It's a PC with wheels and sensors. Which is why it will cost about as much as a PC.
It's as fully programmable as any PC, which means you can make an 802.11g beowulf cluster that will chase the cat around the house.
Obviously the big thing here is the propriatary AI programing, so I can't tell you anthing about that, but other than that you could whip one of these things up yourself for a few hundreds of dollars of used parts.
The "other than that" clause is a biggy though, if you don't have a few years to dick with AI software.
If you do you'll have more fun building one than buying it anyway, but already know that.
It's also interesting that the reference is to a failure of SCO to produce license agreement documentation under the terms of discovery, to which SCO basically replies:
"We'll get around to it. Honest."
SCO is going to a fair amount of trouble to ensure that the general run of people do not see their licensing terms and documentation. Up to, and including, refusal to sell the license they are demanding as their right.
You cannot buy a license from SCO. People have tried. If you ask for one they will refuse to sell it to you.
The only way to obtain a license is if you are a large company in collusion with them or threatened with suit by them.
An interesting fact is that while we know of the licenses they have sold in collusion (Sun and Microsoft), and we know of companies that have refused SCO's advances (Lehman Brothers, et al), we do not know anything about those few companies SCO seems to claim have otherwise purchased a license.
Interesting, no? Could one, perhaps, make a crude guess as to what one of the terms of the license agreement is?
I've checked M-W and dictionary.com and can't find zyxt...
That would be, in part, because they are not the place I said it could be found. The butler really did do it, just not in The Hound of the Baskervilles.
You could also try googling.
My claim that the word would not have to be looked up because it was a common, household word was a joke, but perhaps not the way people might take it. Zyxt was the name of a soap and their motto,"The last word in cleanliness."
Now, how can the brand name of a soap product possibly be obscure, Hmmmmmmm?
No. You can't make a mechanical device like a car that requires no maintainence. Bearings wear out. Hoses and belts have a limited lifespan even you never drive the car, etc. This is the real world. We will obey the laws of thermodynamics. Entropy always wins.
What you can do is make it require less maintainence, make that maintainence cheaper to perform, and make the car last until you hit something really hard so long as you maintain it. You should be able to hand your car down to your kids.
Other than that you're bang on though.
I wonder what we can learn from that about maintaining our computers?
That's the problem with you ACs. Y'all look alike.:)
Matter of fact, y'all look like I did for years. Missed my chance at that coveted 3 or 4 digit ID number. Tin foil hat wouldn't it let it through, but at the least the propeller on top lets me cut a rakish figure down at the Grange Hall.
Give me a break. First of all, what are your chances of actually being sued by SCO? Fairly slim, I suspect. And even then, a simple motion that says "Your honor, Novell claims they have the copyrights to this material, and SCO is involved in legal process with them. Until such time as SCO can demonstrate that they actually own the property they are claiming, I move the case be placed on hold.
Nah, you don't even have to do that. Things are going roughly the way I predicted a while ago. SCO threatened Lehman Brothers and they responded, in essence:
"Dude, you got the wrong party. We use Red Hat. If you have issues with your IP in Red Hat you have to resolve them with them. Now run along."
Red Hat is the one to bring up the Novell issue. The end user is the lowest man on the precedence totem pole and you work up from there.
Oh, wait. Red Hat has already sued SCO. Go figure. Well, that settles it. The issue of SCO's IP in Red Hat is already before the court.
I am a founding board member of the nonprofit corporation that acquired the rights to the coffeehouse in which Mr. McLean first performed American Pie. As such, in our opinion, American Pie is a derivative work of our orginization.
Please remit a check for $699 dollars to me immediately.
Done? Rule? Dude, the case is still in discovery. It hasn't even started yet.
The issue of whether SCO even has standing to sue, i.e. does Novell trump them, is a preliminary issue to be decided before the case even goes forward, and that alone could take several months.
It's a nasty habit I have. In fact one of my favorite books is the O.E.D. I can just browse through that one for hours. It makes frequent reference to a lot of other good books too, which I've found rather handy.
The Britannica is another page turner.
You aren't the first to tell me he's had to refer to a dictionary to read one of my posts, and someone on a mailing list I'm on says he pretty much has to keep one on his lap when he reads me.
Honestly, I don't really use words that are all that obscure, maybe you should read more books. May I suggest the O.E.D.?
I really shouldn't spoil the ending for you, but it's "zyxt."
You shouldn't have to look that one up though, it's common word around the house.
Interesting. I'll have to go looking for that one.
I know I've cracked a few windshields with nothing more than a screwdriver and no particular force at all and a cop friend of mind has related a story or two about using a punch.
I'll definately check it out, and maybe make a few personal tests if I can find a "donor."
If, however, I were a bad guy, I might well avail myself of a "product" that could write to/copy the key tracks, although it might well be of questionable legality, and if I were a good guy I might well want a similar device for making fornesic copies of the bad guy's original.
Why would I pay anyone for karma? I don't view it as a game to be won or lost. It's simply peer review. Nor would their be any motivation to do so, since my karma has been maxed out for years.
Simply by posting the only thing I can possibly do is stay where I am or lose karma.
Why did I get modded up at all?
Well, there's just plain moderator ignorance. I happens. And perhaps certain people have read my posts and over time come to the conclusion that I'm fairly reliable. That certainly doesn't mean I don't make mistakes, or that moderators don't.
Trust, but verify.
Why didn't you get modded up after you pointed out I was wrong?
Well, because you didn't really. You disagreed with me, and your provided link was simply to some other post that agreed with you. There was no authority to it and certainly no proof. It had no more weight than my own post.
Please refer to the post above the one I am replying to. Since that post was made I have been modded down and he has been modded up, because he is the one who properly handed my ass to me.
Study that post and do likewise next time and you will get me modded down and get yourself modded up.
Thank you for the link to Stevenson's page. It's obviously been too many years, and too many brain cells, since I last read it. I've gone so far as to copy it, just in case, but you didn't hear me say that, just in case.
In my defense all I can say is that encryption of the data sectors is optional.
As for throwing money at it, what can be made can be copied. I can still buy devices to create and and copy Edison cylinders off the shelf, or simply make my own.
Some people forget that people can make things on their own if they are sufficiently motivated. All sorts of things. It doesn't even necessarily cost very much money.
Simply copying files, as you have demonstrated, is trivial. Copying them in their decrypted form is hardly more trivial given the same equipment, and of course there is DeCSS, XCopy (run to the store now, you have a week) or just plain brute forcing it.
I am many years out of date on this, but the last time I looked BMW was the only car manufacturer with the perspicacity to include an emergency window winding mechanism in its cars with electric windows. It always seemed like a no brainer to me.
An impact puch might serve (and I recommend every car carry one in its glove box), but that's messy and expensive for simple, non life threatening situations.
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It's a PC with wheels and sensors. Which is why it will cost about as much as a PC.
It's as fully programmable as any PC, which means you can make an 802.11g beowulf cluster that will chase the cat around the house.
Obviously the big thing here is the propriatary AI programing, so I can't tell you anthing about that, but other than that you could whip one of these things up yourself for a few hundreds of dollars of used parts.
The "other than that" clause is a biggy though, if you don't have a few years to dick with AI software.
If you do you'll have more fun building one than buying it anyway, but already know that.
KFG
Interesting. I missed that.
It's also interesting that the reference is to a failure of SCO to produce license agreement documentation under the terms of discovery, to which SCO basically replies:
"We'll get around to it. Honest."
SCO is going to a fair amount of trouble to ensure that the general run of people do not see their licensing terms and documentation. Up to, and including, refusal to sell the license they are demanding as their right.
KFG
You cannot buy a license from SCO. People have tried. If you ask for one they will refuse to sell it to you.
The only way to obtain a license is if you are a large company in collusion with them or threatened with suit by them.
An interesting fact is that while we know of the licenses they have sold in collusion (Sun and Microsoft), and we know of companies that have refused SCO's advances (Lehman Brothers, et al), we do not know anything about those few companies SCO seems to claim have otherwise purchased a license.
Interesting, no? Could one, perhaps, make a crude guess as to what one of the terms of the license agreement is?
KFG
. . .there is no OIL on Mars.
Don't be daft man, it's right over there, next to the chemical weapons and shit.
We knew we'd find them someplace, if we looked hard enough.
KFG
But dude, there is a shitload of money and power to be derived from jumping to such conclusions.
.are you?
You aren't against money and power. .
KFG
Man, are you behind the times. The Moon is a hoax, in and of itself. That's why it was so easy to fake landing on it.
Moon me baby
KFG
Bingo! Thank you.
KFG
I've checked M-W and dictionary.com and can't find zyxt...
That would be, in part, because they are not the place I said it could be found. The butler really did do it, just not in The Hound of the Baskervilles.
You could also try googling.
My claim that the word would not have to be looked up because it was a common, household word was a joke, but perhaps not the way people might take it. Zyxt was the name of a soap and their motto,"The last word in cleanliness."
Now, how can the brand name of a soap product possibly be obscure, Hmmmmmmm?
KFG
Sometimes I learn things the hard way.
KFG
No. The executives moved to California. The schlubs are still in South Dakota. You think they're going to pay assemblers San Diego wages?
Gateway Factory
Although bits of California look like Mars too, except for the funny color of the sky.
KFG
No. You can't make a mechanical device like a car that requires no maintainence. Bearings wear out. Hoses and belts have a limited lifespan even you never drive the car, etc. This is the real world. We will obey the laws of thermodynamics. Entropy always wins.
What you can do is make it require less maintainence, make that maintainence cheaper to perform, and make the car last until you hit something really hard so long as you maintain it. You should be able to hand your car down to your kids.
Other than that you're bang on though.
I wonder what we can learn from that about maintaining our computers?
KFG
Ten years out of date, but ten years more reliable for the effort.
Sort of like Debian.
Cutting edge ain't always what it's cracked up to be.
KFG
Yeah, but they thought they could save a few bucks and got the Gateway consumer version.
."
"Oh, you've got the on-site warranty, huh? Ok, first thing you have to do is ship it to South Dakota. .
Oh, hey, looks just like Mars.
KFG
That's the problem with you ACs. Y'all look alike. :)
Matter of fact, y'all look like I did for years. Missed my chance at that coveted 3 or 4 digit ID number. Tin foil hat wouldn't it let it through, but at the least the propeller on top lets me cut a rakish figure down at the Grange Hall.
KFG
Give me a break. First of all, what are your chances of actually being sued by SCO? Fairly slim, I suspect. And even then, a simple motion that says "Your honor, Novell claims they have the copyrights to this material, and SCO is involved in legal process with them. Until such time as SCO can demonstrate that they actually own the property they are claiming, I move the case be placed on hold.
Nah, you don't even have to do that. Things are going roughly the way I predicted a while ago. SCO threatened Lehman Brothers and they responded, in essence:
"Dude, you got the wrong party. We use Red Hat. If you have issues with your IP in Red Hat you have to resolve them with them. Now run along."
Red Hat is the one to bring up the Novell issue. The end user is the lowest man on the precedence totem pole and you work up from there.
Oh, wait. Red Hat has already sued SCO. Go figure. Well, that settles it. The issue of SCO's IP in Red Hat is already before the court.
KFG
Dear Sir,
I am a founding board member of the nonprofit corporation that acquired the rights to the coffeehouse in which Mr. McLean first performed American Pie. As such, in our opinion, American Pie is a derivative work of our orginization.
Please remit a check for $699 dollars to me immediately.
Oh, yeah. Make it out to "cash," 'K?
KFG
Done? Rule? Dude, the case is still in discovery. It hasn't even started yet.
The issue of whether SCO even has standing to sue, i.e. does Novell trump them, is a preliminary issue to be decided before the case even goes forward, and that alone could take several months.
KFG
There are far worse things than spies.
They call them "Divorce Lawyers."
KFG
It's a nasty habit I have. In fact one of my favorite books is the O.E.D. I can just browse through that one for hours. It makes frequent reference to a lot of other good books too, which I've found rather handy.
The Britannica is another page turner.
You aren't the first to tell me he's had to refer to a dictionary to read one of my posts, and someone on a mailing list I'm on says he pretty much has to keep one on his lap when he reads me.
Honestly, I don't really use words that are all that obscure, maybe you should read more books. May I suggest the O.E.D.?
I really shouldn't spoil the ending for you, but it's "zyxt."
You shouldn't have to look that one up though, it's common word around the house.
KFG
Interesting. I'll have to go looking for that one.
I know I've cracked a few windshields with nothing more than a screwdriver and no particular force at all and a cop friend of mind has related a story or two about using a punch.
I'll definately check it out, and maybe make a few personal tests if I can find a "donor."
KFG
Nolo Contendre; as per my post to the AC.
If, however, I were a bad guy, I might well avail myself of a "product" that could write to/copy the key tracks, although it might well be of questionable legality, and if I were a good guy I might well want a similar device for making fornesic copies of the bad guy's original.
KFG
Why would I pay anyone for karma? I don't view it as a game to be won or lost. It's simply peer review. Nor would their be any motivation to do so, since my karma has been maxed out for years.
Simply by posting the only thing I can possibly do is stay where I am or lose karma.
Why did I get modded up at all?
Well, there's just plain moderator ignorance. I happens. And perhaps certain people have read my posts and over time come to the conclusion that I'm fairly reliable. That certainly doesn't mean I don't make mistakes, or that moderators don't.
Trust, but verify.
Why didn't you get modded up after you pointed out I was wrong?
Well, because you didn't really. You disagreed with me, and your provided link was simply to some other post that agreed with you. There was no authority to it and certainly no proof. It had no more weight than my own post.
Please refer to the post above the one I am replying to. Since that post was made I have been modded down and he has been modded up, because he is the one who properly handed my ass to me.
Study that post and do likewise next time and you will get me modded down and get yourself modded up.
KFG
Thank you for the link to Stevenson's page. It's obviously been too many years, and too many brain cells, since I last read it. I've gone so far as to copy it, just in case, but you didn't hear me say that, just in case.
In my defense all I can say is that encryption of the data sectors is optional.
As for throwing money at it, what can be made can be copied. I can still buy devices to create and and copy Edison cylinders off the shelf, or simply make my own.
Some people forget that people can make things on their own if they are sufficiently motivated. All sorts of things. It doesn't even necessarily cost very much money.
Simply copying files, as you have demonstrated, is trivial. Copying them in their decrypted form is hardly more trivial given the same equipment, and of course there is DeCSS, XCopy (run to the store now, you have a week) or just plain brute forcing it.
KFG
I am many years out of date on this, but the last time I looked BMW was the only car manufacturer with the perspicacity to include an emergency window winding mechanism in its cars with electric windows. It always seemed like a no brainer to me.
An impact puch might serve (and I recommend every car carry one in its glove box), but that's messy and expensive for simple, non life threatening situations.
KFG
Of course it was a weather ballon released by aliens studying our atmosphere.
And don't get me going about the so called "Goodyear" blimp.
Geez, wake up people!
KFG