I think you're going about this backwards. The approach is fundamentally flawed because you are offloading the decision making about the content to the author. But the author can't know whether some particular content is safe for _your_ work, or whatever your context may be. Instead, we need a way for an author to encode metadata about the content in their page or their entire page as a whole that the browser can combine with user preferences to make a nsfw determination. Now the problem with this approach is that it relies on the author to care about letting their users avoid content and even if they did there's all this legacy net content. So this is where a social solution can really help. With a relatively simple addon and an nsfw server. Users can tag a page/link/div/etc as porn, or even give content an MPAA-type rating. A few users would of course be ginea pigs. But as they encounter the content, they tag it and the addon aware browser can add all the metadata to the page that we were originally counting on the author to provide. Then CSS can take over to hide/style the content appropriately. As with any social solution, you have to have controls and reviews to ensure that the users are not being malicious...
Thank you. The problem with inifinities is that there are so many different kinds. In my opinion, if space were infinite, that would imply an infinite number of inhabited planets, though probably a countable amount. While the infiniteness of the universe is clearly uncountable.
You can think of this like integers vs real numbers. Both are infinite, but the fact that there's an infinite number of numbers between any two real numbers, makes it a lot MORE infinite.
And you still can't divide infinities. At best you can take a limit...
You are assuming that the GPL will stand up in court. Certainly, that would be nice, but there's a chance that it will be thrown out. If that happens, the open source movement as we know it will come crashing down around us and the millions of man hours that we thought were being spent for the good of all mankind will become null and void overnight. Personally, I think we should let the GPL stand as a threat as long as possible and do our best to beef it up in the meantime so that it will withstand a court battle.
Remember that this is not the first time that the WTC was attacked. After the bombing in '93 I'm sure people were unsure about working there but people get over these things pretty quick...
But, it seems like there are some major double standards going on on slashdot. Legislation to kill spammers is ok but legislation to prevent people from steal^H^H^H^H^H sharing music is not. Spammers should be fought with technology not laws.
So many slashdotters scream for smaller government and bitch whenever the government passes a law dealing with technology but applaude them when they pass a law that they like. Please people, make up your minds (Esp. you CmdrTaco).
-crispy
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I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to me.
I did that in a cs class of mine. It was abundandtly obvious. The grader agreed w/ me but I still lost points. Now that I am in the real world I javadoc every function I write. It is obvious to me, obvious to any other programmer... but is it obvious to everyone?
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I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
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I was a big pot smoker in college. But I graduated recently and quit smoking at the same time. I was amazed at how much clearer I thought and spoke. Now that I have been working for a while I decided to try it again a couple times. It made me real stupid for a week afterwards and my productivity dropped more than I would have liked. I have decided to make it a very special occasion thing now. Even once a month is too much for me now. But that is a personal decision. I would support anyone's decision to smoke as long as it isn't interfering with their life.
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I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
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After all, those little programs are probably the biggest culprits in illegal software and file exchange. You know why don't we just go back to live performances and stop "recording" things. That would ensure that people have to pay... Boy this whole thing really chaps my hide. I hope some sort of frivolous lawsuit law applies here.
<SIG> I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu. </SIG>
hehe... It's not quite midnight here on the Pacific Coast but I got started early. I am going to wake and bake tomorrow morning in celebration. Too bad we can't just make this a national holliday.
<SIG> I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu. </SIG>
We are expected to believe that these things cost a lot because they are very "technical" and therefore costly. The government is just as dumb so the companies get to rape us blind with huge markups. Oh well. By now we should be used to it.
<SIG> I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu. </SIG>
I took a class on Telecommunicatioins law. IANAL. That said, This does not mean that we'll pay more for the airwaves that we use. Even the current system where the FCC doles out the airwaves costs the companies money. The FCC used to hold auctions for bandwidth to determine what it was worth and sell it to the highest bidder. I think they still do. Plus there's lots of lawyer fees that a company must pay to even have a chance at getting a section of the spectrum. I'd bet that the cost to the consumer would go down under this new system. Believe in the free market values that have served us so well. IMHO, Government interaction can only have a negative effect on the efficiency of a market that could be made free.
<SIG> I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu. </SIG>
I think we can just say that drugs make most everything better;-) But music I think is the one that benefits the most. I'll take some pink floyd and a bowl of cronic, please!
<SIG> I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu. </SIG>
You are really blowing this out of proportion. In fact, you are spread FUD. Slash is OSS. It is not closed as you propose. The current version hasn't been released yet; That's all. I've been waiting for months and months for the next release of X and KDE. Sometimes one just has to wait.
Rob has released the slash code in the past and has stated that he is in the process of getting out the next release soon. Give the guy a break. He's busy. VERY BUSY. He is releasing the code. So what if he's not doing fast or often enough for you. Who the fuck are you to place that kind of demands on him? How much source code have you released? Do you have any idea how much work is involved in getting code ready for release? Somehow I think you don't.
<SIG> I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu. </SIG>
No, You are right on. He sucks. He has the same acting style as when he starred in "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure". The funny thing is (And I'm not sure that it is actually true), I heard that there is an acting school that is based on Keanu's acting style. I guess they teach the students to say "Whoa" and look surprised all the time.
I must admit I liked him in "Point Break" because his surfer schtick (sp?) actually fit the part.
<SIG> I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu. </SIG>
I am a nerd which means I make/will make enough money to buy all the little nerdy toys I want. If you are looking to buy me something for christmas get me something I wouldn't normally get for myself. I know it seems trite, but top on the list is clothing. I don't buy clothing for myself unless I'm facing become a nudist as an alternative. When I do it's not nice clothes. Use your non-nerd tastes to take me shopping and buy me some cool clothes. Take a look at the nerd in your life and figure out where he's defficient. I'll bet he knows it and will be grateful when your gift fills that little void in his life (umm... maybe you should avoid getting him a whore though:-)
Mostly it's not about the gifts. Its about spending some quality time with the family because my life is too hectic to visit otherwise. When I go home to visit for christmas I am content to spend my christmas morning with a hot cup of coffee and watch everyone open their gifts. Who needs gifts when I have wonderful people to share the holidays with?!
<SIG> I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu. </SIG>
Yeah hehe I had netscape and mozilla running concurrently when I noticed EVERYTHING was going real slow. The two of them had tag-teamed my memory and swap. Took several minutes just to quit out of them. It's the memory problems in netscape that I hate the most!
I don't like the Explorer-ish bookmark panel.
The very first thing I do is collapse it. I know they are trying to make a good browser but I think it's too feature-full (umm... bloated) for my tastes. I want fast browsing! And I want more of my browser window to be taken up by the web page than the browser! I hope that when they are done they'll be able to make two versions: a lite version for people like me, and a bloated piece of crap for fans of netscape and explorer. Then again Maybe I should just write my own damn browser. How hard can it be;-)
<SIG> I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu. </SIG>
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> Heck I'd even learn objective-C if I had to.
You should learn objective-C because it is a good language.
I think you're going about this backwards. The approach is fundamentally flawed because you are offloading the decision making about the content to the author. But the author can't know whether some particular content is safe for _your_ work, or whatever your context may be. Instead, we need a way for an author to encode metadata about the content in their page or their entire page as a whole that the browser can combine with user preferences to make a nsfw determination. Now the problem with this approach is that it relies on the author to care about letting their users avoid content and even if they did there's all this legacy net content. So this is where a social solution can really help. With a relatively simple addon and an nsfw server. Users can tag a page/link/div/etc as porn, or even give content an MPAA-type rating. A few users would of course be ginea pigs. But as they encounter the content, they tag it and the addon aware browser can add all the metadata to the page that we were originally counting on the author to provide. Then CSS can take over to hide/style the content appropriately. As with any social solution, you have to have controls and reviews to ensure that the users are not being malicious...
You're right, of course. This is what I get for only taking one semester of analysis...
Thank you. The problem with inifinities is that there are so many different kinds. In my opinion, if space were infinite, that would imply an infinite number of inhabited planets, though probably a countable amount. While the infiniteness of the universe is clearly uncountable.
You can think of this like integers vs real numbers. Both are infinite, but the fact that there's an infinite number of numbers between any two real numbers, makes it a lot MORE infinite.
And you still can't divide infinities. At best you can take a limit...
You are assuming that the GPL will stand up in court. Certainly, that would be nice, but there's a chance that it will be thrown out. If that happens, the open source movement as we know it will come crashing down around us and the millions of man hours that we thought were being spent for the good of all mankind will become null and void overnight. Personally, I think we should let the GPL stand as a threat as long as possible and do our best to beef it up in the meantime so that it will withstand a court battle.
This guy needs to lay off the 'shrooms :-)
Similar obstacles have all been tackled by the TiVo hackers. It's very doable once you know the format of the fs.
Could this technology be used to prevent road rage? It could shut the car down if you get too angry and start driving erratically...
I haven't had a single phone solicitation since I signed up for the service a few months ago. It's well worth the $3/month.
Remember that this is not the first time that the WTC was attacked. After the bombing in '93 I'm sure people were unsure about working there but people get over these things pretty quick...
Mod this parent up please!
Darn, you beat me to it. :-P
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I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to me.
Please don't mistake this for flame bait.
But, it seems like there are some major double standards going on on slashdot. Legislation to kill spammers is ok but legislation to prevent people from steal^H^H^H^H^H sharing music is not. Spammers should be fought with technology not laws.
So many slashdotters scream for smaller government and bitch whenever the government passes a law dealing with technology but applaude them when they pass a law that they like. Please people, make up your minds (Esp. you CmdrTaco).
-crispy
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to me.
I did that in a cs class of mine. It was abundandtly obvious. The grader agreed w/ me but I still lost points. Now that I am in the real world I javadoc every function I write. It is obvious to me, obvious to any other programmer... but is it obvious to everyone?
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I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
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Integraded??
I think you mean integrated.
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I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
I was a big pot smoker in college. But I graduated recently and quit smoking at the same time. I was amazed at how much clearer I thought and spoke. Now that I have been working for a while I decided to try it again a couple times. It made me real stupid for a week afterwards and my productivity dropped more than I would have liked. I have decided to make it a very special occasion thing now. Even once a month is too much for me now. But that is a personal decision. I would support anyone's decision to smoke as long as it isn't interfering with their life.
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
After all, those little programs are probably the biggest culprits in illegal software and file exchange. You know why don't we just go back to live performances and stop "recording" things. That would ensure that people have to pay... Boy this whole thing really chaps my hide. I hope some sort of frivolous lawsuit law applies here.
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
hehe... It's not quite midnight here on the Pacific Coast but I got started early. I am going to wake and bake tomorrow morning in celebration. Too bad we can't just make this a national holliday.
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
(Yeah I know I misspelled it.)
We are expected to believe that these things cost a lot because they are very "technical" and therefore costly. The government is just as dumb so the companies get to rape us blind with huge markups. Oh well. By now we should be used to it.
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
I took a class on Telecommunicatioins law. IANAL.
That said, This does not mean that we'll pay more for the airwaves that we use. Even the current system where the FCC doles out the airwaves costs the companies money. The FCC used to hold auctions for bandwidth to determine what it was worth and sell it to the highest bidder. I think they still do. Plus there's lots of lawyer fees that a company must pay to even have a chance at getting a section of the spectrum. I'd bet that the cost to the consumer would go down under this new system. Believe in the free market values that have served us so well. IMHO, Government interaction can only have a negative effect on the efficiency of a market that could be made free.
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
I think we can just say that drugs make most everything better;-) But music I think is the one that benefits the most. I'll take some pink floyd and a bowl of cronic, please!
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
You are really blowing this out of proportion. In fact, you are spread FUD. Slash is OSS. It is not closed as you propose. The current version hasn't been released yet; That's all. I've been waiting for months and months for the next release of X and KDE. Sometimes one just has to wait.
Rob has released the slash code in the past and has stated that he is in the process of getting out the next release soon. Give the guy a break. He's busy. VERY BUSY. He is releasing the code. So what if he's not doing fast or often enough for you. Who the fuck are you to place that kind of demands on him? How much source code have you released? Do you have any idea how much work is involved in getting code ready for release? Somehow I think you don't.
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
No, You are right on. He sucks. He has the same acting style as when he starred in "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure". The funny thing is (And I'm not sure that it is actually true), I heard that there is an acting school that is based on Keanu's acting style. I guess they teach the students to say "Whoa" and look surprised all the time.
I must admit I liked him in "Point Break" because his surfer schtick (sp?) actually fit the part.
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
I am a nerd which means I make/will make enough money to buy all the little nerdy toys I want. If you are looking to buy me something for christmas get me something I wouldn't normally get for myself. I know it seems trite, but top on the list is clothing. I don't buy clothing for myself unless I'm facing become a nudist as an alternative. When I do it's not nice clothes. Use your non-nerd tastes to take me shopping and buy me some cool clothes. Take a look at the nerd in your life and figure out where he's defficient. I'll bet he knows it and will be grateful when your gift fills that little void in his life (umm... maybe you should avoid getting him a whore though :-)
Mostly it's not about the gifts. Its about spending some quality time with the family because my life is too hectic to visit otherwise. When I go home to visit for christmas I am content to spend my christmas morning with a hot cup of coffee and watch everyone open their gifts. Who needs gifts when I have wonderful people to share the holidays with?!
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>
Yeah hehe I had netscape and mozilla running concurrently when I noticed EVERYTHING was going real slow. The two of them had tag-teamed my memory and swap. Took several minutes just to quit out of them. It's the memory problems in netscape that I hate the most!
;-)
I don't like the Explorer-ish bookmark panel.
The very first thing I do is collapse it. I know they are trying to make a good browser but I think it's too feature-full (umm... bloated) for my tastes. I want fast browsing! And I want more of my browser window to be taken up by the web page than the browser! I hope that when they are done they'll be able to make two versions: a lite version for people like me, and a bloated piece of crap for fans of netscape and explorer. Then again Maybe I should just write my own damn browser. How hard can it be
<SIG>
I think I lost my work ethic while surfing the web. If you find it, please email it to crispy@crotch.caltech.edu.
</SIG>