"Yet, even with the shitty movies, people feel the urge to download it for free and watch it anyway. If it really was shit, people wouldn't watch it. "
This is nonsense. People can't know its shit before having see it.
"If you know such and such movie is shit,"
I can't know.
" then don't download it and just don't watch it. Don't try to justify your piracy by the quality of what you pirate."
Stop saying that *I* download anything. You may only be able to see things from what you do, that doesn't mean the rest of us are that way. I don't download movies, exactly because I expect them to be crap (but of course I can't know, since I haven't seen them)
Far worse is the amoral Online activation and "copy protection" - THAT is why I stopped buying it - I expect to be able to install a program as many times is I want not at some greedy assholes whim.
"Your continued use of the Facebook Service after any such changes constitutes your acceptance of the new Terms."
People have NOT accepted any new terms, since they don't know there are new terms -so if their tos is factually incorrect - surely it can't hold up in court?
"If Copyright were only 1 year, do you really think that people wouldn't still be pirating films by aXXo the day of DVD release?"
Do you really think it would matter? I know people who were really looking forward to a pirate copy of Harry potter, then they were looking forward to seeing it in the Cinema, then they were looking forward to be able to buy the dvd.
If you make quality people will buy it, if you make shit they won't. The length of time is a question of morality, even 1 year is too much. But 95 years is sick.
"The Pirate Bay is about theft, plain and simple."
False. You can't steal a non physical object. No stealing is going on there. But a lot of copyright violations are.
"People pirate movies because they want to watch movies without paying for them"
Or because they want to watch something now, not a long time from now. However the amoral copyright system screws you, you can't get your money back if you didn't like the movie. Another reason why this is not real property.
"But you are not the majority. The majority are thieves."
None of them are thieves, but a lot of them probably found that the industry had, yet again, tried to trick them into paying for something which had no value.
"I don't know where the author got his information from,"
He pays attention to modern media.
"but equating Darwin directly with evolution and setting him up as the absolute authority on evolution and natural select is exactly the straw man argument used by the ID/creation morons."
And billions of people who don't know any different. Therefore what he says is good.
"Repeat after me: If you use a free service, you are entitled to exactly what you paid for."
Sorry, I don't feel like lying on your command.
"It's not like either of these things is news, and if it really is a freebie blogging service that Google provides where this is allegedly happening, then of course Google are perfectly within their rights to do anything up to and including shutting down the whole service without notice if they want to."
And we have the right to think they are amoral creeps if we wanted to.
"Every week now it seems there is a new target of our collective paranoia. "
Except its not paranoia when there are witnesses, who say they were hurt.
"Whether Google is censoring or not is irrelevant. "
No you are with an attitude like that. There are people who say they have been the victim of Google, and Google are just ignoring them. That's a problem. And if Google has become #evilgoogle then everybody should know this so they can avoid them. It is very relevant because they are so big as they are.
"And how does any of that make it so that you get to tell them what to do? If you don't like what they're doing, don't interact with them - in other words, don't use their products. " But you get to tell me what to do? Hypocrite.
"That's really the only part of the deal you get to control. ''I don't like what you're doing, so I get to tell you what to do," just isn't the way it works.''"
Of course it does, its called fredom of speech.
"Hate to break it to you, but you're not boss of the world. "
Either you are an idiot, a troll, a teenager or all 3 - and I'm going to ignore you now.
"If you build a house, can I force you to let me live in it on any terms I set? No, I can't. Do I get to take your car out for a spin whenever I want? No. You own those things, so you get to set the conditions under which other people take possession of them or use them. "
False comparative.
If I drive a cab, do I get to tell you were we go?
"So what makes you think you get to set the terms under which Google gives away the software they've made? They don't have to let other people use it at all if they don't want to. "
Bla bla. They are doing this for money, not to waste time. And users are money, if I (or someone) can organize enough people to protest they will have to change.
"Google isn't trying to "beat" Microsoft for warm fuzzy feelings."
Exactly, they are doing it for money, and pissing on people doesn't generated that.
"I'm also pretty sure they're not competing to be your personal software slave. "
Slashdot Mirror
Its slow and bulky - use a freeware alternative.
"But better to shoot thy neighbor, eh?"
Its not flamebait, but true - its quite alright with all kinds of violence on tv, but just a tiny bit of nudity and all the 'moral' groups freak out.
Indeed they are, but not as afraid as they are of free speech - as slashdot is a good proof of.
By definition a pirate is something bad - you should rather have chosen a more political astute name, like "Party for Ethical Copyright"
''"enough to prove that those guys treat the law as a joke they can ignore''
Did you not understand that this trial is a Swedish trial? American law actually is a joke until it's applicable in Sweden."
Which is not relevant to what he said.
But better to shoot thy neighbor, eh?
It would be interesting to know if the idea started in the US or somewhere else, and what the EU bases its idea on.
"Yet, even with the shitty movies, people feel the urge to download it for free and watch it anyway. If it really was shit, people wouldn't watch it. "
This is nonsense. People can't know its shit before having see it.
"If you know such and such movie is shit,"
I can't know.
" then don't download it and just don't watch it. Don't try to justify your piracy by the quality of what you pirate."
Stop saying that *I* download anything. You may only be able to see things from what you do, that doesn't mean the rest of us are that way. I don't download movies, exactly because I expect them to be crap (but of course I can't know, since I haven't seen them)
Far worse is the amoral Online activation and "copy protection" - THAT is why I stopped buying it - I expect to be able to install a program as many times is I want not at some greedy assholes whim.
Do you have a link to what was the original intent of copyright?
It had a definition of 'wittertainment' for a while as well before the wikipedia censors removed it - this is sure to get removed as well.
"Your continued use of the Facebook Service after any such changes constitutes your acceptance of the new Terms."
People have NOT accepted any new terms, since they don't know there are new terms -so if their tos is factually incorrect - surely it can't hold up in court?
"If Copyright were only 1 year, do you really think that people wouldn't still be pirating films by aXXo the day of DVD release?"
Do you really think it would matter? I know people who were really looking forward to a pirate copy of Harry potter, then they were looking forward to seeing it in the Cinema, then they were looking forward to be able to buy the dvd.
If you make quality people will buy it, if you make shit they won't. The length of time is a question of morality, even 1 year is too much. But 95 years is sick.
"The Pirate Bay is about theft, plain and simple."
False. You can't steal a non physical object. No stealing is going on there. But a lot of copyright violations are.
"People pirate movies because they want to watch movies without paying for them"
Or because they want to watch something now, not a long time from now. However the amoral copyright system screws you, you can't get your money back if you didn't like the movie. Another reason why this is not real property.
"But you are not the majority. The majority are thieves."
None of them are thieves, but a lot of them probably found that the industry had, yet again, tried to trick them into paying for something which had no value.
had his portable in court and twittered http://twitter.com/Falkvinge
Gottfrid Svartholm is now on twitter:
http://twitter.com/anakata
Since I'm on one of those ISP who are blocking access to the piratebay I can't see the site TFA is linking to, anybody got an IP?
"I don't know where the author got his information from,"
He pays attention to modern media.
"but equating Darwin directly with evolution and setting him up as the absolute authority on evolution and natural select is exactly the straw man argument used by the ID/creation morons."
And billions of people who don't know any different. Therefore what he says is good.
Makes a perfect case for why Darwin should be forgotten if we are to make inroads in the fight against religion.
"Repeat after me: If you use a free service, you are entitled to exactly what you paid for."
Sorry, I don't feel like lying on your command.
"It's not like either of these things is news, and if it really is a freebie blogging service that Google provides where this is allegedly happening, then of course Google are perfectly within their rights to do anything up to and including shutting down the whole service without notice if they want to."
And we have the right to think they are amoral creeps if we wanted to.
"Every week now it seems there is a new target of our collective paranoia. "
Except its not paranoia when there are witnesses, who say they were hurt.
"Whether Google is censoring or not is irrelevant. "
No you are with an attitude like that. There are people who say they have been the victim of Google, and Google are just ignoring them. That's a problem. And if Google has become #evilgoogle then everybody should know this so they can avoid them. It is very relevant because they are so big as they are.
Except there are witnesses who say it happened to them and that they are now forced to move server.
I mean modding the parent post "Informative" ? :)
"And how does any of that make it so that you get to tell them what to do? If you don't like what they're doing, don't interact with them - in other words, don't use their products. "
But you get to tell me what to do? Hypocrite.
"That's really the only part of the deal you get to control. ''I don't like what you're doing, so I get to tell you what to do," just isn't the way it works.''"
Of course it does, its called fredom of speech.
"Hate to break it to you, but you're not boss of the world. "
Either you are an idiot, a troll, a teenager or all 3 - and I'm going to ignore you now.
"If you build a house, can I force you to let me live in it on any terms I set? No, I can't. Do I get to take your car out for a spin whenever I want? No. You own those things, so you get to set the conditions under which other people take possession of them or use them. "
False comparative.
If I drive a cab, do I get to tell you were we go?
"So what makes you think you get to set the terms under which Google gives away the software they've made? They don't have to let other people use it at all if they don't want to. "
Bla bla. They are doing this for money, not to waste time. And users are money, if I (or someone) can organize enough people to protest they will have to change.
"Google isn't trying to "beat" Microsoft for warm fuzzy feelings."
Exactly, they are doing it for money, and pissing on people doesn't generated that.
"I'm also pretty sure they're not competing to be your personal software slave. "
Utter rubbish. Are you 12?
"I'm not desensitized. "
I think you are.