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China Sending Two People Into Space
henrypijames writes "As reported widely in Chinese media, China has began production of and launch preparations for it's new Shenzhou ("divine ship") 6 spaceship. While being roughly equal in design to Shenzhou 5 which sent the first Chinese into space last year (although having capacity for three persons), Shenzhou 6 is supposed to carry two "Taikonaut" next year."
"Shenzhou 6 is supposed to carry two "Taikonaut" next year."
I bet the people on the space station were getting tired of american and russian food. I never had taikonaut but its probably good...
God Bless America, with the worst crime levels in the first world
God Bless America, where "democracy" means a rich, white male as President
God Bless America, the biggest consumer of the world's natural resources
God Bless America, so happy to violate international laws
God Bless America, where "freedom of speech" means race-hate groups like KKK
God Bless America, and its massive and ever-growing poverty gap
God Bless America, with barely 300 years of dire history and culture
God Bless America, all its appalling "sitcoms" with no grasp of irony
God Bless America, with the highest obesity levels in the developed world
God Bless America, because corporations should be allowed to run amok
God Bless America, wasting billions to attack foreign countries
God Bless America, and thank God I don't have to live there.
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Hopefully this will get the US to start a space race with China! Just to make sure, everyone tell Bush that if China gets a man on Mars first, that proves that the president of China has a bigger penis than the president of the US.
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I notice that nothing is said about bringing them back.
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Your offensive, racist comment, should not have been moderated "Funny."
"I am a fictional character."
Shenzhou 5 which sent the first Chinese into space last year (although having capacity for three persons), Shenzhou 6 is supposed to carry two "Taikonaut" next year."
They are sending two people so that they can drive the carpool lane. (HOV lane) !!
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Fortunately, the US has already build a home for americans in space. Can't wait till they start to move away from our daily lifes and we can start to care about something else than FUD, selfmade terrorism and invisible WMD's.
Hopefully this will revive the manned spaceflight programs all over the world, preferably in the form of true collaboration and not just let's-all-keep-reinventing-the-wheel kind of silly competition.
We need to get off this planet sooner or later and unmanned probes won't do that.
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I'd be more impressed if China managed to provide a decent standard of living for all of its billion+ population. This is just me-too technology, the USSR did it (and its population suffered as a result, since it wasn't a rich country), the USA did it and more (and its population paid the price in taxes, but it could afford it, being a truly rich country), and now China is about to do just like the USSR and further starve its population to go up-diddly-up-up and perform stunts to impress other countries and amaze the press.
They're a bunch of circus clown, and putting priorities like that above their nation's welfare shows how much Chinese leaders are disconnected with the reality of their country.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
snippet from Wikipedia's listing for the Shenzhou - lots more in the link!
Design
Like the Soyuz, the Shenzhou consists of three modules; a forward "orbital" module, a reentry capsule in the middle, and an aft service module. This division is based on the principle of minimizing the amount of material to be returned to Earth. Anything placed in the orbital or service modules does not require heat shielding, and this greatly increases the space available to the spacecraft without increasing weight as much as it would if those modules were also able to withstand reentry.
The orbital module contains space for experiments, crew-serviced or operated equipment, and in-orbit habitation. The reentry capsule contains seating for the crew, and is the only portion of the Shenzhou which returns to Earth's surface. The aft service module contains life support and other equipment required for the functioning of the Shenzhou. Two pairs of solar panels, one pair on the service module and the other pair on the orbital module, have a total area of over 40 square metres, indicating average electrical power over 1.5 kW (three times that of Soyuz and greater than that of the original Mir base module).
Unlike the Soyuz, the orbital module was equipped with its own propulsion, solar power, and control systems, allowing autonomous flight. In the future the orbital modules could also be left behind on a Chinese space station as additional station modules. In the unmanned test flights launched so far, the orbital module of each Shenzhou was left functioning in orbit for several days after the reentry capsule's return.
I prefer Takhomasak myself.
Don't we have a huge self-contained, furnished, International Room With a View in orbit already? Why don't they plan to just build on to that and add at least a recroom. Ping pong in 0g.
It would be a great way to ease the tension of this whole nuke issue.
You know those Chinese multiply like rabbits: 2, 4, 8, 16 ...
Technically, that's not "breeding like rabbits".
Your series is polynomic. A rabbit population will increase exponentially, given the resources and space.
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Hope they drive spaceships better than cars...
I think you meant "hope they ride spaceships as well as bicycles". I wonder how many people they have in the rocket's body pedalling like crazy during launch...
OK I know I'm gonna get labeled as a troll, but I still think the fact is that Kennedy's race to the moon had nothing to do with the desire for space exploration and everything to do with advancing and keeping one up on ICMB technology. The space program was just a nice side effect. The same could even be said of the hubble telescope, where I hear they have 6 of them up there, but rather than pointing up are pointing down as spy telescopes.
Now the same is true of China. They wanted space weapons cababilities, so they created a space program. It has more to do with Tiwan than space, and the US mission to Marz and the new recent push back into space has from Bush has more to do with China than any real interest or value they see in space.
I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is.
Naa... 'Chinaut' is best one!
Oh, really? I swear I witness so many bad chineese drivers, and I know some guys from China who agree with me on this one. They just don't know how to drive and when they cause some problem or an accident they don't even understand why it was their fault. There are other bad drivers too, but I most of the ones I see are Chineese. Now, you can moderate this as much as you want, but I take a stand, this is my imperical evidence.
You can't handle the truth.
I hope china builds a nuclear powered rocket like some of the designs discussed at http://www.nuclearspace.com/ . Then the defence industry in the US would overide the environmentalists.
Just like a submarine, its crazy not to use nuclear.
I'm a dual citizen of America and China, you insensitive clod.
Funny? I know I'm not the first to speak up, as I have been beaten to the punch, but still--where do the moderators get off moderating this racist drivel as being funny? Mod me as a troll or redundant or whatever other crap you may, but when things like racism are funny while standing up for a sense of respect and tolerance for other cultures goes unnoticed or is determined to be trolling... that's just sad.
So two Chinese, seven Americans, and a Russian were flying in space...
In case you were wondering like me ...
"Taikong" is a Chinese word that means space or cosmos. The resulted prefix "taiko-" is similar to "astro-" and "cosmo-" that makes three words perfectly symmetric, both in meaning and in form. Removing "g" from "taikong" is to make the word short and easy to pronounce. On the other side, its pronounciation is also close to "taikong ren", the Chinese words "space men".
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Bomb them all from the moon! We must not allow a mine shaft gap!
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You know those Chinese multiply like rabbits: 2, 4, 8, 16 ...
If you were well-informed enough to hear of the Chinese one-child policy, you would have written "1, 1, 1, 1, 1...". And even then, you'd be leaving out all the instances where children were killed because they were girls.
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Read the mini article, but it sure didn't say much...
- Five to seven day mission doing what?
- Their coming space station will be carrying out what experiments?
- Why aren't they using the already functional International Space Station?
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unless you have a government restriction of the number of rabbit births and a social stigma against giving births to female rabbits.
they're *blasting*...
China, which last year became the third nation to blast a man into space...
it's funnier.
"You get all the fun of sitting still, being quiet, writing down numbers, paying attention...science has it all."
not a troll
Wouldn't they be better of building rails into space? They have much experience at this.
2^1 2^2 2^3 2^4
His series is exponential too, making your statement meaningless.
What you really meant to say, perhaps, is that rabbits use a different exponential series. Perhaps not exactly a Fibonacci series, but something similar.
How exactly do you figure that's racist? Racism is the belief that one race of people is geneticly superior to another. How does making a comment about the skill with which Chinese people drive cars imply that Chinese are geneticly inferior?
We should convince UN to form a special conflic-resolution commission for cases like that and put, um, I dunno, maybe Monical Lewinsky in charge.
Actually, doesn't a rabbit population follow a fibonacci sequence? I know that's always the example that's used when you learn about fibonacci sequences. so, 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34...
Where did you get the translation "divine ship" from? I bet it's not official. For it's hard to imagine a communist country with such "divine" nomenclature.
In fact, "Shenzhou" rhymed with "Shenzhou", which literally means "China".
bah!
Russia has a 40-year-old soyouz, China has the most advanced manned space ship.. and America has NOTHING to put man into space!! only useless shuttles that are a dysmal failure.
If by the rest of the world you mean Russia and the US then yes. But otherwise they're ahead.
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"The rest of the world"? Come on.
43 years behind Russia? Sure.
43 years behind the USA? Sure.
But nobody else has put anybody into space. Aside from Russia and the USA, China is ahead of the rest of the world. Whee!
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... as space is the ultimate high ground on military thinking and United States is publicly touting to build space-based weaponry to maintain supremecy.
This is just the beginning of next arms race, even India is building nuclear attack platform in space.
Arms control is dead, welcome new instability.
OK, screwed that one up a bit. By rest of the world I did mean the USSR and US.
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Only imaginary rabits do. Real rabbits create litters of more than 1. There *are* similarities though.
By rest of the world I did mean the USSR and US.
You failed geography, didn't you?
There is a Reuter report on CNN online, with practically the same information as the Xinhua report.
I have told you people to stop making fun of Karl Rove!!!!
Show more respect!
1: Is the charge of delivering the bill added to the cost of the bullet used to execute someone?
2: Why does China continue to destroy/level churches that it doesn't like?
I swear I witness so many bad chineese drivers, and I know some guys from China who agree with me on this one. They just don't know how to drive and when they cause some problem or an accident they don't even understand why it was their fault. There are other bad drivers too, but I most of the ones I see are Chineese
Yeah. All "Chineese" are bad drivers. Though I'd bet my last dollar that they could write in their native language better than you write in yours.
Now, you can moderate this as much as you want, but I take a stand, this is my imperical evidence.
You mean "empirical" right? And how is the act of "taking a stand" empirical evidence?
Oh wait, it's just your fucked up grammar.
Post about china and watch how american act like americans on slashdot.
I'm not only from europe, no, I'm also deeply impressed by your "funny" (+5, Troll) and your "Insightful" (+5, Flamebait) posts.
Truly a great moment for the american karma and how the rest of the world shall interpret it.
I know you're kidding but Eastern and especially Communist collectivism is precisely why China could easily beat the West to a manned Mars mission: get the taikonauts to Mars without worrying how to bring them back. If you figure it out later: great, then you get to tell the West "I told you so". If not, give them the Order of Labour Glory or whatever.
Give me a break, moderators
I find it offensive that the first thing slashdot thinks of in a case like this is delivery food!
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Me too. I also had this problem with my video card. I'm not sure if the drivers were chinese or made in Taiwan, but sure they didn't work as expected!
How the hell do you figure that English is my first language, asshole? Russian and Ukrainian are though, so fuck off, ok?
You can't handle the truth.
"All your planets are belong to us!"
Yes, that's right. It's the year of the monkey, and the sons and daughters of the dragon will soon be sending the next Wong Fei Hung and Fong Sai Yuk into space to demonstrate the greatness of the Chinese nation and make it plainly obvious for all that China is not the sick man of Asia.
You speak of tolerance, but none of the anti-racists is tolerant. Either you completely agree with them without questioning, or you're a racist.
These days you need to reread everything you write several times to make sure it can't be possible interprete as "racism" especialy when there are anti-racists around.
Would you have complained if his joke had been about white people?
-1 Offtopic, not +1 Informative,
plus, it wasn't even accurate. 2,4,8,16 *is* exponential. Sure the series can be viewed in a variety of ways given it is so short, but one of the obvious ways is exponential.
I am Jewish, you moron.
Israel has not put anybody into space.
The US has put an Israeli into space. Not the same thing.
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The US can't afford to send people to Mars but we can afford to send 2 chinese into space?
62 percent of all shoes and sneakers imported to the United States are made in China. So are 83 percent of all toys and sporting goods, 54 percent of all leather products, 76 percent of all umbrellas, 30 percent of all furniture, and one in four caps and hats.
The US China trade deficit is about $82 billion dollars (last time I checked) and the Apollo program only cost about $25 Billion.
I'm not sure what my point is but I'm sure there is one.
People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them
Hahaha..
Good thing he died before he could make his way back to Earth.
That's God speaking to you Jews. God's Choosen my cock.
Nobody goes to stars but in space, therefore astronaut is a wrong and misleading word.
Spacenaut or Cosmonaut are better words, after all, people go into space (cosmos).
What does Taiko mean? (space or star?)
What is the Chinese equivalent of Spacenaut?
... with only one landing module designed for three people...
(someone has to come up with an ending now)
You can't handle the truth.
Ouch!
Cosmos is a Greek word not a Russian word
Astro comes from Latin not from English
Naut comes from Greek (Navigator, Navigation, all these words come from Greek)
How the hell do you figure that English is my first language, asshole? Russian and Ukrainian are though, so fuck off, ok?
Oh, well that explains it then. You see, my empirical evidence seems to indicate that those with a Ukrainian background have terrible difficulty spelling "Chinese" and "empirical", and sometimes just darn well fuck up sentences all together!
Honestly dude, you're making sweeping generalizations as to a person's driving ability with respect to their race. People are people. Some people can drive well, others frequently fuck up. Some people can spell the names of the race they're trying to insult, others frequently fuck up.
So what's your deal?
Racial based humor is not, logically, indictive of racism.
In other words, the answer to the question where do the moderators get off moderating this racist drivel as being funny? is; Because the think it is funny!
Get some looser shorts, man. I am guessing that one of the differences between my post and the parent, was that I smiled more while writing mine.
Moderators: Mod this however you like, it's your mod point.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Private land ownership has been legal in China since 1987. Yes, that's right, before it was legal in Russia.
Huh? America has four... no, wait I mean THREE 30-year-old shuttles... that will be gone in six years. Plus a functioning space station... oh wait, no, that's finished and abandoned by 2010 or so as well... Well there's the fancy new spaceship... kind of like an apollo capsule really... likely to be finished by, well, eventually... After 2010 America's only way of getting into space will be to hitch a ride with Russia. Kind of like right now... I think the fat lady has sung...
Go China,
Go China,
It's your birthday,
It's your birthday..............
For a supposedly atheist country?
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
No, you've seen at least one chinese person drive badly and THAT'S your empirical evidence. Even if you've seen 100 chinese people drive "like shit", that's insignificant compared to the number of chinese people worldwide. I'm going to be charitable and assume that it's an ignorance of statistics that is behind your racist opinions - nevertheless, they are nonsense.
Well then, it's all peachy, but my spelling abilities do not, in any way, cause unnecessary accidents on the roads, do they?
Every time you spell something wrong, a kitten dies.
When some fuckhead tries to make an illegal turn into your car because they have no fucking peripheral or any fucking vision, then you can fucking talk
Well the obvious response would be to say that because of this unfortunate incident you've gone sour and now make a point of noting the poor efforts of Chinese drivers.
But eh, it's all subjective anyway, and you've pretty much completely missed the point of what I was on about. Sorry to have to piss you off to prove a point to myself.
Have a nice night/day/whatever it is where you are.
The US was very close to entering the war when Pearl Harbor occured. The only reason Yamamoto permitted Pearl Harbor is that he was hoping it would take out enough US hardware that Japan could hold out. If the Japanese believed that the US were going to stay out of the war, they would have happily let them.
The only reason capitalist governments need taxes, is that they need to buy stuff that's being produced by private industry. If all the production is public, then the government doesn't need to use money internally at all. A communist government redistributes the gains of labour the same way a socialist government redistributes income.
well said.
Standard of living is an ends in itself (well, maybe for Americans), it's a measure of quality of life potential. However, quality of life can be raised by factors other than increase of income; factors such as a better environment or more available technology.
You don't try and feed a billion people by having them all sustinence farm -- you have a few of them farm and a few of them build fertilizer to help the farmers and a few of them build computers to help the chemists build the fertilizer to help the farmers and a few of them to build shiny things to trade for resources the engineers need to build the computers to help the chemists build the fertilizer to help the farmers. And how do you get better at building shiny things? Go to space.
Back in soviet china anyone can fly to space.
Atleast, I am not an anonymous coward. You see thats another part of freedom of speech. I don't have to worry about the gov kicking in my door for what I say. As current history shows most europeans are anonymous cowards.
People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them
I for one welcome our new Taikonaut overlords.
yes, quite.
start raving about you much you love islam and bombs - let's see how free your speech really is.
Good point, although the reason the US enacted the embargos was because they were planning for the inevitability of war with Japan. It could also be argued that the embargos were effectively an act of war just as OPEC cutting off US oil supply would be today.
And Yamamoto's intention was that Pearl Harbor would destabilize and demoralize the US enough that when they entered the war they would not be able to quickly pose a threat. The reason he was authorized to do this was because of the embargo.
er, yeah, but you should start the sequence from 2, unless your 1 rabbit is cloned or spontaneously divides in to two rabits :-)
Are these dissidents?
How many are they planning on bringing back?
I'm up for the challenge. One question, what form of my native language do you want? Also, I need to know if "better" is defined as correct syntax, clarity, etc. A definition of "better" is required.
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In case you didn't know, language is used to communicate. Obviously his communication is excellent less you could/would not comment on his improper usage of a word. This thread (including my post) is silly, so I'll finish it now:
1) Chinese are smarter than Americans.
2) Europeans are smarter than Americans.
3) Americans are smarter than people from any other country.
4) Liar.
5) No, you are.
11) My dick is bigger than yours.
12) Prove it.
20) This is silly. There is no credible way to prove anyone's dick is bigger than anyone else's on the internet. This is also slightly sexist, but we're being altogether too sensitive and that is also stupid.
21) The End. (Move along to the next thread. Nothing to see here.)
The most advanced? It's interesting how you know the secrets of NASA, the ESA, and the Chinese equivilent. You also seem to be forgetting the rocket program NASA developed some 40 years BEFORE the Chinese.
This is bothering me. I was going to quote you in a counterpoint about the unmatched records of the Space Shuttle program, but your grammar is so horrid that I can not.
Try this:
"Only useless shuttles that are dismal failures."
I. The Constitutional System
The Constitution is the fundamental law of the state.
The existing Constitution was adopted for implementation by the 5th Session of the 5th National People's Congress on December 4, 1982. Amendments were made to the Constitution respectively at the 1st Session of the 7th National People's Congress on April 12, 1988, the 1st Session of the 8th National People's Congress on March 29, 1993 and the 2nd Session of the 9th National People's Congress on March 15, 1999.
I. Major stipulations in the Constitution in regard to China's political system
1. Major political principles in China
(1) The Communist Party of China is the country's sole political party in power.
The People's Republic of China was founded by the Communist Party of China which is the leader of the Chinese people.
(2) The socialist system
The socialist system led by the working class and based on the alliance of the workers and farmers is the fundamental system of the People's Republic of China
(3) All rights belong to the people
All the power in the country belongs to the people who exercise their power through the National People's Congress and local people's congresses at all levels.
The people manage the state, economy, culture and other social affairs through a multitude of means and forms.
(4) The fundamental task and goals of the state
To concentrate on the socialist modernization drive along the road of building socialism with Chinese characteristics; to adhere to the socialist road, persist in the reform and opening up program, improve the socialist system in all aspects, develop the market economy, expand democracy, and improve the rule of law; to be self-reliance and work hard to gradually realize the modernization of the industry, agriculture, national defense, science and technology so as to build China into a strong and democratic socialist country with a high degree of cultural development.
(5) Democratic centralism
The organizational principle for the state organs is democratic centralism.
(6) The armed forces of the people
The armed forces of the People's Republic of China belong to the people.
The tasks of the armed forces are to consolidate national defense, resist invasion, defend the country, safeguard the people in their peaceful work and life, take part in the country's economic construction and strive to serves the people.
(7) To govern the country through the rule of law
All individuals, political parties and social organizations must abide by the Constitution in all their actions and shall not be privileged to be above the Constitution or the law.
All acts in violation of the Constitution and law must be investigated.
The rule of law is practiced to build China into a socialist country with the rule of law.
(8) The system of ethnic regional autonomy
All ethnic groups are equal.
All prejudice and oppression against any ethnic group is forbidden. All behaviors harmful to ethnic unity and aimed at ethnic separation are forbidden.
2. The position and rights of the citizen in the political life of the country
(1) All citizens are equal before the law.
(2) The right to vote and stand for election
All citizens who have reached the age of 18 have the right to vote and stand for election, regardless of ethnic status, race, sex, occupation, family background, religious belief, education, property status or length of residence, except persons deprived of political rights according to law.
(3) The freedom of speech and thought
All citizens enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, or assembly, of association, of procession and of demonstration
(4) The freedom of religious belief
Citizens enjoy the freedom of religious belief.
No state organ, public organization or individual may compel citizens to believe in, or not to believe in, any religion.
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Why was this guy modded troll when there are legitmate trolls all over /. getting modded funny or underrated. I see nothing that's trollish in his post. Moderators are just racist when it comes to someone who is jewish and wish to proclaim so. Isn't that a bit fascist?
Disclamer: I'm jewish born, but don't live in Israel.
Simple Math: about 300 million people in the US total. (280 or 297 or something as of the last census) 27 is about 30. Now divide that out: 1 in 10 people in the US is a child living in poverty. For the sake of ease in math lets assume that the current life expectancy is 80 (it is about 76 last I checked) and define child as anyone 20 or less (close enough to 18). Which means 1 in 4 people in the US is a child. Combine that with 1 in 10, and that means half the children in the US are living in poverty! (Yes I rounded, but there is a spike in the US population of the baby boomer years, so rounding down to 1/2 makes more sense than up 1/3 in this case)
In short: I don't believe your numbers. They just don't fit in with the US I know.
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I have an irrational feeling that Kerry will be a bad President.
Unfortunately, I don't see a good Democratic candidate this season.
Tigers respect lions, elephants and hippos. Maggots respect no one. (C) S. Dovlatov
You tell it yourself - it was for geopolitical goals.
And it is a long term investment that will allow USA to survive in 20 to 40 years prospective.
Tigers respect lions, elephants and hippos. Maggots respect no one. (C) S. Dovlatov
These are really old.
;-).
;-).
1. TASS news - there was a collision in the orbit between Soviet and Chinese spaceships. Two cosmonauts have died on the Soviet ship; three cosmonauts and twenty two stokers/firemen died on the Chinese one
2. China has launched a new satellite.
Two thousand people strained themselves during that launch
While this message sounds like a flaimbait, it really isn't. I personally admire Chinese civilization, and hope that the West will adopt a bit more than just Chinese food. For example, qigong and Daoist sexual techniques.
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Na, just make sure that the two crew members are Either a real hot woman and some guy, or two hot lesbians and the mission will pay for it self:-)
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If 1 in 10 ppl in the US is a 'child in poverty', that makes approx 27 million children in poverty. Why go through the rest of the math? You seem to be taking the fraction of the answer itself.
And why is this figure a problem if there are only 70 million children in the US ?( source. Mostly poor people have more children than rich people, which is why you will have more than half the children in poverty.
All bow to his Noodliness!! His Noodle Appendage has touched me!
Can I get "Wah-fucking-Wah" moderated as "Insightful" please?
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Racism has nothing to do with genetics of people, but rather with their ethnic origin. Thus, the remark is racist. It is also mildly amusing in a very shallow way, and I for one would err on the side of humor.
Exercise for the interested reader: Does that make me a shallow person? Am I a racist?
Free Manning, jail Obama.
Screw racist shit, is was to fucking funny. Hell, I hope they make spaceships better than fucking VCR's.
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Why did they send only one on a three person craft ?
Obviously, to return with aliens in the free seats.
You understand now, Scully ?
I'm still trying to figure out what people mean by 'social skills' here.
Even racist talk can be funny. In fact, humor transcends everything. That's why it is so useful. In Germany (how appropriate!) we have a saying: "Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht." It means: "Humor is, when you laugh nonetheless." And yes, the borked grammar is there on purpose.
That doesn't mean that I support racial humor, but denying that you did laugh (or smile) about it doesn't help fighting the racist cause.
OTOH, I have mod priviledges right now and would not have moderated the post as funny, because it's not.
Free Manning, jail Obama.
> You speak of tolerance, but none of the anti-racists is tolerant.
Huh? Your so-called anti-racists only extend tolerance to people who extend this tolerance in return. It's an application of the Golden Rule. Thus your anti-racists have no tolerance towards racists. I mean, that's the whole point.
Also regarding your fear about political correctness in what you're writing: If you say e.g. "women can't drive", then I can assure you that this is not racist.
Free Manning, jail Obama.
There are far more natural and strategic resources in Antarctica. And shit
I have YET to see any serious proposals to colonize antarctica despite being heavily laden with resources, containing a natural breathing atmoshpere, being WAY warmer than the moon, and being MILLIONS of times cheaper to exploit.
Manned space travel IS cool. That's about the extent to it's benefits.
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A space elevator could eventually make it safe and affordable to jettison nuclear waste it the cosmos!!!!
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I'm glad to see that the US isn't the ONLY country willing to waste BILLIONS on useless weapons technology.
Whats the difference between a satellite nuclear launcher and a submarine launcher ??????
Give up
Oh yeah, and a couple hundred billion dollars
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As current history shows most europeans are anonymous cowards.
really? care to prove that?
Am I a European?
Well, I guess you'll just have to develop a sense of humor.
The hell is this crap doing here ? Goddamn idiots on keyboards
What does any of this have to do with space technology?
Stay sentient. Don't drink bad milk.
If you were well-informed enough to hear of the Chinese one-child policy, you would have written "1, 1, 1, 1, 1...".
You are very, very smart. i hope you know this.
this is just speculation. nader will doubtless get far fewer votes than last time. It's too early to tell how people will vote; but by all indications nader is going to get a FAR smaller vote than last time around.
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You are very, very smart. i hope you know this.
Thanks, I reassure myself of this every time I look in the mirror, but its nice when the dolts who post to /. reconfirm my presumptions of genius.
Tubal-Cain smokes the white owl.
Yeah, I also read that editorial column that you whored for a little karma. No sources cited. Shame, shame on you.
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From an article dated October 14, 2003:
The mission will also herald the debut of authentic Chinese food in space, another Web site reported.
"They'll be able to eat shredded pork with garlic sauce and kungpao chicken," China.com, said. "It will be more tasty than Western food. After the meal, green tea will be available to increase the astronaut's spirits."
I swear I witness so many bad chineese drivers, and I know some guys from China who agree with me on this one.
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You know... the #1 way to propagate discrimination is by claiming that you know some guys who fit into the particular group in question and who say the same thing. That neither advances your argument nor does it make it right! What people--even those that belong to the group--say is totally irrelevant. This is true because some people are self-haters or feel subordinate to others (A good example are some blacks who were actually brainwashed to believe that they were inferior to whites in the 50's).
All blacks are dumb because I know some blacks who say so.
All whites are warmongers because I know some whites who say so.
All Asians are selfish because I know some who say so.
All women are idiots because some women admit it.
All Americans are dumb because I know some Americans who say so.
All Canadians are stupid because I know some who admit it.
All Latinos are criminals because I know some Latinos who agree with me on this one.
All Russians are corrupt because I know some Russians who agree with me on this one.
All Jews are greedy because I know some Jews who agree with me.
All Christians are dumb because I know some who agree with me.
I hope you see what I mean...
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Seeking the meaning of life... @slashdot of all places
How can this be modded to zero! You have got to be kidding me! Mod parent up. This is not flaiming! This is a legitimate point of view which makes perfect sense. Don't mod down just because it is a negative view. This needs to be there to balance the represented view points.
Creative Demolition
It IS racism, but it is milder than say what is typical put forth by fascists. Think of it this way... Here is a thought experiment:
Consider a hypothetical society where everyone was equal in all traits except driving. In such a case, you are basically claiming that the Chinese are inferior to others when it comes to driving (without any proof, and without considering environmental/societal factors). People advocating such views in that hypothetical society are basically calling for a fascist society of "good drivers" and "bad drivers". The Chinese will take the role of the inferior people in that society.
Now, come to our real society. Everything stays the same, driving isn't a "big" issue. Since driving cars isn't so "valuable", you don't care. But the principle stays the same. It IS racist. It isn't as severe as, say, someone claiming all Chinese are dumb and stupid and hence should not be allowed to have any professional jobs. Nevertheless, the ideal is the same.
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Seeking the meaning of life... @slashdot of all places
SARS is sooo yesterday... I think you mean Avian Flu?
:)
BTW, it's a funny post hehe
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Seeking the meaning of life... @slashdot of all places
I am not making generalizations, I am stating my fucking experiences. When some fuckhead tries to make an illegal turn into your car because they have no fucking peripheral or any fucking vision, then you can fucking talk, and this is not only me, this is now folklore.
;)
It's called racism but don't worry... many have a habit of being in denial over it.
Having said that, you may just be trolling. Is this your attempt to get TrollKore (aka TK) or GNAA to accept you?
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Seeking the meaning of life... @slashdot of all places
It's called racism but don't worry... many have a habit of being in denial over it. - sure it's called racism, I am not in denial over it, I admit it freely. However, I worked with many outstanding Chinese guys and girls and I have Chinese friends, but can easily be partially racist when I say that in my experience Chinese driving is the worst (today on the roads I saw another few examples.) So what was your question again?
You can't handle the truth.
Stupid troll, you know nothing about the Chinese society.
These techniques were for the aristocrats only, and it is your luck that you can read about them in a book that you can get from a regular bookstore.
However, you're so dumb that you won't use this opportunity to improve yourself.
And here about the causes of the overpopulation: http://sqft87.pisem.net/tiger/civilwar.html
Their culture has not shifted towards the K-strategy yet. Actually, it has pretty much shifted because of the Communists' policies, and current growth happens not because of the fertility rate but because people live longer.
Another couple of dosens years, and the population there will start slowly shrinking.
Tigers respect lions, elephants and hippos. Maggots respect no one. (C) S. Dovlatov
No, you can go to the fed aid sites and see what programs are offered. 100-200+ per month in food stamps, medical care for your kids, aid from community/religios orgs, Goverment housing assistance and other related programs.
In the past I have been rather poor so I know what it is like? How about you, every been there?
I responded to you in another post but to reiterate: just because you have friends of a particular group doesn't mean that you can be discriminatory towards them.
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Sivaram Velauthapillai
Seeking the meaning of life... @slashdot of all places
Too bad the problem with crap electronics is mainly due to design and not manufacturing. So which country is it designed in? I bet you'll find its not designed in China unless its some unknown brand. and if you buy unknown brands you only got yourself to blame.
oh nice a person from a minority group making fun of others. I bet you wouldnt like it if someone made sweeping generalizations on you, would you? cunt.
He forgot to add that you're an ass as well.
I think there's something else frightening away the silly moderators. . . At least I rate bad moderation rather than ridicule this round. That's usually a sign that I got past the first layer of, "NO, NO! DO NOT THINK," programming.
Anybody too frightened to consider whole idea sets is a coward on a leash.
-FL
I recall that The Economist (amoung others) made the interesting point that the best estimates for the cost of the Chinese space program is pretty much the same as the amount of direct foreign aid given to China by other nations.
"In the USA most of them live that way because they want to"
Yaaa! I live in the USA and i know all poor people are poor because they want to!
CIA Factbook 2002 (US):"Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households
At the rate NASA is deteriorating and the China space programming, China will the the pre-eminent space power in 10-15 years.
Ed Lu was up there for six months n 2003; Leroy Chiao is going up in the next round.
The US has had 17 deaths in US spacecraft (3 in the launch pad fire, 7 on Challenger, 7 on Columbia), and 280 people have flown in US spacecraft. (seeAmerican Astronauts )
Death rate for those flying in US spacecraft:
6.0%
6% is an EXTREMELY high death rate for any "safe" activity. Sure, when something breaks, NASA tells us that space travel is still unsafe and experimental, but their actions belie their words: they think it's safe enough to fly three senators and a teacher.
By comparison, I did some checking on US wars back to the Civil War; the killed-in-action rate for the war is lower than 6% in every case. That's right, boys and girls, you're more likely to be killed in a US spacecraft than by an enemy bullet in a war. In the US civil war, if you consider deaths from disease, and if you consider the Confederate army also, the death rate is a whopping 19%, so war is not all fun and games.
On the other hand, since a failure generally kills everyone aboard and doesn't leave you wounded, we could look at the percentage of "dead" missions. I'm not sure exactly what to count as dead; would Apollo 13 count, for example? A quick and dirty calculation for the shuttle program is 2 (number of destroyed shuttles / 107 (number of shuttle missions). This is less than 2% and is comparable to the KIA rate in the Viet Nam war.
I believe some indians stinks because some indians said so
I'm glad you think I'm so stupid. It was actually a joke. And I don't care if it IS offensive.
I could really give a shit LESS about what caused deeper socialoligal phenomenon influencing China's overpopulation. But I'm still 100% sure it was too much fucking.
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You're being a bit onesided about sex here. It isn't always the male, it can just as well be the female who needs it. Just as some societies perform ritual "cutting out" of female pleasure zones in order to prohibit them from feeling pleasure, so do others tend to instill emotions of guilt on feeling pleasure. It's just another way of "cutting out" the pleasure zones. All it adds up to is that some women need to feel forced before they can surrender to pleasure; they don't allow themselves to take pleasure from the pure desire of sharing because they've been taught it's a sin to like something like that whereas it is the most natural thing you can like and share with the one you love. I'm not saying it's good, but I am saying you shouldn't be onesided, even if trying to make a point, or trying to make other people make a point by response.
This is mostly caused by cultural differences and lack of proper driver training.
I agree that many Asian immigrants have poor driving skills. However, at best it's impolite to joke about it. It's such a cheap shot, too. Come up with something clever!
Ukrainians speak broken English even after they've been here for years. I have a Ukranian friend who says so too.