As a citizen of California, I can tell you that the "proposition" measures as they go now, are pretty pointless.
It's nearly impossible, as a citizen, to get an unbiased description of what these propositions mean. We're utterly bombarded with television ads representing either side of the issue, and the one that is able to slant the truth their way the best, through lies and misrepresentation, will win. It's easy for an individual to gather the correct information, and make a sound decision, but the masses listen to these TV commercials, and vote whatever they're told to. I'm suprised that some of these special interest groups haven't hired TV stars to speak on their behalf on these commercials, because it's all sensationalism, not real information.
It makes me more sceptical about democracy, and pushes me more towards supporting a more republic styled government. A democracy is only as smart as it's people. A person is smart. People are stupid, scared animals. Especially so, the American people.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Read this news story. http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/991130/bdz.html
It delivers a less biased view, and shows that MOST of the demonstrators WERE peaceful. It's only a small minority of agitators that are doing the window breaking. As with any group, it's easy to fall into the trap of judging the whole by a few bad eggs. But this is really a very diverse group. The WTO has managed to piss off a broad spectrum of people. Gee, I wonder how you do that, in a democratic nation?
Telling these people that they have no right to march, and that they ought to grease a politician is lunacy. We don't all have nice fat stock options, or mommy and daddy's trust fund to siphon off of. Some people need to work for a living. And they'd just like the opportunity to do so without being fucked-over by some dictatorial group that caters to big business' whims.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
``I've never seen any meeting of this sort so badly organized and mishandled,'' said one senior developing country ambassador who heads his delegation at the WTO in Geneva. ``I'm convinced the Americans have let this happen to reduce the time available for negotiation and make it easier for them to put pressure on us to give in on issues vital to us,'' he added.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Would one of these new planets be interesting enough for you if it was found to be cube-shaped?
Really, you should watch how fascinated a small child is by the consistency of oatmeal. Maybe that would lend some perpective. I sure hope my tax dollars aren't going to fund someone who doesn't find extrasolar planets, or a new asteroid interesting. If your an astronomer, it's YOUR JOB to find that stuff interesting. Is it not?
Or maybe you're just switching to decaf today.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
And if you DO have a baby on the way, make sure your OB knows your wishes about your information;
Or suddenly, you will be innundated with advertising materials from diaper manufacturers, formula producers, kiddie clothes, toys, books, magazines, all the paraphanalia. I don't know if it's done by the Hospital, or the insurance company or what, but once this happens, you're marked for life.
They even change the spam as your kids get older, you stop getting formula ads, and start getting babyfood ads, then toddler food ads, older kids clothes and toys, etc. What's next I wonder - college applications?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
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hm. maybe I should become a corporation.
More rights, less taxes to pay, and hey, power power power!
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Just like AOL, but your privacy preferences expire after 1 year. SO you must opt-out on a yearly basis.
Multiiply that by the number of ISP's, credit cards, and other services you have and companies you do business with, and that's a whole lotta opting-out you have to be responsible for. Especially if the policy changes to expire monthly, or if it's engineered to have a pain-in-the-ass user-interface (how do I find the damn opt-out page on your damn web site?), or if there's no way to VERIFY that your personal data wasn't sold off by this company regarless of your opt-out status, or if even you VERIFY that they did violate your wishes, there was an enforceable law with teeth that could be used by the consumer to recover damages, or deter corporations from doing this.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Well, they're talking about the possible MOONS of these planets, unfortunately, again, intelligent life is unlikely, IMO, because such moons would be subject to extreme tidal forces, radiation, etc. It's possible, but I think it wouldn't be as pleasant an environment as our homeworld has been.
The possibility of liquid water, and all the thoughts that follow that was just press fodder. The REAL interesting news is that a LOT of data is being gathered, and statements were made to the effect that it's only a matter of time before we gather enough data, with the present techniques, that we'll be able to detect smaller, earth-sized planets, which IMO would be FAR more likely to house intelligent life (when orbiting in the "goldilocks zone" - not too closely, not too far -from the star). This I find a FAR more encouraging bit of news on the possibility of intelligent life on other worlds, as opposed to this fantastic garbage about ewoks.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
the number 1 critical criterion necessary for any challenger to unseat MS Office as the #1 Office Suite is going to have to be, playing and beating Microsoft at "file-format tag".
I don't care if you're Office Suite is 5k, you pay each customer $1000 to load it on their machine, and it has a telepathic user interface. If it can't open and save in.doc and.xls, it will not win.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Apple Works 5 does.doc format IIRC. $99. Quick and painless too. It's a nice Office Suite.
OR
Give them the doc in.pdf. everyone has an Acrobat Reader. Except you poor linux folks. Someone should go down to Adobe HQ and beat them over the head with a stuffed penguin.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
I should put down that "Linux Unleashed" book, and pick up "IP Law for Dummies" - because it's the lawyers who are going to make all the money in "the new economy".
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Those well dispersed ground observers better have some good carrier pidgeons to tell HQ they saw something, because the first thing that's going to happen is EW attacks on the communication infrastructure. We're talking downed phone lines, jamming signals, etc.
That is IF these ground observers could SEE a black plane flying at night. If you've ever seen an F-117 at an airshow, you'll also note that except for directly behind, they are fairly quiet.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
A stinger could not catch a Minuteman III. It would be like sending a Piper Cub against an F-16.
We're talking about a missile that has a maximum speed of about mach 4, maximum altitude of about 20,000 feet, against a missile that has a maximum speed of about mach 25, and an altitude of about 500,000 feet. There might be a window of opportunity within about the first 5 seconds of launch, but you'd have to be within a few hundred yards of the launch site, and I don't believe there's any unsecured real estate that close to any launch silo.
A task like that would take some serious AA firepower, like a Hawk or Patriot.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
hm. You seem to be forgetting the EU French/British Beef row.
The Brits are trying to use the EU to force France to buy their BSE-infected beef. How would you like to be a French citizen, knowing now that beef you buy, could be from Argentina (good), the US (THE BEST!!!), or from Britain - yet unidentified by label on the shelf. (okay all you Vegans just shut the hell up for a minute), as a consumer, you don't know if your product is more likely to be infected with BSE or not. As a citizen, you know you're countrymen all oppose importation of British beef, you know you government WANTS to protect you, as a soveriegn French citizen. You also know that as a EU citizen, you're FORCED to obey rules by a "greater power", who says that the people don't know anything, that they're just panicked sheep, and they've been listening to too much environmental leftist propaganda, and that for "the good of the union", that they should be buddy-buddy with the Brits and accept the tainted beef.
If anybody out there thinks that this is okay - then you deserve to be infected with BSE.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Dude! That's messed up. MTBE is harsh. I'm packin' my Vanagon, and headed North!
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Does anyone know FOR A FACT that the police fired rubber bullets?
The press has been saying that the official police statement is that no rubber bullets have been fired AT ALL (as of 6pm Nov 30).
If anyone can say that they have firsthand knowledge disputing that statement (seen with their own two eyes), then speak up please.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
As a citizen of California, I can tell you that the "proposition" measures as they go now, are pretty pointless.
It's nearly impossible, as a citizen, to get an unbiased description of what these propositions mean. We're utterly bombarded with television ads representing either side of the issue, and the one that is able to slant the truth their way the best, through lies and misrepresentation, will win. It's easy for an individual to gather the correct information, and make a sound decision, but the masses listen to these TV commercials, and vote whatever they're told to. I'm suprised that some of these special interest groups haven't hired TV stars to speak on their behalf on these commercials, because it's all sensationalism, not real information.
It makes me more sceptical about democracy, and pushes me more towards supporting a more republic styled government. A democracy is only as smart as it's people. A person is smart. People are stupid, scared animals. Especially so, the American people.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
You've fallen for a big load of slanted bullshit.
Read this news story.
http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/991130/bdz.html
It delivers a less biased view, and shows that MOST of the demonstrators WERE peaceful. It's only a small minority of agitators that are doing the window breaking. As with any group, it's easy to fall into the trap of judging the whole by a few bad eggs. But this is really a very diverse group.
The WTO has managed to piss off a broad spectrum of people. Gee, I wonder how you do that, in a democratic nation?
Telling these people that they have no right to march, and that they ought to grease a politician is lunacy. We don't all have nice fat stock options, or mommy and daddy's trust fund to siphon off of. Some people need to work for a living. And they'd just like the opportunity to do so without being fucked-over by some dictatorial group that caters to big business' whims.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
It's like those morons who buy a Honda Civic HF, and slap V-Tec stickers all over them.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Heh, another "conspiracy theory":
_ leadall_27.html
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19991130/ts/wto
``I've never seen any meeting of this sort so badly organized and mishandled,'' said one senior developing country ambassador who heads his delegation at the WTO in Geneva.
``I'm convinced the Americans have let this happen to reduce the time available for negotiation and make it easier for them to put pressure on us to give in on issues vital to us,'' he added.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
What about light from stars transmitted through these reverse-time regions? Will it go backwards? (ie. reflect back towards the source)
In that case, we would be seeing large reflective regions of space in the night sky, right?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Would one of these new planets be interesting enough for you if it was found to be cube-shaped?
Really, you should watch how fascinated a small child is by the consistency of oatmeal. Maybe that would lend some perpective. I sure hope my tax dollars aren't going to fund someone who doesn't find extrasolar planets, or a new asteroid interesting. If your an astronomer, it's YOUR JOB to find that stuff interesting. Is it not?
Or maybe you're just switching to decaf today.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
And if you DO have a baby on the way, make sure your OB knows your wishes about your information;
Or suddenly, you will be innundated with advertising materials from diaper manufacturers, formula producers, kiddie clothes, toys, books, magazines, all the paraphanalia. I don't know if it's done by the Hospital, or the insurance company or what, but once this happens, you're marked for life.
They even change the spam as your kids get older, you stop getting formula ads, and start getting babyfood ads, then toddler food ads, older kids clothes and toys, etc. What's next I wonder - college applications?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
hm. maybe I should become a corporation.
More rights, less taxes to pay, and hey, power power power!
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Yeah, sure you can Opt-out.
Just like AOL, but your privacy preferences expire after 1 year. SO you must opt-out on a yearly basis.
Multiiply that by the number of ISP's, credit cards, and other services you have and companies you do business with, and that's a whole lotta opting-out you have to be responsible for. Especially if the policy changes to expire monthly, or if it's engineered to have a pain-in-the-ass user-interface (how do I find the damn opt-out page on your damn web site?), or if there's no way to VERIFY that your personal data wasn't sold off by this company regarless of your opt-out status, or if even you VERIFY that they did violate your wishes, there was an enforceable law with teeth that could be used by the consumer to recover damages, or deter corporations from doing this.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
I think that all of these planets should be named "John Malkovich".
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Well, they're talking about the possible MOONS of these planets, unfortunately, again, intelligent life is unlikely, IMO, because such moons would be subject to extreme tidal forces, radiation, etc. It's possible, but I think it wouldn't be as pleasant an environment as our homeworld has been.
The possibility of liquid water, and all the thoughts that follow that was just press fodder. The REAL interesting news is that a LOT of data is being gathered, and statements were made to the effect that it's only a matter of time before we gather enough data, with the present techniques, that we'll be able to detect smaller, earth-sized planets, which IMO would be FAR more likely to house intelligent life (when orbiting in the "goldilocks zone" - not too closely, not too far -from the star). This I find a FAR more encouraging bit of news on the possibility of intelligent life on other worlds, as opposed to this fantastic garbage about ewoks.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
heh, that WordPerfect feather was a LOT more expensive when Novell bought them.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
the number 1 critical criterion necessary for any challenger to unseat MS Office as the #1 Office Suite is going to have to be, playing and beating Microsoft at "file-format tag".
.doc and .xls, it will not win.
I don't care if you're Office Suite is 5k, you pay each customer $1000 to load it on their machine, and it has a telepathic user interface. If it can't open and save in
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
oops
my bad.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Apple Works 5 does .doc format IIRC. $99. Quick and painless too. It's a nice Office Suite.
.pdf. everyone has an Acrobat Reader. Except you poor linux folks. Someone should go down to Adobe HQ and beat them over the head with a stuffed penguin.
OR
Give them the doc in
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
It must gall you that they support Solaris/Sparc, and Linux/x86, but not Linux/Sparc.
Then again, do they support Solaris/x86?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Obviously, I've chosen the wrong career.
I should put down that "Linux Unleashed" book, and pick up "IP Law for Dummies" - because it's the lawyers who are going to make all the money in "the new economy".
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
This is why attacks with stealth fighters are preceeded by cruise missiles which take out the power plants, which power the tv stations.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
my brother in law shot Hawks for the USMC, and he told me stories about you radar techs and seagulls. . .
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Those well dispersed ground observers better have some good carrier pidgeons to tell HQ they saw something, because the first thing that's going to happen is EW attacks on the communication infrastructure. We're talking downed phone lines, jamming signals, etc.
That is IF these ground observers could SEE a black plane flying at night.
If you've ever seen an F-117 at an airshow, you'll also note that except for directly behind, they are fairly quiet.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
A stinger could not catch a Minuteman III. It would be like sending a Piper Cub against an F-16.
We're talking about a missile that has a maximum speed of about mach 4, maximum altitude of about 20,000 feet, against a missile that has a maximum speed of about mach 25, and an altitude of about 500,000 feet. There might be a window of opportunity within about the first 5 seconds of launch, but you'd have to be within a few hundred yards of the launch site, and I don't believe there's any unsecured real estate that close to any launch silo.
A task like that would take some serious AA firepower, like a Hawk or Patriot.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
So this means I won't have to pay California state income tax anymore?
ALL RIGHT! Where do I sign up?
(ps. to Echelon people; this is a JOKE! okay? I'll be stacking up sandbags in my front yard against the Red Menace. . . )
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
hm. You seem to be forgetting the EU French/British Beef row.
The Brits are trying to use the EU to force France to buy their BSE-infected beef.
How would you like to be a French citizen, knowing now that beef you buy, could be from Argentina (good), the US (THE BEST!!!), or from Britain - yet unidentified by label on the shelf. (okay all you Vegans just shut the hell up for a minute), as a consumer, you don't know if your product is more likely to be infected with BSE or not. As a citizen, you know you're countrymen all oppose importation of British beef, you know you government WANTS to protect you, as a soveriegn French citizen. You also know that as a EU citizen, you're FORCED to obey rules by a "greater power", who says that the people don't know anything, that they're just panicked sheep, and they've been listening to too much environmental leftist propaganda, and that for "the good of the union", that they should be buddy-buddy with the Brits and accept the tainted beef.
If anybody out there thinks that this is okay - then you deserve to be infected with BSE.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".