Years of spyware, it's no suprise that they couldn't get it cleaned. How is this any different than a kernel trojan on linux? Reimaging sometimes is the only solution.
Well, leaving aside for the moment the question of how they got physical access to my boot media and altered it:
If I know the trojan is in the kernel, why not just reimage the kernel?
Reboot from a known clean kernel image. The system is now back to running normally. Replace the old kernel image with the new, check your boot script against a known good copy (which is human readable and editable. No registry to hide things in); and the next time you choose to reboot for some reason or other the system runs from that new image.
You have extropolated some half knowledge into the realm of ignorance.
I have been involved in the arts "industry" for more than 40 years. I have done stage, film and live musical performance, as well as some recording and publishing. I founded the corporation that currently owns the oldest folk music venue in the United States, served on its board of directors and managed its events. I currently derive about half of my income from live musical performance.
And you are, very simply, wrong.
No license is required to play or listen to recorded music. A license is required for public performance of protected works, as public performance is defined by law. No license is required to attend the performance (as in turning on your radio). Your DJ falls under the umbrella of the legal definition of public performance, but he does not require the license under most circumstances, the venue in which he performs does. You, putting on a CD at home, do not fall under the umbrella of the legal definition of public performance.
You do not need a license to simply play a CD, turn on your TV, or read a script for your own entertainment. First the courts and then explicit code have held this for over 100 years.
If you do not believe me read the license agreement included with your software and compare it to the license agreement included with your CDs or videos.
It has always been so - indeed, you say as much later on ("We pay for the rights to listen to that music"). When you buy a CD, you are purchasing a licence which grants you the right to listen to the music contained on that CD.
No, you are not. No license is required to listen to music, read a book or watch a performance.
A license is only needed to copy works covered by copyright. The publisher of the CD is the only one who requires a license.
When you buy a CD you are, very simply, acquiring a piece of property.
you are all not reading it. yes, its a basis for networking, but when the word "communications" is used in IT, its implying voice devices or some form of voice communication device.
a)No it isn't
b)The relevant definition isn't that used in IT anyway, it's the definition in law.
That was the original philosophy, yes, but has since been explicitly denied by the Berne Convention Treaty to which the US is signatory. Copies required for the normal use of software do not require a license. It is a form of fair use. Yet the EULAs and the concept of licensing software remain so as not to upset an "industry" that was created by the concept before the law caught up to it.
Sounds like a music biz lawyer has suddenly found an ignorant fucktard in Congress and is trying to pull one over.
A car's fuel pump is like your heart and its carb is like your lungs. The Model T Ford didn't have a fuel pump, positioning the gas tank higher than the carb and relying on gravity for fuel flow. That meant that on particularly steep uphills fuel flow could actually stop. Drivers would have to climb them in reverse.
You would think this would be a major disability, but I knew a man who drove a Model T all his life; and yet this man could play the banjo as well as anyone I ever knew.
I'm sorry, you'll have to come up with a car analogy.
The best value in a car is a two year old used, third year of the model, but avoid the models favored by teenage street racers. They're innately overpriced for what you get and no matter how shiney the paint the internals have had the shit beat out of them.
Unless you spend several hundred dollars every few years, you get way behind the curve.
What's wrong with staying way behind the curve? It's the same tech, the same games, the same everything over time, except that you get those who think there is some important value to being at the leading edge of the curve to finance your gaming for you.
Your problem isn't tech, or money . ..it's envy.
Remember, the best ride is on the face of the wave.
Define "traditionally." Normally that word is reserved for a long-term scope. ..
It isn't a question of time scope, per se, but the very meaning of the word, because it means "from the hand," to be passed on and not merely a historical fact.
You "get" tradition and you, in turn, "give" tradition, but it doesn't "just happen." The proper word would have been "historically,"
KFG
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Until recently the US still dominated manufacturing of PC CPUs, but times change:
VIA also has certain long range plans for the market dominance of Intel and AMD.
I had a Brother word processor, made in something like 1991,and it had a sticker "Made in USA from domestic parts"
1991 called. They want their sticker back. When I reached the age of majority I could be virtually certain when buying a mass produced commercial product that I could not only find one that had been made in the USA, but at least partially in my own area.
Now I think it's down to soda and soft luggage and the soft luggage is purely by chance.
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The obverse is also true. For every law that is repealed new, legal business opportunities open up.
But the old businesses might squeal like stuck pigs about it.
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If the networks can no longer count on people watching at least some ads, how are they to pay for content? The day most people have "auto-commercial-skip" is the day advertisers stop paying to be a part of the program.
I have a friend who inteneded to do a Master's thesis on television advertising. She had to abondon it. It turns out she could not watch television advertising, even when she wanted to, because her brain had been trained to auto-skip them.
She is an extreme example, but we all mentally (or even physically) auto-skip advertising to one extent or another and the advertising industry is already painfully aware that most of their effort has no effect.
You cannot create effective advertising by force.
. ..you need to put down emotion and maybe start coming up with reasonable alternative business models . ..
If he is not in the industry that is not his responsibility.
. ..if you want to see devices like this suceed.
Then don't pass new and oppressive laws banning them for no reason other than supporting a business model which has no place in codified law.
While the IT field certainly requires a lot of experience, 80% of it is routine.
Of course it is, especially if you are running a retail chain, as opposed to an engineering and technology company.
I'm intrigued by some of the comments in the article quoting abuse of telecommuting, washing dishes and driving tractors during conference calls.
This is the sort of thing that telecommuting is supposed to allow. Sitting on the frickin' beach during a conference call is the meme for telecommuting. The comments smack of control issues, not job performance issues. The manager has an image of "professional behavior" that he wants applied to telecommuters as if they were actually in the office.
And the part of IT that requires conference calls is the 20% that is not routine.
Given the fact that you posted it I have to presume that you are unaware of the fact that your post is a reasonably good example of why this contest is a good idea and the sponsoring organization is necessary.
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Or only bring the time travellers in from the 1960s -- they'd be the ones weirded out.
Tell me about it.
KFG
Years of spyware, it's no suprise that they couldn't get it cleaned. How is this any different than a kernel trojan on linux? Reimaging sometimes is the only solution.
Well, leaving aside for the moment the question of how they got physical access to my boot media and altered it:
If I know the trojan is in the kernel, why not just reimage the kernel?
Reboot from a known clean kernel image. The system is now back to running normally. Replace the old kernel image with the new, check your boot script against a known good copy (which is human readable and editable. No registry to hide things in); and the next time you choose to reboot for some reason or other the system runs from that new image.
Where's the deep recovery problem?
KFG
You have extropolated some half knowledge into the realm of ignorance.
I have been involved in the arts "industry" for more than 40 years. I have done stage, film and live musical performance, as well as some recording and publishing. I founded the corporation that currently owns the oldest folk music venue in the United States, served on its board of directors and managed its events. I currently derive about half of my income from live musical performance.
And you are, very simply, wrong.
No license is required to play or listen to recorded music. A license is required for public performance of protected works, as public performance is defined by law. No license is required to attend the performance (as in turning on your radio). Your DJ falls under the umbrella of the legal definition of public performance, but he does not require the license under most circumstances, the venue in which he performs does. You, putting on a CD at home, do not fall under the umbrella of the legal definition of public performance.
You do not need a license to simply play a CD, turn on your TV, or read a script for your own entertainment. First the courts and then explicit code have held this for over 100 years.
If you do not believe me read the license agreement included with your software and compare it to the license agreement included with your CDs or videos.
If you still do not believe me go read the law.
KFG
Cue the theme from Deliverance.
KFG
It has always been so - indeed, you say as much later on ("We pay for the rights to listen to that music"). When you buy a CD, you are purchasing a licence which grants you the right to listen to the music contained on that CD.
No, you are not. No license is required to listen to music, read a book or watch a performance.
A license is only needed to copy works covered by copyright. The publisher of the CD is the only one who requires a license.
When you buy a CD you are, very simply, acquiring a piece of property.
Do not license music; buy it!
KFG
you are all not reading it. yes, its a basis for networking, but when the word "communications" is used in IT, its implying voice devices or some form of voice communication device.
a)No it isn't
b)The relevant definition isn't that used in IT anyway, it's the definition in law.
KFG
That was the original philosophy, yes, but has since been explicitly denied by the Berne Convention Treaty to which the US is signatory. Copies required for the normal use of software do not require a license. It is a form of fair use. Yet the EULAs and the concept of licensing software remain so as not to upset an "industry" that was created by the concept before the law caught up to it.
Sounds like a music biz lawyer has suddenly found an ignorant fucktard in Congress and is trying to pull one over.
KFG
Car analogy, quick!
A car's fuel pump is like your heart and its carb is like your lungs. The Model T Ford didn't have a fuel pump, positioning the gas tank higher than the carb and relying on gravity for fuel flow. That meant that on particularly steep uphills fuel flow could actually stop. Drivers would have to climb them in reverse.
You would think this would be a major disability, but I knew a man who drove a Model T all his life; and yet this man could play the banjo as well as anyone I ever knew.
Carthago delenda est!
KFG
I suggested "Big Ass Balls," which is a concept that I think Jack & Jenny Sixpack could handle, but I got voted down.
Go figure.
KFG
They prefer the word "commission."
KFG
Firstly, with regard to your comment . . . no, they don't make'em like they used to...
This was not the point of my post, but rather the post I was responding to.
The point of my post was that build quality has nothing to do with the issue under discussion
KFG
I'm sorry, you'll have to come up with a car analogy.
The best value in a car is a two year old used, third year of the model, but avoid the models favored by teenage street racers. They're innately overpriced for what you get and no matter how shiney the paint the internals have had the shit beat out of them.
KFG
Whereas those old Betamax machines just keep running, and running, and running, and. . .
KFG
Unless you spend several hundred dollars every few years, you get way behind the curve.
.it's envy.
What's wrong with staying way behind the curve? It's the same tech, the same games, the same everything over time, except that you get those who think there is some important value to being at the leading edge of the curve to finance your gaming for you.
Your problem isn't tech, or money . .
Remember, the best ride is on the face of the wave.
KFG
I don't know about where you live, but around here showing crack is one of the more effective ways to get chicks, at least for a half or so.
KFG
Just more proof that "IT" != computer science
Oh come ooooooooon! The next thing you know you'll be claiming that picking up garbage != sanitation engineering.
KFG
if you don't like it then tell us some specifics on why you don't like it!
It's clean and modern.
KFG
There will be no Web 3.0. Instead there will be Web 2.0-2.0, which will be known to the memeosphere as Web Squared. It'll be hip to be Squared.
KFG
Define "traditionally." Normally that word is reserved for a long-term scope. . .
It isn't a question of time scope, per se, but the very meaning of the word, because it means "from the hand," to be passed on and not merely a historical fact.
You "get" tradition and you, in turn, "give" tradition, but it doesn't "just happen." The proper word would have been "historically,"
KFG
Until recently the US still dominated manufacturing of PC CPUs, but times change:
u tsourcing/
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2004/11/09/amd_o
VIA also has certain long range plans for the market dominance of Intel and AMD.
I had a Brother word processor, made in something like 1991,and it had a sticker "Made in USA from domestic parts"
1991 called. They want their sticker back. When I reached the age of majority I could be virtually certain when buying a mass produced commercial product that I could not only find one that had been made in the USA, but at least partially in my own area.
Now I think it's down to soda and soft luggage and the soft luggage is purely by chance.
KFG
The obverse is also true. For every law that is repealed new, legal business opportunities open up.
But the old businesses might squeal like stuck pigs about it.
KFG
If the networks can no longer count on people watching at least some ads, how are they to pay for content? The day most people have "auto-commercial-skip" is the day advertisers stop paying to be a part of the program.
.you need to put down emotion and maybe start coming up with reasonable alternative business models . . .
.if you want to see devices like this suceed.
I have a friend who inteneded to do a Master's thesis on television advertising. She had to abondon it. It turns out she could not watch television advertising, even when she wanted to, because her brain had been trained to auto-skip them.
She is an extreme example, but we all mentally (or even physically) auto-skip advertising to one extent or another and the advertising industry is already painfully aware that most of their effort has no effect.
You cannot create effective advertising by force.
. .
If he is not in the industry that is not his responsibility.
. .
Then don't pass new and oppressive laws banning them for no reason other than supporting a business model which has no place in codified law.
KFG
While the IT field certainly requires a lot of experience, 80% of it is routine.
Of course it is, especially if you are running a retail chain, as opposed to an engineering and technology company.
I'm intrigued by some of the comments in the article quoting abuse of telecommuting, washing dishes and driving tractors during conference calls.
This is the sort of thing that telecommuting is supposed to allow. Sitting on the frickin' beach during a conference call is the meme for telecommuting. The comments smack of control issues, not job performance issues. The manager has an image of "professional behavior" that he wants applied to telecommuters as if they were actually in the office.
And the part of IT that requires conference calls is the 20% that is not routine.
KFG
From the website:
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.they are clearly promoting a liberal socialist agenda.
A new technology -- fuel cell vehicles -- promises clean and efficient travel for the 21st century. .
This is not only an abuse of science, but one I have been active in combating in this very forum. So I came to post a mea culpa; but. . .
Then I found this in your rebuttal:
. .
And so I think I'll let my original post stand.
KFG
Given the fact that you posted it I have to presume that you are unaware of the fact that your post is a reasonably good example of why this contest is a good idea and the sponsoring organization is necessary.
KFG