Yes, $DEITY made the waste pipes go through the recreational area on purpose
oh noes you pee pee from your "recreational area"...There is no $DEITY!... probably has nothing to do with building up immunities like kissing has been proven to do.
It also "designed" such useful and not-the-least-troublesome parts such as the appendix, the thymus, etc on purpose
the apendix does nothing then gets infected...There is no $DEITY!...our stupid brains will never be able to compensate for our useless appendix by having it removed
The way the 'air pipe' meets the 'food and water pipe' is not faulty and no one goes to the hospital or dies because of it.
Yeah, perfectly designed indeed...
and yea...swallowing food and water as well as breathing is a bit tricky...you got me there, i guess there really is no $DEITY. evolution has stopped dead in its tracks and we lead a pointless existence...
The fact that I can't personally do something doesn't mean it must've been a deity. If you examine it a bit further, ask yourself: Who designed God? If your answer is nothing, why not skip a step and say nothing designed the universe?
Oh, and current estimates are that a supercomputer will surpass the computational power of the human brain in only a few years.
Finally, please explain how elegant the human appendix is, what divine purpose it was put here to fulfill? It's a lot harder to explain that one with religion -- yet it makes perfect sense from the standpoint of evolutionary biology.
1. I have no idea and neither do you, but everything we discover or make works becuase of rules here long before us.
2.how long till we augment our brains with that power,what will we do with it, and will that be an accident?
3.fuck the appendix I don't quote scripture or refute evolution so why the fuck are you asking me this?
sigh...you still want to believe that I don't believe in evolution. And that what you believe in today won't be laughed at by future generations the way you laugh at the church for not believing that Galileo was right. The universe didn't revolve around the earth...it revolved around the SUN. So even though Galileo KNEW he was right and people accepted what he said as truth for generations, we realized again later that the universe revolves around neither the earth nor the sun and in the end he and the church both had it wrong. This doesn't mean we had nothing to learn from him it just means, that though he really really really thought he had evidence that proved the universe revolved around the sun he did not have the tools to know EVERYTHING, and you certainly do not either.
I wasn't comparing my self to Galileo, I was comparing you to the people around him that KNEW the universe revolved around the earth. I am not a creationist or an anti-scientists, it is the breakthroughs in science that that amaze and convince me things aren't just happenstance. I don't say I know why they happen or what we are to do with it, only that there are rules we have been privy to observe and manipulate. Because we can say how we say how does not give us the authority to say why. I wouldn't read Slashdot if I had a problem with scientist, and I'll bet if you asked a bunch they would tell you they don't know everything either but that they do what they do because they believe mankind is an important asset to the universe. I, they, or you do not understand our main function yet but if there is one they will strive to help find it.
you think "invisible sky daddies, flying spaghetti monsters, invisible pink unicorns" are the same thing as looking at all the patterns repeated throughout nature and the universe and wondering why, or what we are supposed to do with it?
you could also link to the results of people who do simple day to day things at soup kitchens and homeless shelters in the name of their god...are they crazy? And is it not a reality that they save lives and it's not just suicide bombers who believe in god.
He was imprisoned until his death by Theists for heresy.
and you think there is a difference between between saying "this is how it is" in the name of god, and saying "this is how it is" in the name of no god? All I say is that while we know a lot...we don't know shit.
Car analogy...what goes into the factory is not the same as what comes out. Cars have roots in things much simpler like carriages and carts and their most fundamental primitive part is the wheel. Cars come in all different shapes and sizes and have evolved since the first car was built. There are things which can be categorized with cars like trucks, trains, motorcycles, that all have different purposes. I don't believe that when the first car was designed they saw all that it would become but they did not make it for no reason.
the wheel is analog to a single cell, human to a car whatever you want for trains, trucks, motorcycles...evolution in particular makes me say how and why. I'm not a creationist or intelligent design believer in that i don't look this stuff up on the internet read books about it or goto meetings anywhere. Just kinda what I've always thought when I've learned how stream lined and rational things are, either sitting in school or reading/. just wanna know WHY everything makes so much sense.
sorry, forgot we are an accident. I'll just accept that dna is what it is because it just is, and that the laws of physics hold true throughout the universe just cuz.
Enjoy your superstition. It has no effect on reality.
I'll bet at some point in your amazing life you have admired Galileo. Do you think he heard things like this when he tried to explain the universe might not revolve around the earth?
Car analogy...what goes into the factory is not the same as what comes out. Cars have roots in things much simpler like carriages and carts and their most fundamental primitive part is the wheel. Cars come in all different shapes and sizes and have evolved since the first car was built. There are things which can be catogorized with cars like trucks, trains, motorcycles, that all have differnt purposes. I don't believe that when the first car was designed they saw all that it would become but they did not make it for no reason.
Santa Claus never brought anyone wars, pestilence or childhood leukemia. Nor did he ever send anyone to suffer torment in Hell for eternity for disobeying their parents or coveting their neighbor's wife.
um if your naughty he gives you coal instead of what you wanted. also people get trampled during christmas sales, so while it is not all out war, there are a lot of battle's being waged and all the bounty is signed with Santa's name.
I don't think it is elegant at all. What is elegant are all the amazing bio-machines that have been built here on earth. When you can make something as efficient and reliable as a human heart, or a computer as complex as the human brain you can be as arrogant as you want. Until then I'm gonna have to believe we were designed like we were on purpose.
That said, I don't know why this is on/.. This has nothing to do with technology, geeks, etc... And everyone interested in this can read about this from every other news source in the world. I live in Finland and our massmedia caught this before Slashdot. In addition to that, this isn't even final yet (still needs to be signed by a lot of folks, if I understood correctly, so this still might not pass) so we will certainly be able to read about this numerous times more, even in/..
You could probably say it is on slashdot because a lot of technology is used in modern medicine, and modern medicine is a science. One thing the people not for this bill have been saying is that that our free market system encourages the best and the brightest to innovate because of the monetary gain, and if it is government controlled those people will look for jobs elsewhere. I'm sure there are plenty of people in medical tech, and medicine that read slashdot that are concerned how this will affect their jobs.
that's good to hear. I would eventually like to quit smoking but every time I have a cup of coffee I feel like I NEED a cigarette to go with it. I think I will have to quit both at the same time. OR medicine can fix cancer and I wont have to worry about the ill effects of cigarette smoking.
EXACTLY just get the game sign up and QQ on the forums. Its blizzard, they will cave. Though these days with activision there they might charge 5 dollars for the added functionality.
I don't know anyone of the 20 or 30 people that play or have played WoW for thousands of hours that haven't tried out other MMORPGs - Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EVE, a slew of free or freemium ones, etc
funny you don't mention any mmo's that came out before wow, or a regular rpg for that matter. I am guessing the folks you know wow is their first mmo or even RPG experience and trying the games you mention is more like looking for a new wow fix instead of a love for the genre. Otherwise you would have said my friends all played eq2 and Ultima, love the forgotten realms stuff and are looking foward to the new diablo(maybe). Anyways you just reinforced the point of the article I think..."They're WoW players and that's it". If a game that comes after wow isn't wow it better be damn close otherwise it is not worth the time amirite?
I will even go as far as to say that it is the duty of each person to try and live - not necessarily for themselves, but at the very least for their loved ones.
That seems EXTREMLEY SELFISH. You would prefer to keep your dear old grandma alive and in pain for YOUR sake damn her pain? Selfish queer....
whats the point when its a machine keeping you alive? Suicide is a whole different evening all together. I'm talking about people who cant breath and shit for themselves saying thanks for the fun i had a great time on earth I'll see you in a minute god.
Yes, $DEITY made the waste pipes go through the recreational area on purpose
oh noes you pee pee from your "recreational area"...There is no $DEITY!... probably has nothing to do with building up immunities like kissing has been proven to do.
It also "designed" such useful and not-the-least-troublesome parts such as the appendix, the thymus, etc on purpose
the apendix does nothing then gets infected...There is no $DEITY!...our stupid brains will never be able to compensate for our useless appendix by having it removed
The way the 'air pipe' meets the 'food and water pipe' is not faulty and no one goes to the hospital or dies because of it. Yeah, perfectly designed indeed...
and yea...swallowing food and water as well as breathing is a bit tricky...you got me there, i guess there really is no $DEITY. evolution has stopped dead in its tracks and we lead a pointless existence...
The fact that I can't personally do something doesn't mean it must've been a deity. If you examine it a bit further, ask yourself: Who designed God? If your answer is nothing, why not skip a step and say nothing designed the universe? Oh, and current estimates are that a supercomputer will surpass the computational power of the human brain in only a few years. Finally, please explain how elegant the human appendix is, what divine purpose it was put here to fulfill? It's a lot harder to explain that one with religion -- yet it makes perfect sense from the standpoint of evolutionary biology.
1. I have no idea and neither do you, but everything we discover or make works becuase of rules here long before us.
2.how long till we augment our brains with that power,what will we do with it, and will that be an accident?
3.fuck the appendix I don't quote scripture or refute evolution so why the fuck are you asking me this?
sigh...you still want to believe that I don't believe in evolution. And that what you believe in today won't be laughed at by future generations the way you laugh at the church for not believing that Galileo was right. The universe didn't revolve around the earth...it revolved around the SUN. So even though Galileo KNEW he was right and people accepted what he said as truth for generations, we realized again later that the universe revolves around neither the earth nor the sun and in the end he and the church both had it wrong. This doesn't mean we had nothing to learn from him it just means, that though he really really really thought he had evidence that proved the universe revolved around the sun he did not have the tools to know EVERYTHING, and you certainly do not either.
I wasn't comparing my self to Galileo, I was comparing you to the people around him that KNEW the universe revolved around the earth. I am not a creationist or an anti-scientists, it is the breakthroughs in science that that amaze and convince me things aren't just happenstance. I don't say I know why they happen or what we are to do with it, only that there are rules we have been privy to observe and manipulate. Because we can say how we say how does not give us the authority to say why. I wouldn't read Slashdot if I had a problem with scientist, and I'll bet if you asked a bunch they would tell you they don't know everything either but that they do what they do because they believe mankind is an important asset to the universe. I, they, or you do not understand our main function yet but if there is one they will strive to help find it.
you think "invisible sky daddies, flying spaghetti monsters, invisible pink unicorns" are the same thing as looking at all the patterns repeated throughout nature and the universe and wondering why, or what we are supposed to do with it?
you could also link to the results of people who do simple day to day things at soup kitchens and homeless shelters in the name of their god...are they crazy? And is it not a reality that they save lives and it's not just suicide bombers who believe in god.
He was imprisoned until his death by Theists for heresy.
and you think there is a difference between between saying "this is how it is" in the name of god, and saying "this is how it is" in the name of no god? All I say is that while we know a lot...we don't know shit.
Car analogy...what goes into the factory is not the same as what comes out. Cars have roots in things much simpler like carriages and carts and their most fundamental primitive part is the wheel. Cars come in all different shapes and sizes and have evolved since the first car was built. There are things which can be categorized with cars like trucks, trains, motorcycles, that all have different purposes. I don't believe that when the first car was designed they saw all that it would become but they did not make it for no reason.
the wheel is analog to a single cell, human to a car whatever you want for trains, trucks, motorcycles...evolution in particular makes me say how and why. I'm not a creationist or intelligent design believer in that i don't look this stuff up on the internet read books about it or goto meetings anywhere. Just kinda what I've always thought when I've learned how stream lined and rational things are, either sitting in school or reading /. just wanna know WHY everything makes so much sense.
all I'm saying is that to be able to observe any of it seems like a gift.
sorry, forgot we are an accident. I'll just accept that dna is what it is because it just is, and that the laws of physics hold true throughout the universe just cuz.
Enjoy your superstition. It has no effect on reality.
I'll bet at some point in your amazing life you have admired Galileo. Do you think he heard things like this when he tried to explain the universe might not revolve around the earth?
huh I don't remember saying I believe in god because he and I like to chat. You don't ever wonder why there is so much order in science?
Car analogy...what goes into the factory is not the same as what comes out. Cars have roots in things much simpler like carriages and carts and their most fundamental primitive part is the wheel. Cars come in all different shapes and sizes and have evolved since the first car was built. There are things which can be catogorized with cars like trucks, trains, motorcycles, that all have differnt purposes. I don't believe that when the first car was designed they saw all that it would become but they did not make it for no reason.
Santa Claus never brought anyone wars, pestilence or childhood leukemia. Nor did he ever send anyone to suffer torment in Hell for eternity for disobeying their parents or coveting their neighbor's wife.
um if your naughty he gives you coal instead of what you wanted. also people get trampled during christmas sales, so while it is not all out war, there are a lot of battle's being waged and all the bounty is signed with Santa's name.
I don't think it is elegant at all. What is elegant are all the amazing bio-machines that have been built here on earth. When you can make something as efficient and reliable as a human heart, or a computer as complex as the human brain you can be as arrogant as you want. Until then I'm gonna have to believe we were designed like we were on purpose.
That said, I don't know why this is on /.. This has nothing to do with technology, geeks, etc... And everyone interested in this can read about this from every other news source in the world. I live in Finland and our massmedia caught this before Slashdot. In addition to that, this isn't even final yet (still needs to be signed by a lot of folks, if I understood correctly, so this still might not pass) so we will certainly be able to read about this numerous times more, even in /..
You could probably say it is on slashdot because a lot of technology is used in modern medicine, and modern medicine is a science. One thing the people not for this bill have been saying is that that our free market system encourages the best and the brightest to innovate because of the monetary gain, and if it is government controlled those people will look for jobs elsewhere. I'm sure there are plenty of people in medical tech, and medicine that read slashdot that are concerned how this will affect their jobs.
also that's probably what some kids will say to other kids in this class and some will not enjoy school still.
that's good to hear. I would eventually like to quit smoking but every time I have a cup of coffee I feel like I NEED a cigarette to go with it. I think I will have to quit both at the same time. OR medicine can fix cancer and I wont have to worry about the ill effects of cigarette smoking.
i see baseball players and other heavy steroid users being interested in this.
EXACTLY just get the game sign up and QQ on the forums. Its blizzard, they will cave. Though these days with activision there they might charge 5 dollars for the added functionality.
I don't know anyone of the 20 or 30 people that play or have played WoW for thousands of hours that haven't tried out other MMORPGs - Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EVE, a slew of free or freemium ones, etc
funny you don't mention any mmo's that came out before wow, or a regular rpg for that matter. I am guessing the folks you know wow is their first mmo or even RPG experience and trying the games you mention is more like looking for a new wow fix instead of a love for the genre. Otherwise you would have said my friends all played eq2 and Ultima, love the forgotten realms stuff and are looking foward to the new diablo(maybe). Anyways you just reinforced the point of the article I think..."They're WoW players and that's it". If a game that comes after wow isn't wow it better be damn close otherwise it is not worth the time amirite?
see World of Warcraft...
bullshit you like how bright your screen is in the dark.
I will even go as far as to say that it is the duty of each person to try and live - not necessarily for themselves, but at the very least for their loved ones.
That seems EXTREMLEY SELFISH. You would prefer to keep your dear old grandma alive and in pain for YOUR sake damn her pain? Selfish queer....
whats the point when its a machine keeping you alive? Suicide is a whole different evening all together. I'm talking about people who cant breath and shit for themselves saying thanks for the fun i had a great time on earth I'll see you in a minute god.