The summary is wrong. TFA:"This means that the Pirate Bay co-founder is sentenced to a year in jail and his share of 30 million kronor ($4.48m) in damages."
Vaguely referenced in the original heise.de article the company responsible for programming the trojan is "digitask". They charged neighboring Bavarian state Baden-Württemberg 1,2 million Euros for some components of the software in 2007. From the Spiegel article below also looks like digitask was being commissioned to implement a complete digital "Big Brother" system from certain states. So looks like more German states than just Bavaria are implicated in this.
It appears to be a windows dll. For installing it they are presuming someone would need physical access, user installation per email attachment , or drive by download attacks.
How does Thunderbird 5 handle full Exchange connectivity (including Calendaring, Contacts, Tasks, etc)? That is my main reason for sticking with Evolution.
in the heart of the assertion that iOS is the most secure operating system in existence today.
In compared to what ?.. Windows ? Just about anything is "more secure than Windows". On top of that "in the heart of assertion my gentoo box is more secure than either one of those" -Just sayin.
Anyways only good news of this is, is enough companies start backing html5 hopefully make that bug ridden flash go away which in turn, would be a benefit for everyone.
Copying and pasting the first paragraphn is 1) misleading 2) an extremely poor way to do a SUMMARY. This is what is missing "GVU states that Kino.to was working closely with the sites that hosted the copyrighted films, and that they profited from commercial partnerships with these companies."
So it was not a SIMPLE linking as the first paragraph make seem to believe.
Basically what was stated is that not only was kino.to taken down but also the filehosting and portal sites behind it. The people running these sites (kino.to and others) are not explicitly being charged for linking copyrighted material(ASFAIK this is still somewhat of a grayzone in Germany) But rather for building an organized criminal organization. If prosecuted in a German criminal court this could lead to a 5 year jail sentence.
It'll probably be a command line tool or library that nobody will use in its pure form; instead, they'll use a GUI frontend with a completely different name. I expect it'll eventually be built into Pidgin and other chat programs.
Of course, I didn't read the article so it's all a mystery! I love surprises.
And finally one IM/SIP/irc/etc Client for all your needs .
And other "services" do not ? Look at skype for example you have to connect to other nodes to open a call it is not a direct connection. Who is to say that some rogue node is in between ? SIP can be 2 way and not multi node.
With GNU Free Call everything is open sourced. It would be a whole hell of a lot easier to find out and eventually block bad nodes, MitM, etc. Also not to mention some people who like to use OSS and operating systems will finally have a decent service/client to use on multiple platforms with other people if this takes off. Unlike the oh so "free" _less than better_ stuff we have now.
'The fear among the producers now is that it's impossible to imagine an audience of around 400 people at the recording of a TV show like Red Dwarf, where nobody does a bit of a hint on Twitter, or sneaks a picture on Facebook or posts a bit of badly shot video on YouTube.'
Wow just wow . How about adapting and embracing new technology instead of moving a step backwards ? This confirms still, how old fashioned some in the entertainment industry think. E.g. why not offer a 'live' showing per stream in HD ? If it is a good show and not some _crap_ then why are they so afraid of twitter, youtube, etc etc. Actually if enough people talk positive about it isn't that a bonus for the show? There are many possibilities how to adapt to new models but instead of thinking about the positives of using new models, these types concentrate on the new negatives.
So now live viewers will most likely have tight security before entering the viewing. Leave all electronic devices with security pick up after show etc (same old story). Because some decision makers can't think outside the box.
wow! intel is really keeping up with whats What hot and new , intel open source Now sounds like intel really wants to please OSS users like on Arrandale when they pull these kinds of stunts, TFA:
Intel decided not to send out any Sandy Bridge CPU samples to us, so we are unable to deliver test results, but all I got were frustrated journalists asking me how to get the Sandy Bridge graphics working under Linux.
Arrandale is also a complete mess on some platforms like fedora for e.g.Currently now running gentoo with xorg 1.9. and kernel 2.6.37.7 and feeling lucky that most things are now working on an Arrandale platform.
Does this also include the fantasy series by George R.R. Martin ? Hell what about Shakespeare and other Literature works ? If amazon wants to ban books this way shouldn't they also take this books out of their traditional webshop sortiment as well ? I don't understand why they would do this on the electronic side then sell the traditional book on other , makes no sense.
As someone who travels from location to location in between different countries, I am sick of this whole "geo" nonsense, and location based services. For example, remember the good old days when you could go to _somewhere.com_ and get that specific service or site in the language you prefer? Nowadays you get whatever X based on your location or better yet on some computer systems based it is based on the locality of the box. More times than most it is hard to get the information you want and can _understand_ especially when you cannot even understand where _what it is you were looking for_ is. Also TFA:
"The idea is to push information to people."
Also why do all these business and services feel the need to "push" their information or services upon people ? The more they do this the more people start feeling drowned . From reading the article this geo google VP sounds a little out of touch. Would rather "push" everything on everyone the way google sees best.
When I or colleagues at work need to install a Fedora box it has most everything on it for security auditing , penetration , etc etc. That is what we do . Imho this thinking is getting more like the windows side of things. Fedora keeps doing this, if you really need something download from site X install etc etc . Or I will have to personally notify myself of updates in the future instead of yum telling me to do so . Or add repo X install some gpg key since you were talking about trust earlier. (allbeit this will probably just get added in an additional repo) I just fail to see the logic in their reasoning thats all.
imho its all about the money. Look at things now compared to say 5 or even 10 years ago. Most small companies are bought up by a larger competitor, just to make sure they get there hands on whatever tech it is they are developing. Or another company is sued by another for some copyright or patent infringement just to make a buck. No real new 'big' fish are coming to light with something new cool and innovative, if so very slowly, as the big boys try to make sure they stay on top and squash that competition.
damn buffer I copied it wrong and hit enter to fast. I meant to say they call it exploration now , although look at the links directly in the navbar , exploits etc what not
Good job. You have demonstrated your capability to read, cut and paste a sentence from the minutes onto slashdot. Do you also have the capability to explain why you think that sentence is particularly important? Please do.
Was just stating from the minutes one of the argumentations that were posted for adding the package, which I see and view as significant. You implied earlier that I should have read the minutes, which I did. I have to use a Fedora box at work so yes I read them all the time, so I can keep up with the binary distro world.
Since you asked, I feel that is an important argument to the package itself and the boards reasoning as a whole, look at some of the other packages that are provided and what they can be used for. I feel the 'Boards' arguments are rather week and alienating (in the end honestly I do not care. If I need to test some clients database's I will do so regardless of what Fedoras Board thinks which packages should be on my system or not.
Other comments here have stated that certain countries have issues with "tools" provided on computers. Well that maybe, and this sounds like Fedora's Board wanting to cover its ass without thinking about other packages they already provide the distro with from the install DVD that can have similar uses (although technically speaking different but the principals are the same).
he reason the Fedora board gave was (and if you had read the link you would know this) is that the nmap is used probably the majority of the time to check if your own ports are open. Of course even a compiler can be used as a penetration tool, so the ability to use something as a penetration tool is not enough to keep it from the distro, which I think you're getting at.
Really, from reading the minutes, I think they basically decided it wasn't useful enough for their user base. You might disagree, but I trust the Fedora board to know what their user base wants more than I trust you.
From reading the minutes:
"Argument for SQLninja to be added to Fedora is that it is a 'penetration testing tool.' "
The difference between tcpdump, nmap, and sqlninja is that tcpdump and nmap have a lot of uses (is my port open?).
Yes of course, but there are also plugins for e.g. nmap that will give you 'recommendations' for _said_ open ports on target which in the end is also a 'penetration tool' which was one of the reasons for not adding this particular package. So how is that so much different ?
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The summary is wrong. TFA:"This means that the Pirate Bay co-founder is sentenced to a year in jail and his share of 30 million kronor ($4.48m) in damages."
Vaguely referenced in the original heise.de article the company responsible for programming the trojan is "digitask". They charged neighboring Bavarian state Baden-Württemberg 1,2 million Euros for some components of the software in 2007. From the Spiegel article below also looks like digitask was being commissioned to implement a complete digital "Big Brother" system from certain states. So looks like more German states than just Bavaria are implicated in this.
source german: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,791112,00.html
Also another English article from spiegel :http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,790944,00.html
http://www.ccc.de/system/uploads/76/original/staatstrojaner-report23.pdf (german)
It appears to be a windows dll. For installing it they are presuming someone would need physical access, user installation per email attachment , or drive by download attacks.
How does Thunderbird 5 handle full Exchange connectivity (including Calendaring, Contacts, Tasks, etc)? That is my main reason for sticking with Evolution.
http://davmail.sourceforge.net/
Works rather well except for some calendar glitches .
in the heart of the assertion that iOS is the most secure operating system in existence today.
In compared to what ? .. Windows ? Just about anything is "more secure than Windows". On top of that "in the heart of assertion my gentoo box is more secure than either one of those" -Just sayin.
Anyways only good news of this is, is enough companies start backing html5 hopefully make that bug ridden flash go away which in turn, would be a benefit for everyone.
Copying and pasting the first paragraphn is 1) misleading 2) an extremely poor way to do a SUMMARY. This is what is missing "GVU states that Kino.to was working closely with the sites that hosted the copyrighted films, and that they profited from commercial partnerships with these companies."
So it was not a SIMPLE linking as the first paragraph make seem to believe.
Good point. Also stated in these articles here: (sorry could not find anything in english) http://heise.de/-1257486/ and http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,767375,00.html/
Basically what was stated is that not only was kino.to taken down but also the filehosting and portal sites behind it. The people running these sites (kino.to and others) are not explicitly being charged for linking copyrighted material(ASFAIK this is still somewhat of a grayzone in Germany) But rather for building an organized criminal organization. If prosecuted in a German criminal court this could lead to a 5 year jail sentence.
Miguel are you still drinking it ?
Hell Ill test Guinness for free :D
It'll probably be a command line tool or library that nobody will use in its pure form; instead, they'll use a GUI frontend with a completely different name. I expect it'll eventually be built into Pidgin and other chat programs.
Of course, I didn't read the article so it's all a mystery! I love surprises.
And finally one IM/SIP/irc/etc Client for all your needs .
It will allow the government to track you.
_newsflash_
And other "services" do not ? Look at skype for example you have to connect to other nodes to open a call it is not a direct connection. Who is to say that some rogue node is in between ? SIP can be 2 way and not multi node.
With GNU Free Call everything is open sourced. It would be a whole hell of a lot easier to find out and eventually block bad nodes, MitM, etc. Also not to mention some people who like to use OSS and operating systems will finally have a decent service/client to use on multiple platforms with other people if this takes off. Unlike the oh so "free" _less than better_ stuff we have now.
'The fear among the producers now is that it's impossible to imagine an audience of around 400 people at the recording of a TV show like Red Dwarf, where nobody does a bit of a hint on Twitter, or sneaks a picture on Facebook or posts a bit of badly shot video on YouTube.'
Wow just wow . How about adapting and embracing new technology instead of moving a step backwards ? This confirms still, how old fashioned some in the entertainment industry think. E.g. why not offer a 'live' showing per stream in HD ? If it is a good show and not some _crap_ then why are they so afraid of twitter, youtube, etc etc. Actually if enough people talk positive about it isn't that a bonus for the show? There are many possibilities how to adapt to new models but instead of thinking about the positives of using new models, these types concentrate on the new negatives.
So now live viewers will most likely have tight security before entering the viewing. Leave all electronic devices with security pick up after show etc (same old story). Because some decision makers can't think outside the box.
wow! intel is really keeping up with whats What hot and new , intel open source Now sounds like intel really wants to please OSS users like on Arrandale when they pull these kinds of stunts, TFA:
Intel decided not to send out any Sandy Bridge CPU samples to us, so we are unable to deliver test results, but all I got were frustrated journalists asking me how to get the Sandy Bridge graphics working under Linux.
Arrandale is also a complete mess on some platforms like fedora for e.g.Currently now running gentoo with xorg 1.9. and kernel 2.6.37.7 and feeling lucky that most things are now working on an Arrandale platform.
Does this also include the fantasy series by George R.R. Martin ? Hell what about Shakespeare and other Literature works ? If amazon wants to ban books this way shouldn't they also take this books out of their traditional webshop sortiment as well ? I don't understand why they would do this on the electronic side then sell the traditional book on other , makes no sense.
As someone who travels from location to location in between different countries, I am sick of this whole "geo" nonsense, and location based services. For example, remember the good old days when you could go to _somewhere.com_ and get that specific service or site in the language you prefer? Nowadays you get whatever X based on your location or better yet on some computer systems based it is based on the locality of the box. More times than most it is hard to get the information you want and can _understand_ especially when you cannot even understand where _what it is you were looking for_ is.
Also TFA:
"The idea is to push information to people."
Also why do all these business and services feel the need to "push" their information or services upon people ? The more they do this the more people start feeling drowned . From reading the article this geo google VP sounds a little out of touch. Would rather "push" everything on everyone the way google sees best.
Imagine the shitstorm that will happen , if well something really does happen . Be it Assange or further attempts to take wikileaks completely down.
parent +informative
How about "Krap" ?
"windows could be moved fluidly"
Damn was I the only one thinking about migrating virtual machines from one box to another , until I read it twice ?
Damn, I need a vacation :)
When I or colleagues at work need to install a Fedora box it has most everything on it for security auditing , penetration , etc etc. That is what we do . Imho this thinking is getting more like the windows side of things. Fedora keeps doing this, if you really need something download from site X install etc etc . Or I will have to personally notify myself of updates in the future instead of yum telling me to do so . Or add repo X install some gpg key since you were talking about trust earlier. (allbeit this will probably just get added in an additional repo) I just fail to see the logic in their reasoning thats all.
imho its all about the money. Look at things now compared to say 5 or even 10 years ago. Most small companies are bought up by a larger competitor, just to make sure they get there hands on whatever tech it is they are developing. Or another company is sued by another for some copyright or patent infringement just to make a buck. No real new 'big' fish are coming to light with something new cool and innovative, if so very slowly, as the big boys try to make sure they stay on top and squash that competition.
damn buffer I copied it wrong and hit enter to fast. I meant to say they call it exploration now , although look at the links directly in the navbar , exploits etc what not
Try reading the sourceforge page instead. http://sqlninja.sourceforge.net/sqlninja-howto.html#s1. It's not a pen testing tool. It's an exploit tool.
http://nmap.org/ this says in the introduction:
"map ("Network Mapper") is a free and open source (license) utility for network exploration or security auditing."
Good job. You have demonstrated your capability to read, cut and paste a sentence from the minutes onto slashdot. Do you also have the capability to explain why you think that sentence is particularly important? Please do.
Was just stating from the minutes one of the argumentations that were posted for adding the package, which I see and view as significant. You implied earlier that I should have read the minutes, which I did. I have to use a Fedora box at work so yes I read them all the time, so I can keep up with the binary distro world.
Since you asked, I feel that is an important argument to the package itself and the boards reasoning as a whole, look at some of the other packages that are provided and what they can be used for. I feel the 'Boards' arguments are rather week and alienating (in the end honestly I do not care. If I need to test some clients database's I will do so regardless of what Fedoras Board thinks which packages should be on my system or not.
Other comments here have stated that certain countries have issues with "tools" provided on computers. Well that maybe, and this sounds like Fedora's Board wanting to cover its ass without thinking about other packages they already provide the distro with from the install DVD that can have similar uses (although technically speaking different but the principals are the same).
Just my 2 cents :)
he reason the Fedora board gave was (and if you had read the link you would know this) is that the nmap is used probably the majority of the time to check if your own ports are open. Of course even a compiler can be used as a penetration tool, so the ability to use something as a penetration tool is not enough to keep it from the distro, which I think you're getting at.
Really, from reading the minutes, I think they basically decided it wasn't useful enough for their user base. You might disagree, but I trust the Fedora board to know what their user base wants more than I trust you.
From reading the minutes:
"Argument for SQLninja to be added to Fedora is that it is a 'penetration testing tool.' "
The difference between tcpdump, nmap, and sqlninja is that tcpdump and nmap have a lot of uses (is my port open?).
Yes of course, but there are also plugins for e.g. nmap that will give you 'recommendations' for _said_ open ports on target which in the end is also a 'penetration tool' which was one of the reasons for not adding this particular package. So how is that so much different ?