Besides, its misleading to say that "evolution is true". Evolutionary fact observed in the lab is true. Evolutionary theory is a MODEL that we STRIVE to MAKE true and is the best model we currently have. If it were TRUE, we'd be done. No more to discover. Rather, it is a gradually improving approximation.
I am getting tired of this argument (even if you mean it well). By this logic nothing is "true". The only true thing about an "evolutonary fact in the lab" is that SOMETHING happend. Our understanding of WHAT happend is also based on "just" a model. Nothing, not even math is "true" in this sense. Everything has to be derived from some unprovable assumptions.
Now, how about we think "very very likely" wenn we say true and get this argument out of the way?
So, by the same argument, the same princip should apply to nuclear weapons and nations? Hence deterence is the only defence agains other nuclear nations it's the only reasonable consequence....or we could try to limit nuclear stock world wide...but that's crazy talk, of course.
Further, the extinguisher analogy is a really bad one. It gets better if you assume any extinguisher could explode any moment and lead to the fire, it's ment to prevent. Such an extinguisher would be actually baned, and rightly so.
Having a gun doesn't guarantee your safety either. Everyone having a gun only elevates the violence level - it won't protect you from being shot in the back and will rather lead to "bad guy" shooting first. A house intrusion scenario is a more realistic one, but you don't need a right to carry a weapon everywhere around then.
Yeah, you can always chant FREEDOM and get a stadion full of supporters on the other side of the ocean, no matter what your believes are. Complex problems with such a diverse views on them can rarely be solved by one word. Even if you repeat it in an infinite loop and all caps.
Don't get me wrong, over here it's the same, FREEDOM is just changed to SAFETY.
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Equating truth with "very very likely" seems like a great idea!
Can't say if you are being ironic, but "very very likely" is as far as anyone of us can get. Downside of being human, you know.
Besides, its misleading to say that "evolution is true". Evolutionary fact observed in the lab is true. Evolutionary theory is a MODEL that we STRIVE to MAKE true and is the best model we currently have. If it were TRUE, we'd be done. No more to discover. Rather, it is a gradually improving approximation.
I am getting tired of this argument (even if you mean it well). By this logic nothing is "true". The only true thing about an "evolutonary fact in the lab" is that SOMETHING happend. Our understanding of WHAT happend is also based on "just" a model. Nothing, not even math is "true" in this sense. Everything has to be derived from some unprovable assumptions.
Now, how about we think "very very likely" wenn we say true and get this argument out of the way?
So, it would be not as sad, if it had been two genetecally different groups killing each other?
I was constantly molested by Microsoft's products, when i was young...i can't trust an operating system any more.
You can do whatever you want...just be ready to accept the consequences.
Fixed it for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-cpzGWVwE
First our economy, now this....
So, by the same argument, the same princip should apply to nuclear weapons and nations? Hence deterence is the only defence agains other nuclear nations it's the only reasonable consequence....or we could try to limit nuclear stock world wide...but that's crazy talk, of course.
Further, the extinguisher analogy is a really bad one. It gets better if you assume any extinguisher could explode any moment and lead to the fire, it's ment to prevent. Such an extinguisher would be actually baned, and rightly so.
Having a gun doesn't guarantee your safety either. Everyone having a gun only elevates the violence level - it won't protect you from being shot in the back and will rather lead to "bad guy" shooting first. A house intrusion scenario is a more realistic one, but you don't need a right to carry a weapon everywhere around then.
Yeah, you can always chant FREEDOM and get a stadion full of supporters on the other side of the ocean, no matter what your believes are. Complex problems with such a diverse views on them can rarely be solved by one word. Even if you repeat it in an infinite loop and all caps. Don't get me wrong, over here it's the same, FREEDOM is just changed to SAFETY.