Where could he have worked that he would not have been competing with red hat then where he could use his skills. Sorry, that's just not cool to say that someone can't make a living.
Anyhow, while RH and VA market to the same group, it is a bit much to call us competitors. I mean, we ship red hat on our boxes all the time.
As far as N.C. and his contract, Raster wasn't under contract, he was an employee, and he didn't go home to work with his bud, if so, he'd be in austrailia. So while you may take it as sleasy, and I understand why you feel this way, I disagree with you.
Okay, assuming we were that kind of company, do you think that we could even control E development (or it's developers) I mean, mandrake and raster are free thinkers who would not allow such a thing. Again, we have no intention of such a thing, but even if we did!
Yep, it's a really bitchin digital storage scope, so it's got a pc backend to handle the data work. I don't know how far he has gotten on interfacing the hardware.
The probes on the thing are un-freaking believeable, really things of beauty, they each come with accessories in their own little leatherette case.
Leonard Zubkoff - Raid/Scsi HJ Liu - NFS/Bin Tools
Hell larry's done some kernel code (the one I remember is the 2.0.x patch to detect the >^4 limit on some bios'). We are a little light in the kernel space though, but we make up for it in otehr areas, we're pretty happy about the team we are growing here. This is not even mentioning San Mehat, Mandrake, Mark and the rest.
Boy, I don't want to talk to much about this, as I have -no- clue as to what the SEC would see as illegal, so I'm not comforatble talking aobut actual shares and stuff. It's actually harder than just granting stock to developers because, in reality, where do we stop, I mean there are tens of thousands of them out there. So that is what we are wrestling with, how do we reqrd the commmunity while not alienating/insulting it with some bullsh*t token gesture. This is what I was hired to do (among other things)
In the short term, we are trying to payback the community from whence we came in the following ways
Hosting projects
Hardware donations (debian/fsf/others)
Outright hiring people to work on free projects (those that have somethign to do with va nad those that have little to do with VA)
Joining organizations that we feel are important to OSS (li,x/open)
Donating to FSF
Running linux.com in a very community way
Of course open sourcing whatever we do.
Helping new proejcts get off the ground
Helping out lugs (somethign near to my heart)
Helping prominant developers with travel/hotel for tradeshows and such.
But we are not really satisified with just this. I'd actually like to solicit help, if you have a good idea, email me at chris@valinux.com with your suggestion.
Post IPO, look for us to
Expand the above
Endow open source chairs at universities.
Offer Scholarships.
Expand how we can help out in the lugs and such.
Offering financial/hardware support to those projects that we have not been able to help yet.
and more, hopefully.
This is obviously only the beginning, so there you go. Email me:-)
It was like eating dog chow.Ugh...not to mention the fact that he wanted us to eat vegimite. *shudder*
Chris DiBona VA Linux Systems.
-- Grant Chair, Linux Int. VP, SVLUG
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No you are right, I did a big slap o' the head on myself for that, but it's not that big of a deal, a man's allowed to make mistakes:-) If this is the worst representation of me in the press, I'm happy.
jobs is overwhelmed, if you've made it this far on the thread, email me and I'll try to see if you are someone that would be appropriate for va. Jobs gets 100's of emails a day, sometimes more after being slashdotted.
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That's kind of you to make excuses for us, but dropping the ball on this guys order sucked, so we're trying to fix it, no-one should drop through the cracks.
Hypergrowth is very tricky though, I mean, I started in november and va has sextupled in size. Sheeze.
Chris
VA Linux Systems.
-- Grant Chair, Linux Int. VP, SVLUG
We worry about that too.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence, but they're okay guys, the get it, although our apple guy is rather obsessed by UI's,but that's to be expected.
One of the things we faced in growing was that people who were experts in manufacturing or such were perhaps not from the linux community, so we have had to have them drink our brand of kool aid.
A couple of them didn't get it at first, but they came around. It has been important to VA that as we grow that we hire a ton of linux people to keep the balance even, and we feel that we've done a great job.
This is a problem, I'll look into it right now, if you'd like to call me personally, please call 408-542-8600 x 8606, but be sure I'll track down what the hell happened.
In case anyone didn't know, Sam Ockman hates my guts and hates VA. IT's too bad that he can't get past it. So he comes on Slashdot and tries to attack me and VA personally.It's pretty funny actually.
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
-- Grant Chair, Linux Int. VP, SVLUG
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We have the same debates here too, to wit:
Will the influences of companies, even hard core linux companies like VA, cause the creative spirit behind linux and it's advances to die a death of ennui?
We , obviously, hope the answer is no, and we have taken the course of hiring coding gods like mandrake and mark and such as a way of sort of building a hot house of linux development, we think that any negatives that may be imposed in a corporate setting (which we have done our best to minimize) are more than made up by the proximity (yes phyiscal, and yes, I know about IRC:-) of other, well, brilliant linux hackers.
We also think that by having these guys work full time on Linux results in,well, more Linux. I mean I think we can all agree that Linux has come an amazing distance with what amounts to as spare and part time work, so imagine what it will be like with people working full time.
Anyhow, enough philosophy, back to coding.
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
-- Grant Chair, Linux Int. VP, SVLUG
Prominant Austrailian Linux Gurn
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Actually, we lost Andrew Tridgell to Linuxcare, where he'll be doing good work.
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Anyhow, while RH and VA market to the same group, it is a bit much to call us competitors. I mean, we ship red hat on our boxes all the time.
As far as N.C. and his contract, Raster wasn't under contract, he was an employee, and he didn't go home to work with his bud, if so, he'd be in austrailia. So while you may take it as sleasy, and I understand why you feel this way, I disagree with you.
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Of coure your 8) shows you get the joke you made!
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems.
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
The probes on the thing are un-freaking believeable, really things of beauty, they each come with accessories in their own little leatherette case.
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Seriously, my co-workers are nothing short of the smartest, hardest working people I know, I'm proud to work here. You are, to put it simply, wrong.
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems Inc.
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems.
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
HJ Liu - NFS/Bin Tools
Hell larry's done some kernel code (the one I remember is the 2.0.x patch to detect the >^4 limit on some bios'). We are a little light in the kernel space though, but we make up for it in otehr areas, we're pretty happy about the team we are growing here. This is not even mentioning San Mehat, Mandrake, Mark and the rest.
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems.
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
In the short term, we are trying to payback the community from whence we came in the following ways
Hosting projects
Hardware donations (debian/fsf/others)
Outright hiring people to work on free projects (those that have somethign to do with va nad those that have little to do with VA)
Joining organizations that we feel are important to OSS (li,x/open)
Donating to FSF
Running linux.com in a very community way
Of course open sourcing whatever we do.
Helping new proejcts get off the ground
Helping out lugs (somethign near to my heart)
Helping prominant developers with travel/hotel for tradeshows and such.
But we are not really satisified with just this. I'd actually like to solicit help, if you have a good idea, email me at chris@valinux.com with your suggestion.
Post IPO, look for us to
Expand the above
Endow open source chairs at universities.
Offer Scholarships.
Expand how we can help out in the lugs and such.
Offering financial/hardware support to those projects that we have not been able to help yet.
and more, hopefully.
This is obviously only the beginning, so there you go. Email me :-)
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems.
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
chris@valinux.com Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Hypergrowth is very tricky though, I mean, I started in november and va has sextupled in size. Sheeze.
Chris
VA Linux Systems.
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
One of the things we faced in growing was that people who were experts in manufacturing or such were perhaps not from the linux community, so we have had to have them drink our brand of kool aid.
A couple of them didn't get it at first, but they came around. It has been important to VA that as we grow that we hire a ton of linux people to keep the balance even, and we feel that we've done a great job.
Chris
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Who'd you send it to?
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Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
We have the same debates here too, to wit:
Will the influences of companies, even hard core linux companies like VA, cause the creative spirit behind linux and it's advances to die a death of ennui?
We , obviously, hope the answer is no, and we have taken the course of hiring coding gods like mandrake and mark and such as a way of sort of building a hot house of linux development, we think that any negatives that may be imposed in a corporate setting (which we have done our best to minimize) are more than made up by the proximity (yes phyiscal, and yes, I know about IRC :-) of other, well, brilliant linux hackers.
We also think that by having these guys work full time on Linux results in ,well, more Linux. I mean I think we can all agree that Linux has come an amazing distance with what amounts to as spare and part time work, so imagine what it will be like with people working full time.
Anyhow, enough philosophy, back to coding.
Chris DiBona
VA Linux Systems
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Chris DiBona
--
Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG