Guess you never took any management ? - from an AC troll
As a matter of fact I did take management classes in College, plus Accounting and Marketing.
Sorry.. truth hurts. - same AC troll
I don't really think the Microsoft invented that term, but they do have a tendancy to use it whenever they describe their advantages. So to associate MS with that term is appropiate. In your overly simplistic and trollish way you are correct, TOC (Total Cost of Ownership) is a valid term. What I mostly object to is the incomplete usage and analysis that usually goes along with it. For example, they never include the cost to protect against viruses, or the cost of repair infections(which is also a "fact of life"). Another is the cost of having to change your software when a company decides that they no longer want to sell that product (which has happened to me). Granted not ever company goes out of business, so the cost of changing software would need to be multiplied by the historical chance of the company pulling software. There are many other "costs" which never seem to make it into calulations for the TCO. In fact, I have never seen a proper line-by-line balance sheet description of a TCO analysis, if you have I would love to see it. Even if you can find something that might pass to you as a complete example of TCO, you must understand that most people's TCO anaylsis includes a lot of hand-waving and "trust me it's cheaper", without any real data.
If you have ever had an advanced accounting class, which I doubt, you will know that there are many ways to look a particular set of numbers, to "spin" them to be appropiate for your point (if you will). That is why I perfer to call it SCO (Subjective Cost of Ownership), but since SCO is already a well known curse (at least in the Slashdot world), lets just call it really is "FUD".
TCO; isn't that a microsoft generated excuse designed for inclusion in power point presentations.
One of the nice things about open source is that if the project forks, you can "fork" it right back, you are not at the mercy of your software suppliers. If you need it enough you can pay for it's development. This is also true if the project is otherwise abandoned, with paid-for software you would need to be the highest bidder at the auction (or at the mercy of some gready and broke VC).
So your problem was a Java Applet running in (maybe an early) version of Mozilla. Unfortunately, the Applet continues to be the first experience most people have with Java, becuase of it's implementation in web browsers, it's stability is a direct function of how well the browser works with it. I would never consider using applets (unless the Business decides that is what they want) for a good number of reasons, including the tendancy to "blame Java" when the browser chokes, load times and inconsistant versions of java on a particular target system.
The idea of Wal Mart selling PCs with an OS to compete with Windows appeals to mei>
It is not an idea, they already do it, and when they describe one they tell you what is up. Most (read as all) computers are already "bundled" with all the software needed for browsing the web. Sure they can't play AOE, but does Granny need anything more than email and a browser. It's not like they hide it either.
From a computer description in the walmart website
The Linux-based operating system in these PCs is not compatible with any Microsoft Windows programs, however, it is great for basic operations such as email, Web browsing and instant messaging and can be easily upgraded for compatibility with Microsoft Office documents that have.doc, xls. or.ppt suffixes.
Just in case you were wondering the compatibility with Office would be Open Office (or maybe they point to Star Office).
You are correct in stating that a JVM will not crash the entire system, I have never seem a pattern like: Do 'y' thing with java program 'x' and the system crashes. I have, however, seen the JVM crash, but that is usually a problem with a poorly written application (usually some C++ hack trying to get in on the latest thing:) ).
As far as Java Applets go. Screw them, I don't use them, I don't like them, they don't work well, are often too big, and security zelots block them at some firewalls. As far as I am concerned, "Real" Java development doesn't even include the word "Applet".
Older "Swing" applications generally had problems, but most of that has improved, over the last year or so (with the release/ maturity of version 1.4). I think that it is safe to assume that most of the Java in "Java Desktop" will be Swing appications running in each of their own JVMs.
What system were you running? what JVM? I have never seen this happen. I am a Java Developer who has sent a lot of time working on
Windows systems (got my start as an MCSE). My last position, in the same company I still work for, had me supporting Java developers with desktop development issues (and deployment to the Sun application server, Netscape admin, etc.) There must be something else seriously wrong with the system. At least tell us how you "know" it was Java that crashed your system?
"I personally keep Java off my computer because it crashes the system," he said. "If Sun had the interests of the customer in mind, then the Sun desktop would be written in C and donated to Linux. Sun is no better than Microsoft."
This is a quote from "An IT manager, who asked not to be named". I am a Java Developer who has never had any problems with Java on my desktop or servers (Windows or Sun). Clearly, the guy is confusing the so called "Java desktop" with Java JVM. Also it should be noted that the "Java Desktop" is a Linux distribution (As if most readers didn't know that already) with Open Office (I'm sorry Star Office) and a JVM installed by default. The author never even mentions any of this, because I believe he wrote the entire thing out of the press release, and a quote from a "friend", but we have never seen this before have we!
I agree that there is a serious problem with the lack of overhead argument, but lack of cost for CPU horsepower is not it. I have heard estimates that 50% of all email traffic is spam. To counter this flood of spam, most companies are starting to use spam filtering. CPU hosepower might be cheaper than before, but "everything counts in large amounts" and spam is getting larger and larger. Is it cheaper to check every message against an ever increasing set of rules, including checks for patterns, or to just check the message header for a key and to process that key. Once that key is processed all messages from that server could be (more) trusted, at least for that session.
I guess you didn't hear about the guy who uses Jello to fool biometric sensors.
You mean the he used jello to create a fake retna
If you read through another thread off of this comment, I made the statement (as a bullet) that most system have "average" security, which is sometimes a little ahead and sometimes a little behind. It should be pointed out that the "security researcher" whos finding you have indicated (but not linked), was part of the process of security analysis. These holes will always be developed and found, it is up to the manufacturer and the software maker to plug them before they become a wide spread issue. Also, it should be noted that the article you indicated was published on May 16, 2002. Which is a year and a half ago. If that "crack" is still open then the problem is not "all types of biometric security" but the incomptence of the biometric manufacturer. I doubt is that hole still exists, because that article even lists the "patches" which are need for the system:
Yet Digital Persona's Bjorn stressed that while the study was interesting, several factors limit its importance. The technique can only be used to steal a single person's fingerprint and does not allow broad access, as do some security flaws. Also, most fingerprint sensor hardware allows several other parameters, such as body heat, to be measured, which adds up to higher security.
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These ATM scams work so well because they are able to use legit ATMs to collect the money. You could crack into a live ATM in order to upload your fake data, but while you got it open why not just grab the cash directly. There is the posibility of using some kind of device which interfaces with the machine on a directly physical level. Something that could send a fake stream to the scanner itself, but I haven't seen anything like that yet. However once you start to see boimetric scanners, I'll bet that you'll start seeing upload devices.
Great security is keeping 2 steps ahead of the crooks
Good security is keeping 1 step ahead, and
Average security sometimes a little ahead and sometimes a little behind.
Most systems only have the budget for average security.
They would have an harder time accessing "real" ATMs. Some people can (and will) insist that they can fake a biometric scan, but it certainly has to be much harder to fake than using your index finger to push buttons on a keypad.
Stupid yes and no, This is one method that I am sure that they have seen. Most crooks (but not all crooks) would have a hard time cracking an ATM to do what it was never designed to, but getting one to keep a card, must not be hard to figure out. Overall this is the weakest scam that I have heard of however. One would presume that the victum's next call would be to the bank, to replace the now missing card.
I live in a state (a U.S. state that is) where all smoking in public buildings is prohibited, so your example is lost on me. Also, you say "mostly" and I do agree it will happen and mostly in expected places, but "pranksters" and other malcontents will give your (dare I say) beloved device a bad name, right from the start.
I have said it many times now, but I'll say it again... Radio Jammers are illegal (in the U.S. at least) and for good reason. If you want peace and quiet put on a pair of head phones or go places where there are no people. In these "magical quiet zones" would you eliminate all talking, crying kids, and even the drone of typing? Heck, (also said before, differently), in areas where people are allowed to talk (just about everywhere but movie theaters) the most annoying thing about cell phone usage is not being able to hear both sides of the conversation. Otherwise people would always be complaining about how "that table next to me was talking and I don't like it, it offends me that they are able to vocalize with my earshot, make them stop, now!".
Looks like a delorian with a plank across the top and an airplane fin on the back. I clicked on the "more information" button and got a page with a "nice" flash animation. The caption says, "click on a name above to see and hear what the experts say.",
I did, Dr Douglas Ikeler (the only expert) makes a couple of glowing statements,
Of course he is the founder, so that is completely unexpected. The first line in the FAQ was "Is Aerospectives planning to become a publicly traded enterprise?" which tells you where their heart is.
Really how is this more efficient than leaving you car at the airport and renting one at the other end?
For 400,000 dollars you get the worst of both worlds.
Since you didn't have anything nice to say about cell phones or their users, I thought that I could safely say the you "hate them so much".
You (and anyone else with $50 and an axe to grind) would determine the timing of this "network glitch". Trust me, when the jammers get out of hand there will be massive problems. It wouldn't take more than 1% penatration of the total population for "stealth jammers" to seriously cripple communctions. I believe it will happen, there are enough people who have problems with cell phones and enough people who just like to be annoying. I honestly believe that to counter those jammers retail jammer locators (which are legal) will be the next consumer gadget. They will be sold under the guise of "reception tester" and will eventually be added to phones themselves.
*idea* A java package which will convert the phone into a jammer sniffer- a good plan for my first Million [thanks for helping push my thoughts to it] - anyone know a good patent lawyer, I wouldn't even have to develop it.
Maybe I am the expeption, but I have never been bothered at a movie by someone having a conversation. In a resturant I expect to have others carry on conversations, I doesn't make me mad that I can't hear both parts of the story because I don't pay attention to it. As far as the inattentive driver on a cell phone, most of those people wouldn't pay attention to the road anyways. Cellular communication has exploped in the last couple of years, it will take some time before most people are really aware of how to use them responsably and some people never will. Unfortunately the car thing is the worst, esp thrown in the the big SUV, but that's another rant.
If the cops find you in someone's yard with "burgular's tools" they can charge you with just that. For the most part, wire cutter serve a useful and legal purpose, I doubt if you can say the same for radio jammers, which are illegal by current definition.
How do you know my reality, I didn't say all of my conversations are important (but for some it might be most), please don't take my comments out of context, just to FLAME ME. My cellphone is the life line to my son,
who has had several serious medical problems, I wouldn't feel confortable leaving him with, even his grandparents, but for that damn cellphone you hate so much. Granted, I haven't gotten that call I fear so much, but...
Sure, some cellphone users are inconsiderate, but you don't blame every driver on the road, just the ones who drive recklessly. Also, I find it interesting that you talk about revenge, isn't dropping people conversations a form of revenge for their offending you with their conversations? When you get your jammer, I doubt if you'll politely ask anyone "Do you mind me making the service you pay for and posibly need unavailable", or will you just decide for them.
Just because you were wondering about my reality, my bill tells me that I use about 150/minutes a month, I'd say 20% are work related, and 60% my wife, and the other 20% my family. I am not a "heavy cellphone user", but I need to be sure that the phone is on. When my phone vibrates (I always keep it on vibrate and in my pocket), and I am in a public place, I answer it with a short low "hello", then either "I'm sorry I can't talk right now" or "hold on", but then again I am generally very civil. Maybe that is how you act, but I seem to think of you as less civil.
A definition of self-rightous is someone who would do an illegal act just because they think they are right. Not paying attention to the road (cellphone, radio, sex) is often called reckless driving, and as others have pointed out jamming transmitions of radio is also illegal. Both of those are wrong.
No my responsabilties do how ever include being able to carry on a normal conversation about the welfare of my son (and family), my job, and to contact emergency help for myself and others.
It does look like those systems will find a place in the hands of many self-rightous people such as yourself, not to mention outright criminals. Trust me, when one of you jokers decide that there are too many people using their cellphones (or just for a good "laugh") in a public place and activate your "personal jammer", people will go on a witch hunt and shut you down. Hopefully by just destroying your illegal property.
A real question for those that might know better is, being illegal (in the U.S.) can I legally destroy someone's jammer, as long as I didn't cause any other damage?
If I had a portable jammer I could bring it to a bank and prevent everyone from calling 911 as I robbed it.
Very good point, also many auto-theft devices depend on cellular service, so if you are a professional car thief this would be as needed as a slim jim. Also many homes use cellular service for a back-up (maybe even primary) alarm notification. Rapists could find it useful in isolating thier prey, one of the reasons that the guy in North Dakota was picked up was because he was seen in the same area, and about the same time as that woman was on her cell phone.
so you can leave it out on a restaurant table and no one will know you're the source of the blissful silence in the room
Great so now not only will I need to be sure that I only go to (or even pass through) places which don't jam, but I have to worry about random people as well. I suspect next they'll sell, jammer tracking locators, so that I can find out which jerk thought blocking me from my responsabilities was within their rights. I can only imagine what that type of fight will be called... maybe Jamming Rage?
That's the first thing that came to my mind too. I think that the 6th day (like Minority Report) did a lot of "fishing" (if you will) for technologies which we might see in our lifetimes, cars that drive themselves, holographic girlfriends, that airplane, in addition to the story driven tech (cloning).
This technology has the potential to beat the pants off of the previous VTOL aircraft. I don't believe that it would replace the large fix-winged planes, due to the higher fuel consumption of vertical fight, but helicopters may become a thing of the past. It's good to see Boeing doing the hard research to get it going.
Deliberately misquoting the constitution should result in a charge of Treason for McBride, but it would be hard to prove. Of course, it takes (I think) three witnesses to the Treason, and you can't make a person's lawyer testify against him. So that eliminates, what, 95% of the people around him.
My feeling is that there are other countries where, "ethnicity is not tightly coupled with nationality" not that it isn't so in this country (America). America might be the best example or the first, but even that statement is so debatable I wouldn't even defend it.
I think that Slashdot should have a +1 Politics, and a -1 Flame-politics moderation choices. That way those that are truely interested in political discussions of every technological idea can moderate them as such, and those that don't can set their preferences accordingly. It might be interesting to see really where the "group think" really is, at least for those interested in politics. As far as just keeping politics off of Slashdot, you whould have an easier time getting rid of the Trolls.
It was a decent article, but if it was included in discussion from yesterday I wouldn't mod it past a +4 Insightful (but someone would), it kinda feels like a long somewhat rambling slashdot post.
His conclusion (almost out of the middle of nowhere) was that we need to "improve" education in this country, but no details on what needs to be done.
Thrown in is this comment (which would surely get a reply on SlashPolitics):
"America is, after all, the only society that does not define its citizens substantially in ethnic terms.". Yea, I wave my flag around a little too much for some, but even I know that is certainly not true, and maybe even a little bit of flame bait (kinda like this comment).
The Russians are experts at getting and staying in Low Earth Attitude. I might be wrong, but I don't believe that they ever even tested a large booter like the Saturn 5. but...
A Saturn 5 is a huge vehicle containing an small command module and a tiny lander. Because of this, the Apollo missions couldn't take that much equipment with them, or stay all that long. Which cut out most of the science. In order to get anything "real" done, a better way must be used than the "old" method. Otherwise it will just be (mostly) another publicity stunt. but...
As far a "the old Saturn 5 team being disbanded", NASA keeps everything and I am sure that the few remaining staff would jump at the chance to get the program running again.
So what's the answer, I don't know lets hash it out here, save NASA some trouble.
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If you have ever had an advanced accounting class, which I doubt, you will know that there are many ways to look a particular set of numbers, to "spin" them to be appropiate for your point (if you will). That is why I perfer to call it SCO (Subjective Cost of Ownership), but since SCO is already a well known curse (at least in the Slashdot world), lets just call it really is "FUD".
One of the nice things about open source is that if the project forks, you can "fork" it right back, you are not at the mercy of your software suppliers. If you need it enough you can pay for it's development. This is also true if the project is otherwise abandoned, with paid-for software you would need to be the highest bidder at the auction (or at the mercy of some gready and broke VC).
So your problem was a Java Applet running in (maybe an early) version of Mozilla. Unfortunately, the Applet continues to be the first experience most people have with Java, becuase of it's implementation in web browsers, it's stability is a direct function of how well the browser works with it. I would never consider using applets (unless the Business decides that is what they want) for a good number of reasons, including the tendancy to "blame Java" when the browser chokes, load times and inconsistant versions of java on a particular target system.
Just in case you were wondering the compatibility with Office would be Open Office (or maybe they point to Star Office).
As far as Java Applets go. Screw them, I don't use them, I don't like them, they don't work well, are often too big, and security zelots block them at some firewalls. As far as I am concerned, "Real" Java development doesn't even include the word "Applet".
Older "Swing" applications generally had problems, but most of that has improved, over the last year or so (with the release/ maturity of version 1.4). I think that it is safe to assume that most of the Java in "Java Desktop" will be Swing appications running in each of their own JVMs.
What system were you running? what JVM? I have never seen this happen. I am a Java Developer who has sent a lot of time working on Windows systems (got my start as an MCSE). My last position, in the same company I still work for, had me supporting Java developers with desktop development issues (and deployment to the Sun application server, Netscape admin, etc.) There must be something else seriously wrong with the system. At least tell us how you "know" it was Java that crashed your system?
I agree that there is a serious problem with the lack of overhead argument, but lack of cost for CPU horsepower is not it. I have heard estimates that 50% of all email traffic is spam. To counter this flood of spam, most companies are starting to use spam filtering. CPU hosepower might be cheaper than before, but "everything counts in large amounts" and spam is getting larger and larger. Is it cheaper to check every message against an ever increasing set of rules, including checks for patterns, or to just check the message header for a key and to process that key. Once that key is processed all messages from that server could be (more) trusted, at least for that session.
- Great security is keeping 2 steps ahead of the crooks
- Good security is keeping 1 step ahead, and
- Average security sometimes a little ahead and sometimes a little behind.
Most systems only have the budget for average security.They would have an harder time accessing "real" ATMs. Some people can (and will) insist that they can fake a biometric scan, but it certainly has to be much harder to fake than using your index finger to push buttons on a keypad.
Stupid yes and no, This is one method that I am sure that they have seen. Most crooks (but not all crooks) would have a hard time cracking an ATM to do what it was never designed to, but getting one to keep a card, must not be hard to figure out. Overall this is the weakest scam that I have heard of however. One would presume that the victum's next call would be to the bank, to replace the now missing card.
I have said it many times now, but I'll say it again... Radio Jammers are illegal (in the U.S. at least) and for good reason. If you want peace and quiet put on a pair of head phones or go places where there are no people. In these "magical quiet zones" would you eliminate all talking, crying kids, and even the drone of typing? Heck, (also said before, differently), in areas where people are allowed to talk (just about everywhere but movie theaters) the most annoying thing about cell phone usage is not being able to hear both sides of the conversation. Otherwise people would always be complaining about how "that table next to me was talking and I don't like it, it offends me that they are able to vocalize with my earshot, make them stop, now!".
" Hell is other people "
Really how is this more efficient than leaving you car at the airport and renting one at the other end? For 400,000 dollars you get the worst of both worlds.
You (and anyone else with $50 and an axe to grind) would determine the timing of this "network glitch". Trust me, when the jammers get out of hand there will be massive problems. It wouldn't take more than 1% penatration of the total population for "stealth jammers" to seriously cripple communctions. I believe it will happen, there are enough people who have problems with cell phones and enough people who just like to be annoying. I honestly believe that to counter those jammers retail jammer locators (which are legal) will be the next consumer gadget. They will be sold under the guise of "reception tester" and will eventually be added to phones themselves.
*idea* A java package which will convert the phone into a jammer sniffer- a good plan for my first Million [thanks for helping push my thoughts to it] - anyone know a good patent lawyer, I wouldn't even have to develop it.
Maybe I am the expeption, but I have never been bothered at a movie by someone having a conversation. In a resturant I expect to have others carry on conversations, I doesn't make me mad that I can't hear both parts of the story because I don't pay attention to it. As far as the inattentive driver on a cell phone, most of those people wouldn't pay attention to the road anyways. Cellular communication has exploped in the last couple of years, it will take some time before most people are really aware of how to use them responsably and some people never will. Unfortunately the car thing is the worst, esp thrown in the the big SUV, but that's another rant.
If the cops find you in someone's yard with "burgular's tools" they can charge you with just that. For the most part, wire cutter serve a useful and legal purpose, I doubt if you can say the same for radio jammers, which are illegal by current definition.
Sure, some cellphone users are inconsiderate, but you don't blame every driver on the road, just the ones who drive recklessly. Also, I find it interesting that you talk about revenge, isn't dropping people conversations a form of revenge for their offending you with their conversations? When you get your jammer, I doubt if you'll politely ask anyone "Do you mind me making the service you pay for and posibly need unavailable", or will you just decide for them.
Just because you were wondering about my reality, my bill tells me that I use about 150/minutes a month, I'd say 20% are work related, and 60% my wife, and the other 20% my family. I am not a "heavy cellphone user", but I need to be sure that the phone is on. When my phone vibrates (I always keep it on vibrate and in my pocket), and I am in a public place, I answer it with a short low "hello", then either "I'm sorry I can't talk right now" or "hold on", but then again I am generally very civil. Maybe that is how you act, but I seem to think of you as less civil.
A definition of self-rightous is someone who would do an illegal act just because they think they are right. Not paying attention to the road (cellphone, radio, sex) is often called reckless driving, and as others have pointed out jamming transmitions of radio is also illegal. Both of those are wrong.
It does look like those systems will find a place in the hands of many self-rightous people such as yourself, not to mention outright criminals. Trust me, when one of you jokers decide that there are too many people using their cellphones (or just for a good "laugh") in a public place and activate your "personal jammer", people will go on a witch hunt and shut you down. Hopefully by just destroying your illegal property.
A real question for those that might know better is, being illegal (in the U.S.) can I legally destroy someone's jammer, as long as I didn't cause any other damage?
This technology has the potential to beat the pants off of the previous VTOL aircraft. I don't believe that it would replace the large fix-winged planes, due to the higher fuel consumption of vertical fight, but helicopters may become a thing of the past. It's good to see Boeing doing the hard research to get it going.
Deliberately misquoting the constitution should result in a charge of Treason for McBride, but it would be hard to prove. Of course, it takes (I think) three witnesses to the Treason, and you can't make a person's lawyer testify against him. So that eliminates, what, 95% of the people around him.
I think that Slashdot should have a +1 Politics, and a -1 Flame-politics moderation choices. That way those that are truely interested in political discussions of every technological idea can moderate them as such, and those that don't can set their preferences accordingly. It might be interesting to see really where the "group think" really is, at least for those interested in politics. As far as just keeping politics off of Slashdot, you whould have an easier time getting rid of the Trolls.
It was a decent article, but if it was included in discussion from yesterday I wouldn't mod it past a +4 Insightful (but someone would), it kinda feels like a long somewhat rambling slashdot post. His conclusion (almost out of the middle of nowhere) was that we need to "improve" education in this country, but no details on what needs to be done. Thrown in is this comment (which would surely get a reply on SlashPolitics): "America is, after all, the only society that does not define its citizens substantially in ethnic terms.". Yea, I wave my flag around a little too much for some, but even I know that is certainly not true, and maybe even a little bit of flame bait (kinda like this comment).
A Saturn 5 is a huge vehicle containing an small command module and a tiny lander. Because of this, the Apollo missions couldn't take that much equipment with them, or stay all that long. Which cut out most of the science. In order to get anything "real" done, a better way must be used than the "old" method. Otherwise it will just be (mostly) another publicity stunt. but...
As far a "the old Saturn 5 team being disbanded", NASA keeps everything and I am sure that the few remaining staff would jump at the chance to get the program running again.
So what's the answer, I don't know lets hash it out here, save NASA some trouble.