such a degree. If anything, I would see them as potentially being very disruptive in the workplace.
Why not? Same facts and figures coming out of the research done. Same methods. Just a different set of biases used in interpreting the data. At least Creationists acknowledge their bias. Other scientists just call their 'theories' to be 'fact'.
Didn't Georgia kinda bypass Cheques etc and just go straight to electronic banking? That was a lot of the attack. Banks. The country could have been completely crippled.
Perhaps the opt-out would be as simple as an email?
Also, the anti-abortion website they blocked was because it was shock photos, kind of like goatse but with dead cut-up babies. If you don't want them to censor that, but you're okay with them censoring other things, than you are just a fucking hypocrite.
Gory pictures are on the news, in our newspapers, in the films people watch etc. Pornography is generally held to be in a different category altogether. I support the anti-abortion site as they show one side of a contentious issue. That stifles public debate. That, in turn, stifles democracy. No hypocracy involved.
Why would you want opt-out, instead of opt-in? I don't particularly like the idea of having to go to an ISP and identifying myself directly as either a subversive or a pervert.
People seem to deal with with ordering the porn channels on cable ok. What's the difference?
the first post!
I must admit that I was one of the few supporting the blacklist, when all they said they'd block was porn. In the original proposal users could 'opt out' of the automatic censorship by contacting their ISP. Families can cruise the web with more confidence and those who want porn can get it easily. No probs.
When they put the anti-abortion site on the blacklist they made an enemy of me. That's political. That's an attempt to stifle public debate. Public debate is the basis of democracy. The current Labour government is the most pro abortion government we've ever had in Australia with a number of 'Emily's List' MP's to boot.
Guess I'd better not annoy anyone in that department too much though or those hairy arm-pitted lesbian feminist civil 'servants' will block my business website as well!
Just out of curiosity, how did the OpenOffice Math package to as opposed to the spreadsheet application Calc?
The latest version of OpenOffice has cleaned up a lot of things and added features. A test with a couple of 'switched on' students could be useful. Switching the whole lab over at once could be a bit of a disaster as there are some differences in the way OpenOffice does things.
Does Quickbooks ( / other package ) run in Wine?
Some Quickbooks stuff does. Don't remember how I did it last time. MYOB works well.
No, I've read your posts and you don't know anything... OO has the maths and the graphs. Get on with life you MS clone.
MBGMorden. Just out of interest, which version of OpenOffice did you trial? How do you think the current version rates?
[Quickly pulls numbers out of thin air] I strongly suspect that the number of people who need features present in Office 2007 but not in OOo 3.x is a lot less than the number of people locked into WIndows because of Quickbooks.
Hmm. I have managed Quickbooks on Wine in Linux. MYOB as well. Was for a new immigrant studying Accounting.
There's a simple reason many people need MS Office: compatibility. When you submit an article to a scientific journal, or a federal grant application commitee, or to a literary journal, or a fiction magazine, or a publisher or any sort, they want it as an MS Word document with specific formatting. Yes, that's not in every field, but it's in enough of them.
You don't know anything about Openoffice, do you? It can open MS formats and save in them. Has done for years. I've set up a stack of disadvantaged students with Linux and OpenOffice and I have never had a complaint about OpenOffice. Ever.
It's this easy. Just go into Preferences and set the standard formats to the MS ones. Easy.
And people who are writing essays, and need to submit them, correctly formatted, to a professional publication that requires submission in MS Word format.
However some essays need submitting in MS Word format. I've found OpenOffice to be up to the task. Also, just out of interest, what kind of shonky printer uses MS Word format for submissions? Way too dodgy. MS Word can't even preserve formatting between slightly different versions of their own software! Even the same version on two different machines (perhaps slightly different configurations) can stuff up your document. No. Post-script or PDF for professional publications. NOT MS Word.
For those people who just can't get the hang of using anything else, well, maybe. For those with an IQ over 100, why?
If OpenOffice could get me through 4yrs of degree level study and produce essays with content not only in 3 different languages, but 3 different scripts (alphabets) - one of them right-to-left, who needs the expense and general nuisance of Microsoft Office?
Returning a 404 would be the first thing that I would do post competition. You still get the requests for a bit though...
In Victoria, Australia we get to choose both our suppliers for electricity, gas, local phone, international calls from a landline, etc. The upshot of it is that a lot of people don't know who their suppliers are, who is billing them or who to call when things go down.