Can it read IMAP mail? And deal with x.509 certificates? The point is that if the OS is Linux, Windows or Symbian, then I can probably get an email program that can do those things and copy it to the phone and run it on the phone. So the fact that it runs a proper OS does matter to some. Yes, I agree the fact that it's Linux is not that important.
I'm sure you have a good phone and if the PDA functionality includes the above, then let me know, I'm looking for such a phone. Cheers.
No, the point is exactly tha you get Linux there. If you got the same performance with Symbian or Windows then it would be equally impressive. s55 might be a nice phone and all, but you probably can't add any extra software (except Java stuff). Could you make s55 play Ogg files? Probably not. Can you get programs for Windows, Symbian, Linux phones, that play Oggs. Probably yes.
That's the whole point you get a more flexible OS, not so huge phone and a still a decent battery life.
Yes, I still get nearly a week of standby on my four years old Sony phone (640mAh battery). I don't get GPRS, Bluetooth, camera, colours, IMAP email client, etc. etc. that's the whole point. The new phone has a lot of nice features _and_ a decent standby time.
And why yes, on the top of all this, I'm interested to hear that it runs Linux. Linux on mobiles, on a single chipset, is "news for nerds, stuff that matters." If you don't like what Slashdot is reporting on, don't read the main section but just things that you find interesting. And if you reply to a post, please read the whole post you're replying to first, before complaining about Slashdot. Not RTFA, not reading the comments properly, posting offtopic is what makes Slashdot occasionally suck. Posting news about Linux does not.
The point is it only needs 1000mAh battery. Sure, if I have four batteries, I have standby time _four_ times as long as you.
Iff you checked the capacity of your battery and decided that your phone indeed must have lower consumption then the new phone then you have to check whether your phone runs an OS that's in the same category as Linux and _only then_ can you claim it's not impressive.
(I'm not saying you must be wrong. I'm just saying that you may be comparing apples to PCs, ooops, sorry apples to oranges)
I don't find this part of the interview all that exciting. What I find interesting is that this guy doesn't consider non-deterministic methods at all. Going back to his example of securing a corparate network: sure setting all the trust relationships by hand is next to impposible. But imagine the following scenario: all of a sudden Bob's computer starts talking to Jane's PC, after days of no traffic between the two. Doing some statistical testing this could be noticed to be highly unusual and the communication could be denied, or severely limited. This would do a great deal in stopping worms from propagating.
If it's legit and the statistical filter denies it, then Bob will have to call support. But I reckon this is prefferable to having a whole company infected by the latest worm, just because Bob decided to open the attachement "joke.exe".
You don't have to use XCode to be able to do that. In fact, if they wouldn't be bothered about producing fat binaries, they could probably just simply recompile it. Since OpenOffice is multiplatform and Java should be also, they're unlikely to run into problems because of differences in bit ordering (least significant first or most significant first?). I also don't suspect them of having produced too much PPC specific assembly code.
The unit also comes standard with a four-cell battery, which lasts approximately 2.6 hours.
This is some kind of joke isn't it? Why sell anything with a battery that would last you for less than 3 hours work? Especially if you can buy an different battery, which should last up to 6 hours, as an extra. But then it probably won't be quite as light. Hmmm. anyway, nice try, shame about the battery.
Valid point. They won't of course. I've been assuming that the major players would release appropriate versions sometime in the future. I know there are problems with this: - Quark Xpress might take ages (again, remember how long OS X version took). - Microsoft might actually not want to release office at all.
(actually maybe they could convert things on the fly and then cache the results, sort of a better emulation process... there is some mention of something along those lines on macrumors.com. It'll be a bit like running Java bytecode. They could then profile the things on the fly and optimize the most used parts of the program... JVM do all sorts of clever trickery nowdays.)
Anyway this is all purely hypothetical. Apple's not moving to x86 CPUs. As other people said, it's probably some random chip they might want from Intel.
On Intel they have SSE, MMX etc. units. Sure some software would need optimization.... but the Velocity Engine is not _that_ unique. Apple did a good job marketing it (clearly).
As for emulation, I'd think that Apple won't bother with that at all and use fat binaries instead. (they'd be quite fat if they're to include old 32-bit powerPC code, 64-bit powerPC code and x86 code as well... but it does not matter, disk space is cheap and binaries are usually less than 50% of an application anyway).
Why on Earth is this modded as flaimbait?!? Cuba is not a democratic country. And no it doesn't have the best healthcare system in the world either, but the people who believe this are probably the same ones who believed Lenin's and Stalin's propaganda in it's day. Ever heard of Potemkin's Villages? Well look it up on google. But I digress.
The connection between OS, Linux and Commies is as strong as ever in the pro MS Media, so it makes sense to mention the fact that it'd be nice if Cuba had been a proper democratic country and we could celebrate this as a real achievement for Linux.
Odd; the simulation does not work on any of the platforms I use (OS X, Linux). So no pretty pictures for me. I guess that's because Linux (or OS X) are not "enterprise ready".
Is it a coincidence that the only platform, for which one can get programs simulating the spread of worms, is MS Windows?
More to the point, the jobs going won't be R&D jobs. Not that there is anything supporting this claim in the article, but I can't imagine IBM firing 13000 coders.
In mathematics we have Fields medals and Abel prices, which in importance, are comparable to Nobel prices and yet very few people (in general public) are aware that they even exist.
I call it the most reasonable benchmark because it has thousands of contributors and covers a wide range of code purposes and individual coding habits - and yet, performance is omitted.
As someone who has done some kernel (see this old project) and other programming, I would probably disagree with this statement. The code you find in the linux kernel is rather different (think concurrency, locking, I/O waiting, message passing) to the code you'd find in a number crunching application (think for loops that take forever, huge data sets, nested recursion) which would be rather different to the code you find in something like LAME (think DSP code).
As for the coding habits, the kernel develoment process encourages similar coding habits as it makes the code easier for others to read. There would be differences between different subsystems, which brings us to another problem: where do you start benchmarking the kernel as a whole?
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You know what? If I bought an mp3 player in Netherlands and got taxed under the new law, I would feel it's my legal right to copy, distribute and share all my mp3s on p2p networks and also to download as many as I like. Because, after all, I already paid the music industry.
But the whole thing is just utterly ridiculous. I don't download any music of p2p now, but I had to pay a tax like this I'm sure I'd start just to stir things up a bit.
Btw. or I could buy the iPod in some other country.
Slashdot editors are not paid journalists (that's fakt to be taken into account, not used as an excuse). But I think they are at least impartial as the editors of any PC magazine (which are usually quite pro MS and sceptical about anything else). And if you think about it Guardian is not 100% impartial, neither are Times nor Telegraph or the Economist. If you want only news then you have to read a few different newspapers and do some sort of average.
And yes as someone said above I too read Slashdot as much for news as for opinions.
Btw. I tried the real.com website and it does not mention anything about Rhapsody. Maybe it's Windows only?
No you can't. Take London -> Birmingham as an example. You can buy cheap Chiltern tickets for trains that take ages and go via Oxford and Leam. Or you can buy more expensice Virgin tickets for trains that go via Coventry.
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Ah thanks, I never thought of that. But my excuse is that I paid for a Mac _not_ to have to go trough dialog boxes to make things "feel" right, like on KDE I used to use (Konqueror is great btw.).
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If there are two things I don't like on my PB then it's Finder and QuickTime (player).
Finder does not seem to be multithreaded, if any network communication gets stuck the whole thing does. Even on large directories it's slow. And the way it insists on showing you previews of files (using QT) and then failing. I have to admit that I only use it as application launcher and simple file operations. For anything else the command line or mc works much better.
Well, even more to the point, what if you have been forced to pay for a Microsoft license when you bought your PC (try arguing with anyone at IBM or Dell, as I have done, to sell you the computer without MS license...)?
Why should you, if you had to buy a license, not be able to get all the downloads as any other "customer"?
Yes, it might be better to wait and also the new update to OS X "Tiger" is expected around the end of March. You don't have to get the OS update 100% right, since they usually give them out for free to people who bought a new Mac few weeks before the OS update.
I'm just waiting for Tiger and then I'll try using a mac (after 7 years of running Linux on laptops... I don't have all the time to fiddle with things anymore).
P.S. check out oroborosx.sourceforge.net/ if you want to run X windows apps on your Mac.
Well in the article it says that "Sony's music players did not initially support MP3 files and only played Sony's own Atrac format.".
I think that's not correct. I've got a Sony MP3-CD player that plays mp3s (not sure about ATRAC) and I bought it couple of months after Apple introduced the first iPod (so well over two years ago). Only the next generation of Sony players started being Atrac only (stupid move of course).
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Can it read IMAP mail? And deal with x.509 certificates? The point is that if the OS is Linux, Windows or Symbian, then I can probably get an email program that can do those things and copy it to the phone and run it on the phone. So the fact that it runs a proper OS does matter to some. Yes, I agree the fact that it's Linux is not that important.
I'm sure you have a good phone and if the PDA functionality includes the above, then let me know, I'm looking for such a phone. Cheers.
No, the point is exactly tha you get Linux there. If you got the same performance with Symbian or Windows then it would be equally impressive. s55 might be a nice phone and all, but you probably can't add any extra software (except Java stuff). Could you make s55 play Ogg files? Probably not. Can you get programs for Windows, Symbian, Linux phones, that play Oggs. Probably yes.
That's the whole point you get a more flexible OS, not so huge phone and a still a decent battery life.
Yes, I still get nearly a week of standby on my four years old Sony phone (640mAh battery). I don't get GPRS, Bluetooth, camera, colours, IMAP email client, etc. etc. that's the whole point. The new phone has a lot of nice features _and_ a decent standby time.
And why yes, on the top of all this, I'm interested to hear that it runs Linux. Linux on mobiles, on a single chipset, is "news for nerds, stuff that matters." If you don't like what Slashdot is reporting on, don't read the main section but just things that you find interesting. And if you reply to a post, please read the whole post you're replying to first, before complaining about Slashdot. Not RTFA, not reading the comments properly, posting offtopic is what makes Slashdot occasionally suck. Posting news about Linux does not.
The point is it only needs 1000mAh battery. Sure, if I have four batteries, I have standby time _four_ times as long as you.
Iff you checked the capacity of your battery and decided that your phone indeed must have lower consumption then the new phone then you have to check whether your phone runs an OS that's in the same category as Linux and _only then_ can you claim it's not impressive.
(I'm not saying you must be wrong. I'm just saying that you may be comparing apples to PCs, ooops, sorry apples to oranges)
No it does. It says that Linux is the first os in it's category to run on a single chipset phone, _hence_ improving the battery usage.
I don't find this part of the interview all that exciting. What I find interesting is that this guy doesn't consider non-deterministic methods at all. Going back to his example of securing a corparate network: sure setting all the trust relationships by hand is next to impposible. But imagine the following scenario: all of a sudden Bob's computer starts talking to Jane's PC, after days of no traffic between the two. Doing some statistical testing this could be noticed to be highly unusual and the communication could be denied, or severely limited. This would do a great deal in stopping worms from propagating.
If it's legit and the statistical filter denies it, then Bob will have to call support. But I reckon this is prefferable to having a whole company infected by the latest worm, just because Bob decided to open the attachement "joke.exe".
You don't have to use XCode to be able to do that. In fact, if they wouldn't be bothered about producing fat binaries, they could probably just simply recompile it. Since OpenOffice is multiplatform and Java should be also, they're unlikely to run into problems because of differences in bit ordering (least significant first or most significant first?). I also don't suspect them of having produced too much PPC specific assembly code.
Have you ever heard of a patched roof being sounder than the original?
Apache?Well, the pcmag review is certainly more useful:
The unit also comes standard with a four-cell battery, which lasts approximately 2.6 hours.
This is some kind of joke isn't it? Why sell anything with a battery that would last you for less than 3 hours work? Especially if you can buy an different battery, which should last up to 6 hours, as an extra. But then it probably won't be quite as light. Hmmm. anyway, nice try, shame about the battery.
This might be a good starting point:
http://www.gpgpu.org/
(before you start emailing people.
Good luck.
Valid point. They won't of course. I've been assuming that the major players would release appropriate versions sometime in the future. I know there are problems with this:
- Quark Xpress might take ages (again, remember how long OS X version took).
- Microsoft might actually not want to release office at all.
(actually maybe they could convert things on the fly and then cache the results, sort of a better emulation process... there is some mention of something along those lines on macrumors.com. It'll be a bit like running Java bytecode. They could then profile the things on the fly and optimize the most used parts of the program... JVM do all sorts of clever trickery nowdays.)
Anyway this is all purely hypothetical. Apple's not moving to x86 CPUs. As other people said, it's probably some random chip they might want from Intel.
On Intel they have SSE, MMX etc. units. Sure some software would need optimization.... but the Velocity Engine is not _that_ unique. Apple did a good job marketing it (clearly).
As for emulation, I'd think that Apple won't bother with that at all and use fat binaries instead. (they'd be quite fat if they're to include old 32-bit powerPC code, 64-bit powerPC code and x86 code as well... but it does not matter, disk space is cheap and binaries are usually less than 50% of an application anyway).
Why on Earth is this modded as flaimbait?!? Cuba is not a democratic country. And no it doesn't have the best healthcare system in the world either, but the people who believe this are probably the same ones who believed Lenin's and Stalin's propaganda in it's day. Ever heard of Potemkin's Villages? Well look it up on google. But I digress.
The connection between OS, Linux and Commies is as strong as ever in the pro MS Media, so it makes sense to mention the fact that it'd be nice if Cuba had been a proper democratic country and we could celebrate this as a real achievement for Linux.
Odd; the simulation does not work on any of the platforms I use (OS X, Linux). So no pretty pictures for me. I guess that's because Linux (or OS X) are not "enterprise ready".
Is it a coincidence that the only platform, for which one can get programs simulating the spread of worms, is MS Windows?
Another temptorary solution is to run:
/System/Library/CoreServices/Dock.app/Contents/Res ources/DashboardClient.app/Contents/MacOS/Dashboar dClient
sudo chmod a-x
in the Terminal. Of course this prevents all Widgets from running.
More to the point, the jobs going won't be R&D jobs. Not that there is anything supporting this claim in the article, but I can't imagine IBM firing 13000 coders.
In mathematics we have Fields medals and Abel prices, which in importance, are comparable to Nobel prices and yet very few people (in general public) are aware that they even exist.
I call it the most reasonable benchmark because it has thousands of contributors and covers a wide range of code purposes and individual coding habits - and yet, performance is omitted.
As someone who has done some kernel (see this old project) and other programming, I would probably disagree with this statement. The code you find in the linux kernel is rather different (think concurrency, locking, I/O waiting, message passing) to the code you'd find in a number crunching application (think for loops that take forever, huge data sets, nested recursion) which would be rather different to the code you find in something like LAME (think DSP code).
As for the coding habits, the kernel develoment process encourages similar coding habits as it makes the code easier for others to read. There would be differences between different subsystems, which brings us to another problem: where do you start benchmarking the kernel as a whole?
You know what? If I bought an mp3 player in Netherlands and got taxed under the new law, I would feel it's my legal right to copy, distribute and share all my mp3s on p2p networks and also to download as many as I like. Because, after all, I already paid the music industry.
But the whole thing is just utterly ridiculous. I don't download any music of p2p now, but I had to pay a tax like this I'm sure I'd start just to stir things up a bit.
Btw. or I could buy the iPod in some other country.
Slashdot editors are not paid journalists (that's fakt to be taken into account, not used as an excuse). But I think they are at least impartial as the editors of any PC magazine (which are usually quite pro MS and sceptical about anything else). And if you think about it Guardian is not 100% impartial, neither are Times nor Telegraph or the Economist. If you want only news then you have to read a few different newspapers and do some sort of average.
And yes as someone said above I too read Slashdot as much for news as for opinions.
Btw. I tried the real.com website and it does not mention anything about Rhapsody. Maybe it's Windows only?
No you can't. Take London -> Birmingham as an example. You can buy cheap Chiltern tickets for trains that take ages and go via Oxford and Leam. Or you can buy more expensice Virgin tickets for trains that go via Coventry.
Ah thanks, I never thought of that. But my excuse is that I paid for a Mac _not_ to have to go trough dialog boxes to make things "feel" right, like on KDE I used to use (Konqueror is great btw.).
If there are two things I don't like on my PB then it's Finder and QuickTime (player).
Finder does not seem to be multithreaded, if any network communication gets stuck the whole thing does. Even on large directories it's slow. And the way it insists on showing you previews of files (using QT) and then failing. I have to admit that I only use it as application launcher and simple file operations. For anything else the command line or mc works much better.
I like the UI, but the core should be rewritten.
Well, even more to the point, what if you have been forced to pay for a Microsoft license when you bought your PC (try arguing with anyone at IBM or Dell, as I have done, to sell you the computer without MS license...)?
Why should you, if you had to buy a license, not be able to get all the downloads as any other "customer"?
Yes, it might be better to wait and also the new update to OS X "Tiger" is expected around the end of March. You don't have to get the OS update 100% right, since they usually give them out for free to people who bought a new Mac few weeks before the OS update.
I'm just waiting for Tiger and then I'll try using a mac (after 7 years of running Linux on laptops... I don't have all the time to fiddle with things anymore).
P.S. check out oroborosx.sourceforge.net/ if you want to run X windows apps on your Mac.
Well in the article it says that "Sony's music players did not initially support MP3 files and only played Sony's own Atrac format.".
I think that's not correct. I've got a Sony MP3-CD player that plays mp3s (not sure about ATRAC) and I bought it couple of months after Apple introduced the first iPod (so well over two years ago). Only the next generation of Sony players started being Atrac only (stupid move of course).