And when housing prices in and near the big cities go back down at least relatively speaking, then you will likely see a reversal of that trend.
Um, chances are that will NOT happen. Housing prices may flatten or even dip for a short while, but the historical trend of seriously rising home values will continue. A great example is even during the dot-bomb crash, the whole Bay Area still experienced massive housing price inflation. The problem is that housing has become a scarce resource. Buildable vacant land in Chicago is *gone* and has been gone for years so in order to handle population growth, distant suburbs sprawl. The problem is mirrored all over the country in every single large city. Any large vibrant community or community within commute distance to a vibrant community has significant housing price inflation.
Theo is essentially taking the position that personal information is tantamount to currency, and therefore, requesting personal info is tantamount to charging...
I think you are taking it too far. It's much more simplistic than that.
Open means just that: Open. By using a closed registration-required access system, it's not open.
Given our current government's "anti-terrorism" activities which is turning the US into a police state, is VERY likely that companies will be required to devulge this registration information to the FBI for investigation (it may already be happening.) Hell, when even your library reading habits are under government scrutiny, is it a stretch to go there?
I got your point perfectly. You just seem confused.
Users of GPL code benefit from the work of others. In turn, under the GPL, the others benefit from derivitive works. It's the community giving back to the community. There are other licenses that allow coders to take the work of others and sell it, giving NOTHING back to the community such as the BSD license. MS likes BSD because it's a one way street. There is nothing wrong with BSD and nothing wrong with GPL.
GPL code is the toys that they (MS and Joe Coder) are not allowed to play with unless they are willing to share their toys too and play nice with others. MS doesn't like this and is throwing a temper tantrum. It's that simple. Get it now?
You are making the same irrational argument GPL FUDsters always make. If you don't want to adhear to the terms of the GPL, don't use GPL code. Period. It is perfectly reasonable and possible to create your own libraries and applications that are not GPL and run them / sell them on Linux. There are MANY MANY examples of this. The GPL is not stopping Microsoft or anyone else from supporting Linux or other non-windows operating systems. The GPL is what the GPL is. It is ONE and ONLY ONE license available for open source software. There are many others.
But you ignored my original point. MS has NO INTEREST in supporting ANY kind of open source effort in any way shape or form. They have proven it by their past statements and actions. They have refused to play nice in every standards organization and interoperability effort. Sender-ID is one example. Open Doc is another. Restrictive "anti-oss" licenses on documentation and code. Refusing to release basic protocol documentation in violation of agreements with the EU. I could go on and on and on. Any talk Microsoft spews is just that: talk. It's all one sided with MS. Do things our way. Bend to our will. You must change, not us. That attitude and behavior is going to get them NOWHERE with the OSS community. They KNOW this. This "new" effort is just another PR FUD scheme. The MS schills will all hail this as "an opening up", "embracing" move. Bullcookies.
Here is what MS would do if they wanted cooperation with the OSS world: - Eliminate the license for Sender-ID and offer a non-revokable license to use any related patents - Release full documentation for CIFS and the active-directory extensions they made to Kerberos, again with nolicense or patent restrictions - Release full documentation to the Word / Excel / Powerpoint binary file formats, and adopt opendoc - Fully support PNG and modern w3c web standards (css2, etc.)... And I sure others could chime in with other fine examples - both of what they are doing to inhibit OSS and what they could do to support it.
When MS stops doing stupid shit like requiring a license for Sender-ID, THEN we know they are serious.
The onus is on Microsoft's side to change - not on the GPL's side. Talk is not change.
Why did I bring up Sender-ID? Because it's a prime example of how non-GPL and GPL applications interact, without even getting into compiling and linking issues.
Nice flamebait. Apple doesn't charge for service packs - they charge for major releases just as MS does. They just don't pretend it's all new and totally change the version numbering and naming scheme like MS does. It's also less expensive - especially for multiple computers with the family pack availablilty ($200 for 5 licenses.) Not saying that Apple is perfect, but at least they don't have "activation" and "WGA" either.
Actually, blacklists and blocking entire class A spaces still works QUITE well, and will continue to work well for a long time. 90% of my spam is blocked by blacklists before it even hits spamassassin. If I didn't blacklist and just ran everything through spamassassin, I'd need another 5 mail servers. Spamassassin is nice, but is a CPU pig. It is MUCH easier and more cost-effective to whitelist as needed for individual machines / domains / addresses inside a blacklisted zone.
Maybe you are bitter because you have been blacklisted...
For years teachers have ben beating up (through the massive power of the NEA) local governments for awesome benefits.
So the starting salary may be $23K, but then: it's nearly impossible to fire a teacher with tenure, the typical work day is less than 8 hours (8 - 3:30 is in the contract), they have a HUGE number of "day's off", they have a huge number of "sick days" (our teachers have 90 days a year they can use!!!!) and the health / retirement benefits add up to another $30K-40K per year! They don't have a typical HMO, no way. They have the best care our tax dollars can buy (but which very very few in the private sector can afford.) Teachers also have guaranteed raises for COLA and time of service.
So no, I don't feel sorry for our teachers. They have bargained away base salary for all sorts of extra perks. If they want extra salary, they have to give up some benefits.
Are you high? You can't GET to an appeal unless you can afford the trial in the first place.
I have a case where our city violated the city charter and our groups state mandated (in the constitution) right to call for a referendum to override a city council decision. Guess what - it will cost us about $10K to START a lawsuit, and probably 50 - 100K to fight it. We don't have that kind of money as a small group so our rights get violated and there is NOTHING we can do.
Money is THE MAIN factor in MOST cases. If you don't have money, you can't even BEGIN the fight. To YOU, the person receiving a check, $100K may not seem like a lot of money. To our group? It's impossible. We can't even go to the ACLU - they are too busy on important issues like NAMBLA's right to molest young boys, attacking boyscouts, and attacking anything religous.
I know all I need to know about the law: It only works for those with money (or those with a law degree and license to practice.)
Anyway, the bottom line is that those with money can drag trials out for YEARS and YEARS. Hell, they can keep things so tied up in the process that the trial never even starts! Case in point: SCO versus IBM. If IBM didn't have the massivly deep pockets they do, and instead was a small 10 person company, they would be so DEAD by now.
It comes down to money. The private individual in most cases (I would bet at least 99.99%) does not have enough money to properly defend himself against the corporation (or mount an attack for that matter, as we saw in this case.) Your home-town lawyer is NOTHING against the billion dollar law firms large corps. use (not to mention their in-house legal staff.)
We probably need laws that allow for X times damages and expenses when an individual or company has X times the financial / legal resources of the opponent and loses. It would encourage much more pro-bono activity and more corporate responsibility. Not even 100% of the "extra" penalty needs to go to the winner - some could be used to offset the court costs / infrastructure that we taxpayers pay for.
Or the other option: get the anal probe at Customs. Seriously, this is just going to be a major slowdown when you get to the US. Customs agents will STILL require the exact same information.
Oh please. You seriously want me to believe that one man's theory is fact???
The anti-evolution campaign is a small fringe group that is very loud, but has very little REAL power. Time and time again they are slapped down by the supreme court.
1) HIGHLY doubt that at this point humans will become extinct. It would take our entire planet blowing up. I would anticipate that we would be in space far before that happens. Even a total all-out nuclear war wouldn't kill 100% of people. We would easily as a race be able to survive the kinds of thing that killed the dino's off. Now that doesn't mean that we wouldn't lose 90% or even 99% of the population, but the scientific part of the race will survive.
2) Look at plagues. They never infected 100% of the population. Again, you may cause a problem in 90%, but not all.
3) We have never had a stabke structure, and had all sorts of scientific advancement. Even in a "anti-science" stable social structure, you will always have a few "rebels" that will continue on. Again, I claim "human nature" for this (and have history to back it up.)
4) There is no evidence of this. Archeologists would have found signs of any past "advanced" age in history. They haven't.
I think that you will find modern human civilization a lot more resilient than you seem to believe that it is.
Yep. I think the parent things that we were all running around in furs, digging with sticks and stones, and living in caves back in the 1700's.
Science builds upon the works of others. Communication is a huge part of that which is one reason the chinese mathematitions work was unknown to western civilization for so long. Seriously, what ARE they teaching kids in schools today? It must be all global warming and gay tolerance or something because the majority of grads don't seem to know much else. Certainly not history...
When we are talking timelines of 1,000 or 1,000,000 years, any kind of "blip" that happens in human advancement will be short term. Serious science is perpetual. It's part of human nature. You don't need 100% of the people advancing science - you never had that. It's more like 0.0001% of the people.
I think the issue was that these laptops don't have the resources to run OS X. As is, they run a stripped down version of Linux.
Plus it has somthing to do with OS X not being open source. You want the people in these developing countries being able to take this system and make it do things the development team never thought of. Linux being open source allows for this. For the same reason, Windows CE is inappropriate.
The answer is that there isn't an Asterisk module at this time. If you were running Asterisk on your desktop, then the "interception" of the call by zphone would work. If you are running Asterisk on a server (as most installations do), then no, it won't work (unless you are running the zphone GUI on the server itself - not a realistic option.)
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Well, I don't want to be 6 again, lack of sex would suck. Oh wait - most /.'ers don't know about sex yet... Did I let the secret out?
And when housing prices in and near the big cities go back down at least relatively speaking, then you will likely see a reversal of that trend.
Um, chances are that will NOT happen. Housing prices may flatten or even dip for a short while, but the historical trend of seriously rising home values will continue. A great example is even during the dot-bomb crash, the whole Bay Area still experienced massive housing price inflation. The problem is that housing has become a scarce resource. Buildable vacant land in Chicago is *gone* and has been gone for years so in order to handle population growth, distant suburbs sprawl. The problem is mirrored all over the country in every single large city. Any large vibrant community or community within commute distance to a vibrant community has significant housing price inflation.
Theo is essentially taking the position that personal information is tantamount to currency, and therefore, requesting personal info is tantamount to charging...
I think you are taking it too far. It's much more simplistic than that.
Open means just that: Open. By using a closed registration-required access system, it's not open.
Given our current government's "anti-terrorism" activities which is turning the US into a police state, is VERY likely that companies will be required to devulge this registration information to the FBI for investigation (it may already be happening.) Hell, when even your library reading habits are under government scrutiny, is it a stretch to go there?
I got your point perfectly. You just seem confused.
Users of GPL code benefit from the work of others. In turn, under the GPL, the others benefit from derivitive works. It's the community giving back to the community. There are other licenses that allow coders to take the work of others and sell it, giving NOTHING back to the community such as the BSD license. MS likes BSD because it's a one way street. There is nothing wrong with BSD and nothing wrong with GPL.
GPL code is the toys that they (MS and Joe Coder) are not allowed to play with unless they are willing to share their toys too and play nice with others. MS doesn't like this and is throwing a temper tantrum. It's that simple. Get it now?
You are making the same irrational argument GPL FUDsters always make. If you don't want to adhear to the terms of the GPL, don't use GPL code. Period. It is perfectly reasonable and possible to create your own libraries and applications that are not GPL and run them / sell them on Linux. There are MANY MANY examples of this. The GPL is not stopping Microsoft or anyone else from supporting Linux or other non-windows operating systems. The GPL is what the GPL is. It is ONE and ONLY ONE license available for open source software. There are many others.
... And I sure others could chime in with other fine examples - both of what they are doing to inhibit OSS and what they could do to support it.
But you ignored my original point. MS has NO INTEREST in supporting ANY kind of open source effort in any way shape or form. They have proven it by their past statements and actions. They have refused to play nice in every standards organization and interoperability effort. Sender-ID is one example. Open Doc is another. Restrictive "anti-oss" licenses on documentation and code. Refusing to release basic protocol documentation in violation of agreements with the EU. I could go on and on and on. Any talk Microsoft spews is just that: talk. It's all one sided with MS. Do things our way. Bend to our will. You must change, not us. That attitude and behavior is going to get them NOWHERE with the OSS community. They KNOW this. This "new" effort is just another PR FUD scheme. The MS schills will all hail this as "an opening up", "embracing" move. Bullcookies.
Here is what MS would do if they wanted cooperation with the OSS world:
- Eliminate the license for Sender-ID and offer a non-revokable license to use any related patents
- Release full documentation for CIFS and the active-directory extensions they made to Kerberos, again with nolicense or patent restrictions
- Release full documentation to the Word / Excel / Powerpoint binary file formats, and adopt opendoc
- Fully support PNG and modern w3c web standards (css2, etc.)
When MS stops doing stupid shit like requiring a license for Sender-ID, THEN we know they are serious.
The onus is on Microsoft's side to change - not on the GPL's side. Talk is not change.
Why did I bring up Sender-ID? Because it's a prime example of how non-GPL and GPL applications interact, without even getting into compiling and linking issues.
Nice flamebait. Apple doesn't charge for service packs - they charge for major releases just as MS does. They just don't pretend it's all new and totally change the version numbering and naming scheme like MS does. It's also less expensive - especially for multiple computers with the family pack availablilty ($200 for 5 licenses.) Not saying that Apple is perfect, but at least they don't have "activation" and "WGA" either.
Actually, blacklists and blocking entire class A spaces still works QUITE well, and will continue to work well for a long time. 90% of my spam is blocked by blacklists before it even hits spamassassin. If I didn't blacklist and just ran everything through spamassassin, I'd need another 5 mail servers. Spamassassin is nice, but is a CPU pig. It is MUCH easier and more cost-effective to whitelist as needed for individual machines / domains / addresses inside a blacklisted zone.
Maybe you are bitter because you have been blacklisted...
For years teachers have ben beating up (through the massive power of the NEA) local governments for awesome benefits.
So the starting salary may be $23K, but then: it's nearly impossible to fire a teacher with tenure, the typical work day is less than 8 hours (8 - 3:30 is in the contract), they have a HUGE number of "day's off", they have a huge number of "sick days" (our teachers have 90 days a year they can use!!!!) and the health / retirement benefits add up to another $30K-40K per year! They don't have a typical HMO, no way. They have the best care our tax dollars can buy (but which very very few in the private sector can afford.) Teachers also have guaranteed raises for COLA and time of service.
So no, I don't feel sorry for our teachers. They have bargained away base salary for all sorts of extra perks. If they want extra salary, they have to give up some benefits.
VMWare.
Ditch the extra power-sucking hardware.
Lets put it another way...
How many computers does google have?
How easy would it be to setup a low priority cracking job on their server farm?
How much trust do you want to put in a company that has proven it will cooperate with the government when pressured - even just a little pressure?
Are you high? You can't GET to an appeal unless you can afford the trial in the first place.
I have a case where our city violated the city charter and our groups state mandated (in the constitution) right to call for a referendum to override a city council decision. Guess what - it will cost us about $10K to START a lawsuit, and probably 50 - 100K to fight it. We don't have that kind of money as a small group so our rights get violated and there is NOTHING we can do.
Money is THE MAIN factor in MOST cases. If you don't have money, you can't even BEGIN the fight. To YOU, the person receiving a check, $100K may not seem like a lot of money. To our group? It's impossible. We can't even go to the ACLU - they are too busy on important issues like NAMBLA's right to molest young boys, attacking boyscouts, and attacking anything religous.
I know all I need to know about the law: It only works for those with money (or those with a law degree and license to practice.)
Anyway, the bottom line is that those with money can drag trials out for YEARS and YEARS. Hell, they can keep things so tied up in the process that the trial never even starts! Case in point: SCO versus IBM. If IBM didn't have the massivly deep pockets they do, and instead was a small 10 person company, they would be so DEAD by now.
Yeah, but awards like the McDonalds coffee one are Very Very rare. For every one of those there are probably a thousand of the other variety.
It comes down to money. The private individual in most cases (I would bet at least 99.99%) does not have enough money to properly defend himself against the corporation (or mount an attack for that matter, as we saw in this case.) Your home-town lawyer is NOTHING against the billion dollar law firms large corps. use (not to mention their in-house legal staff.)
We probably need laws that allow for X times damages and expenses when an individual or company has X times the financial / legal resources of the opponent and loses. It would encourage much more pro-bono activity and more corporate responsibility. Not even 100% of the "extra" penalty needs to go to the winner - some could be used to offset the court costs / infrastructure that we taxpayers pay for.
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Or the other option: get the anal probe at Customs. Seriously, this is just going to be a major slowdown when you get to the US. Customs agents will STILL require the exact same information.
Oh please. You seriously want me to believe that one man's theory is fact???
The anti-evolution campaign is a small fringe group that is very loud, but has very little REAL power. Time and time again they are slapped down by the supreme court.
1) HIGHLY doubt that at this point humans will become extinct. It would take our entire planet blowing up. I would anticipate that we would be in space far before that happens. Even a total all-out nuclear war wouldn't kill 100% of people. We would easily as a race be able to survive the kinds of thing that killed the dino's off. Now that doesn't mean that we wouldn't lose 90% or even 99% of the population, but the scientific part of the race will survive.
2) Look at plagues. They never infected 100% of the population. Again, you may cause a problem in 90%, but not all.
3) We have never had a stabke structure, and had all sorts of scientific advancement. Even in a "anti-science" stable social structure, you will always have a few "rebels" that will continue on. Again, I claim "human nature" for this (and have history to back it up.)
4) There is no evidence of this. Archeologists would have found signs of any past "advanced" age in history. They haven't.
I think that you will find modern human civilization a lot more resilient than you seem to believe that it is.
Yep. I think the parent things that we were all running around in furs, digging with sticks and stones, and living in caves back in the 1700's.
Science builds upon the works of others. Communication is a huge part of that which is one reason the chinese mathematitions work was unknown to western civilization for so long. Seriously, what ARE they teaching kids in schools today? It must be all global warming and gay tolerance or something because the majority of grads don't seem to know much else. Certainly not history...
He didn't say that there are an infinate number of INTEGERS between two other INTEGERS, he said NUMBERS.
Are you just trolling???
When we are talking timelines of 1,000 or 1,000,000 years, any kind of "blip" that happens in human advancement will be short term. Serious science is perpetual. It's part of human nature. You don't need 100% of the people advancing science - you never had that. It's more like 0.0001% of the people.
It runs under wine.
I think the issue was that these laptops don't have the resources to run OS X. As is, they run a stripped down version of Linux.
Plus it has somthing to do with OS X not being open source. You want the people in these developing countries being able to take this system and make it do things the development team never thought of. Linux being open source allows for this. For the same reason, Windows CE is inappropriate.
Well, I for one would much prefer that the taxes we pay be used for roads that we USE than the study of cow farts.
The answer is that there isn't an Asterisk module at this time. If you were running Asterisk on your desktop, then the "interception" of the call by zphone would work. If you are running Asterisk on a server (as most installations do), then no, it won't work (unless you are running the zphone GUI on the server itself - not a realistic option.)