I've been very pleased with my DSL service. I live in St. Louis, MO and receive my DSL service and ISP from Southwestern Bell. In the 4 or 5 months I've had the service, I've had only one or two periods of time where I encountered problems, and even those times were very short in duration. I typically get the speed that was advertised--1.5 Mb/s download. Almost always the limiting factor is the upload speed of the server I'm connecting to. ----
I don't think you have a clear grasp of the situation at all. As a member of the Gnome 1.4 release team, I'll just say this: Expect an announcement within a week regarding 1.4 -- and it will have nothing to do with "strong arming" or/. pressure. The Foundation and the release team make decisions based on good technical merit and other factors contributing the betterment of the Gnome platform and what will benefit users as a whole.
Also, there hasn't been a "schedule" until recently (i.e. the last couple of months). There were goals and rough dates to shoot at, but no hard and fast schedule--you can't schedule that far in advance, you can only set goals. But in the last few months we have set a schedule and have done a pretty good job of sticking to our primary goal which was to release Gnome 1.4 before GUADEC. Barring any major issues this should happen. ----
GNOME has run on BSD for quite some time; that's not the point. The point is that now it's part of the GNOME project's list of reference platforms. I avoid the use of the word "support" since there's no support in the traditional sense of the word from the GNOME project itself, but BSD is a compatible platform and officially considered in the release plans. ----
Give it some time.:) A piece of software rarely changes the world at version 1.0. Did Windows 1.0 change the world or Linux 1.0? How about Word 1.0 or Emacs 1.0? ----
I was indeed aware of KDE's language bindings. It's very good to see Gnome and KDE embrace language flexibility and choice. I haven't played around with KDevelop much--didn't know it could be used for Gnome development. I'll have to give it a shot. I'm a fan of using a combination of tools to get the job done. I use gdb and vim for the most part while in UNIX and at work I'm a Visual C++ developer. ----
Actually, the Gnome codebase is quite well maintained. It's not perfect, but we're working on it. Perhaps you could list specific hard-core facts, rather than making assertions with no basis. If you do have a basis for saying that Gnome will collapse under its own weight in a few months, I'd love to hear it. As someone who has spent significant time looking at the Gnome framework, and being both a C and C++ developer, I can attest to the flexibility of the core C-based architecture with powerful bindings for languages of all sorts--C++, java, python, perl, etc. The Gnome framework, IMHO, is extremely powerful, flexible, and getting even better all the time. Now of course, if you're not used to something you may find it confusing at first.:) First time I started using C++, I thought what a hideous hack! With time I've come to appreciate the advantages of both C and C++. It's great to be able to use both. ----
The beta and release candidates are news./. has a wide viewing audience and a large percentage of./ users are Gnome or KDE users. All of the KDE betas made it to/. and why not? The more people try it out and report bugs and do testing, the better. ----
If you mean what's new since Beta1, not much. During the Beta cycle we're just fixing bugs, doing QA, and the like. As far as what's new since Gnome 1.2, here you go:
Some of the new features in Gnome 1.4 include:
User level
* Nautilus
* enhanced display manager
* better KDE interoperability
* better support for legacy X applications
* application launch feedback
* improved Panel
* integrated Sawfish window manager
* Improved help browser and help system
* Usability and quality improvements throughout
* Fifth Toe release including a broad collection of apps that run on
GNOME.
Developer level
* gnome-vfs - Virtual file system allowing transparent access to local
and remote files.
* Bonobo component model - technology preview
* xml-i18n-tools - better internationalization and localization tools
* GConf - Advanced configuration/settings system with notification and
pluggable back ends
* Medusa search/indexing system
* Laguage bindings - C++, python, guile, rep
The Fifth Toe is a set of applications that are not part of Gnome proper but work with Gnome. They include office applications, games, a few panel applets, utilities, and chat programs. ----
I don't know which version of Nautilus you tested most recently, but from my experience with running the hourly builds, I have to say Nautilus has become a lot faster. The Nautilus hackers are certainly addressing performance issues. A lot of the major performance tuning will probably have to come post-1.0, but expect Nautilus 1.0 to certainly be usable in terms of performance. Some of the major bottlenecks right now involve gnome-vfs and bonobo, two rapidly developing, yet new technologies. As these frameworks mature, look to see applications such as Nautilus that use them also improve. You can think of Gnome 1.4 as sort of a stepping stone to Gnome 2.0. Gnome 1.4 introduces some new technologies such as Bonobo, gnome-vfs, and the Nautilus architecture. During the development of Gnome 2.0 applications will be ported to the new GTK+ 2.0 toolkit, Bonobo, gnome-vfs, Nautilus, et. al. will be improved upon, and more applications will make use of these new technologies. This means more testing, more patches from more people and a better environment from which to work. If Nautilus is just too slow for you, you can still use gmc--we've included it in the Gnome Fifth Toe as a deprecated, but still available application. Keep trying out the builds of Nautilus, though--It's improving very quickly! ----
Computer Engineering deals more with low-level stuff..not just hardware, but the theory behind Electrical Engineering. I would suggest taking at least two Electrical Engineering classes while taking some Computer Science classes. See where your interest and talent lies. For me After to EE classes, I asked myself, "What the hell are you thinking? You don't care about how a transistor really works at this low a level!" And I immediately switched to straight Computer Science. On the other hand, a lot of people really love that stuff. Try and see. ----
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Does GNOME have any comparable programs? Star Office? Mozilla? Abiword? Those are not even GNOME programs, although they can be "GNOME-ified" (Galeon, Open Office). There is Nautilis, but that is an outside project as well. If we want to talk about outside projects, I could bring up [TheKompany], but there is no need. The core KDE team does enough work themselves to warrant this posting.
AbiWord is a Gnome program. In fact it is shipping with Gnome 1.4 Fifth Toe, a collection of applications outside of Gnome proper that work well with Gnome. AbiWord now ships in two versions, straight gtk+ and Gnome.
There are many successful Gnome applications out there. First of all I'd like to address your point you make about Nautilus being an "outside project." If you spent any time in #gnome or #nautilus on gimpnet you might know what I mean. Nautilus is in Gnome CVS and receives thousands of manhours outside of Eazel in terms of development, testing, and ideas. Eazel and Ximan, two companies who do Gnome development are made up of some of the best Gnome hackers around who are very much a part of the community. There are also many successful Gnome applications which receive no corporate sponsorship, though I don't see why that should be a sticking point (all the code is GPL'd and community involvement is encouraged). GStreamer, The Gimp (Gnome-ification such as using Bonobo as a component framework is planned), GnomeICU (the best ICQ client I've see yet), Gabber (the best jabber client for Linux/Unix I've seen yet, gPhoto, Gnumeric (An amazing piece of software with very elegant code), GnuCash, X-Chat, etc. Not to mention Evolution, Ximian Setup Tools, and Red Carpet, offered by Ximian. With an estimated over half-million downloads of the Ximian distribution of the Gnome 1.2 desktop, Sun and HP announcing they will Ship Gnome 2.0 (replacing the long time Unix Desktop CDE) in their Unix offerings, Dell to ship Gnome on their Linux desktops and laptops, tools falling into place rapidly to provide a full-featured Office suite (Open Office + Gnumeric, AbiWord, Sodipodi, Guppi, touxdoux and the other Gnome Office apps), system administration (XST), PIM and Groupware (Evolution) all built around an outstading architecture including a component model built around a long-time standard in the unix world (CORBA) and modeled heavily after a proven component architecture, Microsoft's COM, I'd say that's a success. Sorry, a long winded answer to a simple question. The short answer is Yes.
There's no reason GNOME can't catch up, but at this point KDE is obviously ahead of GNOME, but that's a given since KDE started first anyway.
I disagree. KDE has strengths over Gnome and vice versa. I personally use Gnome because it has the features/look&feel/applications that I want and no other desktop provides. And I'm a developer and am extremely excited about the Gnome framework, especially stuff coming down the pipes. Keep your eyes and ears open, folks. The next couple of years are going to be crazy!
Congratulations to the KDE team for their hard work on the release. Kudos! I look forward to further cooperation between Gnome and KDE. I think a unified component architecture (like is planned for XP-COM, UNO, and Bonobo) would be particularly exciting.
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Still, a lot of larger companies that have well funded interesting projects you might be interested in have degree requirements. I know AT&T requires ~10 years in the field without a degree and others will be forces into restricting your pay for a period if you are hired without one.
Absolutely. Many of the positions I looked into did require specific degrees. I wouldn't advise anyone to drop out of school. But it is interesting to notice how the market is changing somewhat; IT positions are in such high demand. I think that one of the major influences the Open Source Revolution will have on the market is produce a supply of developers (without or without formal education or training at a corporation) that are more than capable of fulfilling the demand of the market.
Perhaps getting a degree via night school would be the best option for you. If your current role evaporates (can in some lines of work) then you may like having that piece of paper to fall back on. But then again some people are so well motivated and so skilled at presenting themselves professionally that it doesn't matter.
I would like to do that. The company I work for now offers tuition reimbursement, which is really nice. I've already started checking out evening classes at some local colleges and universities. It does feel sometimes like my 2 years were somewhat in vain...I'd like very much to complete what I started.
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An Educational Co-op is a program in which students work in a coporate environment for a period of time, often a semeseter, usually taking off from school. The idea is that the student receives valuable experience and more ammo with which to base his or her career choices. The employer receives cheap labour and the opportunity to tempt the student worker into coming on board full-time upon graduation, already trained (at a cheap rate) and spun-up. I took a full-year off of school (after my sophomore year at Washington University in St. Louis, MO) to participate in two co-ops, one at the Washington University Electronic Radiology Lab, and the other at Unigraphics Solutions, Inc. After working full-time for a year at $14/hour (sure beats washing dishes at your local bar and grill), it was very difficult to motivate myself to go back to school. In fact I dropped out two weeks into my junior year to pursue a career without a degree. What I found is that a large number of companies viewed my year of experience and my involvement in the open source community as more valuable than the piece of paper saying I had a bachelors. I somehow expected the degree to be the all-crucial key to getting a job in the tech industry. ----
I'm not much of an expert on medusa, but as I understand it, medusa allows more powerful searching than slocate. Medusa allows you to search based on URI's. So you can search for files that are of type music, owned by a particular user, and modified between this date and some other. For more information on the URI's medusa supports or will support check out search_uri_rfc from GNOME CVS. Also from the README:
Medusa FAQ:
1. How is medusa different than slocate?
Medusa is able to find files by their names quickly. However, medusa is also able to find files by their path, size, content, and owner, or
in any combination.
2. Indexing takes a long time! When will this get better?
Indexing your whole drive does take a long time, and we hope to improve this as much as possible. To some degree, however, this is a byproduct of the slowness of hard drives. However, we hope to introduce "incremental" indexing soon, so that files will only get reindexed when they are altered after the last indexing.
A partial list of new features can be found in this post. Gnome 1.4 took longer to release than originally anticipated. The reason for this is simple: it wasn't ready until now. ----
Mozilla 0.8 was released while the beta process was still going on. Switching would have delayed the release. Beta 1 isn't perfect.:) But we're working on it. Look for M 0.8 to be used in future releases. ----
* Nautilus
* enhanced display manager
* better KDE interoperability
* better support for legacy X applications
* application launch feedback
* improved Panel
* integrated Sawfish window manager
* Improved help browser and help system
* Usability and quality improvements throughout
* Fifth Toe release including a broad collection of apps that run on
GNOME.
Developer level
* gnome-vfs - Virtual file system allowing transparent access to local
and remote files.
* Bonobo component model - technology preview
* xml-i18n-tools - better internationalization and localization tools
* GConf - Advanced configuration/settings system with notification and
pluggable back ends
* Medusa search/indexing system
* Laguage bindings - C++, python, guile, rep
The Fifth Toe is a set of applications that are not part of Gnome proper but work with Gnome. They include office applications, games, a few panel applets, utilities, and chat programs. Here's a list of the current set of Fifth Toe packages:
The Fifth Toe packages can be found (in tarball form) on ftp.gnome.org (and soon they'll propagate to the mirors) in the pub/gnome/stable/betas/gnome-fifth-toe-1.4beta1 directory. ----
The Fifth Toe is a release of packages that are not part of Gnome proper but work with Gnome. They include things like office applications, utilities, applets, games, and chat programs. They can be found in pub/gnome/stable/betas/gnome-fifth-toe-1.4beta1 on ftp.gnome.org and should soon propagate to the mirrors. ----
Please blame me for not reading enough and not asking around enough, but wasn't SUN going to:
1. Break staroffice as a package apart and building it into an opensource office package made up of CORBA objects so it could be used in different GNOME applications?
The source to Star Office has been opened. The Open Office hackers are working on merging the component architectures. They already have an early working version of a component you can embed in Nautilus.
2. When will solaris be shipped with GNOME as the default desktop?
At Gnome version 2.0. In the meantime you can certainly download Solaris packages of Gnome. Try the Ximian distribution of the Gnome desktop.
. When will SUN ship it's systems with a protocol a bit less bloated than X? (Ica?)
Huh? What major UNIX vendor ships with something other than X? What realistic alternatives are there now? Framebuffer? Berlin? I think not, at this time. ----
Hey, I'm not gung-ho about.NOT either. I was just pointing out that you can download the BETA version of the framework. I'm sort of skeptical about.NET, though I think it has the potential to be a powerful cross-platform framework. I guess it's Microsoft's trackrecord that leads me to believe they will only push their products and platforms down everyone's throat. We'll see. ----
Slashdot Mirror
I've been very pleased with my DSL service. I live in St. Louis, MO and receive my DSL service and ISP from Southwestern Bell. In the 4 or 5 months I've had the service, I've had only one or two periods of time where I encountered problems, and even those times were very short in duration. I typically get the speed that was advertised--1.5 Mb/s download. Almost always the limiting factor is the upload speed of the server I'm connecting to.
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Also, there hasn't been a "schedule" until recently (i.e. the last couple of months). There were goals and rough dates to shoot at, but no hard and fast schedule--you can't schedule that far in advance, you can only set goals. But in the last few months we have set a schedule and have done a pretty good job of sticking to our primary goal which was to release Gnome 1.4 before GUADEC. Barring any major issues this should happen.
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GNOME has run on BSD for quite some time; that's not the point. The point is that now it's part of the GNOME project's list of reference platforms. I avoid the use of the word "support" since there's no support in the traditional sense of the word from the GNOME project itself, but BSD is a compatible platform and officially considered in the release plans.
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I don't know of any mirrors, but here are instructions for building and links to the tarballs.
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Give it some time. :) A piece of software rarely changes the world at version 1.0. Did Windows 1.0 change the world or Linux 1.0? How about Word 1.0 or Emacs 1.0?
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The download pages for Redhat 6.x and Redhat 7 currently link to PR3 RPMs. I'm sure this will change soon. But until then, use the Redhat 6.x Installer or the Redhat 7 Installer. Or you can grab hourly builds.
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I was indeed aware of KDE's language bindings. It's very good to see Gnome and KDE embrace language flexibility and choice. I haven't played around with KDevelop much--didn't know it could be used for Gnome development. I'll have to give it a shot. I'm a fan of using a combination of tools to get the job done. I use gdb and vim for the most part while in UNIX and at work I'm a Visual C++ developer.
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Actually, the Gnome codebase is quite well maintained. It's not perfect, but we're working on it. Perhaps you could list specific hard-core facts, rather than making assertions with no basis. If you do have a basis for saying that Gnome will collapse under its own weight in a few months, I'd love to hear it. As someone who has spent significant time looking at the Gnome framework, and being both a C and C++ developer, I can attest to the flexibility of the core C-based architecture with powerful bindings for languages of all sorts--C++, java, python, perl, etc. The Gnome framework, IMHO, is extremely powerful, flexible, and getting even better all the time. Now of course, if you're not used to something you may find it confusing at first. :) First time I started using C++, I thought what a hideous hack! With time I've come to appreciate the advantages of both C and C++. It's great to be able to use both.
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The beta and release candidates are news. /. has a wide viewing audience and a large percentage of ./ users are Gnome or KDE users. All of the KDE betas made it to /. and why not? The more people try it out and report bugs and do testing, the better.
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If you mean what's new since Beta1, not much. During the Beta cycle we're just fixing bugs, doing QA, and the like. As far as what's new since Gnome 1.2, here you go:
Some of the new features in Gnome 1.4 include:
User level
* Nautilus
* enhanced display manager
* better KDE interoperability
* better support for legacy X applications
* application launch feedback
* improved Panel
* integrated Sawfish window manager
* Improved help browser and help system
* Usability and quality improvements throughout
* Fifth Toe release including a broad collection of apps that run on
GNOME.
Developer level
* gnome-vfs - Virtual file system allowing transparent access to local
and remote files.
* Bonobo component model - technology preview
* xml-i18n-tools - better internationalization and localization tools
* GConf - Advanced configuration/settings system with notification and
pluggable back ends
* Medusa search/indexing system
* Laguage bindings - C++, python, guile, rep
The Fifth Toe is a set of applications that are not part of Gnome proper but work with Gnome. They include office applications, games, a few panel applets, utilities, and chat programs.
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I don't know which version of Nautilus you tested most recently, but from my experience with running the hourly builds, I have to say Nautilus has become a lot faster. The Nautilus hackers are certainly addressing performance issues. A lot of the major performance tuning will probably have to come post-1.0, but expect Nautilus 1.0 to certainly be usable in terms of performance. Some of the major bottlenecks right now involve gnome-vfs and bonobo, two rapidly developing, yet new technologies. As these frameworks mature, look to see applications such as Nautilus that use them also improve. You can think of Gnome 1.4 as sort of a stepping stone to Gnome 2.0. Gnome 1.4 introduces some new technologies such as Bonobo, gnome-vfs, and the Nautilus architecture. During the development of Gnome 2.0 applications will be ported to the new GTK+ 2.0 toolkit, Bonobo, gnome-vfs, Nautilus, et. al. will be improved upon, and more applications will make use of these new technologies. This means more testing, more patches from more people and a better environment from which to work. If Nautilus is just too slow for you, you can still use gmc--we've included it in the Gnome Fifth Toe as a deprecated, but still available application. Keep trying out the builds of Nautilus, though--It's improving very quickly!
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Computer Engineering deals more with low-level stuff..not just hardware, but the theory behind Electrical Engineering. I would suggest taking at least two Electrical Engineering classes while taking some Computer Science classes. See where your interest and talent lies. For me After to EE classes, I asked myself, "What the hell are you thinking? You don't care about how a transistor really works at this low a level!" And I immediately switched to straight Computer Science. On the other hand, a lot of people really love that stuff. Try and see.
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AbiWord is a Gnome program. In fact it is shipping with Gnome 1.4 Fifth Toe, a collection of applications outside of Gnome proper that work well with Gnome. AbiWord now ships in two versions, straight gtk+ and Gnome.
There are many successful Gnome applications out there. First of all I'd like to address your point you make about Nautilus being an "outside project." If you spent any time in #gnome or #nautilus on gimpnet you might know what I mean. Nautilus is in Gnome CVS and receives thousands of manhours outside of Eazel in terms of development, testing, and ideas. Eazel and Ximan, two companies who do Gnome development are made up of some of the best Gnome hackers around who are very much a part of the community. There are also many successful Gnome applications which receive no corporate sponsorship, though I don't see why that should be a sticking point (all the code is GPL'd and community involvement is encouraged). GStreamer, The Gimp (Gnome-ification such as using Bonobo as a component framework is planned), GnomeICU (the best ICQ client I've see yet), Gabber (the best jabber client for Linux/Unix I've seen yet, gPhoto, Gnumeric (An amazing piece of software with very elegant code), GnuCash, X-Chat, etc. Not to mention Evolution, Ximian Setup Tools, and Red Carpet, offered by Ximian. With an estimated over half-million downloads of the Ximian distribution of the Gnome 1.2 desktop, Sun and HP announcing they will Ship Gnome 2.0 (replacing the long time Unix Desktop CDE) in their Unix offerings, Dell to ship Gnome on their Linux desktops and laptops, tools falling into place rapidly to provide a full-featured Office suite (Open Office + Gnumeric, AbiWord, Sodipodi, Guppi, touxdoux and the other Gnome Office apps), system administration (XST), PIM and Groupware (Evolution) all built around an outstading architecture including a component model built around a long-time standard in the unix world (CORBA) and modeled heavily after a proven component architecture, Microsoft's COM, I'd say that's a success. Sorry, a long winded answer to a simple question. The short answer is Yes.
There's no reason GNOME can't catch up, but at this point KDE is obviously ahead of GNOME, but that's a given since KDE started first anyway. I disagree. KDE has strengths over Gnome and vice versa. I personally use Gnome because it has the features/look&feel/applications that I want and no other desktop provides. And I'm a developer and am extremely excited about the Gnome framework, especially stuff coming down the pipes. Keep your eyes and ears open, folks. The next couple of years are going to be crazy!
Congratulations to the KDE team for their hard work on the release. Kudos! I look forward to further cooperation between Gnome and KDE. I think a unified component architecture (like is planned for XP-COM, UNO, and Bonobo) would be particularly exciting.
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Absolutely. Many of the positions I looked into did require specific degrees. I wouldn't advise anyone to drop out of school. But it is interesting to notice how the market is changing somewhat; IT positions are in such high demand. I think that one of the major influences the Open Source Revolution will have on the market is produce a supply of developers (without or without formal education or training at a corporation) that are more than capable of fulfilling the demand of the market.
Perhaps getting a degree via night school would be the best option for you. If your current role evaporates (can in some lines of work) then you may like having that piece of paper to fall back on. But then again some people are so well motivated and so skilled at presenting themselves professionally that it doesn't matter.
I would like to do that. The company I work for now offers tuition reimbursement, which is really nice. I've already started checking out evening classes at some local colleges and universities. It does feel sometimes like my 2 years were somewhat in vain...I'd like very much to complete what I started.
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An Educational Co-op is a program in which students work in a coporate environment for a period of time, often a semeseter, usually taking off from school. The idea is that the student receives valuable experience and more ammo with which to base his or her career choices. The employer receives cheap labour and the opportunity to tempt the student worker into coming on board full-time upon graduation, already trained (at a cheap rate) and spun-up. I took a full-year off of school (after my sophomore year at Washington University in St. Louis, MO) to participate in two co-ops, one at the Washington University Electronic Radiology Lab, and the other at Unigraphics Solutions, Inc. After working full-time for a year at $14/hour (sure beats washing dishes at your local bar and grill), it was very difficult to motivate myself to go back to school. In fact I dropped out two weeks into my junior year to pursue a career without a degree. What I found is that a large number of companies viewed my year of experience and my involvement in the open source community as more valuable than the piece of paper saying I had a bachelors. I somehow expected the degree to be the all-crucial key to getting a job in the tech industry.
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imlib-1.9.8.1-2_helix_2
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imlib should be compiled before gtk+, IIRC.
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I believe control-center must be built after gnome-libs.
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A partial list of new features can be found in this post. Gnome 1.4 took longer to release than originally anticipated. The reason for this is simple: it wasn't ready until now.
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Mozilla 0.8 was released while the beta process was still going on. Switching would have delayed the release. Beta 1 isn't perfect. :) But we're working on it. Look for M 0.8 to be used in future releases.
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Some of the new features in Gnome 1.4 include:
User level
* Nautilus
* enhanced display manager
* better KDE interoperability
* better support for legacy X applications
* application launch feedback
* improved Panel
* integrated Sawfish window manager
* Improved help browser and help system
* Usability and quality improvements throughout
* Fifth Toe release including a broad collection of apps that run on
GNOME.
Developer level
* gnome-vfs - Virtual file system allowing transparent access to local
and remote files.
* Bonobo component model - technology preview
* xml-i18n-tools - better internationalization and localization tools
* GConf - Advanced configuration/settings system with notification and
pluggable back ends
* Medusa search/indexing system
* Laguage bindings - C++, python, guile, rep
The Fifth Toe is a set of applications that are not part of Gnome proper but work with Gnome. They include office applications, games, a few panel applets, utilities, and chat programs. Here's a list of the current set of Fifth Toe packages:
gmc 4.5.51
Gnumeric 0.61
Dia 0.86
Guppi 0.35.2
AbiWord 0.7.12
GnuCash 1.4.10
Sodipodi 0.21
gnome-db 0.2.3
toutdoux 1.2.4
Anjuta IDE 0.1.2
MemProf 0.4.1
gob 1.0.6
gal 0.5
gtkhtml 0.8.2
The GIMP 1.2.1
eog 0.6
GnomeICU 0.95.5
gabber 0.8.2pre1
galeon 0.9.0
gtm 0.4.5
Pan 0.9.3
Balsa 1.0.0
Firestarter 0.6.0
gnomoku 1.0
bombermaze 0.6.4
XPenguins
Applet 0.9beta1
Atomix 0.4.1
gedit 0.9.4
Glimmer 1.0.1
gfax 0.4.2
Figaro's
Password
Manager 0.53
radioactive 1.1
Merlin's
CPU Fire
Applet 0.1.0
googlizer 0.1
gnorpm 0.96
gnome lokkit 0.43
The Fifth Toe packages can be found (in tarball form) on ftp.gnome.org (and soon they'll propagate to the mirors) in the pub/gnome/stable/betas/gnome-fifth-toe-1.4beta1 directory.
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The Fifth Toe is a release of packages that are not part of Gnome proper but work with Gnome. They include things like office applications, utilities, applets, games, and chat programs. They can be found in pub/gnome/stable/betas/gnome-fifth-toe-1.4beta1 on ftp.gnome.org and should soon propagate to the mirrors.
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The source to Star Office has been opened. The Open Office hackers are working on merging the component architectures. They already have an early working version of a component you can embed in Nautilus.
2. When will solaris be shipped with GNOME as the default desktop?
At Gnome version 2.0. In the meantime you can certainly download Solaris packages of Gnome. Try the Ximian distribution of the Gnome desktop.
. When will SUN ship it's systems with a protocol a bit less bloated than X? (Ica?)
Huh? What major UNIX vendor ships with something other than X? What realistic alternatives are there now? Framebuffer? Berlin? I think not, at this time.
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Hey, I'm not gung-ho about .NOT either. I was just pointing out that you can download the BETA version of the framework. I'm sort of skeptical about .NET, though I think it has the potential to be a powerful cross-platform framework. I guess it's Microsoft's trackrecord that leads me to believe they will only push their products and platforms down everyone's throat. We'll see.
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