Yes. Commander Taco is probably correct. Someone will write a script to "spam the hell out of them."
The only thing is, that someone probably wouldn't even have thought about doing it if Taco hadn't mentioned the idea on Slashdot.:-)
Yes. Thanks.
That is what I was wondering.
Not being a lawyer and all, I was wondering if the mere fact that someone else had conceptualized the whole thing would be enough to discredit a patent on hyperlinking.
Yes! Yes!
That is what I was refering to. Thank you for posting the link to the article (my main familiarity with the article if from it's too brief discription in Stephen Levy's book 'Insanely Great'.
As the other responder to your comment puts it "even a discription is enough to invalidate a patent." (Not a pure quote).
What I am wondering is: Is that so? Would the fact that Mr. Bush described such a thing really be enough to fight this patent?
I think Vannevar Bush (is that spelling right?) demonstrated the basic/concepts/ of hyperlinking back in the 1940's (although the actual technologies involved did not exist at the time. Would this, or would it not, be an example of "prior art"?
(YES. This is an invitation for further discussion on the subject.)
I agree. An onboard computer would be best used to automate the attack sequence of the bot rather than be responsible for moving the bot into attack position.
As far as getting a good frame rate back from an onboard cam, I would have to disagree with you. I can (occasionally) get a pretty good frame rate from a webcam via a dial up modem connection. I figure any wireless networking technology that can provide at least a modest 1mb per sec connection should be able to generate a fast enough frame rate to accomplish a decent first person perspective.
Of course, doing this would be interesting mostly from the hack value. And yes, the cost is what would make this prohibitive.
I would love to build something like this, but I don't want to use MY cash to do it with.
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I will have an email coming your way.
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This would be a great subject for a slashdot poll. How many of us keep a library on the back of their toilet?
I have about 3 magazines and four books on the back of mine (and lets not get into how many more my wife has stacked on there).
Maybe houses should be designed with room for a book case in the bathroom.
I can understand your putting this book on your "never lend" collection.
However, it is on my "Lend whenever possible" list. This book was just too good to keep to myself (I have read it about 5 times).
I have a copy. And I am willing to lend it.
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If you would really be interested in reading this book and cannot get a copy, I am willing to lend you my copy (it is a MUST read).
I will send my copy free of charge to the first serious individual who responds to this post. My only requirement is that I get the book back when you are done.
Right. Well, I didn't say anything about wearing any kind of head mounted display. What I am trying to describe is using a laptop as the remote controller for the bot.
This would give the controller the full ability to look up from the controls and see where his/her bot is located spacially in the arena, as well as the ability to control movement based on a first person view.
If you have ever used a remote control toy, you know how hard it can be to control one when it gets turned around (suddenly turning right on the control stick makes the vehicle take a visual left turn {left to viewer, but still right from the vehicles perspective}).
This is seen in almost every match on "Battlebots". The robot appears to make the exact opposite move then the one that would allow it to deliver a "killing blow". All because the person in control is controlling the machine from a third person view.
Incidently, I would agree that in many ways, the "Battlebots" program on comedy central is a bit lame. Too many commercials and commentary and not enough action. However, programs like this are rare, and that alone makes it fun to watch.
Why don't they come out with a competition where the robots have to do something constructive... like collecting tennis balls or something? Ohh... never mind.
How about the minds here at Slashdot getting together to actually design a robot to go into the ring on Comedy Central?
Here is my concept: A bot that is controlled by both remote control AND an onboard computer system. The onboard system would have a connection to the controller's laptop via wireless networking. Place a "quickcam" on the bot so the controller gets video feedback from the ring (one of the big problems that I have seen on the show is when the robot is turned around opposite to the person controlling it, the person in control has difficulty handling the reversal in the controls.
The answer is to give the person in control a first person perspective.
Then setup the keybindings on the laptop to be the same as those used in Quake. And give the bot a chainsaw.
You would then have the ultimate bot/human interface because the human would be adapted to the controls through years of training for deathmatches in Quake.
Oh My God!
I usually don't follow links posted by ACs, but when I saw where this one pointed, I just HAD to check it out.
And yes, I agree. That is one hell of an asshole.
I seem to remember seeing a piece about a software project that allows AOL IM clients to connect to an IRC server an then send and receive messages via that. It seemed to be an addon for the ircd running (so you must be the owner of the IRC server to make this work.)
Perhaps something like this will allow us to use IM clients without having to go through AOL's servers. Seems like a good alternative for me.
Although personally, I don't use a IM client of any flavor. I prefer real, live IRC (because I don't have any friends).
I am so glad that I will continue to be in the wonderfull position of having to re-download realmedia content everytime that I want to see/hear it. That makes much more sense then downloading once and archiving it!
Okay, a college degree does not necessarily mean anything. My sister-in-law got hers and she is as stupid as a stick.
But, the college time means a lot more than that. It means that your non-technical upper-management will be more likely to pay attention to you - where I work, my ideas have to go up via one of my college educated peers in order to be reviewed by the executive board.
Having college also means that you have more opportunities for advancement. Many corporations have certain job requirements that must be met in order to advance to the next salary range, and often that involves college or at least a certain amount of college credit.
College is also the last time many tech-types will have to goof off before the real world comes crashing down around your ears. Enjoy it while you can.
Okay, when I go to www.linux.com, a copy of that website goes to my internet cache. If I make a couple of changes to the site and personalize it, change the substance a little bit, who is to say that I am wrong?
This is one of those areas where I think people have to go with their own gut instincts. I would not have a problem doing a total rip of say, slashdot or linux.com and putting up a personal website with information about me, my family, or my favorite hobby. For me though, I would have to draw the line at ripping off someone elses site design to make money. That would be BAD.
The site in question in this article does kind of leave a bad taste in my mouth... it's kind of somewhere in between the two extremes that I listed in the above paragraph. Maybe I would feel better if he had kept the page formatting and simply changed out some of the graphical style involved.
Oh well, everyone is entitled to their own opinions (except for persons with schizophrenia, who may be entitled to multiple opinions. No! They are entitled to no opinions what-so-ever. Yes they, are you crazy or something?)
Their response sounds like little more than a lame attempt to put an early end to yet another round of the Great and Holy Gnome/KDE Jihad (Flame War.) Just listen to the way they say that the GNOME foundation will have no affect on KDE! I can't believe that the KDE developers did not take this as an opportunity to surround GNOME's fortresses and lay siege to their walls with great catipults of "my desktop environment is better than yours."
Seriously though, it is nice to see some level heads out there trying to put an end to the constant bickering that seems to never die between these two camps. Personally, I use GNOME on my desktop workstation and KDE on my laptop. I am very happy with both.
As Eric Corley points out (rather sarcastically) on the 2600 website, what about search engines that link to deCSS? can they be held accountable? After all, when you type in a search at google, the site simply produces a list of LINKS to whatever you searched for. The criminals!
Wow! you nailed my whole life right on the head! Good work. Are you following me?
Seriously though... you as what does this have to do with me? Well, I'll tell you: I am a user of open source software and an advocate of open source software. Therefore, the comments made by the plaintiff are aimed at me. Or didn't you read the article before deciding to flame me?
No. My comment was not moderated up. In fact, it appears to have been moderated down one. The reason why it was a "2" when you first read it was because I have enough karma to generate an automatic "2" for everything that I post. In fact, if I were to post a "First Post" it would how up as a "2" until someone moderated me down.
What I want to know is why my post was moderated down. It was neither a troll nor flamebait... interesting.
Okay.
You have a point. I guess Desert Storm/Shield made really good/business/ sense. Maybe I should have said that we had no/right/ to be there.
I dunno. America was built on the backs of slaves and by waging war against the rightful dwellers in this country (the Native Americans.) And here we were telling the world that Sadam was Evil because he dared to try and expand his nation through the suffereing of others? Give me a break. If North American belonged to the Native American's today, nothing would stop the government from annexing their lands... and they would get we, the public, to support it.
But... My God! What does this have to do with video games?
Question the morality of their actions? Most people have been indoctrinated to believe that morality is out-moded. "Ethics" is the proper term, and "Situational Ethics" is the "proper" application of ethics.
In other words: It's okay for the United States to bomb Iraq because Sadam Hussien is Evil (it has nothing to do with oil... please pay no attention to the thousands of attrocities commited by non-oil producing nations.)
I spent eight years in the military myself (yes, I got out with an Honorable Discharge.) As a disabled veteran, I have one thing to say about "wars" like Desert Storm: WE HAD NO BUSINESS THERE.
So, now we are supposed to believe that video games can both cure a child's Attention Deficit Disorder AND turn them into Uzi-toting terrorist mass-murderers?
I get a free newspaper in the mailbox every week also. They pile up in the passenger-side floorboards about a foot thick (I drive up to my mailbox, so all my junk mail piles up in the floorboard until I get around to cleaning the car.)
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Yes. Commander Taco is probably correct. Someone will write a script to "spam the hell out of them." The only thing is, that someone probably wouldn't even have thought about doing it if Taco hadn't mentioned the idea on Slashdot. :-)
Yes. Thanks.
That is what I was wondering.
Not being a lawyer and all, I was wondering if the mere fact that someone else had conceptualized the whole thing would be enough to discredit a patent on hyperlinking.
Yes! Yes! That is what I was refering to. Thank you for posting the link to the article (my main familiarity with the article if from it's too brief discription in Stephen Levy's book 'Insanely Great'. As the other responder to your comment puts it "even a discription is enough to invalidate a patent." (Not a pure quote). What I am wondering is: Is that so? Would the fact that Mr. Bush described such a thing really be enough to fight this patent?
I think Vannevar Bush (is that spelling right?) demonstrated the basic /concepts/ of hyperlinking back in the 1940's (although the actual technologies involved did not exist at the time. Would this, or would it not, be an example of "prior art"?
(YES. This is an invitation for further discussion on the subject.)
I agree. An onboard computer would be best used to automate the attack sequence of the bot rather than be responsible for moving the bot into attack position.
As far as getting a good frame rate back from an onboard cam, I would have to disagree with you. I can (occasionally) get a pretty good frame rate from a webcam via a dial up modem connection. I figure any wireless networking technology that can provide at least a modest 1mb per sec connection should be able to generate a fast enough frame rate to accomplish a decent first person perspective.
Of course, doing this would be interesting mostly from the hack value. And yes, the cost is what would make this prohibitive.
I would love to build something like this, but I don't want to use MY cash to do it with.
I will have an email coming your way.
This would be a great subject for a slashdot poll. How many of us keep a library on the back of their toilet?
I have about 3 magazines and four books on the back of mine (and lets not get into how many more my wife has stacked on there).
Maybe houses should be designed with room for a book case in the bathroom.
I can understand your putting this book on your "never lend" collection. However, it is on my "Lend whenever possible" list. This book was just too good to keep to myself (I have read it about 5 times).
If you would really be interested in reading this book and cannot get a copy, I am willing to lend you my copy (it is a MUST read). I will send my copy free of charge to the first serious individual who responds to this post. My only requirement is that I get the book back when you are done.
Right. Well, I didn't say anything about wearing any kind of head mounted display. What I am trying to describe is using a laptop as the remote controller for the bot.
This would give the controller the full ability to look up from the controls and see where his/her bot is located spacially in the arena, as well as the ability to control movement based on a first person view.
If you have ever used a remote control toy, you know how hard it can be to control one when it gets turned around (suddenly turning right on the control stick makes the vehicle take a visual left turn {left to viewer, but still right from the vehicles perspective}).
This is seen in almost every match on "Battlebots". The robot appears to make the exact opposite move then the one that would allow it to deliver a "killing blow". All because the person in control is controlling the machine from a third person view.
Incidently, I would agree that in many ways, the "Battlebots" program on comedy central is a bit lame. Too many commercials and commentary and not enough action. However, programs like this are rare, and that alone makes it fun to watch.
Why don't they come out with a competition where the robots have to do something constructive... like collecting tennis balls or something? Ohh... never mind.
How about the minds here at Slashdot getting together to actually design a robot to go into the ring on Comedy Central?
Here is my concept: A bot that is controlled by both remote control AND an onboard computer system. The onboard system would have a connection to the controller's laptop via wireless networking. Place a "quickcam" on the bot so the controller gets video feedback from the ring (one of the big problems that I have seen on the show is when the robot is turned around opposite to the person controlling it, the person in control has difficulty handling the reversal in the controls.
The answer is to give the person in control a first person perspective.
Then setup the keybindings on the laptop to be the same as those used in Quake. And give the bot a chainsaw.
You would then have the ultimate bot/human interface because the human would be adapted to the controls through years of training for deathmatches in Quake.
Oh My God!
I usually don't follow links posted by ACs, but when I saw where this one pointed, I just HAD to check it out.
And yes, I agree. That is one hell of an asshole.
I seem to remember seeing a piece about a software project that allows AOL IM clients to connect to an IRC server an then send and receive messages via that. It seemed to be an addon for the ircd running (so you must be the owner of the IRC server to make this work.)
Perhaps something like this will allow us to use IM clients without having to go through AOL's servers. Seems like a good alternative for me.
Although personally, I don't use a IM client of any flavor. I prefer real, live IRC (because I don't have any friends).
I am so glad that I will continue to be in the wonderfull position of having to re-download realmedia content everytime that I want to see/hear it. That makes much more sense then downloading once and archiving it!
Can anyone say "Streaming MP3?"
Okay, a college degree does not necessarily mean anything. My sister-in-law got hers and she is as stupid as a stick.
But, the college time means a lot more than that. It means that your non-technical upper-management will be more likely to pay attention to you - where I work, my ideas have to go up via one of my college educated peers in order to be reviewed by the executive board.
Having college also means that you have more opportunities for advancement. Many corporations have certain job requirements that must be met in order to advance to the next salary range, and often that involves college or at least a certain amount of college credit.
College is also the last time many tech-types will have to goof off before the real world comes crashing down around your ears. Enjoy it while you can.
Okay, when I go to www.linux.com, a copy of that website goes to my internet cache. If I make a couple of changes to the site and personalize it, change the substance a little bit, who is to say that I am wrong?
This is one of those areas where I think people have to go with their own gut instincts. I would not have a problem doing a total rip of say, slashdot or linux.com and putting up a personal website with information about me, my family, or my favorite hobby. For me though, I would have to draw the line at ripping off someone elses site design to make money. That would be BAD.
The site in question in this article does kind of leave a bad taste in my mouth... it's kind of somewhere in between the two extremes that I listed in the above paragraph. Maybe I would feel better if he had kept the page formatting and simply changed out some of the graphical style involved.
Oh well, everyone is entitled to their own opinions (except for persons with schizophrenia, who may be entitled to multiple opinions. No! They are entitled to no opinions what-so-ever. Yes they, are you crazy or something?)
Their response sounds like little more than a lame attempt to put an early end to yet another round of the Great and Holy Gnome/KDE Jihad (Flame War.) Just listen to the way they say that the GNOME foundation will have no affect on KDE! I can't believe that the KDE developers did not take this as an opportunity to surround GNOME's fortresses and lay siege to their walls with great catipults of "my desktop environment is better than yours." Seriously though, it is nice to see some level heads out there trying to put an end to the constant bickering that seems to never die between these two camps. Personally, I use GNOME on my desktop workstation and KDE on my laptop. I am very happy with both.
As Eric Corley points out (rather sarcastically) on the 2600 website, what about search engines that link to deCSS? can they be held accountable? After all, when you type in a search at google, the site simply produces a list of LINKS to whatever you searched for. The criminals!
Wow! you nailed my whole life right on the head! Good work. Are you following me? Seriously though... you as what does this have to do with me? Well, I'll tell you: I am a user of open source software and an advocate of open source software. Therefore, the comments made by the plaintiff are aimed at me. Or didn't you read the article before deciding to flame me?
No. My comment was not moderated up. In fact, it appears to have been moderated down one. The reason why it was a "2" when you first read it was because I have enough karma to generate an automatic "2" for everything that I post. In fact, if I were to post a "First Post" it would how up as a "2" until someone moderated me down. What I want to know is why my post was moderated down. It was neither a troll nor flamebait... interesting.
Okay. You have a point. I guess Desert Storm/Shield made really good /business/ sense. Maybe I should have said that we had no /right/ to be there.
I dunno. America was built on the backs of slaves and by waging war against the rightful dwellers in this country (the Native Americans.) And here we were telling the world that Sadam was Evil because he dared to try and expand his nation through the suffereing of others? Give me a break. If North American belonged to the Native American's today, nothing would stop the government from annexing their lands... and they would get we, the public, to support it.
But... My God! What does this have to do with video games?
My reaction to this can best be stated in just one word:
ANGRy
Question the morality of their actions? Most people have been indoctrinated to believe that morality is out-moded. "Ethics" is the proper term, and "Situational Ethics" is the "proper" application of ethics.
In other words: It's okay for the United States to bomb Iraq because Sadam Hussien is Evil (it has nothing to do with oil... please pay no attention to the thousands of attrocities commited by non-oil producing nations.)
I spent eight years in the military myself (yes, I got out with an Honorable Discharge.) As a disabled veteran, I have one thing to say about "wars" like Desert Storm: WE HAD NO BUSINESS THERE.
So, now we are supposed to believe that video games can both cure a child's Attention Deficit Disorder AND turn them into Uzi-toting terrorist mass-murderers?
...I guess parent's just can't win.
I get a free newspaper in the mailbox every week also. They pile up in the passenger-side floorboards about a foot thick (I drive up to my mailbox, so all my junk mail piles up in the floorboard until I get around to cleaning the car.)