>>>i will choose true wisdom by saying you have to pick a dividing line somewhere, and its arbitrary to some extent, but that's real life: messy and grey >>>
A dividing line is good - but not when it's ridiculous. You can't drink until your 21, but you can go kill people (or die) in Afghanistan at 18? That's just frakked up and illogical.
>>>and besides moron, you don't think prosecutors and judges have leeway and understand where the law is imperfect and they should err on the side of compassion?
No. Else we wouldn't see these repeated cases of young adults being imprisoned because they took nude photos of themselves.
>>>So arguably I'd say Macs are still included under this definition
Macs are not "IBM PC compatibles". They don't have the same BIOS, and also they evolved from a different genesis (Motorola 68000) than today's IBM PC/Wintel machines (8088) which have a direct lineage to that old machine.
"PC" is just an abbreviation for "IBM PC-compatible" and that has been the language convention since the mid-80s. Commodore v. IBM PC. Amiga v. PC. Macintosh (or Mac) v. PC. You weren't born yesterday and should know that PC and Mac are just abbreviations (unless you actually were born recently).
>>>the graphics really do look dated (what is that, CGA graphics flashback?), as well as the gameplay and sound effects (almost sounds like the simple PC speaker that we got rid of a long time ago, thank you very much). >>>
Wrong on both points. CGA was only 4 colors and the PC speaker just went "beep". Starguard's hires multi-color graphics look similar to an 8-bit computer (Atari or Commodore) while the aural effects sound like they were sampled from an old Atari console (1977). And the game looks hella fun! You don't have to have blood-and-guts spilling all over the place to enjoy a game. Some of my favorite games of all time looked like Star Guard - the challenge comes from surviving the onslaught not from the T&A.
>>>Standardizing the internet has absolutely *nothing* to do with this
Except it does. The guy I was replying to said, "Of course when they try to exchange tips with their other novice friends they won't be able to be cause they will all be running different browsers." If the web were standardized this would be a non-issue since 99% of the interaction is with the web itself, and should be identical in appearance/function across the board.
Also that guy's whole argument is ridiculous because it suggests all users should be using the same browser (i.e. Internet Explorer), so they can be on the same level. How dull and uninteresting. It's roughly equivalent to saying everyone should drive the same car, so they all have identical controls.
>>>"Click on the House to get to your home page" is what they remember. If there is no "house" they are lost.
Interesting. My browser just says "home" which is pretty self-explanatory.
The people of Maryland are getting price-gouged, and I don't see any VIABLE (keyword) competition rise-up and create electrical or natural gas alternatives to Baltimore G & E. Same with Microsoft.
I like to use Lynx. It let's me surf the net, while appearing to be doing work, thereby tricking the boss. It's also ridiculously fast and uses minimal bandwidth.
The only drawback is the 80-column limit. I wish there was a variant of Lynx that had no limit on how many columns appeared on the screen.
Really? So if I say "How considerate of you to dirty-up my Window 7 with Internet Explorer" does it alter the meaning? No. Not really. IE is still a door through which viruses leaked onto my XP system, and why I uninstalled it, and why I don't want it installed on my Win7 upgrade *at all*.
having the ballot as a webpage allows them to change the browser selection as required should download locations change
I thought of that too, but rejected it since Opera, Firefox, and Chrome would keep the web-location fixed, so as to remain compatible with the Win7 Browser Selection screen. If they did change the address then they'd be shooting themselves in their own foot. So hardcoding the FTP retrieval would be a non-issue.
In fact the current design with a webpage is dangerous to the EU's goal. 2-3 years from now Microsoft could change the browser website on purpose, to break the selection functionality, and just have Win7 install IE by default. The EU is unlikely to notice this deliberate sabotage.
You need to learn to think like a criminal, if you want to stop criminal behavior. The proposal the EU accepted is too easy to undermine and sabotage.
Because the functionality is already there. They're being good developers, you idiot. They don't want to reinvent the wheel just as much as we don't want to reinvent the wheel.
There's no need to install Innerweb Exploder, except the desire of the marketers to put that IE shortcut on the desktop. It would take less than a day to add the FTP functionality into the selection screen. "you idiot"
>>>Of course when they try to exchange tips with their other novice friends they won't be able to be cause they will all be running different browsers. This will make it much harder for the novice to become more proficient. And knowledgable users would very likely be forced to change browsers every time they logged onto a new machine. We would all be annoyed of course, but isn't that the ultimate goal of the "fairness" crowd? >>>
Do you work for Microsoft?
That's the most-ridiculous argument I've ever heard, and shows clear pro-MS bias. If the web was standardized (and Microsoft bothered to follow these standards instead of being an arrogant "we don't need to follow rules"), then it wouldn't matter which browser you used. They'd all be pretty much alike in their interface to the web, only differing in how they organize their menus.
ALSO:
I can easily imagine an inexperienced user like my brother being scared-off by the numerous "Warning: You are visiting opera.com, an unrecognized and possibly dangerous site," and then deciding not to install Opera. It's equivalent to if I went to buy a Toyota and a bunch of signs popped-up and said, "Warning you are buying a foreign car which might be dangerous." It could lead me to run-away and go buy a Microsoft Ford Explorer instead.
IE is an open door that lets viruses through. I was having a problem with viruses, and when I uninstalled IE, they disappeared. What a piece of crap program.
You're right. And when the U.S. DOJ fined the record companies for telling Walmart, Kmart, Target, and other stores, "You must sell these CDs are $12 or more, or else be cutoff from future supplies," the DOJ was wrong there too. Companies should be free to treat their customers and stores like ____, and do whatever is necessary to "win" and kill off the competition via monopolistic practices. Yes technically the record companies violated anti-cartel and price-fixing laws, but who what?
Heck the government shouldn't even be regulating monopolies like Baltimore Gas & Electric, or Bell Telephone. Let them charge the customers whatever they want. Yes they hold a monopoly but so what? It's their market and their right to do whatever they want.
Thanks Microsoft. How considerate of you to dirty-up my Windoze with Innerweb Exploder, just so I can download an alternative like Opera or Firefox or Safari.
I'm sure Microsoft could include a small FTP program in the "choose your browser" screen to go retrieve the browsers directly, but of course they don't want to do that. They want IE on there in hopes you'll use it someday.
That's..... interesting, but the fact was the so-called "true" 32-bit 68020 could still run older Amiga, Mac, and Atari ST 68000 software without modification, because the 68000 had been a 32-bit machine. (And the documentation that Motorola provides with the 68000 says 32 bit.)
Now compare to when IBM made the leap from 16 to 32 bit, which required a lot of kludging to make it work.
See Isaac Asimov for the exact quote, but it basically says robots may not harm humans. Because the law is encoded *in the hardware* there's no way that it can be altered.
>>>I think it goes to show what being personally involved and affected can do to job performance at the [government]
Fixed.
You think it's coincidence that the roads leading into and out of D.C. are the smoothest in the whole nation? People in power fix what affects them directly, give a passing notice when constituents complain, and ignore all else. (Which is a good argument for why power & politicians should be concentrated *at home*, rather than 2000 miles away in some central capital.)
>>>It's well known that when people try and guess/decide on perfect timing of the market, they lose money
It's also well-known that if I had invested in the market back in last summer (2008), I would have lost about half the value of my investment. In fact the stock I bought back in 2002 right now dipped below what I originally paid, and still hasn't recovered... so no net gain even though seven years have passed. I probably would have been better-off with simple interest savings account.
>>>Which is why no credible financial advisor
You mean those persons that worked for Lehman and other bankrupt firms? Yeah they are really trustworthy. (rolls eyes). I'd say YOU'RE a fool if you trust them.
Both you and the Article's quoted "expert" make a false assumption:
- I'm not really looking for realism in my games. If I was I'd play games where my soldier characters get shot and falls over. The end. Instead I play games that are deliberately non-realistic, where I can get shot 10,000 times, eat some food, and miraculously heal.
>>>OMG! some almost inconsequentially minor problem!!!
Every ad you look at is filled with people who don't really exist in the real world. They are computer creations. And they are used to deceive & suck money from consumer wallets. This is NOT a minor problem - it's a major one
I don't have a problem using Photoshop to create magazine covers or internal layouts.
I have a problem with Photoshop using imaginary, computer-created people to deceive & suck money out of consumer wallets. It should be banned from the ads, and if the result is uglier ads...... tough shit for the corporations.
>>>Advertising speech gets first amendment protection
Except in the following instances: (1) Corporations which are not human and therefore don't have human rights (IMHO). And (2) when the "free speech" violates truth-in-advertising laws and mislead the customer. For example you can't use free speech to claim your fuel magnet will make a care increase it's MPG by 50% when said product does not. Neither should you be able to display ultrathin women with big boobs that don't actually exist in the real world.
Print advertisers are held responsible for false claims made - like "lose 100 pounds in one day". Likewise the visual advertisers should be held responsible for showing people that don't actually exist in the real world.
>>>valid darkroom techniques, such as color adjustments, contrast, levels, dodge and burn, etc...
False advertising, false advertising, false advertising. If the image presented has been altered then it's misleading to the customer who is spending money. It's time for ads to show REAL people, not imaginary computer-created people. The alternative is not being able to believe what you see ("Did she really lose 50 pounds thanks to DietX Supplement, or is that just manipulation?")
Also if you hire a GOOD photographer he can avoid a lot of those color or "too dark" errors simply by adjusting the lighting, and double-checking the image as it appears on his LCD screen. No need for post-processing.
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>>>i will choose true wisdom by saying you have to pick a dividing line somewhere, and its arbitrary to some extent, but that's real life: messy and grey
>>>
A dividing line is good - but not when it's ridiculous. You can't drink until your 21, but you can go kill people (or die) in Afghanistan at 18? That's just frakked up and illogical.
>>>and besides moron, you don't think prosecutors and judges have leeway and understand where the law is imperfect and they should err on the side of compassion?
No.
Else we wouldn't see these repeated cases
of young adults being imprisoned because
they took nude photos of themselves.
>>>So arguably I'd say Macs are still included under this definition
Macs are not "IBM PC compatibles". They don't have the same BIOS, and also they evolved from a different genesis (Motorola 68000) than today's IBM PC/Wintel machines (8088) which have a direct lineage to that old machine.
(sigh)
"PC" is just an abbreviation for "IBM PC-compatible" and that has been the language convention since the mid-80s. Commodore v. IBM PC. Amiga v. PC. Macintosh (or Mac) v. PC. You weren't born yesterday and should know that PC and Mac are just abbreviations (unless you actually were born recently).
>>>the graphics really do look dated (what is that, CGA graphics flashback?), as well as the gameplay and sound effects (almost sounds like the simple PC speaker that we got rid of a long time ago, thank you very much).
>>>
Wrong on both points. CGA was only 4 colors and the PC speaker just went "beep". Starguard's hires multi-color graphics look similar to an 8-bit computer (Atari or Commodore) while the aural effects sound like they were sampled from an old Atari console (1977). And the game looks hella fun! You don't have to have blood-and-guts spilling all over the place to enjoy a game. Some of my favorite games of all time looked like Star Guard - the challenge comes from surviving the onslaught not from the T&A.
Go play Robotron to see what I mean.
>>>Standardizing the internet has absolutely *nothing* to do with this
Except it does. The guy I was replying to said, "Of course when they try to exchange tips with their other novice friends they won't be able to be cause they will all be running different browsers." If the web were standardized this would be a non-issue since 99% of the interaction is with the web itself, and should be identical in appearance/function across the board.
Also that guy's whole argument is ridiculous because it suggests all users should be using the same browser (i.e. Internet Explorer), so they can be on the same level. How dull and uninteresting. It's roughly equivalent to saying everyone should drive the same car, so they all have identical controls.
>>>"Click on the House to get to your home page" is what they remember. If there is no "house" they are lost.
Interesting. My browser just says "home" which is pretty self-explanatory.
The people of Maryland are getting price-gouged, and I don't see any VIABLE (keyword) competition rise-up and create electrical or natural gas alternatives to Baltimore G & E. Same with Microsoft.
I like to use Lynx. It let's me surf the net, while appearing to be doing work, thereby tricking the boss. It's also ridiculously fast and uses minimal bandwidth.
The only drawback is the 80-column limit. I wish there was a variant of Lynx that had no limit on how many columns appeared on the screen.
Really? So if I say "How considerate of you to dirty-up my Window 7 with Internet Explorer" does it alter the meaning? No. Not really. IE is still a door through which viruses leaked onto my XP system, and why I uninstalled it, and why I don't want it installed on my Win7 upgrade *at all*.
Anonymous COWARDS writes:
having the ballot as a webpage allows them to change the browser selection as required should download locations change
I thought of that too, but rejected it since Opera, Firefox, and Chrome would keep the web-location fixed, so as to remain compatible with the Win7 Browser Selection screen. If they did change the address then they'd be shooting themselves in their own foot. So hardcoding the FTP retrieval would be a non-issue.
In fact the current design with a webpage is dangerous to the EU's goal. 2-3 years from now Microsoft could change the browser website on purpose, to break the selection functionality, and just have Win7 install IE by default. The EU is unlikely to notice this deliberate sabotage.
You need to learn to think like a criminal, if you want to stop criminal behavior.
The proposal the EU accepted is too easy to undermine and sabotage.
Anonymous Coward writes
Because the functionality is already there. They're being good developers, you idiot. They don't want to reinvent the wheel just as much as we don't want to reinvent the wheel.
There's no need to install Innerweb Exploder, except the desire of the marketers to put that IE shortcut on the desktop. It would take less than a day to add the FTP functionality into the selection screen. "you idiot"
>>>Of course when they try to exchange tips with their other novice friends they won't be able to be cause they will all be running different browsers. This will make it much harder for the novice to become more proficient. And knowledgable users would very likely be forced to change browsers every time they logged onto a new machine. We would all be annoyed of course, but isn't that the ultimate goal of the "fairness" crowd?
>>>
Do you work for Microsoft?
That's the most-ridiculous argument I've ever heard, and shows clear pro-MS bias. If the web was standardized (and Microsoft bothered to follow these standards instead of being an arrogant "we don't need to follow rules"), then it wouldn't matter which browser you used. They'd all be pretty much alike in their interface to the web, only differing in how they organize their menus.
ALSO:
I can easily imagine an inexperienced user like my brother being scared-off by the numerous "Warning: You are visiting opera.com, an unrecognized and possibly dangerous site," and then deciding not to install Opera. It's equivalent to if I went to buy a Toyota and a bunch of signs popped-up and said, "Warning you are buying a foreign car which might be dangerous." It could lead me to run-away and go buy a Microsoft Ford Explorer instead.
P.S.
IE is an open door that lets viruses through. I was having a problem with viruses, and when I uninstalled IE, they disappeared. What a piece of crap program.
You're right. And when the U.S. DOJ fined the record companies for telling Walmart, Kmart, Target, and other stores, "You must sell these CDs are $12 or more, or else be cutoff from future supplies," the DOJ was wrong there too. Companies should be free to treat their customers and stores like ____, and do whatever is necessary to "win" and kill off the competition via monopolistic practices. Yes technically the record companies violated anti-cartel and price-fixing laws, but who what?
Heck the government shouldn't even be regulating monopolies like Baltimore Gas & Electric, or Bell Telephone. Let them charge the customers whatever they want. Yes they hold a monopoly but so what? It's their market and their right to do whatever they want.
Thanks Microsoft. How considerate of you to dirty-up my Windoze with Innerweb Exploder, just so I can download an alternative like Opera or Firefox or Safari.
I'm sure Microsoft could include a small FTP program in the "choose your browser" screen to go retrieve the browsers directly, but of course they don't want to do that. They want IE on there in hopes you'll use it someday.
>>>the ALU was only 16 bits
That's..... interesting, but the fact was the so-called "true" 32-bit 68020 could still run older Amiga, Mac, and Atari ST 68000 software without modification, because the 68000 had been a 32-bit machine. (And the documentation that Motorola provides with the 68000 says 32 bit.)
Now compare to when IBM made the leap from 16 to 32 bit, which required a lot of kludging to make it work.
See Isaac Asimov for the exact quote, but it basically says robots may not harm humans. Because the law is encoded *in the hardware* there's no way that it can be altered.
>>>I think it goes to show what being personally involved and affected can do to job performance at the [government]
Fixed.
You think it's coincidence that the roads leading into and out of D.C. are the smoothest in the whole nation? People in power fix what affects them directly, give a passing notice when constituents complain, and ignore all else. (Which is a good argument for why power & politicians should be concentrated *at home*, rather than 2000 miles away in some central capital.)
>>>It's well known that when people try and guess/decide on perfect timing of the market, they lose money
It's also well-known that if I had invested in the market back in last summer (2008), I would have lost about half the value of my investment. In fact the stock I bought back in 2002 right now dipped below what I originally paid, and still hasn't recovered... so no net gain even though seven years have passed. I probably would have been better-off with simple interest savings account.
>>>Which is why no credible financial advisor
You mean those persons that worked for Lehman and other bankrupt firms? Yeah they are really trustworthy. (rolls eyes). I'd say YOU'RE a fool if you trust them.
Perhaps I should have said Robespierre instead? (shrug). Even since 1871 France has had a rocky ride with its leaders.
Both you and the Article's quoted "expert" make a false assumption:
- I'm not really looking for realism in my games. If I was I'd play games where my soldier characters get shot and falls over. The end. Instead I play games that are deliberately non-realistic, where I can get shot 10,000 times, eat some food, and miraculously heal.
>>>OMG! some almost inconsequentially minor problem!!!
Every ad you look at is filled with people who don't really exist in the real world. They are computer creations. And they are used to deceive & suck money from consumer wallets. This is NOT a minor problem - it's a major one
I don't have a problem using Photoshop to create magazine covers or internal layouts.
I have a problem with Photoshop using imaginary, computer-created people to deceive & suck money out of consumer wallets. It should be banned from the ads, and if the result is uglier ads...... tough shit for the corporations.
>>>Advertising speech gets first amendment protection
Except in the following instances: (1) Corporations which are not human and therefore don't have human rights (IMHO). And (2) when the "free speech" violates truth-in-advertising laws and mislead the customer. For example you can't use free speech to claim your fuel magnet will make a care increase it's MPG by 50% when said product does not. Neither should you be able to display ultrathin women with big boobs that don't actually exist in the real world.
Print advertisers are held responsible for false claims made - like "lose 100 pounds in one day". Likewise the visual advertisers should be held responsible for showing people that don't actually exist in the real world.
>>>valid darkroom techniques, such as color adjustments, contrast, levels, dodge and burn, etc...
False advertising, false advertising, false advertising. If the image presented has been altered then it's misleading to the customer who is spending money. It's time for ads to show REAL people, not imaginary computer-created people. The alternative is not being able to believe what you see ("Did she really lose 50 pounds thanks to DietX Supplement, or is that just manipulation?")
Also if you hire a GOOD photographer he can avoid a lot of those color or "too dark" errors simply by adjusting the lighting, and double-checking the image as it appears on his LCD screen. No need for post-processing.