I read the thing when it was first released (I was online when they sent the e-mails through the mailing lists) and it has always read what you quoted, so I'm not sure what that parent is talking about.
Jump right to the Ubuntu fanboys, why doncha! Totally forget that the Windows fanboys could have modded him troll as well. You're so OS-ist, all the lot of yah. Sick and tired of it.
Not so odd, when you realise people just want that Mac if it's been used a bit and just a tad cheaper. It's like a car; get something with some miles on it, bit it'd be out of your price range otherwise.
Dell? Go grab a new one. Not all that more expensive, and probably on sale. Again.
Now imagine the iPod strategy was taken the full run with desktop PC's. It physically hurts to think about how powerful Apple could be if they released some low-end PC systems, so that the iPod Shuffle crowd could have a matching Mac Minimini.
Have you ever tried to help a user over e-mail or something? Compare these two:
Go to the Applitions menu, click Add/Remove, then hit the button next to "Show:" and slide up to "all available applications." Type in "Thunderbird" into the search box next to it. Find Thunderbird in the list, click the checkmark, and then click "Apply Changes" at the bottom. Say Yes to everything is asks.
Open up the terminal (Applications, accessories), and cut and paste the following without quotes: "apt-get install thunderbird" and press enter. Say yes to everything it asks.
I'd say most non-techies prefer the latter. I certainly do.
I find a lot of players are habituated to beleive graphical goodness == a good game, so they look at these less visually impressive works and extrapolate that the game itself is poor.
This. But, I removed the "younger" from your post. There are plenty of thirty year olds who can't get past how nice a game looks, and they'll let you know it.
It runs plenty smoothly, and it plays like a mix between UT2k4 and Quake 3. It's basically Quake Live plus, you know, things like secondary fire.
And the other poster put it nicely: why do they need to "compete?" They're doing just fine; the game runs great and looks very nice. It's a hobby project. I'm not a next-gen kind of fellow, but it runs on Ubuntu just fine (more than you can say for Quake Live) and manages to be a simple, fun FPS.
I'd be hard pressed to say Nexuiz is a bad game by any means. It looks nicer than Unreal Tournament 2004 (definitely not the "ten years" bollocks you spouted) and plays like a dream for me, a mainstream PC gamer who wants a fun, simple shooter. I'm certainly not alone in the servers, I'll say that much.
If you don't like it, don't play it. But honestly, if you don't like it and you really feel like trolling, give us reasoning besides "I don't like the genre."
You may have, but unfortunately not everybody is exactly the same as you. You fail to account for taste. Heck, look at all the people still playing Quake, Quake 3, and UT99. Some people still like simple arena FPS games.
When will the Linux community build a desktop distro that wows the pants off of average Joe user?
When the average Joe user actually knows what an OS is and cares about which one they run. You may be waiting for a while, there.
Linux already has the anti-virus, and the simple, easy-to-learn GUIs and awesome software management. It's more a matter of first telling people what that all means, and then second telling them how to use all of it intelligently.
There is nothing to "work around" if you're smart and don't install the beta releases of a Fedora release (which is known to throw all the new tech into it at once to see what happens). Go with Ubuntu 8.10, and soon 9.04 will be released (the Beta is running very well). For Ubuntu, it's just a matter of teaching the users how to use sopme of the stuff that makes Linux different.
It's not hard, or worse, it's just different. It's up to the user to decide whether it's better or worse. Hopefully a tutorial mode is created by one of the major distros soon; that would be pretty nice.
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The people who are educated enough to criticize the code are the people who are smart enough (and possibly have the time) to make a change to the code. Critics and their words do nothing when open-source programmers are working their butts off as it is. Often it's less of a perspective issue and more of a time and feasibility issue.
Your post would also be far more interesting without a "wah wah wah people disagree with me" on the end.
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Is this this thing still around? It was funny the first two. I chuckled the third. Now? Eh.
I've been using the thing since Alpha 6. They've ironed out a lot of bugs since then, and the Beta was really rather stable.
I haven't had or seen any nVidia card issues; is this a known bug? what card are you running?
I guess I'm the guy who has to post this...*sigh*...did you file bug reports yet?
Please stop hurting yourself. This was an upstream issue, and you can bet that Fedora's going to run into the same problem unless somebody fixes it.
I read the thing when it was first released (I was online when they sent the e-mails through the mailing lists) and it has always read what you quoted, so I'm not sure what that parent is talking about.
Servers?
Jump right to the Ubuntu fanboys, why doncha! Totally forget that the Windows fanboys could have modded him troll as well. You're so OS-ist, all the lot of yah. Sick and tired of it.
It's already installed, you insufferable clod!
Not so odd, when you realise people just want that Mac if it's been used a bit and just a tad cheaper. It's like a car; get something with some miles on it, bit it'd be out of your price range otherwise.
Dell? Go grab a new one. Not all that more expensive, and probably on sale. Again.
Now imagine the iPod strategy was taken the full run with desktop PC's. It physically hurts to think about how powerful Apple could be if they released some low-end PC systems, so that the iPod Shuffle crowd could have a matching Mac Minimini.
Have you ever tried to help a user over e-mail or something? Compare these two:
Go to the Applitions menu, click Add/Remove, then hit the button next to "Show:" and slide up to "all available applications." Type in "Thunderbird" into the search box next to it. Find Thunderbird in the list, click the checkmark, and then click "Apply Changes" at the bottom. Say Yes to everything is asks.
Open up the terminal (Applications, accessories), and cut and paste the following without quotes: "apt-get install thunderbird" and press enter. Say yes to everything it asks.
I'd say most non-techies prefer the latter. I certainly do.
Or you could just download the OO.o 3 packages and double click on them; if that doesn't work, just dpkg the things.
I was in an English class studying the Canterbury tales, and someone asked if that one chocolate egg company was named after them.
The Europeans loved Obama. Please, stop hurting yourself.
Mod parent down.
Nexuiz isn't a lame knock-off, and you cannot say it's "objectively" so. I doubt you even know what that word means.
Some people actually like Nexuiz. Try playing it first before spouting off incoherent fragments of "hopelessly lame" comments.
I find a lot of players are habituated to beleive graphical goodness == a good game, so they look at these less visually impressive works and extrapolate that the game itself is poor.
This. But, I removed the "younger" from your post. There are plenty of thirty year olds who can't get past how nice a game looks, and they'll let you know it.
Some people like this type of gameplay. Who are you to judge?
Half-Life 1 used chunks of both engines.
It runs plenty smoothly, and it plays like a mix between UT2k4 and Quake 3. It's basically Quake Live plus, you know, things like secondary fire.
And the other poster put it nicely: why do they need to "compete?" They're doing just fine; the game runs great and looks very nice. It's a hobby project. I'm not a next-gen kind of fellow, but it runs on Ubuntu just fine (more than you can say for Quake Live) and manages to be a simple, fun FPS.
Nexuiz is (partially) compatible with Quake 3 maps. Some shaders and other effects might be off, but they all use basically the same format.
I'd be hard pressed to say Nexuiz is a bad game by any means. It looks nicer than Unreal Tournament 2004 (definitely not the "ten years" bollocks you spouted) and plays like a dream for me, a mainstream PC gamer who wants a fun, simple shooter. I'm certainly not alone in the servers, I'll say that much.
If you don't like it, don't play it. But honestly, if you don't like it and you really feel like trolling, give us reasoning besides "I don't like the genre."
The gamers moved onto greener pastures
You may have, but unfortunately not everybody is exactly the same as you. You fail to account for taste. Heck, look at all the people still playing Quake, Quake 3, and UT99. Some people still like simple arena FPS games.
When will the Linux community build a desktop distro that wows the pants off of average Joe user?
When the average Joe user actually knows what an OS is and cares about which one they run. You may be waiting for a while, there.
Linux already has the anti-virus, and the simple, easy-to-learn GUIs and awesome software management. It's more a matter of first telling people what that all means, and then second telling them how to use all of it intelligently.
There is nothing to "work around" if you're smart and don't install the beta releases of a Fedora release (which is known to throw all the new tech into it at once to see what happens). Go with Ubuntu 8.10, and soon 9.04 will be released (the Beta is running very well). For Ubuntu, it's just a matter of teaching the users how to use sopme of the stuff that makes Linux different.
It's not hard, or worse, it's just different. It's up to the user to decide whether it's better or worse. Hopefully a tutorial mode is created by one of the major distros soon; that would be pretty nice.
GP is talking about Fedora, not Ubuntu.
The people who are educated enough to criticize the code are the people who are smart enough (and possibly have the time) to make a change to the code. Critics and their words do nothing when open-source programmers are working their butts off as it is. Often it's less of a perspective issue and more of a time and feasibility issue.
Your post would also be far more interesting without a "wah wah wah people disagree with me" on the end.