Well, true, and if the charge is fraud then it's easily dismissed. But there's no guarantee that it is fraud. ..
Take three. I only addressed the OPs claims about fraud, nothing else.
. ..just as if I produced a fake $100 bill, I'd be arrested
The government itself publishes guidelines for creating fake $100 bills without fear of arrest. They are necessary props in a number of professions, particularly the performing arts.
People get very hung up on "intent" and generally seem to assume it's either applied to everything in law or nothing. In practice, it seriously depends on the law (and often area of law) in question.
And ultimately held up to interpretation by a judge/jury in a particular case.
. ..the Constitution was written in order to strengthen the federal government, albeit in a limited way. That's way the Constitution was so controversial when it was being ratified.
Knowing what behaviors/qualities a gene effects is a very far cry from knowing how a complete organism goes about its business. Remember, this is poke it and see what happens reverse engineering of a very complex system.
How's WINE coming along these days? I know it's hard to believe but the Windows API isn't nearly as complex as the genetics of a bee.
Knowing how an organism goes about its business can be a far cry from how a robot should go about its business.
Do you really want robots spiraling in toward every lamp post?
But have you forgotten that this fellow published his widget on the net, and allowed anybody at all access to it?
No, I haven't. Fraud requires that someone be defrauded. Not lied to, not mislead, but defrauded.
I have addressed no other issue.
For example, if you have enough crack in your possession, the jury is allowed to decide -- and probably will decide -- that you have ipso facto the intent to distribute it. ..
Juries are allowed to decide that you had intent to distribute because you were wearing a plaid shirt. There is no accounting for juries.
Otherwise, you know, you couldn't be prosecuted for faking a bill of sale for a car, or a life insurance policy, or printing counterfeit currency, or most other forms of fraud that involve a printed document -- and you surely can.
I just created a fake bill of sale for a car. I have committed no crime, because I have not proffered it as genuine to anybody.
Do people really have an expecation of privacy while in a public area?
Privacy? No. But that doesn't mean they should have an expectation of harrassment either. One of my trades is violins in the streets (baroomp-boomp) and post 9/11 and with the rise of security cameras on the streets I have begun to exerience this harrassment where I never have before (including in a city where I do what I do at the specific behest of the Chamber of Commerce and the Mayor). One officer sent out to run me off was actually wearing a flack jacket and told me to "Put the violin down" in a manner that suggested he viewed it in the same way as he would a sawed off.
Perhaps they need to train the computers/officers to tell the difference between violins in the streets and violas in the streets.
Every graduate from the Naval Academy receives a BS, even if you major in English. Seriously.
As that is what Congress has authorized them to award. I'm familiar with the phenomenon in reverse, my own undergraduate college being a liberal arts school where every graduate recieves a BA, even if you major in physics.
But back in Shepard's day, there was only one program, no majors - so the geeks and the jocks took the same classes.
S'ok. I just feel a personal obligation to stick up for anyone who in any way might be remotely construed as performing some benefit for Lady Sarah.
How he's going to atone for his role in the creation of Word, Excel and Hungarian notation is another matter. I suppose he could start by accepting a set of my special, hand knit Tux Scarves, but I'll expect him to buy me a cup of coffee as a further gesture of good will - served in an Aston-Martin DB9.
Why not use the money to advocate better education, books, and a series of talks by prominent astronauts or the like?
From Wikipedia:
Simonyi has been an active philanthropist, establishing the Charles Simonyi Professor of the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University, the first occupant of which is Richard Dawkins. In January 2004, Simonyi created the $50 million Charles Simonyi Fund for Arts and Sciences, through which Simonyi plans to support Seattle area arts, science, and educational programs. Initial grant recipients include the Seattle Symphony ($10 million), and the Seattle Public Library ($3 million). In 2005, the Fund donated $25 million to the Institute for Advanced Study.
Apparently if you've got something approaching serious money there isn't any reason you can't do all that and go for a joy ride.
Well, the first couple of batches were fighter jocks, actually, hard men with extensive combat experience; but that didn't preclude them from being geeks/nerds as well.
The first American in space, Alan Shepard, had a Bachelor of Science from Annapolis.
Or take the first two men on the moon (please). Neil Armstrong had a Bachelor of Science from Purdue and a Master of Aeronautical Engineering from USC (and had been accepted at MIT). Buzz Aldrin majored in Science at West Point and eventually earned a PhD from MIT.
Wow! You mean that music symbols are closed and proprietary?
Of course not, that's why he wants ABC/Lilypond files - so he can have freshly typeset standard notation sheet from human readable and editable source notation instead of crappy scans of degraded hundred year old sheet (because while the source material may be in the public domain, recent printed editions are not) - with midifiles for performance reference thrown in as a bonus.
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Well, true, and if the charge is fraud then it's easily dismissed. But there's no guarantee that it is fraud. . .
.just as if I produced a fake $100 bill, I'd be arrested
Take three. I only addressed the OPs claims about fraud, nothing else.
. .
The government itself publishes guidelines for creating fake $100 bills without fear of arrest. They are necessary props in a number of professions, particularly the performing arts.
People get very hung up on "intent" and generally seem to assume it's either applied to everything in law or nothing. In practice, it seriously depends on the law (and often area of law) in question.
And ultimately held up to interpretation by a judge/jury in a particular case.
KFG
I know that the examples are a little excessive, but they are the same grounds.
The Nazis did not produce forged documents to evade security. The Jews produced forged documents to evade security.
KFG
Yes.
KFG
Just show it where you store your DRM music. . .
On a DRMed music free disc you can search forever.
KFG
. . .the Constitution was written in order to strengthen the federal government, albeit in a limited way. That's way the Constitution was so controversial when it was being ratified.
And why it required ten amendments before it was.
KFG
Ford makes it difficult for others to make Ford cars not explode.
http://www.fuelsafe.com/mustang.htm
KFG
Knowing what behaviors/qualities a gene effects is a very far cry from knowing how a complete organism goes about its business. Remember, this is poke it and see what happens reverse engineering of a very complex system.
How's WINE coming along these days? I know it's hard to believe but the Windows API isn't nearly as complex as the genetics of a bee.
Knowing how an organism goes about its business can be a far cry from how a robot should go about its business.
Do you really want robots spiraling in toward every lamp post?
KFG
Gee thanks, now I'm going to spend the rest of the day imagining cows flitting from flower to flower gathering pollen.
KFG
. . .whatever the goal of xhtml is. . .
Marketing brochures and sales catalogs.
KFG
Bless you my child.
KFG
But have you forgotten that this fellow published his widget on the net, and allowed anybody at all access to it?
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No, I haven't. Fraud requires that someone be defrauded. Not lied to, not mislead, but defrauded.
I have addressed no other issue.
For example, if you have enough crack in your possession, the jury is allowed to decide -- and probably will decide -- that you have ipso facto the intent to distribute it. .
Juries are allowed to decide that you had intent to distribute because you were wearing a plaid shirt. There is no accounting for juries.
KFG
I only addressed the post I addressed.
KFG
Let the victim come forward and file a complaint.
KFG
Otherwise, you know, you couldn't be prosecuted for faking a bill of sale for a car, or a life insurance policy, or printing counterfeit currency, or most other forms of fraud that involve a printed document -- and you surely can.
I just created a fake bill of sale for a car. I have committed no crime, because I have not proffered it as genuine to anybody.
Fraud is a crime of intent.
KFG
The prosecutors would never file a criminal case, because it would be quickly thrown out on First Amendment grounds?
We don't need no stinkin' court.
KFG
I really don't get it. Why continue to do something after it's been proven ineffective?
"Stop crying. If you want to cry I'll give you something to cry about. Whack! There, how did you like that? Now stop crying."
There's really no accounting for the behavior of people. That's why, on the whole I prefer hanging out with cats.
KFG
Besides, if they really want to see the gears of war trailer...give it a week, I'm sure it will be all over the internet, youtube, google video, etc.
Whether patience is a virtue or not might well be debatable, but it can certainly save you a lot of money.
KFG
Do people really have an expecation of privacy while in a public area?
Privacy? No. But that doesn't mean they should have an expectation of harrassment either. One of my trades is violins in the streets (baroomp-boomp) and post 9/11 and with the rise of security cameras on the streets I have begun to exerience this harrassment where I never have before (including in a city where I do what I do at the specific behest of the Chamber of Commerce and the Mayor). One officer sent out to run me off was actually wearing a flack jacket and told me to "Put the violin down" in a manner that suggested he viewed it in the same way as he would a sawed off.
Perhaps they need to train the computers/officers to tell the difference between violins in the streets and violas in the streets.
KFG
Every graduate from the Naval Academy receives a BS, even if you major in English. Seriously.
As that is what Congress has authorized them to award. I'm familiar with the phenomenon in reverse, my own undergraduate college being a liberal arts school where every graduate recieves a BA, even if you major in physics.
But back in Shepard's day, there was only one program, no majors - so the geeks and the jocks took the same classes.
Because the intent was to graduate gentlemen.
KFG
S'ok. I just feel a personal obligation to stick up for anyone who in any way might be remotely construed as performing some benefit for Lady Sarah.
How he's going to atone for his role in the creation of Word, Excel and Hungarian notation is another matter. I suppose he could start by accepting a set of my special, hand knit Tux Scarves, but I'll expect him to buy me a cup of coffee as a further gesture of good will - served in an Aston-Martin DB9.
KFG
From Wikipedia:
Apparently if you've got something approaching serious money there isn't any reason you can't do all that and go for a joy ride.
KFG
The bastards! Now we'll have to go to twice infinity just to try to keep up.
KFG
I for one welcome our slide rules bearing jocks overlords....
Beats the shit out of the nuns. Ya ever been rapped across the knuckles with a Pickett N4-ES?
KFG
Well, the first couple of batches were fighter jocks, actually, hard men with extensive combat experience; but that didn't preclude them from being geeks/nerds as well.
The first American in space, Alan Shepard, had a Bachelor of Science from Annapolis.
Or take the first two men on the moon (please). Neil Armstrong had a Bachelor of Science from Purdue and a Master of Aeronautical Engineering from USC (and had been accepted at MIT). Buzz Aldrin majored in Science at West Point and eventually earned a PhD from MIT.
Jocks with slide rules. It happens.
KFG
Wow! You mean that music symbols are closed and proprietary?
Of course not, that's why he wants ABC/Lilypond files - so he can have freshly typeset standard notation sheet from human readable and editable source notation instead of crappy scans of degraded hundred year old sheet (because while the source material may be in the public domain, recent printed editions are not) - with midifiles for performance reference thrown in as a bonus.
KFG